Originally posted by Horusra

I hugged the internet....and now I have herpies 

Next time, try one of these...
 

I'm not trying to turn this into a political thread, but if you haven't heard about this in the USA, it's time you were informed...

That sonofabitch John McCain has proposed a bill he calls the "Internet Freedom Act". The irony is that the bill is - very literally - the EXACT OPPOSITE of freedom - for us. The bill gives ISPs the right to throttle content to their users. In other words, if you use an ISP that is owned by a company that also owns CNN, for example, your speeds when viewing CNN.com will be great, while they can slow down your attempt at viewing MSNBC.com or FoxNews.com.

Democrat, Republican, Independent - it doesn't matter. If you use the internet, you DO NOT want this legislation to pass.

What about that whole cloud computing thing? Isn't that supposed to pretty much eliminate this issue?

I find it hilarious how people act like such helpless morons when it comes to stuff like this.   The internet is not a "Privilege" you pay money for the shit, you get what you pay for simple.   If ISP's do something you don't like then complain, as for saying oh they don't listen.   Guess what they WILL listen if they're going broke because no one is buying their product.   People need to start thinking business and the money they put in for stuff, money runs the world so start acting like it.    You're as helpless as you make yourself simple....

Originally posted by Palebane

What about that whole cloud computing thing? Isn't that supposed to pretty much eliminate this issue?

It seems the Stairway to the Stars starts at your ISP

Well didn't know that bill was coming up. I guess it's time to contact my senators. And set up a meeting with them. I'M NOT going to go for that kind of shit. This is that same old shit that was talked about on the chans for along time. You pay for the internet like cable. You get to "choose" which sites you go to. It's pretty much that b/c if they're like oh he's going to "www.site.com" we better make his speed go at .1Kb/s. But OH he's going to our home page. Let's make it up to 1.5Mb/s.

With that said, where i live there's "magically" no other isps that service my area except "hugesnet" which anyone who's ever used their service knows is byfar the biggest fraud ever. So there's nothing else that i can do. I have to sit here with my "1.5Mb/s" internet as they say it is. But in reality it's normally ~70KB/s to ~100KB/s for most of the day. But can i do anything? Nope, somehow Comcast, Cox, Verizon, AT&T and all of the others "magically" don't service my town. I find it great that they don't. Just plain old great. Right now i'm paying 40$ a month for "1.5Mb/s" internet. Which is slow 99% of the time. Buggy as hell and well isn't too reliable. If i had a choice i'd change it right away. I wish someone else would come out here and set up shop. That way my telephone company couldn't hold their horrible monopoly on this place. They'd make a killing. My friend out in CA tells me he gets 25Mb/s for 25$ a month. And that's unmetered. Also the EU jesus i wish i was over there right now. I'D LOVE to have that kind of network.

Currently i've been looking at server costs just out of curiosity. In the US you pay ~2x as much for a server that has bandwith restrictions as you do for one in the UK which has none. It's crazy and that's all i can say. It's byfar the most wild thing that i've ever seen.

As these ones like comcast and roadrunner attempt to put caps on it. It's completely pointless really. B/c it all balances out. It's COMPLETELY pointless.  90% of the people who get 512Kb/s+ net speed will only maybe download an attachment or two everyday. So they're barely using any bandwith at all. So those who use alot are balancing it out if not more. I HATE how the internet is in this area. When i was out in college before teh old person who ran the dorms left. That internet was amazing.  I swear we had a 100Mb/s connection in the dorms. I got ~25MB/s avg. dl speed on speedtest when he was there. It was amazing. Well he quit, then the school got someone new. Actually two people, everything went down hill. The net was down 50% of the time, and also it'd go down to insanely low speeds my ping in wow was over 700Ms 90% of thetime. It was redicolous. Alot of the first year students who were there for their two semesters or well one semester never came back. They said screw this we need our internet. Alot of the people who just go out and hang around said "oh just go into the commons". Yeah sure alot of people went in there but the point was we were paying for it. Until companies have broadband EVERYWHERE i mean every company should have service providing in EVERYPART of the us. Until they do it won't get anybetter.

Also one of the site managers should seriously fix these forums. They're not letting me use my firefox builtin spellchecker.

Im glad you point this out becuase my University when I went to college this year, I tried to log into LoTRo, then EQ and then Runes of Magic all without luck. So I went to the IT support office and asked them what was wrong and why I couldnt log in. This was the response I got,

"You are unable to log into your games because we have but a filter, a bandwidth controller essentially, on the Universities internet. This is due to the large number of gamers on campus playing games such as World of Warcraft and eating up all of the bandwidth. It used to be so bad that people couldnt even access thier emails."

wtf? This is exactly what this article is talking about and it is outrageous that my university(and unfortunately ISP's) refuse to give the support that their paying customers pay for.  Ugh. I dont want to be restricted at home too.

It's interesting that the internet was created in the US, the backbone resides in the US. But Europeans get faster connections with no bandwidth caps and Americans get slower connections with bandwidth caps.

It would be interesting to see it taken over and regulated as a utility because let's face it each year the internet gets regulated more into our lives and in fact is how some people take care of business and all of their bills. The internet costs are already fairly ridiculous so I don't know how much more overpriced they could get here in the US.

Also there have been bids by for profit companies to take over the internet from the non-profit company that runs it. The result of that would be far worse then having it regulated. They could control what sites you could visit and what you could do with the internet not to mention raise prices etc.

well you see my school was one of those "tech schools" you always hear about. It's made for those who want to go into netsec or software engineering. There's some other media related courses but that's about it.

And our IT never said "oh we have a built in filter" they were far from it. They said "we're stopping torrenting" yet somehow people were still torrenting as you cannot stop it unless you literally block every port except 80 and also due a few other things. But anyway, there was a guy who had his own server up and running. That's right some guy on campus had his own WoW Private server running. That thing stayed onw for a few weeks. Did the school confiscate his server? I don't believe so. Why? b/c the same thing started happening again a little ways down the road.  It was just plain horrible, our IT department was full or morons who almost never worked. And yet sometimes the staff would be like "oh feel sorry for them they're overworked." Well then why don't you hire more? We're all paying you to have our intranet and internet up 24/7 as this is a school where our entire life revolves around the web.

This was b/c they FORCED US to turn in our homework on this horrible written software called "ecollege" even on campus. We had to use this horribly buggy software. Back when firefox 3.0 came out. They were JUST THEN supporing IE6.  it's byfar the worst thing i've ever had to deal with. So there was no excuse for it being down. AS all of our assignments, our discussions we had to do etc, were all online. So if it was down we lost precious time. Also on the mattter of it being a tech school which has netsec and software engineering being their two main "show everyone this" careers. Their software doesn't support linux. The school doesn't even support it. That ecollege company only supports windows.  My first two horrible programming classes which i had to set through all used WINDOWS ONLY software. YET we're supposed to be a school of technology. Anyway now i'm rambling.

If a school has the internet, they should provide it for you so you can relax. If they filter out things like Online MMOs they're severaly hurting their potential students.

Originally posted by 133794m3r

Well didn't know that bill was coming up. I guess it's time to contact my senators. And set up a meeting with them. I'M NOT going to go for that kind of shit. This is that same old shit that was talked about on the chans for along time. You pay for the internet like cable. You get to "choose" which sites you go to. It's pretty much that b/c if they're like oh he's going to "www.site.com" we better make his speed go at .1Kb/s. But OH he's going to our home page. Let's make it up to 1.5Mb/s.

With that said, where i live there's "magically" no other isps that service my area except "hugesnet" which anyone who's ever used their service knows is byfar the biggest fraud ever. So there's nothing else that i can do. I have to sit here with my "1.5Mb/s" internet as they say it is. But in reality it's normally ~70KB/s to ~100KB/s for most of the day. But can i do anything? Nope, somehow Comcast, Cox, Verizon, AT&T and all of the others "magically" don't service my town. I find it great that they don't. Just plain old great. Right now i'm paying 40$ a month for "1.5Mb/s" internet. Which is slow 99% of the time. Buggy as hell and well isn't too reliable. If i had a choice i'd change it right away. I wish someone else would come out here and set up shop. That way my telephone company couldn't hold their horrible monopoly on this place. They'd make a killing. My friend out in CA tells me he gets 25Mb/s for 25$ a month. And that's unmetered. Also the EU jesus i wish i was over there right now. I'D LOVE to have that kind of network.

Currently i've been looking at server costs just out of curiosity. In the US you pay ~2x as much for a server that has bandwith restrictions as you do for one in the UK which has none. It's crazy and that's all i can say. It's byfar the most wild thing that i've ever seen.

As these ones like comcast and roadrunner attempt to put caps on it. It's completely pointless really. B/c it all balances out. It's COMPLETELY pointless.  90% of the people who get 512Kb/s+ net speed will only maybe download an attachment or two everyday. So they're barely using any bandwith at all. So those who use alot are balancing it out if not more. I HATE how the internet is in this area. When i was out in college before teh old person who ran the dorms left. That internet was amazing.  I swear we had a 100Mb/s connection in the dorms. I got ~25MB/s avg. dl speed on speedtest when he was there. It was amazing. Well he quit, then the school got someone new. Actually two people, everything went down hill. The net was down 50% of the time, and also it'd go down to insanely low speeds my ping in wow was over 700Ms 90% of thetime. It was redicolous. Alot of the first year students who were there for their two semesters or well one semester never came back. They said screw this we need our internet. Alot of the people who just go out and hang around said "oh just go into the commons". Yeah sure alot of people went in there but the point was we were paying for it. Until companies have broadband EVERYWHERE i mean every company should have service providing in EVERYPART of the us. Until they do it won't get anybetter.

 

Also one of the site managers should seriously fix these forums. They're not letting me use my firefox builtin spellchecker.

 

Should I contact my Congressman?

Congressmen have two ends,

The thinking end, and the sitting end.

Since his whole career depends upon his seat.

Why Bother , Friend.

 If you're shopping for a decent ISP (I don't think good ones exist) and don't mind dealing with a cable company WOW has great customer service, especially compared to TW in my area, a great connection and I haven't heard anything about limiting my bandwidth yet. This is around Columbus OH, though.

Originally posted by whisperwynd

Originally posted by Horusra

I hugged the internet....and now I have herpies 

Next time, try one of these...
 

 

If only it were that simple.

I kissed my internet goodbye earlier, when it was leaked the UK govts draconian new piracy plans.

Infrastructure should be a government responsibility to build and then private companies can charge for the use. Why? To ensure universal access and private choice of provider. Either of the extremes are worse than the middle.

It saddens me how CHEAP most of you get your internet for. 7 EUROS a month? What?!

Here in Canada it's extreme.

Currently, our only good ISP here, Rogers, charges us 69.99/month CAD. 25mbps download, 1mbps upload, and 125gb monthly cap. It's pathetic. I hit my cap all too often.

However, yay for the internets.

EDIT: I forgot to add something like 17% tax on that, as well as "access fees" of $8 a month.

Well Im glad I have charter I pay for 10meg up/down  So if they put a cap on me I will find another company. 

To bad for the guys stuck using comcast and cant find another option.  I am also glad I dont use at&t the worst company in the world.  Bad enough I got a phone via them, I can imagine having to use their dsl that I hear is really slow.

Originally posted by theanimedude

It saddens me how CHEAP most of you get your internet for. 7 EUROS a month? What?!

Here in Canada it's extreme.

Currently, our only good ISP here, Rogers, charges us 69.99/month CAD. 25mbps download, 1mbps upload, and 125gb monthly cap. It's pathetic. I hit my cap all too often.

However, yay for the internets.

EDIT: I forgot to add something like 17% tax on that, as well as "access fees" of $8 a month.

My friend in Quebec uses Axion, and it's about $50 or $60/mo with a 6mbps download and only an 80GB limit per month! That's right folks, you need to stand up and speak out about how you don't want your service metered. Don't just complain about it to your friends. You need to find out the proper places to send letters to your ISP and write them. Get your friends to write them, change service, organize petitions, whatever it takes.

Originally posted by erictlewis

Well Im glad I have charter I pay for 10meg up/down  So if they put a cap on me I will find another company. 

To bad for the guys stuck using comcast and cant find another option.  I am also glad I dont use at&t the worst company in the world.  Bad enough I got a phone via them, I can imagine having to use their dsl that I hear is really slow.

erictlewis, you may want to check with Charter because they were doing something with caps back in Feb of this year. Something like a 100GB cap for people at 15mbps and under, or 250GB cap for over 15mbps connections.

www.dslreports.com/faq/11027

Here in Montana the only provider we have charges $50+ for the slowest cable connection of 8mbs.  The internet is turning into something as used, and taken for granted, as electricity. I hope someday when my kids are using a globalized tera-bs connection i can laugh about this.

Edit:  The ISP is Bresnan

Originally posted by xS0u1zx

I find it hilarious how people act like such helpless morons when it comes to stuff like this.   The internet is not a "Privilege" you pay money for the shit, you get what you pay for simple.   If ISP's do something you don't like then complain, as for saying oh they don't listen.   Guess what they WILL listen if they're going broke because no one is buying their product.   People need to start thinking business and the money they put in for stuff, money runs the world so start acting like it.    You're as helpless as you make yourself simple....

While you are correct in theory, reality is quite another matter. Take Comcast(please...) for example. In all too many places they are pretty much the ONLY option for high speed broadband(I don't consider 1.5 meg DSL high speed...). Not only that, but cable companies have been suing towns/cities that decide to install their own optical networks(even when the cable companies refused to wire the towns up...).  They really don't care if people complain(have you ever had to deal with their so called tech support?...). From their perspective, if you want high speed broad band, they all too often are the only game in towm. So, where are the complainers going to go?