Originally posted by barasawa

Big point here, vampires are supposed to be dark, gritty, horrifying, evil, murderous monsters born of dead people. Not something for you to fantasize about having sex with, as Hollywood (and certain writers) have tried to do. Next thing you know, they'll be doing a werewolf 'dog' show, and sell pink rinestone encrusted leashes for them... Cute werewolf plushies that howl when you turn the lights on or something....

I thought hollywood/media did this with politicians?  Politician = vampire?  hmmm.....

Originally posted by Comnitus
 

High School Musical, not High School Massacre.

Uh, why can't it be both?

MMOs needs a healthy dose of violence.
 

No.. Just no... that's my arguement.

Originally posted by brostyn

Why the hate on Twilight? Are you serious?

 

Some moron comes up with an idea about fairy vampires that glitter in sunlight and make love to tweens, and you ask WHY THE HATE?

 

Vampires are blood sucking killers, that DON'T GLITTER IN THE SUN. They BURN. They don't fall in loves with tweens, they don't take on the vampire nation, and the certainly DO NOT GLITTER IN SUNLIGHT.

 

This book/movie has effectively killed vampire lore that has existed for thousands of years. Vampires will no longer be seen as blood sucking, vicious killers. They will be known as glittery, wonderfu,l majestic creatures that fall in love with tweens.

hmmmm, if that is going to be your criteria as to why there shouldn't be a twilight mmo then I don't think it's enough to hold water.

As vampires aren't real. I know there are some people out there who probably believe all of it is real but I'm not buying into that subscription.

Because they are not real a writer can do anything he/she likes with the subject matter.

One could take your logic and apply it to "vampires were never suave romanian counts who lived in castles but were more like disgusting monsters". But yet we have count dracula.

Or "vampires don't grow old, become powerful enough to withstand the sun and become something like a rock star" yet we have Interview with a vampire.

"Vampires don't have weird things on their heads and live in Sunnydale" but we have Buffy the Vampire slayer.

If someone wants to create their fantasy of vampires being cat people with wings who love tea then that is their prerogative. Whether it is good or not is up to personal taste.

And apparently there are a lot of tween girls and soccer moms who love twilight.

I just can't get the energy to lambaste a demographic for liking something like this because they can just as well point fingers at us for playing video games.

Despite what video game players might want to believe, even with the success of the wii and world of warcraft, a good amount of people still think it's something for kids. At least according to my friends and pretty much the majority of my former coworkers.

In any case,. vampires, werewolves, all of it can be whatever the writer wants it to be. So if they glow in sunlight then in that world they glow in sunlight.

If memory serves me, Dracula does not burn up in sunlight nor do vampires in stories before him, it just makes him weaker. So, if twilight follows a similar mode of thought then it is probably more "correct".

And apparently my second cousin is in the Edward Camp anyways.

edit: now that I think of it, Everquest has frog and rodent people. Can we really say that frog and rodent people have more cultural bang for their buck? I can't. Because they are frogs and rodents.

Originally posted by Loke666

Originally posted by Comnitus
 

High School Musical, not High School Massacre.

Uh, why can't it be both?

MMOs needs a healthy dose of violence.
 

I have to admit that I chuckled a bit, but the ESRB would slap a game with "High School Massacre" as a theme with an AO rating, severely impacting sales in the US. 

Screw this Twilight MMO nonsense, what's next? Alice in MMO land?

I wanna see dwarves being able to turn in Hulks and wreck havoc where ever they go :P

Now that would be a kick ass MMO.

Vampires falling in love?  *yawns*  wtf happened to teenagers? 

We need some MacGyver / A-Team MMO's,now that would rock our world up :P

 Good thing with a MacGyver MMO,no matter what level you are,you can create explosives out of almost nothing

To me, asking why the hate for Twilight is like asking someone why the screaming when a hot poker is jabbed in their eye.

Absurd.

This website should be ashamed to have this on their frontpage.

Absolutely absurd.

New Moon (the second movie in the Twilight series) has grossed to date well over 250 million dollars at the box office....

Man are you behind. It has already grossed over 663.4 million dollars!

Why not a Harry Potter MMO while we are at it?

I mean we have Lotro, books were before the movie, but an mmo came out after the movies?

Matrix Online, gone now

What other ones can we come up with?  I am stumped at the moment

Well, to be honest, the only way I see our of this is to go back in time, kill Stephanie Meyer, come back and... just... enjoy life I guess.

b/c they should be focus on school than playing mmo.

The Twilight books and movies aren't my thing, but there are people whose judgement I respect who really like them.    As popular culture goes, I think it's fine.

I think doing a vampire themed MMO in the twilight world is a fantastic idea, assuming you can pull it off and pull in people who would be interested.  I'm still having trouble understanding the hate.  It is the genre, the demographic of people who like the Twilight books and movies?  Is it that you don't want an MMO to appeal to (mostly) teen girls and adult women -- not all teen girls and adult women, of course, but the ones who like the Twilight genre.  

I play MMOs, rather casually I might add.  I enjoy them,  but I think the current crop is restrictive in what you do.  I happen to like the fantasy genre, but most of the MMORPG fantasy genre tends to be very similar in its "high fantasy" approach.    I'm all for opening up the genre, and I mean really opening it up, to all different sorts of people, different settings, different stories.  I think that's a good thing.

Of course, to do this, you'd have to get someone who appreciated the twilight saga, probably not the author of this article. You make a good product from a genre by respecting a genre.

A facebook thing does seem like a good idea, but I think a standard MMO setting, with better graphics and different sorts of gameplay, that could work too.  Excellent idea.

There are Vampire MMOs out there, but aimed towards guys, not tween girls. (EX. Dark Eden) If these MMOs gave a push towards the tween market I think they could be much more succesful.

Originally posted by mszv

The Twilight books and movies aren't my thing, but there are people whose judgement I respect who really like them.    As popular culture goes, I think it's fine.

I think doing a vampire themed MMO in the twilight world is a fantastic idea, assuming you can pull it off and pull in people who would be interested.  I'm still having trouble understanding the hate.  It is the genre, the demographic of people who like the Twilight books and movies?  Is it that you don't want an MMO to appeal to (mostly) teen girls and adult women -- not all teen girls and adult women, of course, but the ones who like the Twilight genre.  

I play MMOs, rather casually I might add.  I enjoy them,  but I think the current crop is restrictive in what you do.  I happen to like the fantasy genre, but most of the MMORPG fantasy genre tends to be very similar in its "high fantasy" approach.    I'm all for opening up the genre, and I mean really opening it up, to all different sorts of people, different settings, different stories.  I think that's a good thing.

Of course, to do this, you'd have to get someone who appreciated the twilight saga, probably not the author of this article. You make a good product from a genre by respecting a genre.

A facebook thing does seem like a good idea, but I think a standard MMO setting, with better graphics and different sorts of gameplay, that could work too.  Excellent idea.

 

 

The thing with twilight fans is that they are not really fans. They are just girls mooning over shirtless dudes. I never read the books because I sort of anticipated the awfullness, and the movies are well made, considering the material. The characters are just bad, the story is bad and the acting is, for the most part, bad. This is what is wrong with the saga.

Oh and vampires dont sparkle.

Originally posted by Archemorous

Originally posted by mszv

The Twilight books and movies aren't my thing, but there are people whose judgement I respect who really like them.    As popular culture goes, I think it's fine.

I think doing a vampire themed MMO in the twilight world is a fantastic idea, assuming you can pull it off and pull in people who would be interested.  I'm still having trouble understanding the hate.  It is the genre, the demographic of people who like the Twilight books and movies?  Is it that you don't want an MMO to appeal to (mostly) teen girls and adult women -- not all teen girls and adult women, of course, but the ones who like the Twilight genre.  

I play MMOs, rather casually I might add.  I enjoy them,  but I think the current crop is restrictive in what you do.  I happen to like the fantasy genre, but most of the MMORPG fantasy genre tends to be very similar in its "high fantasy" approach.    I'm all for opening up the genre, and I mean really opening it up, to all different sorts of people, different settings, different stories.  I think that's a good thing.

Of course, to do this, you'd have to get someone who appreciated the twilight saga, probably not the author of this article. You make a good product from a genre by respecting a genre.

A facebook thing does seem like a good idea, but I think a standard MMO setting, with better graphics and different sorts of gameplay, that could work too.  Excellent idea.

 

 

The thing with twilight fans is that they are not really fans. They are just girls mooning over shirtless dudes. I never read the books because I sort of anticipated the awfullness, and the movies are well made, considering the material. The characters are just bad, the story is bad and the acting is, for the most part, bad. This is what is wrong with the saga.

Oh and vampires dont sparkle.

Oh, have you seen a vampire before?

Also, it's not just girls who like twilight. I am a straight dude and I enjoy the story. Granted I don't like the movies very much, but the books are great!

Originally posted by majinant

New Moon (the second movie in the Twilight series) has grossed to date well over 250 million dollars at the box office....

Man are you behind. It has already grossed over 663.4 million dollars!

.... scary when you think about it...  and i'd rather not...

Originally posted by Archemorous

Oh and vampires dont sparkle.

But again, they dont' burn in the sun either.

 A Twilight MMO is a terrible terrible idea, if somebody wants to make an MMO like this then go with Legend of the Seeker instead.

Originally posted by majinant

Oh, have you seen a vampire before?

 

Also, it's not just girls who like twilight. I am a straight dude and I enjoy the story. Granted I don't like the movies very much, but the books are great!

1-Nope. But dumping a horn on an elephant and calling it a unicorn isnt right, even if it fits the technical description of what a unicorn is. And unicorns are just as mythical as vampires.

2-And thats fine, I got my opinion, you got yours. nothing wrong with that man. =)