Vato26, you can still be Gay we are not stoping you from being gay.

we are just stoping our Tax money from going to pay for it.

we are stoping or not saying we think its a good thing that you are gay.

Marriage is - a legally recognized relationship, established by a civil or religious ceremony,

well one its not established by the people seeing that most of people in the US do not think its right.

yet most of the people in the US are ok with you being Gay. as long as we do not have to pay for it or support you in your action.

Originally posted by DeadDOG

Vato26, you can still be Gay we are not stoping you from being gay.

we are just stoping our Tax money from going to pay for it.

we are stoping or not saying we think its a good thing that you are gay.

Marriage is - a legally recognized relationship, established by a civil or religious ceremony,

well one its not established by the people seeing that most of people in the US do not think its right.

yet most of the people in the US are ok with you being Gay. as long as we do not have to pay for it or support you in your action.

 

So you also against any other type of marriage?

Originally posted by DeadDOG

yet most of the people in the US are ok with you being Gay. as long as we do not have to pay for it or support you in your action.

 

That about sums up my view on that. If you want to get mud on your helmet knock yourself out just don't take my dime to do it.

Next question do you every wonder why someone from Holland is so exicited about children not loving their country when it is not his?

The boy has every right not to say the pledge, and I am rather excited about the fact he had enough balls to stand up for what his parents believe in. Now if only we had enough Americans like this little boy to take true responsibility and stop leading us down this unsustainable path we are on.

Originally posted by Aetius73

Originally posted by DeadDOG

yet most of the people in the US are ok with you being Gay. as long as we do not have to pay for it or support you in your action.

 

 

That about sums up my view on that. If you want to get mud on your helmet knock yourself out just don't take my dime to do it.

Next question do you every wonder why someone from Holland is so exicited about children not loving their country when it is not his?

The boy has every right not to say the pledge, and I am rather excited about the fact he had enough balls to stand up for what his parents believe in. Now if only we had enough Americans like this little boy to take true responsibility and stop leading us down this unsustainable path we are on.

I think we should further analyze this.

Everyone, bring the tin foil hats. It's conspiracy time!

Originally posted by Gameloading

Originally posted by DeadDOG

Vato26, you can still be Gay we are not stoping you from being gay.

we are just stoping our Tax money from going to pay for it.

we are stoping or not saying we think its a good thing that you are gay.

Marriage is - a legally recognized relationship, established by a civil or religious ceremony,

well one its not established by the people seeing that most of people in the US do not think its right.

yet most of the people in the US are ok with you being Gay. as long as we do not have to pay for it or support you in your action.

 

 

So you also against any other type of marriage?

its the people of the state to make that choice.

Federal government should not be in evolved. My tax money paid to the federal government should not be used for things that are against my 1st amendment protected rights.

If a state wants to have a vote on if they want to support and pay for Gay marriage then let the state do that.
If the majority is for it. Then one can just move out of that state.

IF one can not support there family why are they asking we the Tax payer to do it?

Originally posted by DeadDOG

Originally posted by Gameloading

Originally posted by DeadDOG

Vato26, you can still be Gay we are not stoping you from being gay.

we are just stoping our Tax money from going to pay for it.

we are stoping or not saying we think its a good thing that you are gay.

Marriage is - a legally recognized relationship, established by a civil or religious ceremony,

well one its not established by the people seeing that most of people in the US do not think its right.

yet most of the people in the US are ok with you being Gay. as long as we do not have to pay for it or support you in your action.

 

 

So you also against any other type of marriage?

 

its the people of the state to make that choice.

Federal government should not be in evolved. My tax money paid to the federal government should not be used for things that are against my 1st amendment protected rights.

If a state wants to have a vote on if they want to support and pay for Gay marriage then let the state do that.
If the majority is for it. Then one can just move out of that state.

IF one can not support there family why are they asking we the Tax payer to do it?

So you're saying that it's alright for a majority to demand support from a minority, but not the other way around?

Also, you make it sound as if moving out of a state is so easy. It's not, people have lives there. Jobs, Homes, possibly family and friends.

IF one can not support there family why are they asking we the Tax payer to do it?
 

why force us to do something?

if you want to be Gay you have that Right. But YOU do not Have the RIGHT TO FORCE me to PAY FOR IT.

Originally posted by Gameloading

Originally posted by Aetius73

Originally posted by DeadDOG

yet most of the people in the US are ok with you being Gay. as long as we do not have to pay for it or support you in your action.

 

 

That about sums up my view on that. If you want to get mud on your helmet knock yourself out just don't take my dime to do it.

Next question do you every wonder why someone from Holland is so exicited about children not loving their country when it is not his?

The boy has every right not to say the pledge, and I am rather excited about the fact he had enough balls to stand up for what his parents believe in. Now if only we had enough Americans like this little boy to take true responsibility and stop leading us down this unsustainable path we are on.

 

I think we should further analyze this.

Everyone, bring the tin foil hats. It's conspiracy time!

Sound like struck a nerve.

Originally posted by Aetius73

Originally posted by Gameloading

Originally posted by Aetius73

Originally posted by DeadDOG

yet most of the people in the US are ok with you being Gay. as long as we do not have to pay for it or support you in your action.

 

 

That about sums up my view on that. If you want to get mud on your helmet knock yourself out just don't take my dime to do it.

Next question do you every wonder why someone from Holland is so exicited about children not loving their country when it is not his?

The boy has every right not to say the pledge, and I am rather excited about the fact he had enough balls to stand up for what his parents believe in. Now if only we had enough Americans like this little boy to take true responsibility and stop leading us down this unsustainable path we are on.

 

I think we should further analyze this.

Everyone, bring the tin foil hats. It's conspiracy time!

Sound like struck a nerve.

Yes that must be it. It couldn't possibly be that i was pointing out the utter ridiculousness of that part of your post.

At DeadDog: that's a fine position but you didn't answer the question.

If you don't want to pay for gay marriage, why should homosexuals and/or those against marriage in general be forced to pay for straigth marriages?

Originally posted by Gameloading

Originally posted by DeadDOG

Originally posted by Gameloading

Originally posted by DeadDOG

Vato26, you can still be Gay we are not stoping you from being gay.

we are just stoping our Tax money from going to pay for it.

we are stoping or not saying we think its a good thing that you are gay.

Marriage is - a legally recognized relationship, established by a civil or religious ceremony,

well one its not established by the people seeing that most of people in the US do not think its right.

yet most of the people in the US are ok with you being Gay. as long as we do not have to pay for it or support you in your action.

 

 

So you also against any other type of marriage?

 

its the people of the state to make that choice.

Federal government should not be in evolved. My tax money paid to the federal government should not be used for things that are against my 1st amendment protected rights.

If a state wants to have a vote on if they want to support and pay for Gay marriage then let the state do that.
If the majority is for it. Then one can just move out of that state.

IF one can not support there family why are they asking we the Tax payer to do it?

So you're saying that it's alright for a majority to demand support from a minority, but not the other way around?

Also, you make it sound as if moving out of a state is so easy. It's not, people have lives there. Jobs, Homes, possibly family and friends.

Majority, minority this are words deviding people in to groups.

you think of your self as the minority? are you rich and paying 80% of the taxes?

that would make your a minority paying for the majority, but you support that.

Originally posted by DeadDOG

Religious people most of them want you to have the Freedom to live your life as you want to live it.

seeing this is the way God wanted it. Free will and all.

Just because I am single and a heterosexual i am discriminated against,
because I do not get the benefits and protections of married people.

Who are you to tell us we are discriminating against you?
When you have the same Freedoms of a single straight Man. he can not marry another man.

Why do we give benefits to anyone anymore.
(it was because the man provided for his wife)
But now the woman also works.
Either take away the tax benefits from married people.
Or give them to all people, Married or single.
This will fix the problem of Benefits.
 

Marriage is not a title.
Marriage is a public accepted union.
This is why they ask if anyone here knows any reason why the 2 should not be married speak now.
In asking for us to accept your union you are getting our answer.

Asking Religious people to accept Homosexual marriage is asking them to Pay for something that is wrong and is against most religions and forces the Religious person to Disrespect their God and Religion.
This is a violation of there 1st amendment rights.

Religious people most of them want you to have the Freedom to live your life as you want to live it.
They just do not want to support you in how you live your life, when they believe it is the wrong way.

I'm a religious person.  And my church does not preach that homosexuality is wrong.  So why do you think it's okay for the federal government to say one religion is correct over another?

Originally posted by DeadDOG

Vato26, you can still be Gay we are not stoping you from being gay.

we are just stoping our Tax money from going to pay for it.

we are stoping or not saying we think its a good thing that you are gay.

Marriage is - a legally recognized relationship, established by a civil or religious ceremony,

well one its not established by the people seeing that most of people in the US do not think its right.

yet most of the people in the US are ok with you being Gay. as long as we do not have to pay for it or support you in your action.

 

My church performs gay marriages.  My church believes that we are doing so with God's blessing.

Now, about that federal government recognizing one religion over another thing...

Originally posted by DeadDOG

Vato26, you can still be Gay we are not stoping you from being gay.

Just more ASS-U-mptions on your part. I never stated I was homosexual, because I am not. However, you ASS-U-med I was. Apparently this is a common trend amongst the Religious Right... to ASS-U-me that everyone who is against homosexual marriages is automatically homosexual. It's called logic and there is no logical reason to disallow homosexuals the joy/anguish of marriage that heterosexual couples are allowed to experience. Please stop making ASS out of Ureself.

we are just stoping our Tax money from going to pay for it.

So, you are for heterosexual couples getting tax breaks for marriage, but not homosexuals? Yay double-standarded bigotry.

we are stoping or not saying we think its a good thing that you are gay.

That's good.  Because:

1. I am not a homosexual.  and...
2. We are not stopping (it's real spelling) you from U making an ASS out of yourself.  Which, U are doing a damn, fine job of it so far.

Marriage is - a legally recognized relationship, established by a civil or religious ceremony,

well one its not established by the people seeing that most of people in the US do not think its right.

Because they've been brainwashed by the "holy" book.  Luckily the older ones are keeling over to make way for the younger citizens who have open minds on the subject.  The younger individuals understand that there is no logical explanation as to why homosexuals should not be allowed to be married across the US.  The proof behind this is that the US had the first homosexual marriage during this decade and 10% of our states allow same-sex marriage.  Up from zero from a less than a decade ago.  Seems to me that things are changing in the US.

yet most of the people in the US are ok with you being Gay. as long as we do not have to pay for it or support you in your action.

More double-standarded bigotry and ASS-U-mptions.  I think U are taking making an ASS out of Urself to a whole new record.

Originally posted by DeadDOG

IF one can not support there family why are they asking we the Tax payer to do it?  This has NOTHING to do with the discussion of same-sex marriage.  Please STFU and get back on the real topic.
 

why force us to do something?  Who is forcing you to do what?  If you are referring to the tax breaks for married couples, then there is no reason why the homosexual community should be disallowed from the same tax breaks that heterosexuals are allowed.  However, individuals like yourself, argue against it.  That just makes you into double-standard bigots.

if you want to be Gay you have that Right. But YOU do not Have the RIGHT TO FORCE me to PAY FOR IT.  No one is forcing you to pay for anything.  Same-sex marriage forces you to pay nothing more than heterosexual marriages.  So, based on your argument, no marriages should be allowed as they apparently cost the whole US taxpayers money.  I think the tinfoil from your hat is retarding your mental processes.

Originally posted by upallnight

Originally posted by DeadDOG

Religious people most of them want you to have the Freedom to live your life as you want to live it.

seeing this is the way God wanted it. Free will and all.

Just because I am single and a heterosexual i am discriminated against,
because I do not get the benefits and protections of married people.

Who are you to tell us we are discriminating against you?
When you have the same Freedoms of a single straight Man. he can not marry another man.

Why do we give benefits to anyone anymore.
(it was because the man provided for his wife)
But now the woman also works.
Either take away the tax benefits from married people.
Or give them to all people, Married or single.
This will fix the problem of Benefits.
 

Marriage is not a title.
Marriage is a public accepted union.
This is why they ask if anyone here knows any reason why the 2 should not be married speak now.
In asking for us to accept your union you are getting our answer.

Asking Religious people to accept Homosexual marriage is asking them to Pay for something that is wrong and is against most religions and forces the Religious person to Disrespect their God and Religion.
This is a violation of there 1st amendment rights.

Religious people most of them want you to have the Freedom to live your life as you want to live it.
They just do not want to support you in how you live your life, when they believe it is the wrong way.

I'm a religious person.  And my church does not preach that homosexuality is wrong.  So why do you think it's okay for the federal government to say one religion is correct over another?

I have never said our Government said one religion is correct over another. but the people know what is correct.   a Gay person has the same rights as a single heterosexual. 
 

I am an American. And I do not feel our government should be forcing us to pay for anything that is against our 1st Amendment rights.

if you do not want to support or pay for marrage of a male and female. by all means put an end to it.

At this time with our deficit being so high. Its time our Government cut all of the spending it can.

a Gay person has the same rights as a single heterosexual.

 

Our founding fathers would be proud. Whether influenced by his parents or not, it takes balls to stand up to a teacher IN ARKANSAS of all places and stand up for what believe in. When i was 10, i could have never done this. Great respect for him.

Btw, for all you idiots that say he has to recite it, look up Minersville School District v. Gobitis

Originally posted by Vato26

Originally posted by DeadDOG

IF one can not support there family why are they asking we the Tax payer to do it?  This has NOTHING to do with the discussion of same-sex marriage.  Please STFU and get back on the real topic.
 

why force us to do something?  Who is forcing you to do what?  If you are referring to the tax breaks for married couples, then there is no reason why the homosexual community should be disallowed from the same tax breaks that heterosexuals are allowed.  However, individuals like yourself, argue against it.  That just makes you into double-standard bigots.

if you want to be Gay you have that Right. But YOU do not Have the RIGHT TO FORCE me to PAY FOR IT.  No one is forcing you to pay for anything.  Same-sex marriage forces you to pay nothing more than heterosexual marriages.  So, based on your argument, no marriages should be allowed as they apparently cost the whole US taxpayers money.  I think the tinfoil from your hat is retarding your mental processes.

 

look who is calling people name and such hate coming from such a person.

i have not forced you to pay for marriage. yet you attack me for this.

i told you that you can be Gay if you want to. yet you want to force me to say with my Voice and my Vote that i think what you are doing is right, when i do not agree with it.

you tell me to STFU when i try to show you why i disagree with supporting you.

see what happens when our government gives One hand out, everyone gets in line for it, everyone clames to be part of the group or not part of the group but should be part of the group.

I blame Obama! That rainbows and lollipops campaign he ran brought the gaywads out of the woodwork!

If this kids gay he'll be bagging tons of ass in 5 years. If he's not he won't get laid until he's 30. Either way Obama is to blame for his promiscuity or the lack thereof!

Smart freakin' kid. Questioning authority, too. Nice.

Originally posted by Briansho

Originally posted by Dekron

Originally posted by Briansho

Originally posted by Dekron

Originally posted by Gameloading

I'm glad to see this child is able to think for himself instead of becoming another blind patriot.

He is not thinking for himself. He was simply brainwashed with a differing ideology most likely from his parents.

 

I know! He should be removed from his parents, put in child protective services, and re-conditioned therapudically.

Quite an immature response.

My point was that no child thinks for himself. Children base their "values" upon their parents teachings.

 

You're right! This kids parents need to start bringing him to a nice church. He needs Jesus in his life to fully understand our pledge!

You seem to think I am all gung ho against this kid. I'm merely pointing out the obvious that it wasn't the kids decision, but his parents.

Grow up.