Originally posted by varrius

According to the newsletter, until December 31st, the game price will be reduced for Digital Download and Boxed copies.

 

Also, they are implementing a patch this coming monday December 21st, that will fix a majority of the problems we are experiencing.

 

I ask you now, sandbox lovers, please support Star Vault.   They are going in the right direction.  If everything works out, and the funding is there, we will see a game that will be like-no-other.   So, if you want that game.  If you need that game.  It will not cost you much, please. .   I beg you, give them your money. 

 

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Preorder is getting more and more to some kind of cheap credit. Where is the interest the "investors" will get afterwards? Indie developer or not, this is a very unprofessional way to collect money. I wouldn't give them a dime at the moment, but I hope for those who have alreaday been taken in by SV that their investments will pay out somehow someday.

That is laughable, man...laughable.

I don't buy games as charity, and certainly don't play them that way. If I want to give to charity, I will do so to a legitimate cause. Not some game company afraid of going under.

In theory it seems like a good idea to support a game with great potential if you have some extra cash, but with the game this far from a proper release only real business investments would be sufficient.  In other words, if you do the arithmetic, there is no way that fans pre-buying the game will by itself sustain the development to a retail release. 
 

I've been debating trying out this game. I guess this is as good a time as any.

Originally posted by evilgreen5

 Why would I want to pay for something that will no doubt fail miserably and shut down a year after launch? I'm not trolling, you all know this to be true.

It will fail only if all people think like you. Its very nice that there are enough  (for now) peoples that support that game so SV collected enough funds to delayed release with one month.

For peoples like you: GL with all "Britney Spears" commercial craps on the market.

For peoples like me: Dont doubt, go support the underground \m/

Originally posted by iZakaroN

Originally posted by evilgreen5

 Why would I want to pay for something that will no doubt fail miserably and shut down a year after launch? I'm not trolling, you all know this to be true.

 

It will fail only if all people think like you. Its very nice that there are enough  (for now) peoples that support that game so SV collected enough funds to delayed release with one month.

For peoples like you: GL with all "Britney Spears" commercial craps on the market.

For peoples like me: Dont doubt, go support the underground \m/

No offense, but if they didn't delay the game a month it would be dead far sooner than a year. I think that having an extra month is actually critical to MO's longevity, though given the patchnotes I just saw -- I still think it won't last very long. Time will tell, but if they want to charge a triple A price, I expect a triple A game. You don't charge more money for a car that does less, do you?

Originally posted by iZakaroN

Originally posted by evilgreen5

 Why would I want to pay for something that will no doubt fail miserably and shut down a year after launch? I'm not trolling, you all know this to be true.

 

It will fail only if all people think like you. Its very nice that there are enough  (for now) peoples that support that game so SV collected enough funds to delayed release with one month.

For peoples like you: GL with all "Britney Spears" commercial craps on the market.

For peoples like me: Dont doubt, go support the underground \m/

Its not the players' responsability to ensure a game gets funded, we are consumers, not investors. If I envest money into a game, I'd like to get a cut of the profits when its out. But since thats not happening, why dump money into this? If they are this desperate and this is really the only way they can stay afloat, I agree with evilgreen5, this will tank, sooner or later.

And that would be a shame, because I really want this game to succeed.

Originally posted by Toquio3

Originally posted by iZakaroN

Originally posted by evilgreen5

 Why would I want to pay for something that will no doubt fail miserably and shut down a year after launch? I'm not trolling, you all know this to be true.

 

It will fail only if all people think like you. Its very nice that there are enough  (for now) peoples that support that game so SV collected enough funds to delayed release with one month.

For peoples like you: GL with all "Britney Spears" commercial craps on the market.

For peoples like me: Dont doubt, go support the underground \m/

 

Its not the players' responsability to ensure a game gets funded, we are consumers, not investors. If I envest money into a game, I'd like to get a cut of the profits when its out. But since thats not happening, why dump money into this? If they are this desperate and this is really the only way they can stay afloat, I agree with evilgreen5, this will tank, sooner or later.

And that would be a shame, because I really want this game to succeed.

If people didn't pay gym memberships then they would close.
Cable fees,
Phone bills,
If no one was willing to pay for thier WoW subs, even Blizz would have to shut thier game down.
 

By paying a subscription you're effectively investing in the game, without subscribers subscription based based games wouldn't opperate.  In effect you're an investor when you pay a monthly fee for something.

It's more a matter of whether or not you feel the product is worth your investment by way of paying that monthly fee.

Peronsally,
I think MO is worth it.  It is by far the most original game to come out in a very long time, and one of the only true sandbox games since UO.
If you're a fan of UO, or if you've been looking for a modern game along that line, and enjoy or simply don't mind the FPV and FFA PvP/ full loot then I would highly suggest purchasing this game.

I highly recommend this game.

Originally posted by Fariic

Originally posted by Toquio3

Originally posted by iZakaroN

Originally posted by evilgreen5

 Why would I want to pay for something that will no doubt fail miserably and shut down a year after launch? I'm not trolling, you all know this to be true.

 

It will fail only if all people think like you. Its very nice that there are enough  (for now) peoples that support that game so SV collected enough funds to delayed release with one month.

For peoples like you: GL with all "Britney Spears" commercial craps on the market.

For peoples like me: Dont doubt, go support the underground \m/

 

Its not the players' responsability to ensure a game gets funded, we are consumers, not investors. If I envest money into a game, I'd like to get a cut of the profits when its out. But since thats not happening, why dump money into this? If they are this desperate and this is really the only way they can stay afloat, I agree with evilgreen5, this will tank, sooner or later.

And that would be a shame, because I really want this game to succeed.

If people didn't pay gym memberships then they would close.
Cable fees,
Phone bills,
If no one was willing to pay for thier WoW subs, even Blizz would have to shut thier game down.
 

By paying a subscription you're effectively investing in the game, without subscribers subscription based based games wouldn't opperate.  In effect you're an investor when you pay a monthly fee for something.

It's more a matter of whether or not you feel the product is worth your investment by way of paying that monthly fee.

Peronsally,
I think MO is worth it.  It is by far the most original game to come out in a very long time, and one of the only true sandbox games since UO.
If you're a fan of UO, or if you've been looking for a modern game along that line, and enjoy or simply don't mind the FPV and FFA PvP/ full loot then I would highly suggest purchasing this game.

I highly recommend this game.

When I pay every month to codemasters for lotro, Im not investing into the game, Im paying for a finished product. I agree with your opinion of MO, but even if I had money to throw around (which I dont atm) I still wouldnt pay to beta or whatever  it is they are calling it. When / if the game is ready, I'll buy it, or not, depending on the information at the time.

Originally posted by Toquio3

Its not the players' responsability to ensure a game gets funded, we are consumers, not investors. If I envest money into a game, I'd like to get a cut of the profits when its out. But since thats not happening, why dump money into this? If they are this desperate and this is really the only way they can stay afloat, I agree with evilgreen5, this will tank, sooner or later.

And that would be a shame, because I really want this game to succeed.

I agree with this entire statement. I pay for "finished" products as well. My job didnt pay me to go to school and they certainly wouldn't have hired me before i recieved my degree. I didn't pay my car company to finish building my car to ensure it wouldn't stop working on my way to work.

Gaming companies are taking advantage of their targeted market, gamers, by starting to have them pay for early access. We can only blame ourselves for allowing this to become a trend, and the way it is starting to look, the standard. I want to play the game as well, but i will not pay them to finish their product. The "payoff", for the company, is the subscriptions, after they put out a quality product. Not before.

Imagine if every business company had such practices. Seriously. I wish i could go and half ass something and get paid for it. It's so ridiculous. Who fails to see how ridiculous this is? It makes my head hurt... The only counter argument i can think of would be, "its my money and i'll spend it on whatever i want". Go right ahead.

PLEASE GIVE THEM U MONEY 

Originally posted by blackboxxD

PLEASE GIVE THEM U MONEY 

Sorry but I just dont want to.

Does Mortal Online have no instancing and World PVE/PVP?  It would be something if there was a real MMORPG that came out..

even if the game was discounted to 1 penny, i wouldn't buy it. it's that bad

that's my opinion. and my opinion does not reflect the opinions of anyone else. just saying i really dislike this game. and people thought Aventurine and DF were bad.... if you plan on getting this game, be prepared for an unpleasant surprise.

Originally posted by krowxxvii

even if the game was discounted to 1 penny, i wouldn't buy it. it's that bad

 

that's my opinion. and my opinion does not reflect the opinions of anyone else. just saying i really dislike this game. and people thought Aventurine and DF were bad.... if you plan on getting this game, be prepared for an unpleasant surprise.

The recent patch which was bringing the game close to release ready had some major flaws and the servers are borked until the devs get back from holidays.  However is saying that I disagree, I found MO even with an overall lack of things to do the most engaging MMORPG I have played in years.  

Originally posted by Fariic

Originally posted by Toquio3

Originally posted by iZakaroN

Originally posted by evilgreen5

 Why would I want to pay for something that will no doubt fail miserably and shut down a year after launch? I'm not trolling, you all know this to be true.

 

It will fail only if all people think like you. Its very nice that there are enough  (for now) peoples that support that game so SV collected enough funds to delayed release with one month.

For peoples like you: GL with all "Britney Spears" commercial craps on the market.

For peoples like me: Dont doubt, go support the underground \m/

 

Its not the players' responsability to ensure a game gets funded, we are consumers, not investors. If I envest money into a game, I'd like to get a cut of the profits when its out. But since thats not happening, why dump money into this? If they are this desperate and this is really the only way they can stay afloat, I agree with evilgreen5, this will tank, sooner or later.

And that would be a shame, because I really want this game to succeed.

If people didn't pay gym memberships then they would close.
Cable fees,
Phone bills,
If no one was willing to pay for thier WoW subs, even Blizz would have to shut thier game down.
 

By paying a subscription you're effectively investing in the game, without subscribers subscription based based games wouldn't opperate.  In effect you're an investor when you pay a monthly fee for something.

It's more a matter of whether or not you feel the product is worth your investment by way of paying that monthly fee.

Peronsally,
I think MO is worth it.  It is by far the most original game to come out in a very long time, and one of the only true sandbox games since UO.
If you're a fan of UO, or if you've been looking for a modern game along that line, and enjoy or simply don't mind the FPV and FFA PvP/ full loot then I would highly suggest purchasing this game.

I highly recommend this game.

I'm sorry sir, but your logic is incredibly flawed...

Have you ever heard of SaaS (Software as a Service)? MMORPGs are basically the definition of SaaS.

It is up to the company to fund their own projects and receive support from investors (the investors invest their own money because they plan to receive a portion of the monetary gain, not because they get to use the service for paying the company a monthly fee). The consumer has nothing to do with the company's expenses. Consumers are there to bring in profit. Investors are there to collect on some of that profit.

Originally posted by Bainwalker

Originally posted by krowxxvii

even if the game was discounted to 1 penny, i wouldn't buy it. it's that bad

 

that's my opinion. and my opinion does not reflect the opinions of anyone else. just saying i really dislike this game. and people thought Aventurine and DF were bad.... if you plan on getting this game, be prepared for an unpleasant surprise.

 

The recent patch which was bringing the game close to release ready had some major flaws and the servers are borked until the devs get back from holidays.  However is saying that I disagree, I found MO even with an overall lack of things to do the most engaging MMORPG I have played in years.  

I don't give a damn about their most recent patch. I played MO about a month ago, and it was (by my own opinion) a piece of garbage.

I suggest waiting until SV offers a free trial (or a completely OPEN beta, not this limited alpha) before giving them any of your hard-earned cash.

I'm not trying to prevent anyone from buying a game that they might enjoy playing. I'm just pointing out that this game is not worth the money in its current condition.

Originally posted by varrius

According to the newsletter, until December 31st, the game price will be reduced for Digital Download and Boxed copies.

 

Also, they are implementing a patch this coming monday December 21st, that will fix a majority of the problems we are experiencing.

 

I ask you now, sandbox lovers, please support Star Vault.   They are going in the right direction.  If everything works out, and the funding is there, we will see a game that will be like-no-other.   So, if you want that game.  If you need that game.  It will not cost you much, please. .   I beg you, give them your money. 

 

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Sorry oO I'm not into hentai LOL.

call me stupid but i never buy MMOs before release nor on the release day. I wait a month or 2 till the game is playable and the most rabid fans have left (yepp they the first ones to jump ship)

Originally posted by varrius

According to the newsletter, until December 31st, the game price will be reduced for Digital Download and Boxed copies.

 

Also, they are implementing a patch this coming monday December 21st, that will fix a majority of the problems we are experiencing.

 

I ask you now, sandbox lovers, please support Star Vault.   They are going in the right direction.  If everything works out, and the funding is there, we will see a game that will be like-no-other.   So, if you want that game.  If you need that game.  It will not cost you much, please. .   I beg you, give them your money. 

 

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Oh i just realised OP was trolling us: WELL PLAYED OP