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1/03/10 7:42:15 AM#21
Originally posted by zchmrkenhoff
Those traits aren't masculine is what I am saying. Oh but they very much are... if I am asked to define masculinity then those are the traits that I'm hands down going to be looking for. If I'm staring int the eyes of a beautiful woman who I would swear on my life is utmost loyal, that's all very nice and all, but does it mean that she has chivalry? Does it mean that she has the physical strength to best a bull? The honor to immediately challenge a disrespectful person to a dual should your name be insulted? No, for she is a woman, and abides by feminine qualities, many of which overlap with masculine qualities, but not all of them. There are certain qualities that are, as I would claim, to be definitively masculine, and those that are shared... I included them both. What you don't seem to understand is that these aren't traits are only present of even more present in males than females. Honor, respect, loyalty aren't traits that are more common in men, so there is no reason to consider it masculinity. |
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zchmrkenhoff
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Joined: 4/19/09
The biggest argument against democracy is a 5 minute discussion with the average voter |
1/03/10 11:23:14 AM#22
Originally posted by Gameloading
Those traits aren't masculine is what I am saying. Oh but they very much are... if I am asked to define masculinity then those are the traits that I'm hands down going to be looking for. If I'm staring int the eyes of a beautiful woman who I would swear on my life is utmost loyal, that's all very nice and all, but does it mean that she has chivalry? Does it mean that she has the physical strength to best a bull? The honor to immediately challenge a disrespectful person to a dual should your name be insulted? No, for she is a woman, and abides by feminine qualities, many of which overlap with masculine qualities, but not all of them. There are certain qualities that are, as I would claim, to be definitively masculine, and those that are shared... I included them both. What you don't seem to understand is that these aren't traits are only present of even more present in males than females. Honor, respect, loyalty aren't traits that are more common in men, so there is no reason to consider it masculinity. Well you're assuming then that all men are masculine by default! It takes work to achieve it and possess those traits. "Listen, you fuckers, you screwheads. Here is a man who would not take it anymore. A man who stood up against the scum, the cunts, the dogs, the filth, the shit. Here is a man who stood up." - Robert DeNiro |
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frodus
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Joined: 9/15/06
Justification is an event. Sanctification is a process. |
1/03/10 12:21:14 PM#23
What my wife says about me when im not around... Trade in material assumptions for spiritual facts and make permanent progress. |
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1/03/10 2:08:37 PM#24
Here's one I think has been missed.
Fatherhood. The ability to produce and provide for children.
Other than that the usual ones. Physical aptitudes. Adherence to gender roles.
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KarlRove
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Joined: 12/14/07
the person who wrote "honesty is the best policy" was a democrat |
1/04/10 2:49:45 AM#25
2 words: Clearing Brush TORT REFORM: I am in favor of "settlement panels". Easy for the judge to look at a "best practice" settlement per offense. Who needs litigation when we can save time and money by cutting out the middle man through "comparative effectiveness"? |
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1/04/10 9:59:50 AM#26
Originally posted by zchmrkenhoff
Confidence, Chivalry, Strength and Decisiveness are traits I would consider "masculine." The others I wouldn't consider masculine or feminine (though tradition may be more feminine since women seem to focus a lot on traditions). "Provider" should be added as masculine, as well as "Steady" (which would fall between emotional and thoughtful/intelligent, which are both more feminine to me) and "Stalwart." I think Stalwart sums up "true" masculinity, as it includes a lot of the traits above. I'm purposefully leaving out the negative ones though heh. Obviously there is no reason that a woman can't have these traits... just because they CAN have them doesn't mean they're not masculine. It just means that she has masculine traits. To be honest, I think it's better than both men and women have a mix, as people who are too masculine or feminine can be quite unstable or lack depth (men need the intel/emotions, women need the confidence). |
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1/04/10 4:05:48 PM#27
Getting a grey hair and shrugging it off as no biggie
Not worrying if your cell phone compliments your outfit
only wearing face paint when you want to kill someone |
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Faxxer
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Joined: 11/19/05
Star Wars Galaxies, R.I.P. NGE was your final death blow. |
1/06/10 2:33:55 AM#28
I once took one of those personality tests at a website that is gone.. they had tests like "how masc/fem are you test" and "what's your power quotient" tests... lots of silly tests that are funny..
Anyway, on that test It concluded I was 40% feminine and 60% masculin. lol... eveyone laughed when i told them I was in touch with my feminine side. I think that the line has been blurred since even the last 2 decades to be honest.... I think it comes down to personal character. and the rest is just plumbing. though I like only a certain kind of plumbing in case those test results left you wondering lol |
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Joined: 4/17/04
"The dreams of youth are the regrets of maturity." -The Lord of Darkness from Legend |
1/06/10 3:05:59 AM#29
Nowadays: Male Genitalia.
This is a sequence of characters intended to produce some profound mental effect, but it has failed. |
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1/06/10 8:46:01 AM#30
Imo masculinity was at it's highest in 1700 century France. A bunch of angry, powder faced, whig wearing warriors all killing each other off for whatever reason men kill eachother. Seriously, think of being murdered slow and coldly by a man in white paint, a big whig and a razor sharp, lasar fast piece of metal.
Poor France... once the fear of the world, unstoppable, uncontainable (well, hard to be at least).... now hundreds of years later the ages of recking havoc has given way to prissy men in make up. Though Napolean did do some to try and turn the stereotype |
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