[quote] Originally posted by Realbigdeal
If you want to listen to a real review, read that one

(Made By Cronix)

I though to jump the bawnwagon of the reviews and share my opinion about the game. But please note that this is not the holy truth, but simply my opinion as beta tester.

*snip*

Currently the game is not in state of free play time most betas of the MMOs are, but rather in a bug testing mode. Yet people seems be having fun, and the key to it seems not only be the feeling of exploration of a new world, but also the fun when you can interact with that world in a more freely way then in other MMO's.

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This is a pretty good representation of how the game currently is, while i don't agree with everything you said - i do agree with about 95% of it.  Unfortunately you posted it in this flame thread and i doubt most people are getting past that first post.  Maybe you should make a new thread with it so that people actually get to see a decent review.

As to the op: it seems like he would be impressed if the game just had more emotes/animations half of his complaints seem to be focused around the fact that features are basic (but functional).  I also get the feeling that while he has played every patch, he didnt play them much and just wanted to confirm his already jaded opinion.  For example while taming is just typing the word taming at first, the system has depth.  When you get a pet to be loyal to you its not just yours forever, every command you give it lowers its loyalty to you and you raise that loyalty back by feeding/bandaging it.  Also it looses loyalty over time if you dont take care of it, even while your logged out - but you can set it to graze while your not there so that can be counteracted.  While the taming/pet control system does need some work - especially in regards to some kind of UI, it does make sense that you are talking to the animal and i certainly think the basics of the system will allow it to become a very good feature when it is finished.

So really just take everything the OP said with a grain of salt, there is truth to some of it - but it seems like he didnt really put much effort into trying out the systems before he just decided they were crap.

edit: my browser doesnt seem to let me use the buttons and i don't know the script for this site

The whole MMORPG genre is a scam, players are being pimped and slapped around by developers and we don't even ask why. "PAY US $40 for alpha test" "Yeah sure why not" ... "Some promised features are missing, buy it anyways"   "...Can't you just put in the features then release?"   "*Slap* you better by the game bitch before i kick your ass outta my corner"    "Alright".....

Us as costumers are being abused and used, because the developers out there now that MMORPG genre is really lagging behind other genres, don't bring WoW into this. They can release any old crap with something shiney  and we'll floak, because thats how desperate we've become.

I never liked Darkfall and never played it. I did however get a chance to watch a fellow combat medic play since he was all excited about the PvP aspects of the game. Needless to say, he stopped playing DF after the first free month. I haven't been following MO at all, despite all the hype about it being DF's demise. I read everything the OP stated and I didn't sense any DF fanboi statements in the least, not even one mention of DF or comparison. This leads me to believe the OP isn't lying but I still take what people say with a grain of salt. Then I see a few MO fans respond with, well, he isn't lying, but the game just needs polish. Ok folks, the opening statement sounds like more than just needed polish. The game sounds extremely incomplete and boring. Again, I've been around the MMO industry since Meridian 59, UO and EQ days and just like I used to bash DF for being vaporware for 8 years of production and Dark and Light for being scrupulous as well as Mourning. MO sounds like another scam in the works which is funny cause these trends are all coming from Full Loot Full PvP games only.

#1 - Mourning
#2 - Dark and Light
#3 - Darkfall Online
#4 - Mortal Online

Granted Darkfall wasn't really vaporware after all, it still is a fairly hopeless game. However, it did finally deliver a product as intended, despite it being worthless in my eyes. Do I think MO is following the same Hardcore PvP scamalicious type avenue as it's 3 previous PvP MMOs? I'm beginning to really think so.

Originally posted by MiteFiend

 

Still got beta access tho, hah.

 

Originally posted by MortalOnline

Originally posted by MiteFiend

 

Still got beta access tho, hah.

 

 

Hmm, nope you dont!  

Hmm, I bet he does... cause even if you worked for MO, I highly doubt you have enough resources or manpower to figure out which account his is, lol.

Originally posted by MortalOnline

Originally posted by MiteFiend

 

Still got beta access tho, hah.

 

 

Hmm, nope you dont!  

Wow you are fast. 5 mins after posting, you banned my account based on matching MMORPG/beta account names. No hard feelings here, but shouldn't you guys be working on your game and not monitoring MMORPG.com threads? Funny shit.

Took ya long enough. I practically asked you to do it for me.

Originally posted by MiteFiend

Originally posted by MortalOnline

Originally posted by MiteFiend

 

Still got beta access tho, hah.

 

 

Hmm, nope you dont!  

 

Wow you are fast. 5 mins after posting, you banned my account based on matching MMORPG/beta account names. No hard feelings here, but shouldn't you guys be working on your game and not monitoring MMORPG.com threads? Funny shit.

Took ya long enough. I practically asked you to do it for me.

if i was them i would pay attention to threads calling my company a scam?

Originally posted by MiteFiend

Originally posted by MortalOnline

Originally posted by MiteFiend

 

Still got beta access tho, hah.

 

 

Hmm, nope you dont!  

 

Wow you are fast. 5 mins after posting, you banned my account based on matching MMORPG/beta account names. No hard feelings here, but shouldn't you guys be working on your game and not monitoring MMORPG.com threads? Funny shit.

Funny, that they can ban on speculation, since they can't prove that account is yours. Just another reason to chalk this company up as a bunch of thieving scam artists. Sorry, but I really hate rude and obnoxious want-to-be employees of gaming companies trying to act all tough on public forums. Sorry, but you are between a rock and a hard place now and your public actions will definitely determine what a lot of prospective players will use to figure out whether this game is legitimately worth it or not.

Originally posted by MortalOnline

Originally posted by MiteFiend

 

Still got beta access tho, hah.

 

 

Hmm, nope you dont!  

Also you just verified that people indeed did "pay for beta"! And wasn't just A PERK!  I let you sit on my money for 3 months.

My credit card has a maximum 3 month limit on refunds, and was planning on purchasing the game if/when it launches, and gets a few good reviews/updates. I wasnt interested in letting you hold my money for 6 months, so I got a legitamate refund for a 75$ boxed version that was 2 months late being shipped. So now you're going to single me out while out on your PR crusade. GG.

Yup you heard it here folks, Pay to beta test, it's not a perk.

Hey look.
The OP is complaining about beta testing.

Originally posted by MiteFiend

Originally posted by MortalOnline

Originally posted by MiteFiend

 

Still got beta access tho, hah.

 

 

Hmm, nope you dont!  

 

Also you just verified that people indeed did "pay for beta"! And wasn't just A PERK!  I let you sit on my money for 3 months.

My credit card has a maximum 3 month limit on refunds, and was planning on purchasing the game if/when it launches, and gets a few good reviews/updates. I wasnt interested in letting you hold my money for 6 months, so I got a legitamate refund for a 75$ boxed version that was 2 months late being shipped. So now you're going to single me out while out on your PR crusade. GG.

Yup you heard it here folks, Pay to beta test, it's not a perk.

It's amazing what happens when one thread causes a gaming company to rear it's ugly head in such a manner that is nothing short of childish. I rarely trust what gaming companies say, cause they will lie through their teeth to make box sales, aka Age of Conan. Sorry Mortal Online, but Funcom has a lot more reputation than you in this genre and I certainly don't trust you more than them and so your future depends on your public actions and today, you just %!@# up, lol.

Originally posted by Fariic

Hey look.
The OP is complaining about beta testing.

 

 

Originally posted by Fariic

Hey look.
The OP is complaining about paying to alpha test for a game due to release in about 2 months.

Ok, fixed your statement and your welcome.

Originally posted by Rhoklaw

Originally posted by MiteFiend

Originally posted by MortalOnline

Originally posted by MiteFiend

 

Still got beta access tho, hah.

 

 

Hmm, nope you dont!  

 

Wow you are fast. 5 mins after posting, you banned my account based on matching MMORPG/beta account names. No hard feelings here, but shouldn't you guys be working on your game and not monitoring MMORPG.com threads? Funny shit.

 

Funny, that they can ban on speculation, since they can't prove that account is yours. Just another reason to chalk this company up as a bunch of thieving scam artists. Sorry, but I really hate rude and obnoxious want-to-be employees of gaming companies trying to act all tough on public forums. Sorry, but you are between a rock and a hard place now and your public actions will definitely determine what a lot of prospective players will use to figure out whether this game is legitimately worth it or not.

With the amount of information they can get from his profile and if he used the same name theres plenty of proof to ban the account.

To the OP, I realize that 75 dollars for a game is a bit much normally, but it isn't your normal boxed version it comes with a special Tin case granted its more of a collectors item but if your not into that stuff go for the download edition, and the 100 dollar edition is up there with other games, halo 3 - 129.99 , Mordern Warfare 2 - 145 dollars for their prestige so its not unheard of.

People always say pay to play beta, which I think its totally retarded, if you thought that way why in the hell did you buy the game I mean seriously..... I wish SV had a work around for people that think like you and could give you what your saying you paid for the beta, and not send you your finished copy of the game, because guess what thats what you paid for.

The release date of MO has not been set in stone and as we are coming near the estimated release date I believe we will hear word soon about either them thinking they will make the release date or an announcement that the game will be pushed back.

For everyone saying this is a scam, I have to say this game is a pretty expensive scam considering they spent over 500k just on the unreal engine.

Why listen to random people review the game when they have announced an Open Beta closer to release of the game judge for yourself if you are interested like many of us have said. Without proof everything on this forum board is pure speculation.

Originally posted by Abloec

Originally posted by Rhoklaw

Originally posted by MiteFiend

Originally posted by MortalOnline

Originally posted by MiteFiend

 

Still got beta access tho, hah.

 

 

Hmm, nope you dont!  

 

Wow you are fast. 5 mins after posting, you banned my account based on matching MMORPG/beta account names. No hard feelings here, but shouldn't you guys be working on your game and not monitoring MMORPG.com threads? Funny shit.

 

Funny, that they can ban on speculation, since they can't prove that account is yours. Just another reason to chalk this company up as a bunch of thieving scam artists. Sorry, but I really hate rude and obnoxious want-to-be employees of gaming companies trying to act all tough on public forums. Sorry, but you are between a rock and a hard place now and your public actions will definitely determine what a lot of prospective players will use to figure out whether this game is legitimately worth it or not.

 

With the amount of information they can get from his profile and if he used the same name theres plenty of proof to ban the account.

 

To the OP, I realize that 75 dollars for a game is a bit much normally, but it isn't your normal boxed version it comes with a special Tin case granted its more of a collectors item but if your not into that stuff go for the download edition, and the 100 dollar edition is up there with other games, halo 3 - 129.99 , Mordern Warfare 2 - 145 dollars for their prestige so its not unheard of.

 

People always say pay to play beta, which I think its totally retarded, if you thought that way why in the hell did you buy the game I mean seriously..... I wish SV had a work around for people that think like you and could give you what your saying you paid for the beta, and not send you your finished copy of the game, because guess what thats what you paid for.

 

The release date of MO has not been set in stone and as we are coming near the estimated release date I believe we will hear word soon about either them thinking they will make the release date or an announcement that the game will be pushed back.

 

For everyone saying this is a scam, I have to say this game is a pretty expensive scam considering they spent over 500k just on the unreal engine.

 

Why listen to random people review the game when they have announced an Open Beta closer to release of the game judge for yourself if you are interested like many of us have said. Without proof everything on this forum board is pure speculation.

All i got to say is you got

 Side note: What happened to the hard copies that were originally planned to go out in September or so?

@ Abloec

So what your saying is, if I own a gaming company, I can do speculative bans simply by cross-referencing account names with public forum names? Cause if thats the case, I feel sorry for the few people that have used my MMORPG.com name as account names for games, which has happened.

And yes, my MMORPG.com is completely unique and original, yet people have still used it for some odd reason. It's flattering really, but also annoying.

Anyhow, the actions seen on this thread are nothing less than PR immaturiy.

Originally posted by Kordesh

 Side note: What happened to the hard copies that were originally planned to go out in September or so?

so, what were they gonna send out - blank disks for you to copy to when a finished (hahah) game can be downloaded?

Originally posted by Rhoklaw

Originally posted by Fariic

Hey look.
The OP is complaining about beta testing.

 

 

 

Originally posted by Fariic

Hey look.
The OP is complaining about paying to alpha test for a game due to release in about 2 months.

Ok, fixed your statement and your welcome.

What is the pic for your avatar from?
Looks like a WoW nightelf?

No you didn't fix it.

Let's aply a little common sense and logic here.
The OP willingly purchased a game that granted access to beta.
He knowingly, and without consideration, agreed to give money to a company for a copy of a game, so that he could get into beta.

A couple of months later he starts his review with "You have to pay for beta."

He CHOSE to buy a copy of the game that granted him access to beta.
Then he bitches about it?

BTW,
Alpha indicates that software is being tested in some fashion by the developers.  Whether that be through 3rd party testers, while being overseen by the devs, or by the devs themselves; typically through a QA department.

Beta means that the software is in the hands of the perspective market for testing.

I don't remember you being this big a troll Rhok.
What happen?

Originally posted by Fariic

Originally posted by Rhoklaw

Originally posted by Fariic

Hey look.
The OP is complaining about beta testing.

 

 

 

Originally posted by Fariic

Hey look.
The OP is complaining about paying to alpha test for a game due to release in about 2 months.

Ok, fixed your statement and your welcome.

 

What is the pic for your avatar from?
Looks like a WoW nightelf?

No you didn't fix it.

Let's aply a little common sense and logic here.
The OP willingly purchased a game that granted access to beta.
He knowingly, and without consideration, agreed to give money to a company for a copy of a game, so that he could get into beta.

A couple of months later he starts his review with "You have to pay for beta."

He CHOSE to buy a copy of the game that granted him access to beta.
Then he bitches about it?

BTW,
Alpha indicates that software is being tested in some fashion by the developers.  Whether that be through 3rd party testers, while being overseen by the devs, or by the devs themselves; typically through a QA department.

Beta means that the software is in the hands of the perspective market for testing.

I don't remember you being this big a troll Rhok.
What happen?

I'm not hating on MO Fariic, but rather a beta account gets banned simply because of a random thread on a public gaming forum. I really don't care about MO or Darkfall cause of games that came out before them. Lets just say because of Mourning, Dark and Light and Darkfall, I really have a hard time believing any of these indy companies trying the same route. Darkfall proved me wrong as being vaporware, but despite that, the game is still ridiculous.

As for testing phases, alpha is the testing of core mechanics and isn't always done in-house. I alpha tested Asheron's Call 2 as well as beta'd and so speaking from experience, MO's current state of the game sounds more like late alpha or early beta and is nowhere ready for release.

As for paying for a game and getting beta access, your right, thats what he did. The problem is, they were told the game was being released in September or whatever and that never happened. So, people begin to speculate about their investment. I mean, if I pay $75 for a game and it now seems like its still far from release, I'd be concerned as well.

Like I said, I haven't even followed MO in the least as the other 3 games just like it were pretty much hoax's, scams or misleading. We'll see how things pan out over the next couple months, but right now, I really don't care for people's beta accounts being banned simply because their public game forum name matches an in-game account name.

P.S. My avatar is a NE from WoW yes, but my sig is from Aion, neither of which I play anymore. I'm actually playing Anarchy Online at the moment, go figure.

Originally posted by Rhoklaw

Originally posted by MiteFiend

Originally posted by MortalOnline

Originally posted by MiteFiend

 

Still got beta access tho, hah.

 

 

Hmm, nope you dont!  

 

Wow you are fast. 5 mins after posting, you banned my account based on matching MMORPG/beta account names. No hard feelings here, but shouldn't you guys be working on your game and not monitoring MMORPG.com threads? Funny shit.

 

Funny, that they can ban on speculation, since they can't prove that account is yours. Just another reason to chalk this company up as a bunch of thieving scam artists. Sorry, but I really hate rude and obnoxious want-to-be employees of gaming companies trying to act all tough on public forums. Sorry, but you are between a rock and a hard place now and your public actions will definitely determine what a lot of prospective players will use to figure out whether this game is legitimately worth it or not.

Lol, speculation? I heard there were some matching names, mails and a refund done on his account.

Hmm, well. Lets say the developers are probabely working on their game atm. I am not  So no time taken from the game I suppose ;o)