Anyone who thinks Dragon Age holds a candle to any of Biowares other games have rocks in their head.

Need a list...

Mass Effect > DOA

KOTOR 1 and 2 > DOA

Jade Empire > DOA

Neverwinter Nights > DOA

Baulder's Gate > DOA

hell even

Sonic Chronicles : The Dark Brotherhood > DOA

To add to this, its a nextgen console/pc title with graphics of Ps2 and xbox. Give me a break.....

PS : -> Tailz... I choose to play real games, like Demon's Soul, which is basically the opposite of what you just described me as, which I am sure you don't even own cause you prolly can't make it up the keep steps, but whatever. DOA is horrid, I still have faith in BioWare, and if you are going to quote someone, quote right, I didn't say DOA was the worst game ever made, I said DOA was the worst BIOWARE game ever made, which it is.

Originally posted by skydragonren

Anyone who thinks Dragon Age holds a candle to any of Biowares other games have rocks in their head.

Need a list...

Mass Effect > DOA

KOTOR 1 and 2 > DOA

Jade Empire > DOA

Neverwinter Nights > DOA

Baulder's Gate > DOA

 

hell even

Sonic Chronicles : The Dark Brotherhood > DOA

To add to this, its a nextgen console/pc title with graphics of Ps2 and xbox. Give me a break.....

PS : -> Tailz... I choose to play real games, like Demon's Soul, which is basically the opposite of what you just described me as, which I am sure you don't even own cause you prolly can't make it up the keep steps, but whatever. DOA is horrid, I still have faith in BioWare, and if you are going to quote someone, quote right, I didn't say DOA was the worst game ever made, I said DOA was the worst BIOWARE game ever made, which it is.

Oh no you didn't!

Ever hear of an opinion? Know the definition of it? What do the mass reviews compare DOA to those games mentioned? I want charts! I want stats! Links prove this! I played every game listed other than NWN series and I prefer DAO to all of them... Thats my opinion but since you state yours like fact I want statistics damnit! This is MMORPG.com I damand proof!

Originally posted by DevilXaphan

No matter what you haters or trolls say, Aion is still a viable, fun and healthy MMO population wise that will get better.

Go on and say that it has lots of gold spammers and bots, hell the bot population has dwindled some and the gold spam is pretty non existant at this time, few personal shop bots advertising but they get  booted after a few days too.

Spout your lies with these statsistics that most of us know are bull crap anyway, your just making yourselves look more foolish doing it.

You know when you put EVERYONE into "haters, trolls".. you should have just stopped talking there. The game has been out over 1year now and is NOT growing in leaps and bounds. Its getting less and less. And lmao what is this SERVER where bots, gold spam is "pretty non existent"? yes I can find it on the EMPTY servers so yeah lol bots are less and less there.

LOL your doing the SAME thing. Spouting things with no evidence what so ever.  But who cares.. you like the game then PLAY it. People love falling earth, EQ2, Lotro, War, Wow..

Saying DAO is worse then kotor. That's laughable since the story line itself is just like kotors which kotor was a screwed up ep4-6. Thus your saying Kotor is bad. It's no where near BG or PS:T but fine enough. Personally prefer Kotor 2. But none the less.

EP4 - 6: Lone farm boy goes off to meet a lone jedi, to give him a message. Jedi offers to train Luke and through the story you learn force is strong in you. Go off to train from the last and oldest jedi to recreate the order. Go to the deathstar where you face Vader(if your linear) who you redeem and save the republic.

Kotor 1: Lone nobody soldier who saves a damsel jedi in distress. Go off to the enclave and magically turns out to be strong in the force. Travel to random planets till you reach the Starforge to defeat your old padawan who(if your linear) you destroy to save the republic.

DAO: Some person who joins the Grey Wardens(Jedi) in an attempt to stop the blight(Sith). Through the course of your story your travel to random places till you reach your final destination(Arch Demon) which is destroyed and you save the area(or whatever).

Stories are just worse and worse knock offs of something already done.

Originally posted by Zeblade

Originally posted by DevilXaphan

No matter what you haters or trolls say, Aion is still a viable, fun and healthy MMO population wise that will get better.

Go on and say that it has lots of gold spammers and bots, hell the bot population has dwindled some and the gold spam is pretty non existant at this time, few personal shop bots advertising but they get  booted after a few days too.

Spout your lies with these statsistics that most of us know are bull crap anyway, your just making yourselves look more foolish doing it.

 

You know when you put EVERYONE into "haters, trolls".. you should have just stopped talking there. The game has been out over 1year now and is NOT growing in leaps and bounds. Its getting less and less. And lmao what is this SERVER where bots, gold spam is "pretty non existent"? yes I can find it on the EMPTY servers so yeah lol bots are less and less there.

LOL your doing the SAME thing. Spouting things with no evidence what so ever.  But who cares.. you like the game then PLAY it. People love falling earth, EQ2, Lotro, War, Wow..

Ok seems someone forgot their reading comprehension lessons. As i stated " the bot population has dwindled some and the gold spam is pretty non existent at this time".

Been playing across 4 servers on the NA side and both factions, so i have seen a decrease in the bot population on those four and have seen GM's doing their jobs.

And for those who just criticize the game because its not their thing, hey that's not a hater or troll, the haters and trolls are the ones that keep spouting the same old bull crap over and over.

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Originally posted by Shol
http://www.xfire.com/games/dragonage/Dragon_Age_Origins/
http://www.xfire.com/games/brderlands/Borderlands/
http://www.xfire.com/games/fallenearth/Fallen_Earth/

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DA:O a singleplayer RPG. And Borderlands is a FPS. Single-player games have no staying power, even the best of them. Most people play through the campaign once and leave. Even if some hardcore community stays it's not enough to keep the game in Top 10 on XFire. As for Borderlands, they timed the release poorly. Nobody can compete with MW2. No matter what, nobody can even hope to.
 

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Originally posted by skydragonren
DAO is probably the worst Bioware game ever produced by such a great company.

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Originally posted by DevilXaphan
No matter what you haters or trolls say, Aion is still a viable, fun and healthy MMO population wise that will get better.

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Originally posted by Tailz2k7
P.S. They were patching, troll...

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Originally posted by wowfan1996

 

 

 

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Originally posted by DevilXaphan
No matter what you haters or trolls say, Aion is still a viable, fun and healthy MMO population wise that will get better.

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OK, you're in denial, bro. But don't worry, it's a perfectly healthy and natural step towards accepting the inevitable.

 

 

 

Hey if you like the "Special Kool-Aid" that's being passed out then drink all you can, cause reality does bite pretty hard.

I think that MMORPG admins should add a special feature to Aion forums - namely a button that automatically posts "This game failed" message and closes the thread.

Would be really handy. ;-)

Originally posted by wowfan1996

I think that MMORPG admins should add a special feature to Aion forums - namely a button that automatically posts "This game failed" message and closes the thread.

Would be really handy. ;-)

The admins added a report button, which im using right now. Enjoy the ban lol

Originally posted by skydragonren

Anyone who thinks Dragon Age holds a candle to any of Biowares other games have rocks in their head.

To add to this, its a nextgen console/pc title with graphics of Ps2 and xbox. Give me a break.....

PS : -> Tailz... I choose to play real games, like Demon's Soul, which is basically the opposite of what you just described me as, which I am sure you don't even own cause you prolly can't make it up the keep steps, but whatever. DOA is horrid, I still have faith in BioWare, and if you are going to quote someone, quote right, I didn't say DOA was the worst game ever made, I said DOA was the worst BIOWARE game ever made, which it is.

So your opinion is fact eh? I completely 100% disagree with everything you said. The only rpg that I have played that thought was better than Dragon Age was Baldur's Gate 2. DA is superior to every other game out there. How about them apples.

Originally posted by wowfan1996

 

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Originally posted by Pelaaja
the game not being online yesterday ... ANd the game is under maintenance as I write this

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OMG. A massively multiplayer offline game? :-)

 

Listen. Seriously, Aion has been falling steadily for over a month now. Do you claim that the servers have been off-line all this time or what? If you don't, we're back to square one. And what will be your excuse next week? Because things will only get worse, mind you.

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Are you really getting some kicks from these conversations?

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Let me quote Fight Club:
"It's cheaper than a movie, and there's free coffee."

A pity that there's no free coffee on this board. But most fanboys are so incredibly dumb that the sheer fun kind of compensates for the inconvenience.

 

You're throwing this "fanboy" around like you invented it. It got old years ago. And stating someone dumb basing on the Internet conversation (in which, you haven't really contributed enough to call anyone "dumb").

I understand you're here "discussing" just to get the kicks and then watch the threads live their own lives. Fuel them a bit from time to time and then back to popcorns and soda. Well, good for you. Some call that trolling, but you may see it other way.

Although your cover has been blown many times already, let's try to conversate anyway.

You're right, Aion has been falling steadily in XFire. The decline in XFIre numbers is about 55%. What does that mean?

Speculation: There's quite a mass of people that think they are MMO-players, because they've played WoW.

In this context they start playing MMOs and get disappointed, because those MMOs are different from WoW (the reason I mentioned WoW isn't your nickname on the forums, but the assumption I have for this great mass of players). They normally return to WoW and think they are still MMO-players, but there's a portion of them that says goodbye to MMOs in general.

Then, my personal preference at the moment is Aion. Before, it was WAR and before it LoTRO (I don't really count that 2 week period at the launch of AoC playing it). I play these games for 1-2 years and move on. I also *hint* *hint* leave the forums of the games I don't play alone. Let the people that play those games discuss about their game there.

So, post whatever you want, where ever you want, but do try to consider if you're just brainfarting or really trying to reach out and interact with other people.

Originally posted by Frostbite05

Originally posted by Malifiss

Originally posted by LynxJSA

Originally posted by cyandk

All the games they have been developing has been infected with severe botting and goldspamming issues... Its almost as if they want to have them?

 

There's the same amount, if not more in other MMOs. It was a nightmare in L2 and that rep stuck. Notice how many times people say "all NCsoft MMOs have bot or RMT problems" as if there is an MMO that DOESN'T have them or if there was rampant botting in COx, GW, AA, TR, or Exteel. However, it was a big issue in L2, so it's a convenient torch and blanket statement to throw at Aion.  It's the nature of MMO gamers to get stuck in a period of time or specific thought and not break away from it. Another classic example of this is with multiple acounts and EVE. People say EVE's numbers are inflated because so many people have multiple accounts. It doesn't make a difference that they have absolutely no basis of comparison for such a statement and that the comment would mean every single MMO sub number is inflated by probably the same percentage. EVE offers specials for those that want a second account therefore they have more dual boxers than everyone else.

MMO gamers lock onto a talking point and will not let it go. The fact is that the more successful the MMO is, the more bots and spam you will have. You can't even log into PotBS without gold spam in chat in the newbie zones.

 

There was goldseller spam in the goddamn closed beta periods in Aion!!  Last time I logged in, you couldn't even see what people were saying because the gold spam in all the chat channels was causing too fast of a scroll.  Downplay it all you guys want, but don't you think people will figure it out if they believe the crap you guys spew, buy the game, then log in and witness all this garbage?

Seriously, i don't know if some of you guys are in denial or just flat-out lying.

 

Just proves you don't play log in and you won't see any spammers in trade. I've seen 1 in 2 weeks.

Friend of mine, currently playing, on Nezekan (or something like that) sent a petition to a GM earlier, because bots were swarming the vortexes he needed to harvest, and overrunning other quest areas, etc. It was happening as I was talking to him. He'd been dealing with it for several days already and is considering taking a break from the game until/if they get it fixed for real. He enjoys the game immensely, but the botting problem is making the experience of playing very unpleasant.

And this is coming from a guy who played Lineage 2 - a game notorious for its botting issues - for several years and isn't quick to complain about anything.

So.. yes... It's still a problem.

Not in a "I told you so" sort of way, but I said some time back that all the very public bannings and such were PR since the game was coming up on renewal after the first month and that, if NC stayed true to form, they'd disappear into the woodwork again within a week or two; that NCSoft had done the same exact routine before every major update in Lineage 2 for years. Well... voila.

Now, they've stated that they're hiring someone to help form an anti-RMT "task force" sort of team intended to seriously deal with it. If that's the case, and they're really serious, then perhaps things will turn around. Time will tell.

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Originally posted by Pelaaja
So, post whatever you want, where ever you want, but do try to consider if you're just brainfarting or really trying to reach out and interact with other people.

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Well. You seem to be one of a handful of persons here, who can actually listen, so I'll answer seriously.
 
1) About "fanboys". Admittedly I might have used the word a bit too often, but I've yet to see another game community that is so blindly optimistic. NCsoft spits on them, they think it's a blessing. NCsoft didn't do anything about bots in L2. That's 6 years of massive botting. Only now, after mass exodus of players from Aoin, the company "suddenly realized" the problem. But people here think it's alright.
 
2) About "MMOs are different from WoW". You'd have a point here, if Aion weren't a watered down, poorly implemented WoW clone itself. I absolutely love how Aion... err... faithful players ;-) are bashing at WoW. They can't even put 2 and 2 together and understand that without WoW this game would be something different (presumably a clone of something else). They need to learn to give credit where credit is due.

3) You can't really blame WoW players for disappointment they feel when they try other, less polished games. They're used to top quality content even while leveling. WotLK brought more variety to quests, but even in vanilla it wasn't mindless grind all the way to 60 (unless grind is what you like).

Last time I played WoW more than half a year ago and I don't think I'll return. WoW has undergone many changes that I personally dislike. But when I look even at its closest competitors I can only /sigh. How can the market swallow games that are SO poorly designed, games that lack in EVERY possible aspect? And how can people praise these games and their creators so blindly?

Originally posted by wowfan1996

 

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Originally posted by Pelaaja
So, post whatever you want, where ever you want, but do try to consider if you're just brainfarting or really trying to reach out and interact with other people.

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Well. You seem to be one of a handful of persons here, who can actually listen, so I'll answer seriously.

 

1) About "fanboys". Admittedly I might have used the word a bit too often, but I've yet to see another game community that is so blindly optimistic. NCsoft spits on them, they think it's a blessing. NCsoft didn't do anything about bots in L2. Only now, after mass exodus of players from Aoin, the company "suddenly realized" the problem. But people here think it's alright.

2) About "MMOs are different from WoW". You'd have a point here, if Aion weren't a watered down, poorly implemented WoW clone itself. I absolutely love how Aion... err... faithful players ;-) are bashing at WoW. They can't even put 2 and 2 together and understand that without WoW this game would be something different (presumably a clone of something else). They need to learn to give credit where credit is due.

3) You can't really blame WoW player for disappointment they feel whey they try other, less polished games. They're used to see top quality content even while leveling. WotLK brought more variety to quests, but even in vanilla it wasn't mindless grind all the way to 60 (unless grind is what you like).

Last time I played WoW more than half a year ago and I don't think I'll return. WoW has undergone many changes that I personally dislike. But when I look even at its closest competitors I can only /sigh. How can the market swallow games that are SO poorly designed, games that lack in EVERY possible aspect? And how can people praise these games and their creators so blindly?

I'm a WoW players and the only reason people from WoW don't like aion is because it doesn't hold your damn hand where ever you go. Same with other games. I'll fully admit that WoW players in general are like spoiled 8 yr olds in this respect.

as bad as you might feel for NCSoft (which is another way of saying  I hope that this game and very other game fails so WoW can be the only MMO left) Aion is a big success in Asia and will survive even if every single player in Europe and us leaves the game. So no matter how hard you want it to fail it will still be here next year

Would anyone be surprised to find out if NCSoft is behind the selling of gold in their own games to help generate cash?   It is a huge market and I wouldn't put it past them to be doing that,

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Originally posted by Frostbite05
I'm a WoW players and the only reason people from WoW don't like aion is because it doesn't hold your damn hand where ever you go. Same with other games.

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I'll fully admit that WoW players in general are like spoiled 8 yr olds in this respect.

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Originally posted by wowfan1996

 

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Originally posted by Frostbite05
I'm a WoW players and the only reason people from WoW don't like aion is because it doesn't hold your damn hand where ever you go. Same with other games.

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Your post only confirms you know nothing about WoW. Like most WoW haters you just repeat the same old nonsense.
 
WoW doesn't "hold your hand" any more than any other game. You don't have to do quests while leveling. Some people opt for AoE grind and some level through instances. You don't have to raid. Quite some people play pure PvP chars and hardly care about PvE.
So exactly where Aion gives you more opportunities?
 

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I'll fully admit that WoW players in general are like spoiled 8 yr olds in this respect.

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"Less bread! More taxes!" (c) Lewis Carroll
 
Indeed, why to love high quality games, when you can love low quality games? I can't argue with such an impenetrable logic. Less bread, more taxes, please.

 

I am gonna go ahead and guess that you don't own a copy of Aion am I right? You just posting here for the hell of it?