MMORPG.com World of Warcraft correspondent Sam Guss kicks off this series of articles designed to help prepare players for the eventual launch of Blizzard's next expansion, Cataclysm.

Next, let’s look at in-game tangible items. For everyone, this category is going to be different. These items can include PvP gear, Tiered gear, mounts, pets, trade skill items, etc. If you have more than one toon at level 80, this can even get further complicated as you try to meet your needs for each character. The best way I can describe this process is using my toons as an example.

The Rogue. He’s been my longest played toon and has been with me since the beginning. As far as gear goes, he’s “ok”. What tangible items does he need though to go into Cataclysm? Or more truthfully, what items do I want him to have? The answer to this is simple: mounts. Currently he has 25 mounts, but I am after 50. Many of these will become available as I work on faction (next section of the article), but some is going to cost both faction and gold. Luckily I have the faction already. The main mounts I want for the Rogue though are: Traveler’s Tundra Mammoth (for the vendors), the Red Rake from Wyrmcrest and the Chopper. In the end, since I already have the faction, I just need the gold: a lot of it. I also would like for him to have the Sea Turtle for the prestige factor.

Read Tying Up Loose Ends Part Two.

 I am so glad I do not play WOW. What you have been describing sounds like a mental illness where you "have" to have certain things because they are "epic". It is like people who are obsessed by collecting things...

A game should be fun to play, once it turns into trying to get a toon to level 80 then it is no longer fun. What do you do when your toon is level 80? What do you do when you have the most epic items? You realise that those things are actually meaningless and you have wasted your time.

Seriously go do some useful, helpful to others or try to have some fun at least ...

I've opened my email link to read this post and I look at the background pictures of mmorpg.com and I see a Dragon Age: Origins pictures. Then... my eyes look left again and I see the pictures of a human warlock and its pet...

And I think to myself, WoWis fken old! Why waste any more time and money with this game?

When I compare it to Dragon Age and all the fun I got playing and finishing it... All I can say is bye bye WoW, you are old news.

Originally posted by Saorlan

 I am so glad I do not play WOW. What you have been describing sounds like a mental illness where you "have" to have certain things because they are "epic". It is like people who are obsessed by collecting things...

A game should be fun to play, once it turns into trying to get a toon to level 80 then it is no longer fun. What do you do when your toon is level 80? What do you do when you have the most epic items? You realise that those things are actually meaningless and you have wasted your time.

Seriously go do some useful, helpful to others or try to have some fun at least ...

 

Lol I thought the exact same thing :)

Lol, he feels satisfied because he got a red gragon? lol

From the lasted posts about WoW, it seems the writers are very new to the game.

Wish i could have the last two minutes back.

Originally posted by Saorlan

 I am so glad I do not play WOW. What you have been describing sounds like a mental illness where you "have" to have certain things because they are "epic". It is like people who are obsessed by collecting things...

A game should be fun to play, once it turns into trying to get a toon to level 80 then it is no longer fun. What do you do when your toon is level 80? What do you do when you have the most epic items? You realise that those things are actually meaningless and you have wasted your time.

Seriously go do some useful, helpful to others or try to have some fun at least ...

 

Than there's no point for you to play any game. So what are you doing here?

These forum is for gamers, not you.

Alot of other players find it fun to collect stuff, gear up, challenge raid encounters, pvp, craft, etc...

Originally posted by sysadmin

When I compare it to Dragon Age and all the fun I got playing and finishing it...

I think the last part of that is the important part in this.  Finishing.  MMO are not finished.  There is satisfaction in beating a game that can not be found in an MMO.  MMO's is always about being better.  For some that is pvp and skill, other items, other doing content....it all depends, but it is not about beating it is about being better.

If I look at tangible items myself I will need to resupply myself with tooth-paste, bread, some cheese and coffee within a day or so, though I hope that my flatmate can assist with getting the coffee as I bought already some the last time.

Did anyone care?

Originally posted by Horusra

Originally posted by sysadmin

When I compare it to Dragon Age and all the fun I got playing and finishing it...

 

I think the last part of that is the important part in this.  Finishing.  MMO are not finished.  There is satisfaction in beating a game that can not be found in an MMO.  MMO's is always about being better.  For some that is pvp and skill, other items, other doing content....it all depends, but it is not about beating it is about being better.

I never said it wasn't. I just meant to say that for me, (eventough others might have a different opinion and I have to respect it) WoW doesn't currently give me so much fun at all, specialy if I compare the experience with some other recent computer games.

I've played WoW for some years. Now when I look back its something like, "' 've been there, done that, not fun anymore".

I had fun some of the 1rst mmorpgs I played like Lineage 1, Legend of Mir,Asheron's Call,etc, but now I would never return and play them again, even if they had hundreds of updates and new content.

I think WoW is at that stage...

ok...so basically you posted nothing that had any relevance to the topic at hand...

Originally posted by Horusra

ok...so basically you posted nothing that had any relevance to the topic at hand...

Does the topic at hand really have any relevance to anything at all itself? I agree it really does sound like a mental illness when you read the article. There isn't much playing going on it sounds exactly like obsessive compulsive disorder. Other people play wow and PLAY it.

Originally posted by TheFirst109

Originally posted by Horusra

ok...so basically you posted nothing that had any relevance to the topic at hand...

 

Does the topic at hand really have any relevance to anything at all itself? I agree it really does sound like a mental illness when you read the article. There isn't much playing going on it sounds exactly like obsessive compulsive disorder. Other people play wow and PLAY it.

The topic is regarding....erm..... planning? L2read...

Originally posted by arctarus

Originally posted by TheFirst109

Originally posted by Horusra

ok...so basically you posted nothing that had any relevance to the topic at hand...

 

Does the topic at hand really have any relevance to anything at all itself? I agree it really does sound like a mental illness when you read the article. There isn't much playing going on it sounds exactly like obsessive compulsive disorder. Other people play wow and PLAY it.

 

The topic is regarding....erm..... planning? L2read...

 

 

Actually it seemed to highlight the chore that game has become...planning is saying hey let's meet up on Friday to hang out...not "look everyone this is what my life will be like for the next year"

When you list things that you are going to do with such detail as to have the exact amount of gold you need to farm each week to meet your year's goal, you are entering obsessive compulsive personality disorder. Someone should get him help.

Originally posted by Saorlan

 I am so glad I do not play WOW. What you have been describing sounds like a mental illness where you "have" to have certain things because they are "epic". It is like people who are obsessed by collecting things...

A game should be fun to play, once it turns into trying to get a toon to level 80 then it is no longer fun. What do you do when your toon is level 80? What do you do when you have the most epic items? You realise that those things are actually meaningless and you have wasted your time.

Seriously go do some useful, helpful to others or try to have some fun at least ...

 

After you get all epic items the next expansion come and with it the new collection. ;) Nothing bad about that if you like it. As the only point in the game is item grind the only thing I do not understand why WoW have so limited storage space so it is impossible to keep all hard earned epic items over the years!

You have a todo list and have calculated the hours necessary to grind out the todo list.  That sounds like work.

Unfortunately, WoW's end-game IS work.  An MMORPG should play more like a fantasy novel than a Nike sweat shop.

Originally posted by arctarus

Originally posted by Saorlan

 I am so glad I do not play WOW. What you have been describing sounds like a mental illness where you "have" to have certain things because they are "epic". It is like people who are obsessed by collecting things...

A game should be fun to play, once it turns into trying to get a toon to level 80 then it is no longer fun. What do you do when your toon is level 80? What do you do when you have the most epic items? You realise that those things are actually meaningless and you have wasted your time.

Seriously go do some useful, helpful to others or try to have some fun at least ...

 

 

Than there's no point for you to play any game. So what are you doing here?

These forum is for gamers, not you.

Alot of other players find it fun to collect stuff, gear up, challenge raid encounters, pvp, craft, etc...

 

 

 

I think you need a translation: The problem is the lack of game play in a game. Its like naming stamp-collecting a game, and even worst -every year you need to throw your old stamps because you have only one binder.

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Originally posted by iZakaroN

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Originally posted by arctarus

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Originally posted by Saorlan

 I am so glad I do not play WOW. What you have been describing sounds like a mental illness where you "have" to have certain things because they are "epic". It is like people who are obsessed by collecting things...
A game should be fun to play, once it turns into trying to get a toon to level 80 then it is no longer fun. What do you do when your toon is level 80? What do you do when you have the most epic items? You realise that those things are actually meaningless and you have wasted your time.
Seriously go do some useful, helpful to others or try to have some fun at least ...
 

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Than there's no point for you to play any game. So what are you doing here?
These forum is for gamers, not you.
Alot of other players find it fun to collect stuff, gear up, challenge raid encounters, pvp, craft, etc...
 
 
 

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I think you need a translation: The problem is the lack of game play in a game. Its like naming stamp-collecting a game, and even worst -every year you need to throw your old stamps because you have only one binder.

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Best analogy I've ever heard describing this type of mmo.

Originally posted by DarkPony

If I look at tangible items myself I will need to resupply myself with tooth-paste, bread, some cheese and coffee within a day or so, though I hope that my flatmate can assist with getting the coffee as I bought already some the last time.

 

Did anyone care?

I care.

 After reading the original article all I can say is it could be of use to someone writing a paper on addiction or just general insanity. Now I may be completely off base here but how could any of the tasks the op mentions actually end  up being fun? Sounds like pure tedium to the point of nausea to me.