I have been really enjoying these preview articles. Every thing I read just makes me want to play this game even more. After reading Woods articles on STO i just had to go out and preorder the STO Collectors Edition.

Originally posted by comerb

Originally posted by Lektronik

I get to explore new star systems, and using the "genesis creator", I might never run out of areas to explore!

 

 

Prepare to be disappointed.  

I prefer to be neutral on the matter.  I'm sure the genesis hype isn't all I hope it to be, but at least it's a huge step in the right direction. 

That said, why should I "prepare to be disappointed"?  Surely, you don't have any knowledge whatsoever as to why we should be disappointed about the genesis creator.  You're just a puny human subscriber like the rest of us...

Show me some facts to the contrary and then I may consider your words.

Originally posted by comerb

Why, why, why do developers wait until the last month to tweak stuff like this?  I don't pretend to know the ins and out of game design, but it seems like the MMOs coming out in the recent past years always wait until the last darn minute to work on this and other major gameplay factors.  I mean it's been in development for how long, and a month before release they decide "hey, maybe we should look at this experience thing"?  Didn't they learn anything from their Champions Online disaster?

To be honest, because of this an other things that i have read, alarm bells are already ringing in my mind because I see signs of another product released way to friggin early.

 

Because the content isn't in place until the last month to actually test it.

I don't  completely agree with your one sentence answer. Several of the areas of concern that were pointed out not only in the preview, but other article as well are the type of things that have been addressed in other games well more then 1 month in advance of release. In the closed beta of Lord of the Rings Online and WOW, I don't recall not having any idea what the descriptions of skills were when choosing a skill or assigning points. The descriptions had to be tweaked, but not completely missing. Certain things should not be missing/incomplete 1 month in advance of release.

This 2nd part preview really got to the meat and bones. It clarified a lot about bridge officers. Thx, can't wait for the game!! Nice job Cryptic.

I am looking forward to the game, I go in with no expectations what so ever.  Not a huge trekky, enjoyed TNG, some DS9, some Voyager, and actually liked Enterprise.  Liked most of the movies, loved the new movie.  But I cant really tell you much about the lore, and honestly dont care. 

Yet still see so many whiners, funny how the haters sound like fanbois, just change a couple of words, but both sides spew the same crap.

Dana wrote: Should players also be able to group inside a single ship? Some argue vehemently yes, and that's their opinion, but in my personal experience I never missed it.

Yeah, I remember back in 2003 when I never missed having a cell phone either.  Oh, and back in the 1990s, I never missed having a laptop computer. And when I was 5 years old, I never missed having a car.

Point being, how can you even make such a statement? It has no logical basis since you have nothing to compare your experience to.

On top of that, yet again, a MMORPG staff writer resorts to a strawman arguement to dismiss player crews by invoking the "minutia rationale".

I'm finding it very hard to get excited about this game. Because imo Champions was such a huge disapointment,  yes I was cought up in all the hype over how much better then CoX it was going to be.  Then it was released and not nearly even a fraction close to what I thought it was gonna be based on the reviews, previews, and forum chats.  Then I played Beta and total disapointment. Then I waited and played the trial they now offer and nothing has changed, the graphics are still very laggy and look as horrable as when they were still in beta. The whole game is nothing but a bunch of instances. And just like CoX the game world is so small and repetitave that it starts to feel like the cyber version of cabin fever.  Any  way what im trying to say is that I dont have much confidence in Cryptic studios anymore. Dont get me wrong they are not as horrible as the game killers SOE.  I'm just saying that im not going to spend money on STO until  I at least play Beta or a demo. Im not even going to throw down money on ToR till I can play it first.  I even played Aion and want to play more but it's not worth more then $20 to shell out for a boxed copy plus a monthly sub. In fact I havnt played an MMO good enough to spend more the $20 dollars for the game client.

Soooo! The pink skin doesn't like Andorians eh?! 

Outside of  that a good well rounded review.

Thanks Dana for the reviews, both pt 1 and 2 were good read.

One thing I did not see though was crafting, I believe there is none in STO? Can anyone please confirm by pointing to the section of the reviews that I missed, or maybe to some other info?

Even though I love crafting in MMO's, I think I'd be ok with the lack of it in STO, would like to be sure though..

Cheers.

Originally posted by Orcapult

Thanks Dana for the reviews, both pt 1 and 2 were good read.

One thing I did not see though was crafting, I believe there is none in STO? Can anyone please confirm by pointing to the section of the reviews that I missed, or maybe to some other info?

Even though I love crafting in MMO's, I think I'd be ok with the lack of it in STO, would like to be sure though..

Cheers.

There is crafting in the game, though it's not exactly conventional.  There's a pretty informative article at TTH here:

http://www.tentonhammer.com/node/77956

Originally posted by weslubow

Accusing someone or a company of a crime is not an opinion. If you actually believe this is a crime please report them. Keep in mind filling a false report is a crime.

I'm gonna hope you are not an native English speaker, because the phrase "bait and switch" is an expression and not necessarily indicative of criminal activity. 

If you are a native English speaker, ffs, what the hell are you smoking?

As more I read in these articles, yet part2, more interested I´m in playing STO.

Good articles that present an interesting game.  While its a bit diferent in the progression aspect from other games it suits me perfectly as a Star trek ambient. The ideas of rank in place of directly level is a great idea. Really inspirated in my opinion. And the 3 kinds of exp sounds appealing good. Just wanting to be on feb 2 nd.

Quote: The crafting is quite unique, going where no MMOG has gone before.

Hehe we'll see, looks promising even if it seems a bit lightweight.

Thanks for the info Rohn.

Originally posted by laephis

Originally posted by weslubow

Accusing someone or a company of a crime is not an opinion. If you actually believe this is a crime please report them. Keep in mind filling a false report is a crime.

 

I'm gonna hope you are not an native English speaker, because the phrase "bait and switch" is an expression and not necessarily indicative of criminal activity. 

If you are a native English speaker, ffs, what the hell are you smoking?

Google that and then come back.

Just to finnish the discussion. I take no part, but think this is a forum for something else than gramma and lexic lessons. And I´m not a english native speaker.... just forwand to don´t be acussed of anything.

Main Entry: bait and switch
Function: noun
Date: 1967

1 : a sales tactic in which a customer is attracted by the advertisement of a low-priced item but is then encouraged to buy a higher-priced one
2 : the ploy of offering a person something desirable to gain favor (as political support) then thwarting expectations with something less desirable

Not looking forward to this game in general.... but I'll say, I like the concept of what they are doing with advancement and the skill based progression system. I'll give them good marks for that....even if I think some of the other decisions they've made are horrible.

Originally posted by Cerion

Dana wrote: Should players also be able to group inside a single ship? Some argue vehemently yes, and that's their opinion, but in my personal experience I never missed it.

Yeah, I remember back in 2003 when I never missed having a cell phone either.  Oh, and back in the 1990s, I never missed having a laptop computer. And when I was 5 years old, I never missed having a car.

Point being, how can you even make such a statement? It has no logical basis since you have nothing to compare your experience to.

 

On top of that, yet again, a MMORPG staff writer resorts to a strawman arguement to dismiss player crews by invoking the "minutia rationale".

That line is about me never feeling compelled to share my ship with anyone. I didn't think there was so much to do that there would be any added value in it.

Anyway, as hard as this is to believe, some people just don't agree with you. You're entitled to your opinion on player crews, it's a perfectly valid opinion, but not agreeing with you is just as valid of an opinion.

And last time this debate came up, I offered people the chance to write a response article that we'd publish on the website. A fully reasoned editorial on the argument for player crews.

Naturally, no one so much as bothered to email me on the subject. It's one thing to whine on a forum and call us names, but so far I've yet to see one person come up with a well reasoned editorial that explains how this would realistically work and why it would be fun to more than just a few hardcore Trek fans. I even offered to pay for the article. No takers, no surprise.

Originally posted by Dana 

Naturally, no one so much as bothered to email me on the subject. It's one thing to whine on a forum and call us names, but so far I've yet to see one person come up with a well reasoned editorial that explains how this would realistically work and why it would be fun to more than just a few hardcore Trek fans. I even offered to pay for the article. No takers, no surprise.

Unfortunately, real life has intruded to the point where I no longer have the will to devote to such a project.

Sorry folks.

Originally posted by MMO_Doubter

Originally posted by Dana 

Naturally, no one so much as bothered to email me on the subject. It's one thing to whine on a forum and call us names, but so far I've yet to see one person come up with a well reasoned editorial that explains how this would realistically work and why it would be fun to more than just a few hardcore Trek fans. I even offered to pay for the article. No takers, no surprise.

Unfortunately, real life has intruded to the point where I no longer have the will to devote to such a project.

Sorry folks.

Color me shocked.

Originally posted by Rohn

Originally posted by MMO_Doubter

Originally posted by Dana 

Naturally, no one so much as bothered to email me on the subject. It's one thing to whine on a forum and call us names, but so far I've yet to see one person come up with a well reasoned editorial that explains how this would realistically work and why it would be fun to more than just a few hardcore Trek fans. I even offered to pay for the article. No takers, no surprise.

Unfortunately, real life has intruded to the point where I no longer have the will to devote to such a project.

Sorry folks.

 

Color me shocked.

I'd do it but the game's a lost cause and no one would be swayed by the article anyway.  Exercise in futility and all that...