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11/16/09 8:41:19 PM#61
The only game I really enjoy is elder scrolls bethseda all the way...every game released in between an elder scrolls game is just filler content :) ![]() |
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11/16/09 8:49:07 PM#62
Originally posted by Cognoman
First let me explain myself. Fallout 3 was a total steaming pile of junk. I installed that on my computer. Every time I tured around it would have erros with the game. The game contunually crashed. Even with the updated stuff that I downloaded through the patches. I hated the combat in this game especially the part added to zoom in on and focus on. The game was such a steaming pile of junk I never got out of the main megaton city where your suposed to put the detonator on the bomb. I don't know how you would say it resurected Fallout 1 or 2. Too bad that fallout 2 dont run on dx10 or I would still play it from time to time. Most fallout folks I know actually hatted Fallout 3. Gosh knows I did, it was buggy and probably one of the worst games I ever spent money on. To bad direct to drive does not give refunds. Lets just say I will never ever buy anything else made by them ever.
QFT. Fallout 3 sucks. Stupid story. Stats doesnt mean a thing. Not as edgy as Fallout 1 and 2. No child killing no sleeping with hookers, no gambling, no boxing champ, no martial arts champ, just stupid VATS . I hope Interplay keeps control of the fallout mmo franchise.
Hate to break it to you, but you won't get child killing from Interplay either. Bethesda didn't leave it out for no reason. Times are different now, and child killing in any game nowadays would only kill the game itself. Bioshock barely scraped by because they portrayed the sisters as more monster than human. And I guess you never went into Megaton, because you sure as hell can pay to sleep with hookers, it just doesn't show you screwing.
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JKnight1
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Joined: 1/14/07
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11/17/09 12:02:57 AM#63
Interplay no longer controls the Fallout license, so there is no hoping they can keep control of something they no longer have posession of. they were allowed, by Bethesda, to use the license to create an MMO, after Bethesda bought the license. Interplay has apparently failed to live up to the stipulations in the contract, and Bethesda has brought them to court for failing to meet the obligations set forth in said contract. Interplay is from a bygone era. They did great games. They were the forefathers of the PC RPG, along with Black Isle and Bioware. But times are changing, technology is changing. Games MUST change with those, or they fall into the void of games that could have been. I LOVED Fallout 1 and 2. But my favorite is Fallout 3. I felt MORE immersed in the wastes with the first person perspective, the action was intense, and it took a little more thought and skill to fight. A turn based, top-down, 3rd person RPG no longer works in this day and age. It's technology of an era past. Those who hate Bethesda, do because they feel cheated. Feel cheated of a style classic to the genre, but none complains when other games do that. Like Warcraft. It was an RTS. It changed into a hybrid RTS/RPG. Then it became a full blown MMO. And it became the most successful MMO in the industry. Fallout has done the same thing, in a way. It was a great game. It got better, and now, with the new era, changed to fit it, and has become one of the best RPG's. And to all those who say Fallout 3 is just an Oblivion reskinned, I challenge you to play each game as the other. Try playing Oblivion like Fallout 3. Try playing Fallout 3 like Oblivion. Do each one for 5 hours or more before switching, then come back and tell me they are the same. The keys are different, game style is different, the engine has been reworked. I tried it. I died. A lot. Trying to play each game as the other. Fallout 3 is not a reskinned game. It's a new game using a familiar engine with upgraded capabilities. MANY games use this. Look at ALL the games that use the Unreal Engine. If you wanna complain about sameness, go with that. Wait, but each game is fundementaly different from the other, even though the core may be the same. Shocker. Interplay needs to go the way of the ghost. They are old news. They did their great works. Now it's time for the new cats to do theirs.
EDIT: Let's also not forget the major fumbles and inconsistancies that were in Fallout 2. Oh, who was part of that? Interplay. Oh, Brotherhood of Steel? Interplay. Tactics? Laughable. Interplay. Those last two were so far off base from the original they could have been beasts all their own, with a different name, and no one would be none the wiser. |
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11/17/09 12:45:26 AM#64
Originally posted by Rednecksith
Thank God for that. Considering how badly they butchered the IP with Fallout 3, I'm glad they have nothing to do with this. At least, I hope not.
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11/17/09 12:48:34 AM#65
those alphas screens looks much better then your mainstream Fallout 3 crap, lets hope interplay will finish this, and show you and the idiots from Bethecrapsta what a reall Fallout game is. |
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JKnight1
Novice Member
Joined: 1/14/07
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11/17/09 12:49:27 AM#66
Originally posted by ioryadragon
this Interplay butchered their own IP pretty hard. Fallout 2 was a mess of inconsistant story telling, Brotherhood of Steel was a disaster, and only the main parts of Tactics are even considered semi-canon.
EDIT: The screenshots look like a terrible mix of an f2p MMO, WoW, and an inkling of Fallout. Fallout 3 was by far superior to many other RPG's. F1 and 2 were great games, don't get me wrong, but Fallout 3 was, to me, the best way to go for a post-apoc rpg. And the numbers, awards, sales, and constant opoularity and high ranking still now, says so. |
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11/17/09 12:53:22 AM#67
Funny how users with to much time so easily can hijack a thread about a mmo that most of us gamers look forward to in someway. But that is what you get when you use a open internet forum i guess- the not so brightest stars in the class must also have a place to gather. Hopefully they will give us better info about their game and not just a random picture now and then. |
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11/17/09 12:58:08 AM#68
Originally posted by astrob0y
Funny how someone who didn't even read the thread can complain about others. Interplay didn't give anyone any info. The "screenshots" were pulled off of the wiki. Until the lawsuit is concluded, they have no game.
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11/17/09 12:58:30 AM#69
Lets hope Interplay can finish and make this a quality mmo. We need more good mmos these days. |
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11/17/09 1:05:05 AM#70
Originally posted by Zorvan01
Funny how someone who didn't even read the thread can complain about others. Interplay didn't give anyone any info. The "screenshots" were pulled off of the wiki. Until the lawsuit is concluded, they have no game.
Funny that someone still believes in "leaked" pictures. We are all discussing this game as a game in progress at this thread and you have to start to complain about my use of words. Rather strange and random. Please dont try to be rude to a random internet user with this kind of crap in the future. It can hurt feelings and also make you look rather strange. And if you really need to answer this, please do so with a pm but I rather see no answer at all. Back to the topic |
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11/17/09 1:05:44 AM#71
Originally posted by metalhead980
How does it feel being one of the ten people on the entire planet that thinks Bethesda sucks?
Feels nothing special, as it's no biggie. It's called personal choice and taste. Finding oneself in the minority is something that can happen to anybody in this or that aspect of life, especially when it comes to taste in the arts, literature and games, so growing up you get used to it and take care not to make a big deal out of it. That's the healthy stance! :) Here are some other examples: I think Everquest was uninspired, too - yeah, I'm in the minority here. I think Wordsworth's poetry was pedestrian - in the minority. I thought Alice in Chains was a better band than Nirvana - again, minority. Hey, I don't like The Dark Knight at all and prefer Burton's Batman movies to Nolan's by far - yep, minority. I'm really fine with it. In the majority here, in the minority there, all's good. Whereas your post implies I must somehow be threatened or feel lonely, hmm? What, is the world filled with taste-zombies out to get the 10 of us or something? :) I also have a very good idea on why Bethesda's take on games leaves me cold, and believe me I can talk about it at length, but that'd just be derailing the thread. I just wanted to chime in to represent the minority - however small it may be, 10, or 10 thousand - that is not impressed with the way Bethesda handles gameplay and particularly the Fallout licence, and would rather see someone else take it on as an MMO project. To me, today's Interplay is an unknown quantity, whereas Bethesda is pretty much a known quantity that I've tried several times and am not too impressed with.
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11/17/09 1:08:34 AM#72
Originally posted by astrob0y
Funny that someone still believes in "leaked" pictures. We are all discussing this game as a game in progress at this thread and you have to start to complain about my use of words. Rather strange and random. Please dont try to be rude to a random internet user with this kind of crap in the future. It can hurt feelings and also make you look rather strange. And if you really need to answer this, please do so with a pm but I rather see no answer at all. Back to the topic I'd rather see my answer. If my response hurt your feelings, you have more important things to worry about. I'd suggest perhaps a break from forums is due until you are more readily able to withstand random verbage. Especially when you insult the members here but can't handle a smidgen of heat directed back at you.
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11/17/09 1:31:09 AM#73
Originally posted by Nikopol But in the same way Bethesda is rather unknown as a mmo maker and has the same experince as Interplay. And as someone told earlier many guys that made Fallout 1&2 is now working at Bethesda. |
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11/17/09 1:36:11 AM#74
Originally posted by astrob0y
Fixed.
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11/17/09 1:38:33 AM#75
Originally posted by ghettobooste
Seriously? Fallout 3 is only one the best games of all time. I suppose you could have hoped it was more like Dragon Age or the original Fallouts, but the game they made is freakin amazing!
I'd rather any company make a game over bethesa, Never seen a game dev break more than they fix with every patch. Fallout game of the year edition CTD's anytime I try it play it on my pc. I more than meet the req's and it worked fine before 1.7 |
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11/17/09 2:55:05 AM#76
I'm going to put this in the same box as Stargate Worlds I'm afraid. It's just one of those games you really really want but not even god himself will be able to bring this to the table. |
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11/17/09 4:09:53 AM#77
This must be the first or second time I have ever posted in my entire account age.
But I just felt so compelled to atleast , get accross some important facts about Bethesda and their version of the Fallout IP. If you like the game or not, even if you think they "butchered" the IP, they brought millions of more fans towards the Fallout IP, meaning, nearly 70% of gamers will be looking at the next Fallout game to be released. This release will probably be one of the IPs most important releases, determining, which ever game developers continued future in working with the IP
Suffice to say, if the next game doesn't live up to the status of Fallout 3, then it will just be a game, purchased and played by a many classic fallout fans. I simply can't see the game sitting in the middle. (oh and last rant) I can't believe Obsidian entertainment are making a Fallout game, I think game developers hand it to them when the cba dealing with it whilst they make a better one. Obsidian entertainment is like the thalidomide cousin of game developers.
(I used the term IP far too much in this post, lol) |
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11/17/09 8:18:05 AM#78
Originally posted by Wintersbite Don't even PUT it in that box! They have the funding and have the development team thanks to Masthead Studio being a joint partner in this game. Guys graphics that worked in FO3 WILL NOT WORK IN AN MMORPG! They are just too advance and will instantly crash any computer out there when their is a huge pvp battle. So, they have to go for a less low key graphics. STFU up FO3, nothing special about it at all and any idiot who is foolish enough to say it was not close to elder scrolls really need to re-evaluate. It was very close to elder scrolls. I would not have been suprised if they based their mechanics off of elder scrolls. It neither killed nor enhanced the FO franchise. The only reason it is still talked about to this day is because of this game right here. This FOOL is the reason it is still being brought up.
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11/17/09 9:03:00 AM#79
A big IP, the devs trying to please everyone... haven't we seen this few times already? What we get is sugarcoated themepark that offers the usual bells and whistles with a post-nuke paint. Doesn't matter which company makes it, they'll go for the big money and end up as usual.
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11/17/09 9:07:59 AM#80
Originally posted by busdriver The Earthrise engine is anything but themepark. It is closer to a sandbox engine however I am sure they can change it into that of a themepark. |
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