Originally posted by phrank

Originally posted by Tetters

 How many MMORPG players use Xfire? When we know that we can start making sense of Xfire numbers.

Once we know that we need to know how many PVP MMORPG players use Xfire ... you see where I am going with this?

It could be that only 100 PVP MMORPG players use Xfire, which would indicate DF being healthy .... then again,millions could, which would support your thread.

The reality is Xfire really isn't a valid tool to quote a single number on, it can only show trends at best, and then  only trends among Xfire users.

Interestingly, not one responder to this thread uses Xfire ...

And before the OP accuses me of it, I don't play DF, I have never done so, nor would I, its just not my type of game. The only way to judge a games population is to play it ... the players here seem to think its ok.

 

Okay here is your trend since you mentioned it.....

Back when the other thread was posted (August) there were 191 Xfire users for DnF

Today there are 75.

Yep shows the trend as you stated in your own words above.

I totally agree, it looks as though DF has lost over 50% of the Xfire users. But what percentage of the player base uses Xfire? If the general player base has dropped by the same percentage then it doesn't look great overall

Originally posted by Tetters

Originally posted by phrank

Originally posted by Tetters

 How many MMORPG players use Xfire? When we know that we can start making sense of Xfire numbers.

Once we know that we need to know how many PVP MMORPG players use Xfire ... you see where I am going with this?

It could be that only 100 PVP MMORPG players use Xfire, which would indicate DF being healthy .... then again,millions could, which would support your thread.

The reality is Xfire really isn't a valid tool to quote a single number on, it can only show trends at best, and then  only trends among Xfire users.

Interestingly, not one responder to this thread uses Xfire ...

And before the OP accuses me of it, I don't play DF, I have never done so, nor would I, its just not my type of game. The only way to judge a games population is to play it ... the players here seem to think its ok.

 

Okay here is your trend since you mentioned it.....

Back when the other thread was posted (August) there were 191 Xfire users for DnF

Today there are 75.

Yep shows the trend as you stated in your own words above.

I totally agree, it looks as though DF has lost over 50% of the Xfire users. But what percentage of the player base uses Xfire? If the general player base has dropped by the same percentage then it doesn't look great overall

Xfire makes my ping go up by 10 and drops my FPS by 20 (45ish-25ish). Xfire makes darkfall unplayable in PvP for me. I'm sure many others have the same "problem"

Originally posted by MrBoots

You don't need xfire to tell you that darkfall's population has decreased significantly.  Just look at their forums and irc chat. A few months ago there were dozens of new topics started in their sever politics forums daily. Now there's maybe 3 - 4 new topics on a good day. Their irc channel had hundreds of people chatting a few months ago, and thousands were chatting back at euro release. Now there are around 50 people there.

 

I think it's safe to say that a lot of people are gone. I'm guessing that the game might have about 2000 - 3000 active subscriptions. They probably have around 1000 players logged in during prime time on a week day.

How dare you post evidence Sir !

Seriously, anyone with half a brain cell knows  people left this game in droves and it was not just 'carebears'. Sadly any evidence of these losses cannot be accepted by the four or five zealous fanbotsa that inhabit these boards. DF and AV are probably one of the worst releases of MMORPG history. The only sad thing in all of this is that AV has ceased the silly behaviour and nothing amusing is emerging. Minus everyone that was laughing on the sideline and you have *few* people giving a damn about this game.

When a company behaves like Av have... what else is to be expected?

Originally posted by tombear81

Originally posted by MrBoots

You don't need xfire to tell you that darkfall's population has decreased significantly.  Just look at their forums and irc chat. A few months ago there were dozens of new topics started in their sever politics forums daily. Now there's maybe 3 - 4 new topics on a good day. Their irc channel had hundreds of people chatting a few months ago, and thousands were chatting back at euro release. Now there are around 50 people there.

 

I think it's safe to say that a lot of people are gone. I'm guessing that the game might have about 2000 - 3000 active subscriptions. They probably have around 1000 players logged in during prime time on a week day.

 

How dare you post evidence Sir !

Seriously, anyone with half a brain cell knows  people left this game in droves and it was not just 'carebears'. Sadly any evidence of these losses cannot be accepted by the four or five zealous fanbotsa that inhabit these boards. DF and AV are probably one of the worst releases of MMORPG history. The only sad thing in all of this is that AV has ceased the silly behaviour and nothing amusing is emerging. Minus everyone that was laughing on the sideline and you have *few* people giving a damn about this game.

When a company behaves like Av have... what else is to be expected?

at the risk of sound fanbotish, how has av acted exactly?

Originally posted by krieblood

I laughed out loud. Darkfalls massively dead "by design".

XFIRE Score of Fail

 

78 people Woot thats the population that still plays Battlefield 2 modern combat for xbox 360.

 

My Clan has 40-50 active members and 4 of use X-Fire, mainly because during sieges and pvp xfire in game client can cause serious Frame problems. Stop judging the games popularity by an unknown statistic that probably displays 1/1000 of the userbase.

Originally posted by xpiher

Originally posted by tombear81

Originally posted by MrBoots

You don't need xfire to tell you that darkfall's population has decreased significantly.  Just look at their forums and irc chat. A few months ago there were dozens of new topics started in their sever politics forums daily. Now there's maybe 3 - 4 new topics on a good day. Their irc channel had hundreds of people chatting a few months ago, and thousands were chatting back at euro release. Now there are around 50 people there.

 

I think it's safe to say that a lot of people are gone. I'm guessing that the game might have about 2000 - 3000 active subscriptions. They probably have around 1000 players logged in during prime time on a week day.

 

How dare you post evidence Sir !

Seriously, anyone with half a brain cell knows  people left this game in droves and it was not just 'carebears'. Sadly any evidence of these losses cannot be accepted by the four or five zealous fanbotsa that inhabit these boards. DF and AV are probably one of the worst releases of MMORPG history. The only sad thing in all of this is that AV has ceased the silly behaviour and nothing amusing is emerging. Minus everyone that was laughing on the sideline and you have *few* people giving a damn about this game.

When a company behaves like Av have... what else is to be expected?

at the risk of sound fanbotish, how has av acted exactly?

Oh please, are you really that dense?? or just a major league troll??

Originally posted by MrBoots

You don't need xfire to tell you that darkfall's population has decreased significantly.  Just look at their forums and irc chat. A few months ago there were dozens of new topics started in their sever politics forums daily. Now there's maybe 3 - 4 new topics on a good day. Their irc channel had hundreds of people chatting a few months ago, and thousands were chatting back at euro release. Now there are around 50 people there.

 

I think it's safe to say that a lot of people are gone. I'm guessing that the game might have about 2000 - 3000 active subscriptions. They probably have around 1000 players logged in during prime time on a week day.

I like the way you think, but regardless, you're wrong.  I pvp quite a bit, travelling from hotspot to hotspot and player city to player city, and there have to be many more people than 1k actives on at prime time on the NA server alone.  Unless the 75% of hotspots/player cities I don't normally visit on my routes are totally dead, there are probably at least 3k active during primetime on the NA server.

Active subs... no clue.  At least 10k?  One thing to keep in mind is that there is likely a much smaller contingent of casual players playing darkfall than other games, so the old 10:1 / subs:actives rule most likely doesn't apply.

Originally posted by phrank

Originally posted by xpiher

Originally posted by tombear81

Originally posted by MrBoots

You don't need xfire to tell you that darkfall's population has decreased significantly.  Just look at their forums and irc chat. A few months ago there were dozens of new topics started in their sever politics forums daily. Now there's maybe 3 - 4 new topics on a good day. Their irc channel had hundreds of people chatting a few months ago, and thousands were chatting back at euro release. Now there are around 50 people there.

 

I think it's safe to say that a lot of people are gone. I'm guessing that the game might have about 2000 - 3000 active subscriptions. They probably have around 1000 players logged in during prime time on a week day.

 

How dare you post evidence Sir !

Seriously, anyone with half a brain cell knows  people left this game in droves and it was not just 'carebears'. Sadly any evidence of these losses cannot be accepted by the four or five zealous fanbotsa that inhabit these boards. DF and AV are probably one of the worst releases of MMORPG history. The only sad thing in all of this is that AV has ceased the silly behaviour and nothing amusing is emerging. Minus everyone that was laughing on the sideline and you have *few* people giving a damn about this game.

When a company behaves like Av have... what else is to be expected?

at the risk of sound fanbotish, how has av acted exactly?

 

Oh please, are you really that dense?? or just a major league troll??

Some still try to claim AV is a scam company. I want to know what his opinon is.

On Oct 19th:

DarkFall:

#180 up from #199 yesterday
Highest: #49 on 2009-03-18

Xfire users playing per day
83
Minutes played per day
44,769

World of Warcraft:

#1 no change for 1480 days
Highest: #1 on 2009-10-18

Xfire users playing per day
65,156
Minutes played per day
21,927,902

So, if 11.5 million players play WoW, then 11,500,000 divided by 65,156 = 176. That means for each player that uses Xfire, there are 176 players that don't.

Now, take those 176 and multiply by 83 = 14608. That is a rough estimate of players that are playing the game right now.

IMO, that ain't that bad at all. Im actually surprised by these numbers.

Originally posted by jimmyman99

So, if 11.5 million players play WoW, then 11,500,000 divided by 65,156 = 176. That means for each player that uses Xfire, there are 176 players that don't.

Now, take those 176 and multiply by 83 = 14608. That is a rough estimate of players that are playing the game right now.

IMO, that ain't that bad at all. Im actually surprised by these numbers.

I commend this effort, however... this assumes that the same type of gamers play WoW that play DF.  Of course we know this is not the case.  And so as a percentage of overall players I think it's safe to assume that less WoW players use XFire than DF players.  Heck, most WoW players have never heard of XFire (I mean no insult to WoW players at all.  I personally don't use XFire either).   So, in conclusion I think that 14608 number is a bit high.  I'd guess <10k DF players.

Originally posted by indiramourn

 

I commend this effort, however... this assumes that the same type of gamers play WoW that play DF.  Of course we know this is not the case.  And so as a percentage of overall players I think it's safe to assume that less WoW players use XFire than DF players.  Heck, most WoW players have never heard of XFire (I mean no insult to WoW players at all.  I personally don't use XFire either).   So, in conclusion I think that 14608 number is a bit high.  I'd guess <10k DF players.

Why continue guessing when there is no way to know with any true accuracy?

This seems pointless to me.

Why resurrect this old thread ya smelly old troll?

Originally posted by Cecropia

Why resurrect this old thread ya smelly old troll?

Big fan of the Necromancer idea.

You didnt have to reply and it would have just died and went away so your only fueling the fire Sir.

Originally posted by Cecropia

Why resurrect this old thread ya smelly old troll?

think before you reply, dumbass.

Originally posted by Simiel

Originally posted by Cecropia

Why resurrect this old thread ya smelly old troll?

 

think before you reply, dumbass.

Thanks dad but I'll reply wherever I want too.

Originally posted by Cecropia

Originally posted by Simiel

Originally posted by Cecropia

Why resurrect this old thread ya smelly old troll?

 

think before you reply, dumbass.

 

Thanks dad but I'll reply wherever I want too.

yea, just telling you to think, stupid child.

Who the hell use X-fire anyway? I have it installed in my com, but i never touched it once. I installed it because when i had to install a game(forget the name) They told me if i wanted to install x-fire. I said yes and i never touched it once.

Someone post something saying that only 10k or 20k wow players use x-fire. Wow is like the most popular game with 11million subs. DF got from 10k subs to 30k and only 70 players use x-fire. So i ask again, who the fuck use x-fire? That thread is useless and x-fire dont count as a faq for the number of players that currently play a game.