Originally posted by Leucent

If I didn t feel like I was on a one way track in Aion, I might enjoy it. If I didn t feel like I was in a box while on those tracks I might enjoy it. If I didn t feel like I was in a kiddy land while I was playing it I might enjoy it. I could go on and on, but to me Aion was one of the worst experiences I ve had in a MMO in years. I didn t even get into the Major issues of the game. If I spend $50 on a game and in a week or 2 don t want to log in, I don t really care for the loss, as it was my poor judgement and want for a new MMO experience. I will not buy another MMO till I ve tried it or know people that have and I can trust their judgement. Well until FFXIV comes out that is.

Coming from the guy who complains there's no quests but won't walk 50 steps outside a town to get more?

Originally posted by Xasapis

Depends on the way you play and how much content you're willing to skip. In LOTRO's case I've been playing for about 8 months and haven't reached max level yet. The thing is, I didn't care about the levelling part, all I wanted was to experience the world. So I was content at doing grey quest chain lines for the sake of following the storytelling.

I'm partially doing the same thing with Aion. At this point in time I'll take a big break in order to experience Dragon Age Origin. I did the same with Risen. I'm in no hurry and I still find the pace tolerable. As I said, it's up to the individual, their priorities and the way they game.

Exactly, these folks claiming Aion is a grind is almost laughable...go play WoW or LOTRO if you want to level quick and easy, going braindead in the process.

blah..blah..blah..dont people have better things to do then whine about a video game they don't enjoy? lol

Originally posted by Toquio3

It just feels to me that the people that hate on games in these forums are trying real hard to convince the people that like them into hating them too. Ok, you dont like Aion, we get it. Is it really that important to shove your feelings in people's faces? Is it really that important to you to try and make us think "hmm hes right the game is shit, im quitting"? people will play whatever they like, and there is nothing you can do about it. Flaming games you dont play is just childish. you dont like it, dont play it and move on.

its just pathetic imo.

Yup, you would think that these peeps play video games way too much and likely have no social life...thats just a guess though.

Just like in the WoW forum, all of the incessant trolling and hating indicates a decent MMO. There is no problem finding a group for me, no problem finding a fight in PvP, and no problem finding quests or something to do up until level 30 so far. I am guessing there will still be plenty to do later on as well. The training wheels come off after 25 and you can go to many places in the Abyss, enemy territory, and your own territory. I would only criticize that level 25 is too long of a wait to get into fortress battles and other objectives.

Other than that I would say this is a decent game. I would hardly call this game a grinder and you can level fairly quickly. More and more people are reaching cap after just two months, however some people are skipping quests which not only makes you lose out on titles, but also other quests for valuable items. The servers in NA are strong and populated, even after free month time is up.

I am not sure how it will fare against TOR or FFXIV next year however.

Originally posted by mrbbman

Just like in the WoW forum, all of the incessant trolling and hating indicates a decent MMO. There is no problem finding a group for me, no problem finding a fight in PvP, and no problem finding quests or something to do up until level 30 so far. I am guessing there will still be plenty to do later on as well. The training wheels come off after 25 and you can go to many places in the Abyss, enemy territory, and your own territory. I would only criticize that level 25 is too long of a wait to get into fortress battles and other objectives.

Other than that I would say this is a decent game. I would hardly call this game a grinder and you can level fairly quickly. More and more people are reaching cap after just two months, however some people are skipping quests which not only makes you lose out on titles, but also other quests for valuable items. The servers in NA are strong and populated, even after free month time is up.

I am not sure how it will fare against TOR or FFXIV next year however.

My feelings as well - and I agree.. they really should open up the abyss/PVP at lvl 20.. it would make so much of a difference.

The biggest boring/grinding part so far for me was lvl 20-22. Quests weren't accessable and I had to grind about half a level in order to get access to the quests I needed. Since then though - I haven't looked back and my quest log is full

I agree with everything else said tho :) Including the last line... time will surely tell

Originally posted by Cammy

Originally posted by Leucent

If I didn t feel like I was on a one way track in Aion, I might enjoy it. If I didn t feel like I was in a box while on those tracks I might enjoy it. If I didn t feel like I was in a kiddy land while I was playing it I might enjoy it. I could go on and on, but to me Aion was one of the worst experiences I ve had in a MMO in years. I didn t even get into the Major issues of the game. If I spend $50 on a game and in a week or 2 don t want to log in, I don t really care for the loss, as it was my poor judgement and want for a new MMO experience. I will not buy another MMO till I ve tried it or know people that have and I can trust their judgement. Well until FFXIV comes out that is.

 

Coming from the guy who complains there's no quests but won't walk 50 steps outside a town to get more?

 

 

There is a lack of quests yes. I could walk 50 steps outside a town to get more, yes, but the game didn t do it for me so why should I continue to play it. What I said is how I feel, if you don t like it, ignore it. What you have to understand is, because you like the game doesn t mean I and many more wont. The bottom line is the game was a big waste of time for alot of people and they re upset they wasted their time and money. The game is shallow, and boring. That is my opinion and it isn t going to change, unless something magical happens.

Aion is more hardcore than some people are used to, but it isn't a grinder.

Almost all of the content past 35 is group content. People who pretend group content doesn't exist will have to grind. People who find groups and play together will end up like me, level 47 (two bars to 48) without ever 'grinding' a single damn mob.

Servers are full at peak times, game is full and alive, and most of my complaints about the game are incredibly minor (and even then many are being addressed already). CS is being improved, bots are getting banned (I wish they would get banned faster, but it's incredibly satisfying seeing them disappear all the same), solo quests past 35 are getting an experience boost to make them line up more with the increased experience demand (you'll still have to group some to level -- deal with it -- if you don't like that Aion isn't for you), gold spam is nearly nonexistant (now they just set up shops in major hubs advertising their websites, which I can happily note get banned daily) and the client crash is being addressed.

In short, I'm sick of seeing the horseshit constantly posted on these forums about this game by people who haven't got a clue.

Aion keeps succeeding.

You mad?

Originally posted by Leucent

Originally posted by Cammy

Originally posted by Leucent

If I didn t feel like I was on a one way track in Aion, I might enjoy it. If I didn t feel like I was in a box while on those tracks I might enjoy it. If I didn t feel like I was in a kiddy land while I was playing it I might enjoy it. I could go on and on, but to me Aion was one of the worst experiences I ve had in a MMO in years. I didn t even get into the Major issues of the game. If I spend $50 on a game and in a week or 2 don t want to log in, I don t really care for the loss, as it was my poor judgement and want for a new MMO experience. I will not buy another MMO till I ve tried it or know people that have and I can trust their judgement. Well until FFXIV comes out that is.

 

Coming from the guy who complains there's no quests but won't walk 50 steps outside a town to get more?

 

 

 

There is a lack of quests yes. I could walk 50 steps outside a town to get more, yes, but the game didn t do it for me so why should I continue to play it. What I said is how I feel, if you don t like it, ignore it. What you have to understand is, because you like the game doesn t mean I and many more wont. The bottom line is the game was a big waste of time for alot of people and they re upset they wasted their time and money. The game is shallow, and boring. That is my opinion and it isn t going to change, unless something magical happens.

At least you put "in your opinion" as for sure.. Aion isn't for everyone...

but dont say its linear when there are plenty of quests - especially 1-30... from 35+ it gets pretty rough.. but that's not what we are talking about :)

Originally posted by Tykero

Aion is more hardcore than some people are used to, but it isn't a grinder.

 

Almost all of the content past 35 is group content. People who pretend group content doesn't exist will have to grind. People who find groups and play together will end up like me, level 47 (two bars to 48) without ever 'grinding' a single damn mob.

 

Servers are full at peak times, game is full and alive, and most of my complaints about the game are incredibly minor (and even then many are being addressed already). CS is being improved, bots are getting banned (I wish they would get banned faster, but it's incredibly satisfying seeing them disappear all the same), solo quests past 35 are getting an experience boost to make them line up more with the increased experience demand (you'll still have to group some to level -- deal with it -- if you don't like that Aion isn't for you), gold spam is nearly nonexistant (now they just set up shops in major hubs advertising their websites, which I can happily note get banned daily) and the client crash is being addressed.

 

In short, I'm sick of seeing the horseshit constantly posted on these forums about this game by people who haven't got a clue.

 

Aion keeps succeeding.

You mad?

Tykero - I <3 you. Haven't seen you post before but a very welcomed post indeed

Just beware... many will flame you for this - and ask for your Char link to "prove" you are the level you say (when sadly most of them haven't even level'ed past 15)... just giving fair warning - the MMORPG community is not very happy when things don't go their way and the game isn't 100% the way THEY expected it to be.

Originally posted by Cammy

Originally posted by Leucent

Originally posted by Cammy

Originally posted by Leucent

If I didn t feel like I was on a one way track in Aion, I might enjoy it. If I didn t feel like I was in a box while on those tracks I might enjoy it. If I didn t feel like I was in a kiddy land while I was playing it I might enjoy it. I could go on and on, but to me Aion was one of the worst experiences I ve had in a MMO in years. I didn t even get into the Major issues of the game. If I spend $50 on a game and in a week or 2 don t want to log in, I don t really care for the loss, as it was my poor judgement and want for a new MMO experience. I will not buy another MMO till I ve tried it or know people that have and I can trust their judgement. Well until FFXIV comes out that is.

 

Coming from the guy who complains there's no quests but won't walk 50 steps outside a town to get more?

 

 

 

There is a lack of quests yes. I could walk 50 steps outside a town to get more, yes, but the game didn t do it for me so why should I continue to play it. What I said is how I feel, if you don t like it, ignore it. What you have to understand is, because you like the game doesn t mean I and many more wont. The bottom line is the game was a big waste of time for alot of people and they re upset they wasted their time and money. The game is shallow, and boring. That is my opinion and it isn t going to change, unless something magical happens.

 

At least you put "in your opinion" as for sure.. Aion isn't for everyone...

but dont say its linear when there are plenty of quests - especially 1-30... from 35+ it gets pretty rough.. but that's not what we are talking about :)

 

I think the term 'linear' comes from the fact there is one and only one path to level in Aion.  The quests and locations where you leveled for your 1st character will be the exact same way you level your 4th character. 

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Originally posted by Cammy

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Originally posted by mrbbman

Just like in the WoW forum, all of the incessant trolling and hating indicates a decent MMO. There is no problem finding a group for me, no problem finding a fight in PvP, and no problem finding quests or something to do up until level 30 so far. I am guessing there will still be plenty to do later on as well. The training wheels come off after 25 and you can go to many places in the Abyss, enemy territory, and your own territory. I would only criticize that level 25 is too long of a wait to get into fortress battles and other objectives.
Other than that I would say this is a decent game. I would hardly call this game a grinder and you can level fairly quickly. More and more people are reaching cap after just two months, however some people are skipping quests which not only makes you lose out on titles, but also other quests for valuable items. The servers in NA are strong and populated, even after free month time is up.
I am not sure how it will fare against TOR or FFXIV next year however.

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My feelings as well - and I agree.. they really should open up the abyss/PVP at lvl 20.. it would make so much of a difference.
 
The biggest boring/grinding part so far for me was lvl 20-22. Quests weren't accessable and I had to grind about half a level in order to get access to the quests I needed. Since then though - I haven't looked back and my quest log is full
 
I agree with everything else said tho :) Including the last line... time will surely tell

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Interesting I hit a "level into the quest" gap at 17-18. I guess it just depends on where you quest and such.

Originally posted by tanoril

Originally posted by Cammy

Originally posted by Leucent

Originally posted by Cammy

Originally posted by Leucent

If I didn t feel like I was on a one way track in Aion, I might enjoy it. If I didn t feel like I was in a box while on those tracks I might enjoy it. If I didn t feel like I was in a kiddy land while I was playing it I might enjoy it. I could go on and on, but to me Aion was one of the worst experiences I ve had in a MMO in years. I didn t even get into the Major issues of the game. If I spend $50 on a game and in a week or 2 don t want to log in, I don t really care for the loss, as it was my poor judgement and want for a new MMO experience. I will not buy another MMO till I ve tried it or know people that have and I can trust their judgement. Well until FFXIV comes out that is.

 

Coming from the guy who complains there's no quests but won't walk 50 steps outside a town to get more?

 

 

 

There is a lack of quests yes. I could walk 50 steps outside a town to get more, yes, but the game didn t do it for me so why should I continue to play it. What I said is how I feel, if you don t like it, ignore it. What you have to understand is, because you like the game doesn t mean I and many more wont. The bottom line is the game was a big waste of time for alot of people and they re upset they wasted their time and money. The game is shallow, and boring. That is my opinion and it isn t going to change, unless something magical happens.

 

At least you put "in your opinion" as for sure.. Aion isn't for everyone...

but dont say its linear when there are plenty of quests - especially 1-30... from 35+ it gets pretty rough.. but that's not what we are talking about :)

 

 

I think the term 'linear' comes from the fact there is one and only one path to level in Aion.  The quests and locations where you leveled for your 1st character will be the exact same way you level your 4th character. 

Ohh.... totally fair enough. I completely agree with you there.

There isn't much change from one char to the next in that regards... definitely a bad point about Aion but isn't a big deal if you only plan to level 1 (2 chars) at most. I agree - this is certainly an issue though.... doesn't hold much "replay" value - then again - after getting to 50 - do you even want to reroll? LOL :)

Originally posted by Cammy

Originally posted by tanoril

I think the term 'linear' comes from the fact there is one and only one path to level in Aion.  The quests and locations where you leveled for your 1st character will be the exact same way you level your 4th character. 

Ohh.... totally fair enough. I completely agree with you there.

There isn't much change from one char to the next in that regards... definitely a bad point about Aion but isn't a big deal if you only plan to level 1 (2 chars) at most. I agree - this is certainly an issue though.... doesn't hold much "replay" value - then again - after getting to 50 - do you even want to reroll? LOL :)

A lot of people love to re-roll toons in other games. They definitely won't find it as enjoyable in Aion...

I know I was already tired of the content after having played up to 20 in the beta and then again once it game out.

Originally posted by Anubisan

Originally posted by Cammy

Originally posted by tanoril

I think the term 'linear' comes from the fact there is one and only one path to level in Aion.  The quests and locations where you leveled for your 1st character will be the exact same way you level your 4th character. 

Ohh.... totally fair enough. I completely agree with you there.

There isn't much change from one char to the next in that regards... definitely a bad point about Aion but isn't a big deal if you only plan to level 1 (2 chars) at most. I agree - this is certainly an issue though.... doesn't hold much "replay" value - then again - after getting to 50 - do you even want to reroll? LOL :)

A lot of people love to re-roll toons in other games. They definitely won't find it as enjoyable in Aion...

I know I was already tired of the content after having played up to 20 in the beta and then again once it game out.

 
Totally disagree. I currently have three level 30 toons and plan on working on a fourth soon...different strokes for different folks i guess.

Anyone who has played Vanilla WoW, please don't come on here and ridicule yourself saying it was so~ much better than Aion and so~ much less of a grind than Aion. 

I played Vanilla WoW, it took me 2 months of 3-6 hours of gameplay a day to reach level 60.  Had few occasional troubles finding quests and found myself researching for infos on fansites.  Because honestly, it was a first for me to find myself baffled by the system.  It wasn't hard, it was rather confusing at first.

To the guy who claims Vanilla WoW had absolutely no "GRIND", please don't lie to yourself.  I occasionally found myself falling asleep on my keyboard while doing endless number of quests. 

Of course I also found myself falling asleep on the keyboard while group xp grinding at level 40s in Aion.

Either Vanilla WoW quest grind or Aion latter half group xp grind, the choice is yours. 

Never really bothered with the WoW storyline, and honestly I still don't even know, because all I did was search up guides and info on info sites and skimmed past the actual lore. 

In Aion, I have a level 50 assassin in the korean server Kashinel, but also don't really have a clue about the lore. 

Honestly, people who claim WoW or LOTRO having compelling storylines...please, you can shove my shoe up your mouth.  Reading the actual quests and playing for end game or PvP, PvE purposes, in the end it's all about "to each his/her own taste".  It's a choice, not an obligation.  I'll give LOTRO much deserved credit since it is based on Tolkien's book (and I love LOTR series), but WoW's storyline?  Never read it, never cared for it (and this is coming from a guy who also has Warcraft 2, 3, and frozen throne.). 

All I wanted was to level to cap and get gears, till I found out how useless getting EPIC gears are in WOW.  REAL F**KING EPIC, WHEN THEY'RE ONLY GOOD FOR COUPLE WEEKS AT BEST.

Vanilla WoW also had only ONE instance out of the many which exist today. 

Don't make WoW look like the EPIC consumer phenomenon it is today.  Because Vanilla WoW wasn't even half the shit it is today.

Does it need to be emphasized again?  Vanilla WoW had ONE INSTANCE. 

Maybe WoW did have a more diverse storyline.  That doesn't make it compelling to the likes of LOTRO.  But I guess I wouldn't know if it was even that diverse, since people like me just tend to skip the lore.  The lore part of any MMO never really attracted me in the first place.  If I want a good solid 50 hours of EPIC storyline, I'd rather play a single player RPG on a console.

Finally, I don't play Aion anymore, because of some issues I've had with NCsoft, but frankly speaking, it isn't half as bad as what these forum trolls make it seem. 

I don't know about the WoW carebears who say the lore is so fking epic or that they have never been bored in WoW ever.  But I've been bored out to death with endless repetitions of raids and instances in WoW before.  The same boredom hit me couple times in the process of hitting 50 in Aion, specifically levels 32-37 (Fire Temple instance) and 40-44 (Campgorund grouping till Draupnir).  Then again, while I was playing it korea the level cap was 45, and alot of the content that opened up with 1.5 was new and satisfying. 

Compare all you want, but seriously, Vanilla WoW?  Vanilla WoW wasn't even 1/4 the current WoW, so don't sugar coat WoW as if it was exactly the same then as to now.  Not to mention one of the worst launches in history of MMOs. 

Oh yea, there are two things I absolutely hate about Aion.  For one, I wish they didn't make it auto-targeting.  Secondly, NCsoft's handling of Bots is always slow. 

I can play with the auto-targeting...although I wish it wasn't.  Otherwise, the bots have been a huge problem, and I already foresaw this in the NA/EU servers...since I played on the Korean server.  But then again, it's NCsoft.  They have a tarnished reputation when it comes to handling bots.

Originally posted by mugengaia

Anyone who has played Vanilla WoW, please don't come on here and ridicule yourself saying it was so~ much better than Aion and so~ much less of a grind than Aion. 

I played Vanilla WoW, it took me 2 months of 3-6 hours of gameplay a day to reach level 60.  Had few occasional troubles finding quests and found myself researching for infos on fansites.  Because honestly, it was a first for me to find myself baffled by the system.  It wasn't hard, it was rather confusing at first.

To the guy who claims Vanilla WoW had absolutely no "GRIND", please don't lie to yourself.  I occasionally found myself falling asleep on my keyboard while doing endless number of quests. 

Of course I also found myself falling asleep on the keyboard while group xp grinding at level 40s in Aion.

Either Vanilla WoW quest grind or Aion latter half group xp grind, the choice is yours. 

Never really bothered with the WoW storyline, and honestly I still don't even know, because all I did was search up guides and info on info sites and skimmed past the actual lore. 

In Aion, I have a level 50 assassin in the korean server Kashinel, but also don't really have a clue about the lore. 

Honestly, people who claim WoW or LOTRO having compelling storylines...please, you can shove my shoe up your mouth.  Reading the actual quests and playing for end game or PvP, PvE purposes, in the end it's all about "to each his/her own taste".  It's a choice, not an obligation.  I'll give LOTRO much deserved credit since it is based on Tolkien's book (and I love LOTR series), but WoW's storyline?  Never read it, never cared for it (and this is coming from a guy who also has Warcraft 2, 3, and frozen throne.). 

All I wanted was to level to cap and get gears, till I found out how useless getting EPIC gears are in WOW.  REAL F**KING EPIC, WHEN THEY'RE ONLY GOOD FOR COUPLE WEEKS AT BEST.

Vanilla WoW also had only ONE instance out of the many which exist today. 

Don't make WoW look like the EPIC consumer phenomenon it is today.  Because Vanilla WoW wasn't even half the shit it is today.

Does it need to be emphasized again?  Vanilla WoW had ONE INSTANCE. 

Maybe WoW did have a more diverse storyline.  That doesn't make it compelling to the likes of LOTRO.  But I guess I wouldn't know if it was even that diverse, since people like me just tend to skip the lore.  The lore part of any MMO never really attracted me in the first place.  If I want a good solid 50 hours of EPIC storyline, I'd rather play a single player RPG on a console.

Finally, I don't play Aion anymore, because of some issues I've had with NCsoft, but frankly speaking, it isn't half as bad as what these forum trolls make it seem. 

I don't know about the WoW carebears who say the lore is so fking epic or that they have never been bored in WoW ever.  But I've been bored out to death with endless repetitions of raids and instances in WoW before.  The same boredom hit me couple times in the process of hitting 50 in Aion, specifically levels 32-37 (Fire Temple instance) and 40-44 (Campgorund grouping till Draupnir).  Then again, while I was playing it korea the level cap was 45, and alot of the content that opened up with 1.5 was new and satisfying. 

Compare all you want, but seriously, Vanilla WoW?  Vanilla WoW wasn't even 1/4 the current WoW, so don't sugar coat WoW as if it was exactly the same then as to now.  Not to mention one of the worst launches in history of MMOs. 

 

Oh yea, there are two things I absolutely hate about Aion.  For one, I wish they didn't make it auto-targeting.  Secondly, NCsoft's handling of Bots is always slow. 

I can play with the auto-targeting...although I wish it wasn't.  Otherwise, the bots have been a huge problem, and I already foresaw this in the NA/EU servers...since I played on the Korean server.  But then again, it's NCsoft.  They have a tarnished reputation when it comes to handling bots.

I honestly love you and I hope you consider having my babies

That is all... 

Even this website cant even get rid of gold sellers. Aion does a better job since i havent seen a gold message in game for a month. NCsoft cares about its consumers.

honestly when it came to lore i did research the lore particularly all those games aion, lotro, wow, guild wars .

most of which aion seems to lack alot of . basically elyos against asmodians cuz they was both apart of the same world before it exploded. the baluar were supposed to help but went mad with power so now they fight an endless war. though from what i could tell both sides run away from each other at a instant . instead of pushing forward they scatter and its like the fox in the hen house. wow actually did have a pretty indepth story though it wasnt really unfolded during the game. most of it was backstory and in fact your overall toon just resided there as opposed to being apart of something bigger. lotro i felt gave a good lore as well its lotro basically. you were headed to help out the fellowship as far as i could gather though i dont have the manual and didnt really look up the lore on that i kinda felt it was a given. i mean if your playing most likely you have seen a movie or a book so you should already know the lore or have some good idea of what to expect out of the all the only mmo to truly give a great lore that unfolded while you played would have to be gw i always felt its lore played out quite well even though it does have its issues. and im not saying these games are perfect but i did want to clarify that they do have lore just some more then others

the bots for me were are and always are an issue particularly when your the less damage dealing class in the game and also the slowest which means eveeryone else can gank your kill very easily. which before you scream lies i played a templar up to lvl 35 by that point the game was just so tired. at least in wow the quests were at least entertaining and killing mobs almost always came off with something whether it be something as simple as some bones but my experience in aion was it took forever to kill an enemy almost die everytime you fight an enemy mainly cuz i dealt very little damage but since i had no money getting my stuff upgraded with and is very difficult .  and then the ganking of kills which as i stated before is always lovely.  which that dealing with mass lag, bots everywhere. the whole first month nothing but gold spam and seriously if this game has had these issues in korea um hello?? at what point did someone ask hey maybe we should try to fix it before releasing it  but that would mean they dont make even more money right? and here is the thing the game woulda actually been fun for me if it hadnt been for the fact you kill 30 mobs and come off with next to nothing. getting in a party to do the training grounds 2nd try first time i had to wait the 17 hours since the team i got in was horrible with a cleric that couldnt heal which whatever. the second team we made it all the way through and i get a blue sword which was great til i realized the other ppl in my party had in fact ran that instance upwards of 9 times in a couple of cases and still come off with nothing. a dungeon with elites and you come off with a bunch of garbage in wow you defeat a boss and 9 out of 10 you get something even if it be a common you still come off with something aion some kerubian leather or 800 kinah to be split between 5 members drop rate on the game is atrocious and its very likely you wont make anything off of the training grounds unless you do it repeateadly  which maybe you should but it  does beg the question: if the bots are farming does aion work like guild wars? in the sense that the pool of items gets dryed up by the bots/farmers leaving everyone else empty handed? which guild wars has that issue and just seems very similar in its design 

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Originally posted by mugengaia

Anyone who has played Vanilla WoW, please don't come on here and ridicule yourself saying it was so~ much better than Aion and so~ much less of a grind than Aion. 

I played Vanilla WoW, it took me 2 months of 3-6 hours of gameplay a day to reach level 60.  Had few occasional troubles finding quests and found myself researching for infos on fansites.  Because honestly, it was a first for me to find myself baffled by the system.  It wasn't hard, it was rather confusing at first.

To the guy who claims Vanilla WoW had absolutely no "GRIND", please don't lie to yourself.  I occasionally found myself falling asleep on my keyboard while doing endless number of quests. 

Of course I also found myself falling asleep on the keyboard while group xp grinding at level 40s in Aion.

Either Vanilla WoW quest grind or Aion latter half group xp grind, the choice is yours. 

Never really bothered with the WoW storyline, and honestly I still don't even know, because all I did was search up guides and info on info sites and skimmed past the actual lore. 

In Aion, I have a level 50 assassin in the korean server Kashinel, but also don't really have a clue about the lore. 

Honestly, people who claim WoW or LOTRO having compelling storylines...please, you can shove my shoe up your mouth.  Reading the actual quests and playing for end game or PvP, PvE purposes, in the end it's all about "to each his/her own taste".  It's a choice, not an obligation.  I'll give LOTRO much deserved credit since it is based on Tolkien's book (and I love LOTR series), but WoW's storyline?  Never read it, never cared for it (and this is coming from a guy who also has Warcraft 2, 3, and frozen throne.). 

All I wanted was to level to cap and get gears, till I found out how useless getting EPIC gears are in WOW.  REAL F**KING EPIC, WHEN THEY'RE ONLY GOOD FOR COUPLE WEEKS AT BEST.

Vanilla WoW also had only ONE instance out of the many which exist today. 

Don't make WoW look like the EPIC consumer phenomenon it is today.  Because Vanilla WoW wasn't even half the shit it is today.

Does it need to be emphasized again?  Vanilla WoW had ONE INSTANCE. 

Maybe WoW did have a more diverse storyline.  That doesn't make it compelling to the likes of LOTRO.  But I guess I wouldn't know if it was even that diverse, since people like me just tend to skip the lore.  The lore part of any MMO never really attracted me in the first place.  If I want a good solid 50 hours of EPIC storyline, I'd rather play a single player RPG on a console.

Finally, I don't play Aion anymore, because of some issues I've had with NCsoft, but frankly speaking, it isn't half as bad as what these forum trolls make it seem. 

I don't know about the WoW carebears who say the lore is so fking epic or that they have never been bored in WoW ever.  But I've been bored out to death with endless repetitions of raids and instances in WoW before.  The same boredom hit me couple times in the process of hitting 50 in Aion, specifically levels 32-37 (Fire Temple instance) and 40-44 (Campgorund grouping till Draupnir).  Then again, while I was playing it korea the level cap was 45, and alot of the content that opened up with 1.5 was new and satisfying. 

Compare all you want, but seriously, Vanilla WoW?  Vanilla WoW wasn't even 1/4 the current WoW, so don't sugar coat WoW as if it was exactly the same then as to now.  Not to mention one of the worst launches in history of MMOs. 

 

Oh yea, there are two things I absolutely hate about Aion.  For one, I wish they didn't make it auto-targeting.  Secondly, NCsoft's handling of Bots is always slow. 

I can play with the auto-targeting...although I wish it wasn't.  Otherwise, the bots have been a huge problem, and I already foresaw this in the NA/EU servers...since I played on the Korean server.  But then again, it's NCsoft.  They have a tarnished reputation when it comes to handling bots.

What exactly does this have to do with Aion today?  Are you seriously comparing a game that launched in 2009 to one that launched in 2004.  Isn't Aion supposed to be competing with WoW 2009, not WoW 2004? 

You're right, Vanilla WoW sucked for content but that doesn't mean it's ok for every game since to launch the same exact way.