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12/13/09 11:01:10 PM#61
The Mayans predicted that Michael Jackson would rise up from the dead and make EVERYONE into a monster, thus turning the entire world into a live action Thriller video... FOREVER! |
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12/22/09 9:19:15 PM#62
On the note about movies, games, etc. making a "big deal" about the Mayan Calendar and "doomsday": Look back through previous "doomsday" events and the movies, books, etc. that centered on them. It's nothing new and it makes for some interesting stories to be told/surmised/etc. That's the beauty of fiction - particularly science fiction - in that you get to ponder the possibilities. PK Dick (phenomenal Sci-fi author, you should read his work) once said that good sci-fi doesn't have tobe all space, lasers, and high-tech; it merely has to explore the human condition with only slight scientific/fantastical alterations. More to the point of the Mayan calendar and games: again it's nothing new. In 1990 a pen n paper RPG called Shadowrun (not to be juddged by the bastardization that Microsoft released of the same name) hit the shelves. In it is a dystopian, cyberpunk future in 2050...only Magic has returned to the earth, making it a cross between Neuromancer and Tolkein (a weak description, but gets the point across). In Shadowrun, they used the mayan calendar in that the calendar pointed to Dec 2011 the date the the cuirrent world would end and the new world would begin. Their spin was that the odd numbered worlds (we currently live int he 5th) were magic void, and the even number worlds were magic-rich. An interesting idea, i thought. But it's nothing new to use the Mayan calendar for something of that effect. Same thing with Y2K, artificial intelligence, wormhole theory, etc. As for "doomsday" stories, they've been around since the dawn of time. So have the crackpots who claim the end of the world every time a major event happens in history (or the news is having a slow month).
get used to it and for frak's sake, learn to enjoy a little and not take it all so seriously.
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12/22/09 9:22:24 PM#63
Oh yeah, for those of you who remember when Jurassic Park hit the theaters...you'll also remember all the shows and "news" stories that centered around whether it was scientifically possible...or even plausible.
Same thing here. |
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12/22/09 9:30:28 PM#64
Does no one know that the German who initially calculated the date 21/12/2012 was wrong with his calculations? (the particular calender will end some decades later, forgot exact date). Not to mention that the Mayans had other calenders that ended during their reign and after their reign. And that those also predicted huge catastrophes (in their eyes) like a tiger eating the citizens lol. Or a vulcano erupting. But I guess its not as fun as jumping on bandwagons shouting 'the sky is falling!'. This just shows human stupidity. The moment we get past that date, everyone will forget and others will come up with a new date from some ancient, but very wise civilization, that the idiots can believe in. |
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12/24/09 8:50:16 PM#65
"The Mayans predicted end of the world in 2012, this is what I don't get, if they mayan's are so smart how come they see the spaniards coming." -Jay Leno
I think that's what he said. |
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12/24/09 8:55:21 PM#66
Originally posted by saleen
Actually, apparently one of their predictions were the spanish, however they did not survived to see them in RL.
Not that I believe any of this lol, I just think the other scripts were just burned.
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12/24/09 8:58:43 PM#67
Originally posted by Deewe
I'm of the mind that they probably just figured they had mapped the calander out far enough and could quit, personally. But fiction is fiction. If it works for a game or a story, then use it. =) |
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12/24/09 9:07:16 PM#68
if 2012 is real then ill believe in global warming. Ten people who speak make more noise than ten thousand who are silent. |
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12/24/09 9:27:06 PM#69
A lot of people have kinda right info, some are totally off. So here we go:
Mayans, as research shows, didn't just worship stars like some civilizations, they actually studied them. And studied them LOTS. There are different ERAS in the stars. every 2000 or so years, the era changes. This time, it is changing to the era of Pices. The fish. This occurs because the earth kind of swivels, slowly. and the axis points at a different constalation. The Mayans ended their calendar on the day it "ends" and by IT I don't mean the world, and neither did they. So, how does this relate to the Bible and the Christian Myth?
In the Bible. Jesus says "I'll be with you until the end of the world." "world" was wrongly translated, when he said WORLD he really said was "I'll be with you until the end of the ERA." The story of Jesus was told in the stars by hundreds of different people before the story we know. I'll try to keep it good enough for the Christians, seeing as it's Christmas. the story is told with the sun. The story was told before Jesus from the Egyptians, and their god, of the son's son, Horus (Which translates down the road to Jesus.) Horus was born on in spring, when the sun is just now rising on the equinox. He dies in December, when the sun is at it's lowest point. For 3 days he dies. For 3 days the sun is at it's lowest point. After this, he rises into the sky. Sound familiar? Sure, we kinda got the dates backwards, but it's the same story, no? I don't mean to offend anyone who is Christian, or belives strongly in Jesus.
So, because the story of Jesus was told in the stars, and talked of the "era" as the "world", and the Calendar ends on this Era, we have the assumption that the world ends. |
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12/24/09 11:14:16 PM#70
Originally posted by aleos
Unfortunately Global Warming does not require you to believe in it, in order for it to exist. Too bad for us, eh. This is not the first time our planet has gone through this kind of change and it will most likely not be the last. This time around though, humans have foolishly added far too much Cayenne pepper to the soup if you know what I mean. Our planet is warming with or without you. But feel free to keep that head of yours in the sand :) "My fighting style is kneeing people's face" -Wanderlei Silva |
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12/24/09 11:25:44 PM#71
lol!we re killing mother earth faster then she can bring in life !good luck with your wish and thats not even counting all the new disease that will appear from the frozen zone on earth true nobody knows the futur. that being said i m a truck driver and just seeing whats going on in parking area is a very good barometer of everything else. nobody care about mother earth ,nobody care about polution everybody care about only one thing!and that is money.you cant eat money ,you cant grow money .you cant breat money and you sure as hell cant drink money. |
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12/24/09 11:32:35 PM#72
Originally posted by drbaltazar
You are one very wise truck driver. Out of curiosity what did you mean by the "parking area is a barometer"? "My fighting style is kneeing people's face" -Wanderlei Silva |
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karat76
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Joined: 8/22/06
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12/24/09 11:39:08 PM#73
Originally posted by Cecropia
You are one very wise truck driver. Out of curiosity what did you mean by the "parking area is a barometer"? Look at it this way if something really bad happens in 2012 that could just be a chance to take fill a void in the power vacuum that could occur or could just be a good day to stay inside and play mmos while the nut jobs all go out and do moronic stuff. |
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12/24/09 11:42:37 PM#74
i was watchin something on the history channel there like a month back, and all it is they found ONE calendar with the last date on it listed as that date but there are other mayan calendars with dates going past that, one was as high as the year 4000 something. but for what ever reason people latched on to that single calendar with the 2012 date. |
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12/24/09 11:47:12 PM#75
Duke Nukem Forever will be released in 2012 signifying the next era of humanity. |
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12/24/09 11:54:38 PM#76
Originally posted by abyss610
the reason being, as usual $$$$$$$$$$$$$, just like the y2k |
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12/25/09 12:03:21 AM#77
Well 2012 and Y2K aren't the same scenario in any way whatsoever. That's a silly comparison. While I do not believe we will see any of the mayhem that some are predicting, I do believe that we cannot predict the exact effects of the Galactic Alignment that will come in 2012. It could be as simple as our oceanic tides being temporarily disrupted. Or it could be much more severe. The truth is we won't know until 2012. But in all honesty I'd be a devout Christian if I took anything seriously that people from thousands of years ago took as the truth. Not exactly an enlightened time. "My fighting style is kneeing people's face" -Wanderlei Silva |
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Comnitus
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Joined: 6/03/09
Revenge is a dish best served with mayonnaise and those little cheesy things on sticks. |
12/25/09 12:05:25 AM#78
Conspiracy theories and apocalyptic musings are entertaining stuff, let me tell ya. However, if I wanted to hear about it, I'd just listen to Coast to Coast AM on the radio. I already know how the world is going to "end". Just don't know when.
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12/25/09 12:12:41 AM#79
Originally posted by marmoto
the reason being, as usual $$$$$$$$$$$$$, just like the y2k
I worked in a Science Museum for over 12 years. They had an interesting exhibit on calendars that included the Mayans. The Mayans actually had more than one type of calendar. The thing that blew me away was that one of their calendars was one that had a span of 5000 years. Unbelieveable. @marmoto Y2K is different. One involves our computers, the other involves our Galaxy. One is a small risk, the other is a bigger risk. Even if both turn out to be unnecessary and wasted fear. Does 2012 really have to turn into a bandwagon type of deal? Edit: Christmas Eve Alcohol induced grammatical errors. "My fighting style is kneeing people's face" -Wanderlei Silva |
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12/25/09 12:42:07 AM#80
we (Humanity) invented dates and years and calendars... anytime 1999, 2000, 999,1000, 666 or w/e is said to be the end is fail as its not really the 1000th year its more like the 7 billionth, four hundred and thirty six millionth, seven hundred and ninety two thousand, three hundred and forty first year. so when someone finds a calendar saying the world will end on the 8 billionth year... be scared. About 2012, some people have went to our alien for fathers. This I could see as anyone who thinks we are alone in the vast universe is an arrogant closed minded... ignorant christian. I find it odd Shiney men in the sky exist but aliens dont... hahahahahahaha jeez... End of the world... nah although 60,000-100,000 people will die on that day mostly due to natural causes. SCARY! "Sometimes people say stuff they don''t mean, but more often then that they don''t say things they do mean" |
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