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General Discussion  » No new races is really disappointing

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  Gorakkh

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Joined: 11/21/08
Posts: 700

10/20/09 2:23:00 PM#41

I would like to see Anthropomorphic Lions and Wolves as a playable race. And It would be kind of cool but daring to have a Anthropormophic FF style T-rex or Raptor like race.

Just some suggestions

  ViViMagik

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10/22/09 9:20:23 PM#42

here's my philosophy on judging a game before it is out. I ,( a fellow hardcore FF fan ), have played many mmo's and been on many forums prior to the release of those mmo's. We all though age of conan was going to be the shit based upon youtube videos, forum threads, GM posts, interviews and all that other bullshit. AOC turned out to be a shit-storm if i ever heard one. What are you doing while you are waiting for FF14? Not a thing, why would you base an entire decision off of words and sub-par videos? That's like reading about an ancient temple instead of exploring it.  I would rather go out into the world myself and explore it. If you can't drop 50 bucks and get your free month trial for a legendary game company, then i don't want to party with you. To anyone with this same mind, take yourself to some other shitty MMO.

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  Ozreth

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10/22/09 9:22:59 PM#43

Hate to say it but 3/4 of every major MMO release since everquest has featured humans, orcs, elves,  and dwarves, with the occasional mix ins and few complain.

maybe SE is just trying to create their own standard of races for their MMOs?

Also, little has been released about the game. Lets just wait and see.

  Luneth7

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Joined: 2/09/09
Posts: 51

 
11/05/09 8:03:40 PM#44

If they're going with new names and new and different classes plus familiar ones. Would It really hurt them to make one or two new races?

The work involved for these guys for making a new race isn't crazy or anything, I just don't see why they would refuse to add one or two new races for release. Especially when they're adding and making up new classes.

It kind of gives me the feeling that they don't really care about their fans and they just see each of us as a number who has money and will pay for anything they make.

And this is coming from a guy who has bought almost every single SquareSoft/Enix RPG known to man.

I'm just currently deciding If after all these years this is the thanks we get, well I don't know If I really want to support them with a lot of my time and money.

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  Vysce

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11/07/09 11:47:46 PM#45
Originally posted by Luneth7

Square-Enix is a multi-million dollar company with leading edge creators.

They have some of the most talented and skilled artists and creators for any video game company.

Yet they have to re-use all the same old races for their next game? That is just boring and lazy, whoever made that decision, It was a really poor one.

I could understand If they wanted to re-use some of them for comfort for the players, but to simply re-use all of them as the base races and have 0 new races just disgusts me.

I don't want to say It, but It's almost as if Square-Enix is becoming Japan's SOE :x

They should have let Yoshitaka Amano design some new races

I feel as though Square-Enix and the talented developers for XIV have let me down by recycling all the same old races and using them as a base instead of new races as the base races and the old ones as extras.

 

I don't understand why they don't trow in some of the races from Ivalice and Crystal Chronicles games if they seriously can' think up new races. Final Fantasy IX looked like it had hundreds of races all over the place. A race like Freya's would be cool. I hope there's new races c'mon S E!!!

  Question82

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Posts: 71

11/14/09 8:31:02 PM#46

Agree with you completely Luneth! I mean... they couldn't even (as an example since the design is so similar) used the Bunny race (Fran) from FF12 either? Yeah yea, I know, different games, different worlds... excuses excuses! All I'm saying is, they didn't even bother using another race that was already available that had a similar design, set in a very similar world.

I'm disappointed about that as well. I might give FF14 a go after all, depending on what news I hear, but I honestly wish they would add more races for players to choose.

 

  N1ghtsta1ker

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Joined: 11/13/07
Posts: 113

11/15/09 1:10:03 PM#47

 Laziness?  God forbid they put their time and effort into things that will actually affect the fun factor of the game rather than creating new player skins.  They already have 5 races, which is more than enough considering most of the greatest games of all time only allowed you to play as a human.

Hardcore FFXI players will feel at home again with the familiar faces and players new to the series will get to enjoy races that aren't knockoffs of traditional MMOs (dwarf, goblin, gnome, troll archetypes etc.).  I think peoople just complain for the sake of complaining... If the fun you get from an MMO comes from whether or not your character model has fur or a height deficiency then something's wrong.

  Dameonk

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Posts: 1928

11/16/09 12:21:02 AM#48

I wouldn't care if it was just 1 race as long as the gameplay is as good or better than FFXI.

Adding races takes away development time from things that will actually matter.  No one's going to care if there are 100 races to choose from if there is no content past level 10.

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  Wizardry

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Joined: 8/27/04
Posts: 4141

Remove quests,bosses and trigger them back in is called Dynamic events now?lol..i think not.

11/16/09 4:16:17 AM#49
Originally posted by todayisblue

the fact that they aren't introducing new races doesn't bother me. i actually don't want any new races. sometimes introducing new races IS the lazy option. i mean, it's pretty easy to say, "hey you can be a goblin now! isn't that awesome?!" no. it's not that awesome. it's just a different graphic model with some different numbers attached to it. in fact, i hope SE never feels it has to introduce a new race because i would prefer them focus on other more enjoyable gameplay elements that don't require me to make a new character to enjoy.

part of the beauty of ffxi was that you could experience everything with one character. the developers are shooting for the same thing in ffxiv, so to introduce new races would just be kinda stupid. especially if the current races embody all the archetypes necessary to balance the game for an individual's personal playing style.


Wel lthis is a ridiculous train of thought.Every aspect of game design has it's own division,even the game has it's own division,that staff is entirely devoted to this game.The artists and animators do not focus on the rest of the game,that is for other employeees of skill to do.

So by having the people that concentrate on race design and their animations would not deter from the game what so ever in any form or fashion.The producer, story writers,music composers and level design people still have their job to do in creating the game.

Tanaka himself thought a 2009 launch was very possible,but now that it is not so likely,i would say those animators and artists,will be working on at least 1-2 new races.There is not that many animations to work on really,a death animation,maybe a few weapon swing animations,heck FFXI did not even have a shield block animation,witch was sad really.They should have had the Parry and Guard animations as well,so they really do cut corners in places.

The whole purpose of this game was to achieve a better looking Final Fantasy game  and i beleive they will accomplish it and then some.What i am worried about is the combat and game design,especially  new class structure being able to have any job anytime,it can end up being a complete joke or maybe they have a way to make really exciting,we will find out soon enough.

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  Beanfield

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Joined: 12/20/09
Posts: 52

1/04/10 5:22:06 PM#50

I personally don't mind at all that they're using the races from FFXI, in fact I think it'll be familiar and I like that. What I do have a tiny problem with, very tiny, is why they're obviously the same races, maybe the models are tweaked a little, but they have totally different names. Lalafell? Come on, that's a taru if I ever saw one.

  rozenblade1

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1/04/10 5:40:17 PM#51

It would have been nice to see the races of Ivalice (FFXII, TA, TA2)...shit, it would have been nice if the game was set in Ivalice...there is so much history to it...but...the game is not set there, and I dont really mind...

I'll play no matter what...no use complaining about something that nobody can do anything about...

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  VaultFairy

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Joined: 10/21/09
Posts: 436

1/04/10 6:11:30 PM#52

Would of been nice to get new races but in a way least I know what race i'm going to be. Would love to play as Moogle too KUPO! =3

  Khrymson

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1/04/10 6:17:15 PM#53
Originally posted by VaultFairy

Would of been nice to get new races but in a way least I know what race i'm going to be. Would love to play as Moogle too KUPO! =3

 

Take it you havn't read any of the interviews or much of this thread!  There is the possibility of at least one and possibly two new races yet to be announced.  Whenever asked SE doesn't say no, but rather "we have yet to announce anything further, but stay tuned for more information as its released" plus the Mural clearly shows different races even though SE is denying it for now!

  VaultFairy

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1/04/10 6:28:16 PM#54
Originally posted by Khrymson
Originally posted by VaultFairy

Would of been nice to get new races but in a way least I know what race i'm going to be. Would love to play as Moogle too KUPO! =3

 

Take it you havn't read any of the interviews or much of this thread!  There is the possibility of at least one and possibly two new races yet to be announced.  Whenever asked SE doesn't say no, but rather "we have yet to announce anything further, but stay tuned for more information as its released" plus the Mural clearly shows different races even though SE is denying it for now!

 

No I havn't got to page 3 and auto pager was repeating the same page and so I gave up. Moogle, Viera and Nu Mou!! Hmm... How about those 3?! Or is it too FFTA?!.... Guess we can wait and see, but it's nice to guess though and keep the imagination flowing.

  ZorakGhostal

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Joined: 6/25/09
Posts: 122

1/04/10 6:31:14 PM#55

 What gets me is the new names. I really don't understand this decision at all. Same races, but different names? Whats the point? Are we supposed to be conned into thinking they are new? Why even bother changing the names? I can only think there is going to be some explanation in the lore, but otherwise it seems like a very bizarre choice.... and who came up with lalafell? wtf... 

  Khrymson

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1/04/10 6:38:08 PM#56
Originally posted by ZorakGhostal

 What gets me is the new names. I really don't understand this decision at all. Same races, but different names? 

and who came up with lalafell? wtf... 

 

New world, new game, new adventure, and all the races but Hyur have had major physical changes to them!

 

  • Miqo'te ~ Bushier and multi-colored tails now, and larger eyes...looks very Japanese too me...love it!
  • Roegadyn ~ Taller, and stockier legs and more mountainous humanoid shaped, no tails!
  • Elezen ~ Much better proportioned, shorter arm length, shorter necks!
  • Lalafell ~ Taller, and have appendages with joints!

 

I like all the names a lot....and glad they are different cause not everyone is gonna just drop FFXI, so when you're talking about one or the other and someone says Mithra you'll know they're talking about FFXI and not FFXIV cause they're Miqo'te there!

 

Lalafell is cute, but Miqo'te is my favorite of them all~

  Yaguer

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Joined: 8/09/05
Posts: 4

1/04/10 9:13:40 PM#57

After reading three pages into this thread including the sixth one, I agree with some posters regarding that the races simply were just re-clothed and postage stamped into the new one. I can rationalize and agree with my rationalization that they wanted to have familiarity, which I think is a good thing, but it is disappointing that they decided to just have the same races. Some of y'all bring up  rumorously that there could be "other races", that isn't certain, just speculation. Square Enix is completely certain on not revealing new information unless it's in their intention, so them being sly about their responses shouldn't be taken as signs from God lol. If anything, we should accept the fact that these five are here to stay, besides, I am personally fine with these five that's all the game needs for launch. Though, again I was disappointed in seeing the same races, yet set in a completely new world that reminds me of Final Fantasy twelve.

Someone in this thread mentioned it should be based in Ivalice, I think that would be grand as I loved that world. It's amazing to think FF12 takes place 10,000 years before FFTactics. Makes you think about that airship graveyard yet in FF12 airships were commonplace almost like Star Wars-esque. Pretty sad too. Oh well.

  Jenadara

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1/04/10 10:01:03 PM#58
Originally posted by mrroboto40

TBH, I'd rather they focus on gameplay then add races that just spin-off something from another IP, the graphics in this game are already amazing, they don't need to add any new races.

 

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  ant211

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1/05/10 5:45:39 AM#59

i really liked the races in ffxi, im glad to see them back. i for the most part like the alterations so far, most definately on the elvaan/elezen. not too sure how i feel about the changes on lalafell though, think i prefer taru.

those bunny characters (viera?) from xii look good, stick them in 14!

  skoreanime

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1/05/10 6:09:55 AM#60
Originally posted by Jenadara
Originally posted by mrroboto40

TBH, I'd rather they focus on gameplay then add races that just spin-off something from another IP, the graphics in this game are already amazing, they don't need to add any new races.

 

QFT

 

QFTx2.  Every other fantasy style MMO is elves, some midget race, some humanoid race and just different iterations of it, like a one that's a bit feline and another that's a bit canine...

 

And don't hold your breath for another playable race.  It makes no sense whatever for SE to have announced the playable races, fill out their bio on their websites and then add in another one or two a couple months later?  No.  That's just down right retarded.

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