Originally posted by altairzq

I don't expect much from MO. This is the current situation:

1) official forums are dead since beta forums started. That means, only 10.000 people are following the game.

2) forumers from 2008 have disappeared and they looked so hyped. And I was the troll. I'm still in the forums and they just left. Wonder if they will keep the guys from 2009.

3) forumers love the combat in some medieval addon, I think for half-life2, I forgot the name. They announced it in the forums in several threads and said that the combat was so good and very similar to what MO should be.  I downloaded it and played it. It's just the worst combat ever. I mean.. worse than some flash games going around. But forumers love it. And they are the ones beta testing MO.

4) These beta testers have bought the game. They are the 10.000 most die-hard MO fanatics in the planet. So don't expect any rational and objective criticism from them. They will be extremely condescent to the developers, they will forgive all shortcomings. The few that will dissent will be acused of trolling and rejected.

So no I don't expect much from this situation.

I was just about to make a post along these lines but you've said it all. The one thing I will add is that the numerous youtube videos around make it clear this game has a long, long way to go before it is even playable, with basic features. The "MO is better than DF" fan-cry is still pure unadulterated optimism at this point.

And IMO, charging 90 bucks for a game in alpha is far, far more dishonest/dodgy than anything we have seen from Aventurine. And P.S. I am not a huge DF fan nor MO hater, I support both games and am just trying to be objective.

Originally posted by Polarisation
I'm not in the beta, so I have no clue of what I'm talking about and am just making speculations and trolling here.

Fixed for you.

Originally posted by The_Korrigan

Originally posted by Polarisation
I'm not in the beta, so I have no clue of what I'm talking about and am just making speculations and trolling here.

Fixed for you.

In the beta, and guess what your fix is totally wrong. Nice try fawnboi.

Originally posted by gnomad1

Originally posted by The_Korrigan

Originally posted by Polarisation
I'm not in the beta, so I have no clue of what I'm talking about and am just making speculations and trolling here.

Fixed for you.

In the beta, and guess what your fix is totally wrong. Nice try fawnboi.

Sure you are. And I am Bill Gates.

I actually like MO better then DF.
Been in beta since block A.  I've spent more time in this beta then I have in any released MMO in the past couple years.

Darkfall and Mortal Online are completely dif. games.
There is no comparing the two.
 

I'd like to point out.
The guys who are blasting MO as being bad,
Are Darkfall fans. 

Stop worrying.
MO isn't going to kill your game.
It's not even going to compete for the same audience.
People that prefer Darkfall are going to play Darkfall for the style of game it is. 

It's like trying to compare Shadowbane to UO. 
Not the same kind of games, and as much as Darkfall fans want to deny it, Shadowbane is exactly the kind of game AV intended to make.

Quite a number of the negative posters here seem to have a fair amount of posts in the Darkfall forums.

The game is moving along fairly well from the patch notes, and the forums still seem just as active as ever.

You are looking at about 1500 different accounts checking the forums a day, and roughly 4500 active forum accounts since the beginning of the month. If even a quarter of that number posted, I'd have difficulty keeping up.

Is that a terribly huge number? No, I've seen bigger, but I'm still debating on whether or not I've seen better.

Once more, for those of you who are really interested and looking for information, ignore this post and continue on into the MO forums or another topic here.

Originally posted by Fariic

I actually like MO better then DF.
Been in beta since block A.  I've spent more time in this beta then I have in any released MMO in the past couple years.

Darkfall and Mortal Online are completely dif. games.
There is no comparing the two.
 

I'd like to point out.
The guys who are blasting MO as being bad,
Are Darkfall fans. 

Stop worrying.
MO isn't going to kill your game.
It's not even going to compete for the same audience.
People that prefer Darkfall are going to play Darkfall for the style of game it is. 

It's like trying to compare Shadowbane to UO. 
Not the same kind of games, and as much as Darkfall fans want to deny it, Shadowbane is exactly the kind of game AV intended to make.

 

Not really.

The thing that ticks me off somewhat about MO is their fans stating unbelievable claims such as MO will be more of a sandbox than DF, and quite a few times reading that the community is sooo much better etc.

I read the patch notes and follow all the leaks and know from personal experience some people are just overhyping the game. The reason why the community is better is because its tight knit just like DF's was perhaps 3 years ago, before the imbeciles showed up. Once its released forget about it, same as DF

Regarding the stat loss with MO, thats not sandbox that's just an artificial barrier. I dont like being PKd but I think a real sandbox should not penalise anyone's actions like that, its a different playstile that should be allowed in a real sandbox. 

Originally posted by tensspotting

MO will be more of a sandbox than DF

 It already is.

I read the patch notes and follow all the leaks and know from personal experience some people are just overhyping the game. The reason why the community is better is because its tight knit just like DF's was perhaps 3 years ago, before the imbeciles showed up. Once its released forget about it, same as DF

So basically, you know nothing about the game.

Regarding the stat loss with MO, thats not sandbox that's just an artificial barrier. I dont like being PKd but I think a real sandbox should not penalise anyone's actions like that, its a different playstile that should be allowed in a real sandbox. 

A sandbox game favors all play styles, not only gankers and PKs. If you don't put limits, and make the life of an outlaw harsh and hard, the game will be filled with gankers just like the failure that is DF. The people who think sandbox = ganking noobs without restriction, without consequences, can stick to DF. It's the kind of population we don't want to see in MO anyway. We can live without the "zomg roflcopter pwned noob /spit /spit" type of kiddy console/FPS reject players.

 Fact is Darkfall fanbois don't like what the see in the MO patch notes, because the MO devs are adding everything they promised, and also everything DF was supposed to contain and which was ditched under the cover of Tasos's lies. They already know MO is gonna be a more complete sandbox game catering to more than just facerolling PKs, and that makes them feel insecure about their own game.

MO crushes DF on many aspects already, crafting, mounts, taming, housing, reputation/alignment/pvp consequences, and each MO patch crushes it even more. Because unlike Tasos, the MO devs aren't just words and bragging on internet sites: they really put what they say into their game.