Originally posted by caalem

 

Because most people don't even know what "Fallen Earth" is. They did almost zero advertising.

No, it is because people are purposefully stacking the polls in favor of there game of choice.

Icarus had TONS of advertising for FE prior to launch, and they have ramped up the advertising campaign even more following release. Please don't spread disinformation.

Originally posted by Euphoryk

Originally posted by caalem

 

Because most people don't even know what "Fallen Earth" is. They did almost zero advertising.

 

No, it is because people are purposefully stacking the polls in favor of there game of choice.

Icarus had TONS of advertising for FE prior to launch, and they have ramped up the advertising campaign even more following release. Please don't spread disinformation.

I didn't see a single fallen earth advertisement until mid-November. There's a good reason they probably have around 5k subs.

Originally posted by metalhead980

The polls are already corrupt. Someone already linked this in the official Aion forums.

Look at every poll and Aion is winning by atleast 10%

It's even voted number one over Fallen earth in crafting LOL!!!!!!!!!

I would suspect that there is a link to the voting on every MMO's official forums (that are in the running) by now.

Here is the link to a similar thread from DarkFall's official forums:

forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php

You can't really disparage Aion fans for doing something that every other MMO (including DarkFall) is doing as well.

Any of these type of "fan awards" are popularity contests.  It's always been that way... probably always will be.

Originally posted by Euphoryk

Originally posted by caalem

Because most people don't even know what "Fallen Earth" is. They did almost zero advertising.

No, it is because people are purposefully stacking the polls in favor of there game of choice.

Icarus had TONS of advertising for FE prior to launch, and they have ramped up the advertising campaign even more following release. Please don't spread disinformation.

Not only that, not everyone likes sandboxes specially post apocalypse/sci-fi many prefer fantasy style games.

Regardless of what game you like or dislike, these polls aren't really about the "Best of". They are about the "Most popular of". I say this because, in my opinion, it is unlikely that the average voter has actually tried the crafting (as an example) in all the MMOs listed. So, they are just going to click on the game they like (presumably the one they are playing). With that in mind, a game like Aion would already have a significant advantage over others since it has a larger player base then something like DF or Fallen Earth. Even if a higher percentage of DF/Fallen Earth/etc players voted in the polls, they could still be overwhelmed by the lower percentage of Aion players.

But, perhaps there is some truth in the idea that a game that sells more copies, and holds more subs, on some level, is a "better" game. Certainly, to the accounts, that would be the case. That said, I would say a number of games on the list have been a bit light on the marketing which could skew results. Additionally, many games have a limited audience that they are trying to cater to. Therefore, they may very well be successful within the market they are trying to work in, but not so much in "mainstream" appeal.

I guess in a three years when Aion will have 200k subscibers and DF 300k, that poll will look very fun...

Originally posted by Kshahdoo

I guess in a three years when Aion will have 200k subscibers and DF 300k, that poll will look very fun...

Seeing as Lineage2 still has a good 1.2 million subs about 5 years after its launch, and is a much much worse game than Aion....

That isn't happening.

The problem with player poles like this is that for every person that gives an honest vote there are 10 that vote for their game of the day in every category.

Originally posted by caalem

 This is why no one likes DFO. It's the xboxlive of MMORPGs, it's full of 13 year old ethugs that no one else likes, so they made their own community to trashtalk each other in.

No one likes DFO? Really? Is that why so many more people are taking the plunge to try the game and LOVING it?

As for your community comment, I don't know all these "13 year old ethugs" that you're talking about. As a matter of fact, I find the community is much more helpful then in many other MMOs I've played. Hell, when I started out on NA-1 when it first launched I had an Alfar (my race) come up to me in my starter city and hand me a bag full of good armor, excellent weapons, a few thousand arrows, and some reagents/potions.

All in all it was worth way over 15 thousand gold, and all he asked was, "Hey buddy, do you want some help?"

So before you spew nonsense about a community you haven't been involved with (and pre-subscriber forumfall does not count...), do a little research or hey! Try the game out yourself...

Originally posted by Kasmos

Originally posted by caalem

 This is why no one likes DFO. It's the xboxlive of MMORPGs, it's full of 13 year old ethugs that no one else likes, so they made their own community to trashtalk each other in.

 

No one likes DFO? Really? Is that why so many more people are taking the plunge to try the game and LOVING it?

As for your community comment, I don't know all these "13 year old ethugs" that you're talking about. As a matter of fact, I find the community is much more helpful then in many other MMOs I've played. Hell, when I started out on NA-1 when it first launched I had an Alfar (my race) come up to me in my starter city and hand me a bag full of good armor, excellent weapons, a few thousand arrows, and some reagents/potions.

All in all it was worth way over 15 thousand gold, and all he asked was, "Hey buddy, do you want some help?"

 

So before you spew nonsense about a community you haven't been involved with (and pre-subscriber forumfall does not count...), do a little research or hey! Try the game out yourself...

Well said and so true.

Originally posted by Kasmos

 

No one likes DFO? Really? Is that why so many more people are taking the plunge to try the game and LOVING it?

As for your community comment, I don't know all these "13 year old ethugs" that you're talking about. As a matter of fact, I find the community is much more helpful then in many other MMOs I've played. Hell, when I started out on NA-1 when it first launched I had an Alfar (my race) come up to me in my starter city and hand me a bag full of good armor, excellent weapons, a few thousand arrows, and some reagents/potions.

All in all it was worth way over 15 thousand gold, and all he asked was, "Hey buddy, do you want some help?"

 

So before you spew nonsense about a community you haven't been involved with (and pre-subscriber forumfall does not count...), do a little research or hey! Try the game out yourself...

Just as an FYI

The average age of a gamer is now 34 from my understanding I would not be surprised if its higher for DF players.

I mean honestly, do we see 40 year old gamers playing Aion or Darkfall? hmmm

Originally posted by SEANMCAD

 

Just as an FYI

The average age of a gamer is now 34 from my understanding I would not be surprised if its higher for DF players.

I mean honestly, do we see 40 year old gamers playing Aion or Darkfall? hmmm

Are these 40 year olds male or female?

Female - Aion

Male - Darkfall

Just my guess/opinion though.

Originally posted by Dragim

 

Are these 40 year olds male or female?

Female - Aion

Male - Darkfall

Just my guess/opinion though.

Maybe but just to watch over their pre-teenage childern.

Sorry I find Aion style to be ...dare I say it....cartoonish! (that word gets me a hate)

Originally posted by SEANMCAD

Originally posted by Dragim

 

Are these 40 year olds male or female?

Female - Aion

Male - Darkfall

Just my guess/opinion though.

 

Maybe but just to watch over their pre-teenage childern.

Sorry I find Aion style to be ...dare I say it....cartoonish! (that word gets me a hate)

I'm glad I'm not the only one that felt this way. When I logged in, it just felt like I was too old to play this game. Cartoonish is an understatement. I felt like I was in one of those 80's asian cartoon shows. It would have been awesome if I was still 10 years old.

First off, I hate end-of-year polls that use the word "best". These polls are gathering popularity data -- it has nothing to do with the best games.

Second, the currently leading "Best MMO Studio of 2009" is NCSoft. ROTFLMAO. That should tell you how bogus the poll is right there.

Originally posted by SEANMCAD

Originally posted by Dragim

 

Are these 40 year olds male or female?

Female - Aion

Male - Darkfall

Just my guess/opinion though.

 

Maybe but just to watch over their pre-teenage childern.

Sorry I find Aion style to be ...dare I say it....cartoonish! (that word gets me a hate)

lol, well I love Aion and I'm 42. But I like anime styled games.

Originally posted by Sovrath

Originally posted by SEANMCAD

 

Maybe but just to watch over their pre-teenage childern.

Sorry I find Aion style to be ...dare I say it....cartoonish! (that word gets me a hate)

 

lol, well I love Aion and I'm 42. But I like anime styled games.

Well more power to you then. In the end all that matters is if you're enjoying the game or not.

Originally posted by bacaloubaca

First off, I hate end-of-year polls that use the word "best". These polls are gathering popularity data -- it has nothing to do with the best games.

Second, the currently leading "Best MMO Studio of 2009" is NCSoft. ROTFLMAO. That should tell you how bogus the poll is right there.

 

 

Well...it is called the Readers' Choice Awards. So yeah...of course.

Originally posted by Kasmos

No one likes DFO? Really? Is that why so many more people are taking the plunge to try the game and LOVING it?

As for your community comment, I don't know all these "13 year old ethugs" that you're talking about. As a matter of fact, I find the community is much more helpful then in many other MMOs I've played. Hell, when I started out on NA-1 when it first launched I had an Alfar (my race) come up to me in my starter city and hand me a bag full of good armor, excellent weapons, a few thousand arrows, and some reagents/potions.

All in all it was worth way over 15 thousand gold, and all he asked was, "Hey buddy, do you want some help?"

Yes, all those 10k people.

A single example from a single person on the absolutely worst race? Hmm...

Originally posted by caalem

Originally posted by kazamx

Originally posted by caalem

thinks back 10 months when darkfall launched and they completely closed up shop not even allowing you to buy a new game

 

Better to refuse to take peoples money to try and keep current players happy than to sell way more copies than your servers can hold and end up with 10 hour queues like Aion did.

Aion only had queues on the highest pop servers and people were too stubborn to go to the lower pop servers. Mine never had a single queuetime

Lower populated servers had queutime as well. They were just not as long.