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News Discussion  » General: A Twilight MMO: Why the Hate?

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  User Deleted
12/29/09 9:13:19 PM#121
Originally posted by Dragim

Why not a Harry Potter MMO while we are at it?

I mean we have Lotro, books were before the movie, but an mmo came out after the movies?

Matrix Online, gone now

What other ones can we come up with?  I am stumped at the moment

 

I actually have to say that a Harry Potter MMO is at least feasible. You could spin it into a multiplayer game. Twilight is completely lacking in anything MMO-able.

  User Deleted
12/29/09 9:29:28 PM#122
Originally posted by Brialyn

That was a completely egotistical view on this idea. I enjoyed the books and I am neither a tween or a soccer mom and I will never understand why people loathe something that they don't understand. It is your prorogative to not enjoy something, I myself don't care for rap or horror movies but I don't go around calling something I myself don't care for stupid! It is just something I don't particularly like.

I don't think that a Twilight MMO would be a good idea for various reasons but for the author of this article to go on a egotistical rant about what he hates about Twilight then do a complete bipolar move and discuss what he thinks Twilight about would make a good mmo is complete bs. It was corporate greed talking and this moron couldn't make a good MMO out of Twilight because he doesn't understand it. That is part of the problem with the current games is that there are too many developers who don't understand a license taking it on to just make money instead of getting a group of people who care about the license to make the game.
 

So Justin Webb you go find a developer that will hire you to make money off the bloated cash cow that is Twilight and I will laugh hysterically as your cash cow goes down in flames because its just a bunch of money grubbing morons who don't know or care about the license to make a game that sucks because they didn't know or care about it!   You won't get a chance to make that really great game because you messed up the one you didn't care about.

/high-5!

My girlfriend adores Twilight, but agrees that it would be a horrid MMO. She also likes your avatar. Huzzah!

 

  rokinT

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12/29/09 9:31:39 PM#123

When my sons were younger I remember telling them - "If you could find me a game where I can point my wand and zap a skeleton, I'll play it". Thus Everquest came into our household and my husband, I and the two youngest sons played it from 1999 to the end of 2004, when we switched over to WoW. The two best reasons for playing WoW, no EXP loss on death and BETTER CUSTOMER SERVICE.

Now I have a 13 year old granddaughter (from an older son) and I would really like for her to be into gaming. The game that would do it for her is Twilight or an equivalent (Kim Harrison writes a great story line of werewolves, coyote & vampire).

Getting women into gaming this day and age is like trying to get girls to take higher level math 40 years ago. It wasn't stressed, we were told 'boys are better at math', etc. So for all those gamers who feel threatened that there might be a chic game for teen girls (this attitude from the same guys who make hot babe toons in W0W, etc) - so what - You don't have to play it.

Oh and btw my main is an 80 Rogue and i have lots of fun with her.

 

 

  Comnitus

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12/29/09 9:37:09 PM#124
Originally posted by rokinT

When my sons were younger I remember telling them - "If you could find me a game where I can point my wand and zap a skeleton, I'll play it". Thus Everquest came into our household and my husband, I and the two youngest sons played it from 1999 to the end of 2004, when we switched over to WoW. The two best reasons for playing WoW, no EXP loss on death and BETTER CUSTOMER SERVICE.

Now I have a 13 year old granddaughter (from an older son) and I would really like for her to be into gaming. The game that would do it for her is Twilight or an equivalent (Kim Harrison writes a great story line of werewolves, coyote & vampire).

Getting women into gaming this day and age is like trying to get girls to take higher level math 40 years ago. It wasn't stressed, we were told 'boys are better at math', etc. So for all those gamers who feel threatened that there might be a chic game for teen girls (this attitude from the same guys who make hot babe toons in W0W, etc) - so what - You don't have to play it.

Oh and btw my main is an 80 Rogue and i have lots of fun with her.

 

 

I'll admit, for the stupidity level of WoW's community, there is one redeeming quality. I've met more girls playing WoW than any other MMO. Part of it is due to the fact that, since it has all those subs, some are bound to be girls. Still, I'd say at least 30% (probably higher) of my Guild is female. Out of those girls, I'd say 80% are older (moms), but I know some high school/college dudes who managed to get their girlfriends to play.

If a company really wants to risk it, I say let 'em go for it. However, I think it wouldn't work for numerous reasons already mentioned in this thread. You bring up a good point, though, in that targeting a popular IP may not be a bad idea. However, if that IP suddenly stops being popular, you're pretty much screwed.

If you really wanted to create an MMO targeted at girls, I would suggest doing more than just slapping Twilight on the box. Girls must like other things, right?

  Ryukan

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12/29/09 9:43:18 PM#125
Originally posted by black777
Originally posted by Ngeldu5t

Why the hate?

Because it's an abomination of what Vampires should be.

 


 

Good point.

 

I agree, the Twilight franchise makes Vampires and Werewolves appear to be more pussy than anything I have ever seen or read. While it might appear that Meyers is attempting to make Vampires and Werewolves seem more humanish, it is a terrible concept and a worse execution. Everything about Twilight just craps all over vampire and werewolf lore and mythology. Anne Rice and Brom Stroker are probly rolling over in their graves right now. Notice how there are no Twilight games so far? That is because ther is not enough serious content (or even decent content) in there make anything more than a half assed game.(Actually there i, or was, a Twilight game in the process of being made by some studio or outfit called Brainjunk Studios, but it may have feel through and I could only imagine how awful it would be, just another shite game adaptation of a shite franchise. Basically, Twilight is to the vampire and werewolf genre what Uwe Bol is to the movie industry.
 

I could handle a Harry Potter MMO, has a lot of potential actually and might not be half bad, but a Twilight MMO?!?!?! FFS the idea itself is an abomination hehe.

  ulthar50

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12/29/09 9:49:51 PM#126

A couple of comments here on girls and gaming. I have two daughters (unfortunately entering their teens ....). Both girls are gamers. They play Left for Dead. One plays WoW. One plays Sims 3. There are plenty of games out there that appeal to girls. My hunch is that gaming will see far more women in the future - girls who have grown up gaming. It won't take a Twilight MMO to do so.

  Emeraq

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12/29/09 9:53:51 PM#127
Originally posted by Johnie-Marz

It's funny that players are tired of the same ole, same ole when it comes to MMORPG's quest's, gameplay, GUI, etc, etc, but don't want change when it comes to classic creatures, IE Vampires...

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I am not really seeing a traditional Vampire MMO's out there. So how would creating a traditional Vampire MMO be considered the Same ole Same ole when it comes to gaming?


 

It wouldn't, except I'm sure it would have everything in it that gamers bitch about now...

 I'm just drawing a parrellel here that's all.

  local93bc

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12/29/09 10:27:18 PM#128

Kids= Cash crop...

 

We are a sick bunch.

 

 

  doragon86

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12/29/09 10:30:11 PM#129

No... while a vampire mmo would be a cool idea, but a twilight one... heeell no.

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And breathed in the face of the foe as he passed:
And the eyes of the sleepers waxed deadly and chill,
And their hearts but once heaved, and for ever grew still!"
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  aesperus

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12/29/09 10:34:27 PM#130

Who cares... they'll probably make some money on it, one way or another. The tween crowd will buy just about anything that no one else wants. It's such a niche market I don't think it'll really effect the genre in one way or another. If it fails, that'll just show people how crappy such an idea is.

  skarwolf

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12/29/09 10:38:08 PM#131

 I read the first book and thought it was probably the worst version of vampires that I've seen.

Now if theres no downside to being a vampire, that is immortality, super strength and individual special abilities why wouldn't everyone be one ?  

  Cirros

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12/29/09 10:42:21 PM#132

  chaoslizard

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12/29/09 10:49:19 PM#133

No need for a Twilight MMO as there is no need for a Titanic MMO- the character would never be Leonardo di Caprio no matter how many pixels you used.

  coolcloud368

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12/29/09 10:51:13 PM#134

 Saw the first two movies just so I can honestly say this might be the most overhyped piece of media in the world(yes including halo).  These are truely terrible movies, ridiculously inconsistent plots(vampires that  shine in the light...wtf???), very stale and unimaginative acting, and the typical love story we've all seen a billion times, which proves to me that teenagers are really as clueless and easy manipulated has people say they(i guess we since im part of that demographic) are.  I applaud the author for realizing she could make a ton of money with a half empty plotline, a pretty boy lead, and a boy who looks like he's right out of a bowflex commercial, however I might lose all faith in my generation to ever amount to anything if a Twilight MMO comes out and is successful, how could you even make a game based on four books which regurgitate the same thing the whole damn time, seriously books 3 and 4 are the biggest emo-i-can't-wait-to-go-home-and-cut-my-wrist fest I ever read, I couldn't even finish half of either of them.  Why I watched and read Twilight?  I wanted to be able to tell my gf I gave a honest effort to like this series and just couldn't find ANY appeal to it(they at least could of got a hot lead girl so the guys that got stuck sitting through that torture had some eye candy...)

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  Realbigdeal

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12/29/09 11:01:38 PM#135

We didnt need twilight as an mmorpg. What we needed:

Was underworld as an mmorpg. It would make a lot more sense. Vempire that would hide from the sun would be much more cool to RP. Playing with a lycan (wearwolf ) would be so awsome. Playing with a human in that story would be cool too. So you have 3 race.

 

Played DF trial for 2 weeks none stop. Check out my pvp video during trial.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJnU_JEqKRM
So you can stop posting that i played DF only for 2 weeks over and over again.

  Houndeye

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12/29/09 11:20:47 PM#136

would like to see a MMO based on the "vampire the masquerade" universe but hell not twighlight.......

  Khalathwyr

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12/29/09 11:32:04 PM#137
Originally posted by Houndeye

would like to see a MMO based on the "vampire the masquerade" universe but hell not twighlight.......

 

"The Masquerade" era is dead according to White Wolf. CCP (makers of EvE who purchased White Wolf a few years ago) is making a "The Requiem" era World of Darkness MMO that supposed to be out this coming year (2010).

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  Nacon4

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12/29/09 11:40:55 PM#138

I don't see what all the hubbub is about.  A Vampire/Werewolf themed MMO would probably be about the same as the old Vampire: The Role Playing Game was.  A triple threat game where you can be Humans fighting or serving the Vampires (all the Werewolves would do to Humans is turn or eat them) or Vampires/Werewolves trying to take over their clans.  Throw in a little magic and viola!  Instant Goth MMO!

 

Just what the world has been waiting for!

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  Funseiki

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12/30/09 12:19:15 AM#139

If they made an MMO based off of everything that happened in the last book it would be sick.

Spoiler Alert for those that care:

1. The "Werewolves" we saw aren't actually werewolves, but actually shapeshifters. There actually exists a war against the true Children of the Moon somewhere in Europe.

2. Factions: Italian vampire family, Cullen/Cullen's friends, Romanian Vampires (Dracula?), and a bunch of lone wolf vampires, not to mention the crazy scientist vampire that rapes South American women that eventually give birth to insane Vampire/human hybrids.

3. Speaking of hybrids: Lore/Sci Fi. Daddy Cullen said that the shapeshifters and Bella's daughter have a similar genetic makeup. That could open up many possibilities in terms of story development, faction development, and hybrid races. MMO anyone?

4. Powers: The last book had an elementalist (who also showed signs of powers pre-vampire like bella), mind readers, future seers, power blockers (Bella), Shapeshifters (Jacob and his crew), Super strength, and that was just some of the good guys.

5. Death: Don't gotta worry bout permadeath debates, cuz they don't die unless the body is entirely engulfed in flames.

6. Guilds/Clans: Cullen family. Wolf packs like Jacob's when he becomes an "Alpha"

7. Races: Humans, Vampires, Vampire-Humans, Shapeshifting Humans, Actual Werewolves <- this one can be explored in a lot of different ways since it isn't really developed much in the books.

8. Moral Issues: human blood vs. animal blood. Can a vampire not be eternally damned?

9. PvP.

Of course, a Facebook MMO could work too, just putting this out there as food for thought. I enjoyed the last book mainly because I pictured how awesome it would be to play a game that had a lot of these elements in it.

Being born into a hawk shapeshifting Native American tribe or being bitten and turned into a werewolf and being introduced to an entirely different world because of it would be intense. Oh and PvP as a war between vampires/werewolves/other vampires. Sick.

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  M1sf1t

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12/30/09 12:36:24 AM#140

Sure go ahead and make a Twilight MMO of course I won't play it just like I won't play Hello Kitty online. To be honest Twilight is horrible effing bastardization of vampire lore in a effort to create a IP designed to sell and appeal to teenage girls.

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