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General Discussion  » Let's please understand, this is *not* a beta...

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  User Deleted
 
11/27/09 1:14:20 PM#1

Just had to mention, just *because* SV says it's a beta, does not quantify it as a beta. A beta is by definition, feature complete.

 

As of the other day, Emil Jones posted that he's 'completing a feature' meaning, that it's still being coded. They are going to ship it part of production with only the testing he's doing at his desk or a few other internal testers. This is what is done in alpha, separate systems are tested independently.

 

I'll wait for the fanboys to descend on this thread, but the simple fact is a lot of the folks who feel screwed over are those who thought they'd be playing a BETA (myself included), not a pre-alpha.

 

That's it folks, back to work for me. Ciao.

  Fariic

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Joined: 7/29/04
Posts: 1570

11/27/09 1:45:16 PM#2

You're a bitter troll.

Beta.
Tested by the public.

Alpha
tested  internally.

From getting your panties in a bunch because SV wouldn't let you set up the beta forums, to leaking beta videos and getting banned from the official forums, and now steadilly trolling as much negativety as you can.
You've really turned into a hell of a douchebag.

  xpiher

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Joined: 8/22/08
Posts: 2236

11/27/09 2:00:40 PM#3
Originally posted by Fariic

You're a bitter troll.

Beta.
Tested by the public.

Alpha
tested  internally.

From getting your panties in a bunch because SV wouldn't let you set up the beta forums, to leaking beta videos and getting banned from the official forums, and now steadilly trolling as much negativety as you can.
You've really turned into a hell of a douchebag.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beta_%28software%29

 


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  Demz2

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Joined: 2/28/07
Posts: 500

11/27/09 2:04:45 PM#4

I was in warhammer beta for near;y 2 years, aoc beta for 1 year and Tcos beta for 2+ years, and in no way did those betas represent the finished product.  So wtf are u babling on about, you think betas are feature complete???LOL.

 

Jesus if it were not for beta testing in warhamemr they would not even have fortreses to fight at, everythign would be inscenarios.  You think MO beta is supposed to be feature complete??  get a bloody grip please.

  ozy1

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Joined: 7/22/05
Posts: 323

Darkfall from Day 1

11/27/09 2:06:15 PM#5

this the guy that got banned ?

Playing Darkfall EU1 Server

  Brif

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Joined: 1/07/09
Posts: 559

11/27/09 2:06:48 PM#6
Originally posted by xpiher
Originally posted by Fariic

You're a bitter troll.

Beta.
Tested by the public.

Alpha
tested  internally.

From getting your panties in a bunch because SV wouldn't let you set up the beta forums, to leaking beta videos and getting banned from the official forums, and now steadilly trolling as much negativety as you can.
You've really turned into a hell of a douchebag.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beta_%28software%29

 


"Beta level software generally includes all features, but may also include known issues and bugs of a less serious variety."

 

  User Deleted
11/27/09 2:11:46 PM#7

So did they push back release?

It still says 2009 here on MMORPG.com's game list.

 

Ken

 

  FreddyNoNose

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Joined: 8/06/05
Posts: 1564

11/27/09 2:15:21 PM#8
Originally posted by HerculesSAS

Just had to mention, just *because* SV says it's a beta, does not quantify it as a beta. A beta is by definition, feature complete.

 

As of the other day, Emil Jones posted that he's 'completing a feature' meaning, that it's still being coded. They are going to ship it part of production with only the testing he's doing at his desk or a few other internal testers. This is what is done in alpha, separate systems are tested independently.

 

I'll wait for the fanboys to descend on this thread, but the simple fact is a lot of the folks who feel screwed over are those who thought they'd be playing a BETA (myself included), not a pre-alpha.

 

That's it folks, back to work for me. Ciao.


 

Feature complete. lol.

  apple01

Novice Member

Joined: 8/11/09
Posts: 47

11/27/09 3:24:56 PM#9
Originally posted by Brif
Originally posted by xpiher
Originally posted by Fariic

You're a bitter troll.

Beta.
Tested by the public.

Alpha
tested  internally.

From getting your panties in a bunch because SV wouldn't let you set up the beta forums, to leaking beta videos and getting banned from the official forums, and now steadilly trolling as much negativety as you can.
You've really turned into a hell of a douchebag.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beta_%28software%29

 


"Beta level software generally includes all features, but may also include known issues and bugs of a less serious variety."

 

Wikipedia is by no means official. Basically, software development go through different stages, traditionally called alpha and beta. Usually alpha is internal test stage and beta is released to a collection of selected final users, usually with full features implemented. There is no official definitions how a software must go through. All software companies choose their own most proper ways to doing test. It is a beta because it is not alfa and it is not released yet, before, of course maybe in the future, the governement standard body decides to define beta and send the police to close the company if it choose a different definition.   
 

  apple01

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Joined: 8/11/09
Posts: 47

11/27/09 3:37:51 PM#10

I am too worried about Hercules mental stability. He has been angry about Star Vault for quite a long time since they turned down his proposal to remake their forums. What could happen if he is fired by his employer, since he is coding financial software? I hope he is not working for a big bank. He may cause next financial crisis. 

  ghoul31

Novice Member

Joined: 4/21/04
Posts: 1944

11/27/09 3:43:07 PM#11

He makes a valid point. Its still in alpha stage according to most people's defination. But all the fanbois do is make personal attacks against him. I guess the truth hurts.

 

  krieblood

Apprentice Member

Joined: 5/10/07
Posts: 255

VindiCore

11/27/09 3:46:03 PM#12
Originally posted by HerculesSAS

Just had to mention, just *because* SV says it's a beta, does not quantify it as a beta. A beta is by definition, feature complete.

 

As of the other day, Emil Jones posted that he's 'completing a feature' meaning, that it's still being coded. They are going to ship it part of production with only the testing he's doing at his desk or a few other internal testers. This is what is done in alpha, separate systems are tested independently.

 

I'll wait for the fanboys to descend on this thread, but the simple fact is a lot of the folks who feel screwed over are those who thought they'd be playing a BETA (myself included), not a pre-alpha.

 

That's it folks, back to work for me. Ciao.

Ill just reply by image cuz i dont feel like talking to you.

You need picture books anyway to understand things i see so heres your picture.

Mortal Online/EarthRise/Project V13

TheVindicators.com

  krieblood

Apprentice Member

Joined: 5/10/07
Posts: 255

VindiCore

11/27/09 3:46:45 PM#13
Originally posted by ghoul31

He makes a valid point. Its still in alpha stage according to most people's defination. But all the fanbois do is make personal attacks against him. I guess the truth hurts.

 

 

No im sure your a troll to.

Mortal Online/EarthRise/Project V13

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  mokoleus

Novice Member

Joined: 8/20/06
Posts: 143

11/27/09 3:49:35 PM#14

betas are feature complete? maybe in any other genre of game, but in a mmo, they don't LAUNCH feature complete!

  User Deleted
11/27/09 4:22:37 PM#15
Originally posted by ozy1

this the guy that got banned ?

 

Yea, Hercules was banned from both the game and  forums for breaking the NDA and leaking.   He also had an account on this forum called MOLeaker.  His history is he went and set up his own "beta forum" for StarVault.   They told him no and after that it has been his lifes mission to slam anything he can that he can.     At least his opinions on the forum changed immediately after.  I believe ive even heard him say he cant wait until Mortal Online fails so he can come back and laugh.    

 

 

 

 

 

  ozy1

Novice Member

Joined: 7/22/05
Posts: 323

Darkfall from Day 1

11/27/09 5:24:34 PM#16

arr hes butt hurt...

Playing Darkfall EU1 Server

  User Deleted
11/27/09 5:28:33 PM#17

i already made a character with your name so when Mortal Online is finally done you can't take it, so ha! go complain about something meaningful in -real- life.

  donjuanamigo

Novice Member

Joined: 7/28/09
Posts: 272

11/27/09 5:33:04 PM#18

ok so its not a beta. what are you going to do now? really, what are you going to do? theres nothing you can do. you can either participate and help the game move along by providing constructive criticism from your experience or just shut up and crawl back under whatever rock you crawled out from under.

i have some interest in this game but all i keep reading is the pissing and moaning people are doing about having to pay to play beta etc. If im not mistaken, and someone can correct me if im wrong, SV said what the state of the game was in before they sold boxes and how they were going to implement those stages as they got things working.  every post i read about people crying about this subject makes me want to puke.

  tbox

Apprentice Member

Joined: 11/02/06
Posts: 363

11/27/09 7:20:27 PM#19

 I have not bought or nor am i in beta  with this game.  That being said Star Vault in their news letters seem to be pretty blunt and honest with their progress.  Beta seems to spam a whole spectrim of completeness.   They said if you pre order you would be paying to beta test did they not?   I seen way more bullshit and overexerations in many other MMO's (DF)  that  Mortal online devs seem pretty blunt and straight  forward. Dunno just my thoughts with what I have experanced. 

  TheConfined

Novice Member

Joined: 8/01/09
Posts: 61

11/28/09 12:16:23 AM#20

how the fuck can you give your thoughts about your experiences when you just admitted you haven't even played the fucking game yet...how do people get this god damn retarded I simply don't get it

how have you seen more bullshit from other MMO's when you haven't even seen the bullshit that Mortal Online certainly is...the game is absolute garbage and never in my life have I seen such an incomplete game so close to a supposed release

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