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General Discussion  » Ok, what the hell? Something's going on. This game may have a patch coming...

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  StrixMaxima

Elite Member

Joined: 2/07/09
Posts: 570

11/28/09 7:23:59 PM#21
Originally posted by Gadzy 

Because WoW, Aion and WAR had no hype at all.

 

Fact is that a load of people who never played the game gave low reviews based on bad press. The bad press was caused by darkfall bringing new gameplay to the genre and reviewers not knowing how to handle a game without auto-targeting and cute pets.

 

 

 

No game yet was as overhyped as DFO was. It was going to be perfect, ground-breaking and amazing, from day one. It would be feature complete, RP-heavy and totally immersive. Zounds of amazing features were ready to be launched.

And yet, this was not delivered. People got pissed, angry mobs ensued. Is this really that strange or hard to understand?

Heh, again, the classic "DFO is hardc0r3!" kind of nonsense. Get your "facts" straight before writing something. Most of the people who post criticisms actually play/played and contribute to the discussion and improvement of the game.

  heartless

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Joined: 1/05/04
Posts: 3885

Imagination will often carry us to worlds that never were. But without it we go nowhere. -Carl Sagan

11/28/09 7:45:20 PM#22
Originally posted by StrixMaxima
Originally posted by Gadzy 

Because WoW, Aion and WAR had no hype at all.

 

Fact is that a load of people who never played the game gave low reviews based on bad press. The bad press was caused by darkfall bringing new gameplay to the genre and reviewers not knowing how to handle a game without auto-targeting and cute pets.

 

 

 

No game yet was as overhyped as DFO was. It was going to be perfect, ground-breaking and amazing, from day one. It would be feature complete, RP-heavy and totally immersive. Zounds of amazing features were ready to be launched.

And yet, this was not delivered. People got pissed, angry mobs ensued. Is this really that strange or hard to understand?

Heh, again, the classic "DFO is hardc0r3!" kind of nonsense. Get your "facts" straight before writing something. Most of the people who post criticisms actually play/played and contribute to the discussion and improvement of the game.

Haven't you realized that anything but blind devotion to Darkfall and Aventurine gods will automatically brand you as a hater and a troll? It's the way of the Tasos.

  crysent

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Joined: 6/01/05
Posts: 499

11/28/09 8:10:09 PM#23
Originally posted by WhackANewbie
Originally posted by crysent
Originally posted by WhackANewbie
Originally posted by sjamP
Originally posted by WhackANewbie

you are saying 2 million people have tried Darkfall? Nothing against Darkfall but....epic fail. You need to divide big time.

 

There is quite a difference between 2 million people having watched the Darkfall page and 2 million people actually trying the game. That said, 2 million sounds like quite a lot, and I'm not going to completely dismiss the thought that some people have tried tampering with the statistics. However, there has been a lot of talk, good and bad, about Darkfall, hence a lot of people have probably checked out its page.


 

The posting says 'the visits to darkfall', nothing bout watching Darkfall. So fail. And no I'm not being a douche I just roll my eyes when people try to prove something when there is no evidence. The OP said nothing about watching it, only visiting. Visiting, as in, playing because you're visiting the world, not watching. If everyone 'visitied' an MMO, in your terminology, then no MMO would be cancelled.

Not that I really care that much, but I assumed he meant vists to either the webpage, or hits via mmorpg.  I highly doubt he meant played the game.

I dont care to debate semantics with you, I just think it was pretty obvious what he was trying to say.

If you did not care to debate semantics then why reply? a visit means you went somewhere. I went to california so i experienced it. if you visit darkfall you went there. i would think 'visit' would mean playing then going to a website. have him say what he meant, i don't care. but you commented on what i said when a visit can, clearly, imply that 2 million people have played the game. going to a website seems like unlikey, to me. you wanted to object to it.
 

Yes, see here is the problem "I would think", thats where we are having the problem, most seem to think the opposite of what you thought.  No visit does not "clearly" mean that people played darkfall.  I Dont know what you mean "going to a website seems like unlikey"  I dont know what that means, so im not sure how to respond to that.  What does "unlikey" mean?

  comerb

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Joined: 7/20/08
Posts: 955

11/28/09 8:15:40 PM#24

Fact is that a load of people who never played the game gave low reviews based on bad press. The bad press was caused by darkfall bringing new gameplay to the genre and reviewers not knowing how to handle a game without auto-targeting and cute pets.

 

 

 

That probably contributed, but it was more-so because the game really was pretty bad in a lot of ways at launch... and thats when it was most heavily rated. Apparently it has improved over the last year, and numbers are coming up.

  metalhead980

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Joined: 6/11/08
Posts: 2699

11/28/09 8:26:28 PM#25

 

Heh yeah it was hyped up but Like I always say the MMO in your head is always better than the real thing.

When you logged into DF and realized the game had no pve, was a grind and you got ganked the second you left a outpost area you no longer were on the hardcore pvp bandwagon.

DF sounds fantastic until you get owned and the realization hits that a game in almost 9 years of developement will look out of date compared to new mmos.

 

I watched thousands of fans turn on DF due to graphics, gankers, grind and lack of pve. Which would should have been expected.

 

Watching thousands of players scream for a Pve based sandbox a week after DFs release was pretty epic imo.

PLaying: EvE, Ryzom

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  Geeky

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Joined: 8/05/04
Posts: 205

11/28/09 8:33:24 PM#26

I just picked the game up a couple weeks ago and I love it.

Graphics never sold me on any game, but these aren't bad and don't detract from the game at all.  If anything I'd say with how dark it gets at night and how bloody my toon looks when I'm low on health, I'd say these are some the the most realist graphic's I've seen.

PvE = fun.  It'll be better (assuming they give us what they say in the next patch) but I love that when I'm kickin' a mobs ass it tries to run and get it's health back.  I've never played with my penis while playing a game, and the way this game works makes that impossible to do, so I can see why some people would have a problem here.

PvP = true point that has been lost in games.  Sure I'd like to be a spoiled brat and complain that I'm not getting my way.  But the truth is, there is a whole new level of excitement when I look in my backpack and see that I have 500 gold in there, and I just saw an arrow fired from another player wiz by my face.   It's scary, it's exhilarating , it's fun

Crafting = I have hated it in every game I have ever played.  And I've never done it.  However, in this game, I wouldn't say it's needed, but I do it because I want to.  I want to because I don't wanna be a steangthless wuss.  You actaully increase your own stats by crafting.  I do it because I don't wanna be ripped off by other players that have to craft my stuff.  All other games everyone know crafting is useless because better gear is always found on mobs.  There is gear on mobs but not better than what you can craft and enchant. 

Fun = more fun when you have 5 or 6 orcs standing outside the city gate, chatting with other players on where they are, where to go to get a better shot, whats going on, the fast action pace of it, and then the joy of knowing you killed one, but also the fun that he doesn't just go away he gets revived and is looking to kill me even more now.  Man, thats a blast.

I hate being ganked by asses hunting in noob land as much as the next guy.  And I'm not going to lie, some jackass continually kept trying to kill me.  However the next day I was ready and pwned him when he came for me.  Another time I played the jackass and pk'd some afk reds multipule times until they came back from afk and treated me like they're redheaded stepchild.

 

This game is fun, prefect no, right for everyone, no.  Hate if you must, but for those that can understand they aren't the center of the universe, then this is a really good game.

  xpiher

Novice Member

Joined: 8/22/08
Posts: 2236

11/28/09 8:49:32 PM#27

 


Originally posted by Devour

 

http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/4/view/ratings
"n00bara writes: Best game i ever played! Sat Nov 28 2009 4:37PM "
From someone who's never posted on this site.
Looks like we've got the Darkfall fan rampage, again. Like we did pre-release in which they ALL started coming here and setting the hype on the game to full in order to get attention for it. As encouraged by Twatface.



 
It couldn't be because of the mmorpg exclusive interview. No, it has to be dumb blind religious fanboys on the rampage. yea thats it
/sarcasm
 


Originally posted by StrixMaxima

Originally posted by Gadzy
Because WoW, Aion and WAR had no hype at all.

Fact is that a load of people who never played the game gave low reviews based on bad press. The bad press was caused by darkfall bringing new gameplay to the genre and reviewers not knowing how to handle a game without auto-targeting and cute pets.





No game yet was as overhyped as DFO was. It was going to be perfect, ground-breaking and amazing, from day one. It would be feature complete, RP-heavy and totally immersive. Zounds of amazing features were ready to be launched.
And yet, this was not delivered. People got pissed, angry mobs ensued. Is this really that strange or hard to understand?
Heh, again, the classic "DFO is hardc0r3!" kind of nonsense. Get your "facts" straight before writing something. Most of the people who post criticisms actually play/played and contribute to the discussion and improvement of the game.



AoC was

 


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  StrixMaxima

Elite Member

Joined: 2/07/09
Posts: 570

11/28/09 8:53:42 PM#28
Originally posted by xpiher

AoC was

 

 

Not for as long, and not as wildly. It was bad too, don't get me wrong. Drunken Brawling still comes to mind.

  Einstein-DF

Novice Member

Joined: 2/24/09
Posts: 799

11/28/09 8:56:23 PM#29

 Aion, AoC and warhammer were also more hyped than DF

 

 

  parrotpholk

Advanced Member

Joined: 1/20/05
Posts: 3185

11/28/09 9:45:07 PM#30
Originally posted by Einstein-DF

 Aion, AoC and warhammer were also more hyped than DF

 

 

Spoken for truth. AOC more than the other 2 in my mind but DF was only really hyped by those who really really follow MMOs and pvp ones at that.

  Cecropia

Gumshoe

Joined: 3/06/09
Posts: 2532

11/28/09 9:54:43 PM#31
Originally posted by parrotpholk
Originally posted by Einstein-DF

 Aion, AoC and warhammer were also more hyped than DF

 

 

Spoken for truth. AOC more than the other 2 in my mind but DF was only really hyped by those who really really follow MMOs and pvp ones at that.


 

Seriously, they are only now about to start advertising the game. The only previous exposure of Darkfall has been through forums like this, and word of mouth.

"My fighting style is kneeing people's face" -Wanderlei Silva

  StrixMaxima

Elite Member

Joined: 2/07/09
Posts: 570

11/28/09 10:26:57 PM#32

Hype is not advertising. Hype is inflating features and specs to make things more than they really are. Of course DFO could not be as advertised as WAR or AoC, as they have money and investors to do this kind of thing.

Those who follow DFO since forever know what I'm talking about.

Point is: few would argue that DFO wasn't hyped to high heavens. This created an expectation (and the devs happily instigated this even more), and at launch, well, it was not the game advertised. I think that those who bought the game based on that old site alone could very well be pissed off. There was a very large angry mob in this forum (and others).

Can you blame those people? Are they "haters"? I don't think so. It's a simple exercise of logic.

  Cecropia

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Joined: 3/06/09
Posts: 2532

11/28/09 11:03:49 PM#33
Originally posted by StrixMaxima

Hype is not advertising. Hype is inflating features and specs to make things more than they really are. Of course DFO could not be as advertised as WAR or AoC, as they have money and investors to do this kind of thing.

Those who follow DFO since forever know what I'm talking about.

Point is: few would argue that DFO wasn't hyped to high heavens. This created an expectation (and the devs happily instigated this even more), and at launch, well, it was not the game advertised. I think that those who bought the game based on that old site alone could very well be pissed off. There was a very large angry mob in this forum (and others).

Can you blame those people? Are they "haters"? I don't think so. It's a simple exercise of logic.


 

I won't disagree. They pumped up the game a little too much way back when. But take a look at where it has gotten them. People can't stop talking about the bloody game. And it's turning into something very special.

I've come to realise that some of the haters are just long time followers of DF that felt let down upon launch. I get that. But I honestly feel the game is much more than most are even aware. DF has come a long way baby.

If/when you return StrixMaxima, I will hook you up on NA-1 :)

"My fighting style is kneeing people's face" -Wanderlei Silva

  StrixMaxima

Elite Member

Joined: 2/07/09
Posts: 570

11/28/09 11:13:23 PM#34
Originally posted by Cecropia 

If/when you return StrixMaxima, I will hook you up on NA-1 :)

 

I smell a trap!

  MadnessRealm

Hard Core Member

Joined: 1/02/09
Posts: 2207

Ignorance is Bliss.

11/28/09 11:15:46 PM#35
Originally posted by daveospice

First the visits to darkfall spiked to a rediculous level (over 2 million unique users over the year or whatever), then the user rating within a months time went from like a 4.5 to a 7, and then all the posts turned positive.

Yet nothing about the game has changed.  The patch hasn't come yet.  The game is still in it's crappy state, that countless posts on this forum have noted. 

So there's something fishy going on here.  They must be posting positive posts, creating new users and rating it positive, because this game in my opinion is still a 4.5.  Nothing has changed it's still under developed, piece of crap game.  Only jail bait play it, which might be good that these idiots are spending all their time online instead of out on the streets.

 

Well FYI, the game has insanely changed since the June/July Patch. The reason why it took so long for players to actually go back to the game was that we were not aware of it or there was very few incentive to go back. Now with the annoucement of the expansion, players went back to the game and noticed the difference.

DarkFall in a crappy state? Perhaps if you actually gave the game a try you would know.....such a bad troll.

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  Cecropia

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Joined: 3/06/09
Posts: 2532

11/28/09 11:36:34 PM#36
Originally posted by StrixMaxima
Originally posted by Cecropia 

If/when you return StrixMaxima, I will hook you up on NA-1 :)

 

I smell a trap!


 

Man you're Brazilian, and your English is better than mine. Of course I'm going to sway you to my side. We need people like you in game.

"My fighting style is kneeing people's face" -Wanderlei Silva

  trashburnin

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Joined: 9/11/09
Posts: 247

11/29/09 2:09:57 PM#37
Originally posted by StrixMaxima
Originally posted by Gadzy 

Because WoW, Aion and WAR had no hype at all.

 

Fact is that a load of people who never played the game gave low reviews based on bad press. The bad press was caused by darkfall bringing new gameplay to the genre and reviewers not knowing how to handle a game without auto-targeting and cute pets.

 

 

 

No game yet was as overhyped as DFO was. It was going to be perfect, ground-breaking and amazing, from day one. It would be feature complete, RP-heavy and totally immersive. Zounds of amazing features were ready to be launched.

And yet, this was not delivered. People got pissed, angry mobs ensued. Is this really that strange or hard to understand?

Heh, again, the classic "DFO is hardc0r3!" kind of nonsense. Get your "facts" straight before writing something. Most of the people who post criticisms actually play/played and contribute to the discussion and improvement of the game.

Stix man I feel you.  AV lied to me too.   please refere to my post http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/4/view/forums/thread/260970/AV-lied-to-me-BAWWWWW.html

we are the same.

Im going to devote my entire post history to bashing darkfall too

 

i dont care if Darkfall had a rushed release, im still hurting inside that they lied to me. TO ME!!!

 

  StrixMaxima

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Joined: 2/07/09
Posts: 570

11/29/09 3:35:53 PM#38
Originally posted by trashburnin 

No game yet was as overhyped as DFO was. It was going to be perfect, ground-breaking and amazing, from day one. It would be feature complete, RP-heavy and totally immersive. Zounds of amazing features were ready to be launched.

And yet, this was not delivered. People got pissed, angry mobs ensued. Is this really that strange or hard to understand?

Heh, again, the classic "DFO is hardc0r3!" kind of nonsense. Get your "facts" straight before writing something. Most of the people who post criticisms actually play/played and contribute to the discussion and improvement of the game.

Stix man I feel you.  AV lied to me too.   please refere to my post http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/4/view/forums/thread/260970/AV-lied-to-me-BAWWWWW.html

we are the same.

Im going to devote my entire post history to bashing darkfall too

 

i dont care if Darkfall had a rushed release, im still hurting inside that they lied to me. TO ME!!!

 

 

*snicker*

I don't expect you to understand simple things that happen in life. You have already proven unable to do that.

I actually laughed at your other thread. Nicely done, for I didn't think you'd have the brain power for satire. Hey, after a while, you might even consider tackling "irony".

Don't stop believin'

  daarco

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11/29/09 7:21:30 PM#39

To get back about those 2 million hits here on MMORPG.com.....i think the haters and trolls must have done the 70% if those hits.

Just go back two years and you had 40 troll posts for every fanpost!

The thing is that both the DF fanbois and haters are very devoted to post here, mostly every day. Not even the AoC or SWG NGE forum whiners post as much.

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