Originally posted by cukimunga

You ever think that maybe it was a player who made that? IDK just throwing that out. IDK if there is customizable cloaks and stuff. But if NC soft did rip it off then thats just funny.

 

@ Vladkov I dont see why you can't use the "Swastika" Hitler wasn't the first one to use that symbol. The Japanese have used it and many other cultures have as well.

Sri Lanken Buddhism was the first to pioneer it.

not to beat a thread already beaten in to submission but... i dont know about the rest of the old time mmo/gamers but i find it damn funny when every mmo/ game that allows player created guild/group glifs on their toons ALWAYS bring up "what if i use X sign" as an attempt to bash said game or ingame option lolol

most games i have played that have allowed player created glifs ingame generally have some sort of monitoring device/staff so very rarely does offencive items get on the server.

BUT its still funny to watch people try to use it for argumenitive discussion lmao

oh and epic thread derail-ment.. if i had a jpeg or gif of a train wreck i would totally post it for epic LOLs!!!! hahah

Originally posted by Pelaaja

Originally posted by Ranyr

Originally posted by cukimunga

You ever think that maybe it was a player who made that? IDK just throwing that out. IDK if there is customizable cloaks and stuff. But if NC soft did rip it off then thats just funny.

 

@ Vladkov I dont see why you can't use the "Swastika" Hitler wasn't the first one to use that symbol. The Japanese have used it and many other cultures have as well.

 

The Swastika used by Hitler is not the same as the symbol used by a few other countries. And you're thinking China not Japan.

So no, Hitler's Swastika should never be allowed in a game.

Because....?

Christianity has killed more people worldwide than nazis were able to kill.

And yet their symbol is allowed to show in public.

 

 

 

 

yeh exactly ..Islamic Jihad , and crusade been worst killers . as always religions are around to control humanity and Religion is the best weapon created by man.

My thread here went so far off-topic that its non-measurable :P,  first talking about the Lordaeron symbol, then about nazi swastika's, chrisianity and jihads. ah well xD

Originally posted by vladakov

My thread here went so far off-topic that its non-measurable :P,  first talking about the Lordaeron symbol, then about nazi swastika's, chrisianity and jihads. ah well xD

Perhaps. But I think it's important to note, and this is something we can all agree on, is that I slapped down a little bitch that dared to question me.

Win freaking win, baby!

Originally posted by denshing

I can't even comprehend how this thread got so off topic.
 

Cyborg99 made the mistake of responding to a troll and it rolled downhill from there.

Originally posted by Pelaaja

Originally posted by Ranyr

Originally posted by cukimunga

You ever think that maybe it was a player who made that? IDK just throwing that out. IDK if there is customizable cloaks and stuff. But if NC soft did rip it off then thats just funny.

 

@ Vladkov I dont see why you can't use the "Swastika" Hitler wasn't the first one to use that symbol. The Japanese have used it and many other cultures have as well.

 

The Swastika used by Hitler is not the same as the symbol used by a few other countries. And you're thinking China not Japan.

So no, Hitler's Swastika should never be allowed in a game.

Because....?

Christianity has killed more people worldwide than nazis were able to kill.

And yet their symbol is allowed to show in public. 

Because Nazism pilar is the hatred of Jews and the holocaust is the result of. Where as christianity speaks for peace and understanding. Seperate between what the ideology says and what people did in the name of the ideology. For Nazism they were the same, for christianity it hasnt been.

Besides, the inquisition was what, 7-800 years ago? The holocaust was 6-70 years ago.

Also, you have the cross in many countries flags and half the countries in the world has christianity as official religion. Good luck convincing them to remove it from their flag.

Originally posted by Yamota

Originally posted by Pelaaja

Originally posted by Ranyr

Originally posted by cukimunga

You ever think that maybe it was a player who made that? IDK just throwing that out. IDK if there is customizable cloaks and stuff. But if NC soft did rip it off then thats just funny.

 

@ Vladkov I dont see why you can't use the "Swastika" Hitler wasn't the first one to use that symbol. The Japanese have used it and many other cultures have as well.

 

The Swastika used by Hitler is not the same as the symbol used by a few other countries. And you're thinking China not Japan.

So no, Hitler's Swastika should never be allowed in a game.

Because....?

Christianity has killed more people worldwide than nazis were able to kill.

And yet their symbol is allowed to show in public. 

Because Nazism pilar is the hatred of Jews and the holocaust is the result of. Where as christianity speaks for peace and understanding. Seperate between what the ideology says and what people did in the name of the ideology. For Nazism they were the same, for christianity it hasnt been.

Besides, the inquisition was what, 7-800 years ago? The holocaust was 6-70 years ago.

Also, you have the cross in many countries flags and half the countries in the world has christianity as official religion. Good luck convincing them to remove it from their flag.

Too much simplifying.

(I know, it's not the best source but it's the closest one now) there was more than just antisemitism. And for the record, I don't support any of their ideologies or practices. I'm mentioning them just as a point of comparison.

You can't separate the ideology and people who practise it.

And man can only hope we will someday evolve enough to let the religions fade away. They're afterall merely a way to control people.

Originally posted by Pelaaja

Originally posted by Yamota

Originally posted by Pelaaja

Originally posted by Ranyr

Originally posted by cukimunga

You ever think that maybe it was a player who made that? IDK just throwing that out. IDK if there is customizable cloaks and stuff. But if NC soft did rip it off then thats just funny.

 

@ Vladkov I dont see why you can't use the "Swastika" Hitler wasn't the first one to use that symbol. The Japanese have used it and many other cultures have as well.

 

The Swastika used by Hitler is not the same as the symbol used by a few other countries. And you're thinking China not Japan.

So no, Hitler's Swastika should never be allowed in a game.

Because....?

Christianity has killed more people worldwide than nazis were able to kill.

And yet their symbol is allowed to show in public. 

Because Nazism pilar is the hatred of Jews and the holocaust is the result of. Where as christianity speaks for peace and understanding. Seperate between what the ideology says and what people did in the name of the ideology. For Nazism they were the same, for christianity it hasnt been.

Besides, the inquisition was what, 7-800 years ago? The holocaust was 6-70 years ago.

Also, you have the cross in many countries flags and half the countries in the world has christianity as official religion. Good luck convincing them to remove it from their flag.

Too much simplifying.

According to Wiki

(I know, it's not the best source but it's the closest one now) there was more than just antisemitism. And for the record, I don't support any of their ideologies or practices. I'm mentioning them just as a point of comparison.

You can't separate the ideology and people who practise it.

And man can only hope we will someday evolve enough to let the religions fade away. They're afterall merely a way to control people.

I dont know excactly which is more disturbing. The fact that you seem to try and excuse the Nazi ideologi by saying it is not only anti-semitic  but other things as well (something that I have not denied, Nazism is also anti-communist) or the fact that you seem to think that everyone who practice christianity, or other religions, are genocidal maniacs.

Some people who practised christianity, over 600 years ago, commited genocide in the name of christianity. But now the absolute majority do not. I go to church and people in my congregation collect money to send to people who need it, we do not commit, or promote, acts of genocide and nor does the overwhelming majority of christians who are anti-violent.

You have some issues with christianity, or religion, but alot of people who practice religion has done alot of good in the world (such as charity) and it is those that are, now, in majority. Not the extremists who use religion for their own, violent, purposes. If you cant see the difference then I feel sorry for you because then you are no different than a bigot. 

Originally posted by Yamota

Originally posted by Pelaaja

Originally posted by Yamota

Originally posted by Pelaaja

Originally posted by Ranyr

Originally posted by cukimunga

You ever think that maybe it was a player who made that? IDK just throwing that out. IDK if there is customizable cloaks and stuff. But if NC soft did rip it off then thats just funny.

 

@ Vladkov I dont see why you can't use the "Swastika" Hitler wasn't the first one to use that symbol. The Japanese have used it and many other cultures have as well.

 

The Swastika used by Hitler is not the same as the symbol used by a few other countries. And you're thinking China not Japan.

So no, Hitler's Swastika should never be allowed in a game.

Because....?

Christianity has killed more people worldwide than nazis were able to kill.

And yet their symbol is allowed to show in public. 

Because Nazism pilar is the hatred of Jews and the holocaust is the result of. Where as christianity speaks for peace and understanding. Seperate between what the ideology says and what people did in the name of the ideology. For Nazism they were the same, for christianity it hasnt been.

Besides, the inquisition was what, 7-800 years ago? The holocaust was 6-70 years ago.

Also, you have the cross in many countries flags and half the countries in the world has christianity as official religion. Good luck convincing them to remove it from their flag.

Too much simplifying.

According to Wiki

(I know, it's not the best source but it's the closest one now) there was more than just antisemitism. And for the record, I don't support any of their ideologies or practices. I'm mentioning them just as a point of comparison.

You can't separate the ideology and people who practise it.

And man can only hope we will someday evolve enough to let the religions fade away. They're afterall merely a way to control people.

I dont know excactly which is more disturbing. The fact that you seem to try and excuse the Nazi ideologi by saying it is not only anti-semitic  but other things as well (something that I have not denied, Nazism is also anti-communist) or the fact that you seem to think that everyone who practice christianity, or other religions, are genocidal maniacs.

Some people who practised christianity, over 600 years ago, commited genocide in the name of christianity. But now the absolute majority do not. I go to church and people in my congregation collect money to send to people who need it, we do not commit, or promote, acts of genocide and nor does the overwhelming majority of christians who are anti-violent.

You have some issues with christianity, or religion, but alot of people who practice religion has done alot of good in the world (such as charity) and it is those that are, now, in majority. Not the extremists who use religion for their own, violent, purposes. If you cant see the difference then I feel sorry for you because then you are no different than a bigot. 

 lots of sheep around ..  well human is savage and have to control them by a tool other than guns ,  its Religion. I've got your point and i know that doesnt means if people are practicing they are also killing for their faith , however religious blindness is a highly contagious and life threatening disease. So personally i have problem with religion and fairy tail stories that are dangerous in practice. So its completely normal for him to say and defend what he is thinking .

I'm not here to prove anything since most of the times Religious have to prove their imaginary friend.

Originally posted by deviladvent

Originally posted by Yamota

Originally posted by Pelaaja

Originally posted by Yamota

Originally posted by Pelaaja

Originally posted by Ranyr

Originally posted by cukimunga

You ever think that maybe it was a player who made that? IDK just throwing that out. IDK if there is customizable cloaks and stuff. But if NC soft did rip it off then thats just funny.

 

@ Vladkov I dont see why you can't use the "Swastika" Hitler wasn't the first one to use that symbol. The Japanese have used it and many other cultures have as well.

 

The Swastika used by Hitler is not the same as the symbol used by a few other countries. And you're thinking China not Japan.

So no, Hitler's Swastika should never be allowed in a game.

Because....?

Christianity has killed more people worldwide than nazis were able to kill.

And yet their symbol is allowed to show in public. 

Because Nazism pilar is the hatred of Jews and the holocaust is the result of. Where as christianity speaks for peace and understanding. Seperate between what the ideology says and what people did in the name of the ideology. For Nazism they were the same, for christianity it hasnt been.

Besides, the inquisition was what, 7-800 years ago? The holocaust was 6-70 years ago.

Also, you have the cross in many countries flags and half the countries in the world has christianity as official religion. Good luck convincing them to remove it from their flag.

Too much simplifying.

According to Wiki

(I know, it's not the best source but it's the closest one now) there was more than just antisemitism. And for the record, I don't support any of their ideologies or practices. I'm mentioning them just as a point of comparison.

You can't separate the ideology and people who practise it.

And man can only hope we will someday evolve enough to let the religions fade away. They're afterall merely a way to control people.

I dont know excactly which is more disturbing. The fact that you seem to try and excuse the Nazi ideologi by saying it is not only anti-semitic  but other things as well (something that I have not denied, Nazism is also anti-communist) or the fact that you seem to think that everyone who practice christianity, or other religions, are genocidal maniacs.

Some people who practised christianity, over 600 years ago, commited genocide in the name of christianity. But now the absolute majority do not. I go to church and people in my congregation collect money to send to people who need it, we do not commit, or promote, acts of genocide and nor does the overwhelming majority of christians who are anti-violent.

You have some issues with christianity, or religion, but alot of people who practice religion has done alot of good in the world (such as charity) and it is those that are, now, in majority. Not the extremists who use religion for their own, violent, purposes. If you cant see the difference then I feel sorry for you because then you are no different than a bigot. 

 

 lots of sheep around ..  well human is savage and have to control them by a tool other than guns ,  its Religion. I've got your point and i know that doesnt means if people are practicing they are also killing for their faith , however religious blindness is a highly contagious and life threatening disease. So personally i have problem with religion and fairy tail stories that are dangerous in practice. So its completely normal for him to say and defend what he is thinking .

I'm not here to prove anything since most of the times Religious have to prove their imaginary friend.

Highly contagious and life threatening. Yeah those buddist monks and other people like those in the Salvation Army or the red CROSS (or red crescent) who spend their life helping other people is such a dangerous thing.

If anything we need more of that in life, not less. The fact is that the majority of religous people are non-violent but you choose to not see them because that would not fit your picture of "religion is evil" nonsense.

Originally posted by vladakov

Originally posted by Toquio3

No, when the legion (guild) reaches rank 3, the leader can upload a picture as the legion's logo. the wow logo there is just something the leader uploaded from his pc.

that sir, i did not know, however, its ridiculous that its possible,  for example you could also upload a swastika? LOL

umm this is not an aion npc or character toon ....

the aion cloaks do not look like this and surface shaders of this character are not of aion

neither is the style ...

what game is this pic REALLY from?

also .. umm ..  there are some MOBS which are named the same as wow BUT .. those mobs have greek names which ,, were actually creatures from old greek mythology so i can understand that

Originally posted by Yamota

I dont know excactly which is more disturbing. The fact that you seem to try and excuse the Nazi ideologi by saying it is not only anti-semitic  but other things as well (something that I have not denied, Nazism is also anti-communist) or the fact that you seem to think that everyone who practice christianity, or other religions, are genocidal maniacs.

Some people who practised christianity, over 600 years ago, commited genocide in the name of christianity. But now the absolute majority do not. I go to church and people in my congregation collect money to send to people who need it, we do not commit, or promote, acts of genocide and nor does the overwhelming majority of christians who are anti-violent.

You have some issues with christianity, or religion, but alot of people who practice religion has done alot of good in the world (such as charity) and it is those that are, now, in majority. Not the extremists who use religion for their own, violent, purposes. If you cant see the difference then I feel sorry for you because then you are no different than a bigot. 

O, how the time flies when you're having fun.

That makes me, what, over 600 years old?

There's still crusades, and as long as there are religions there will be crusades. No matter how you try to justify yourself you're not supporting it, you are when you are part of it.

EDIT: It might also be that GWB is over 600 hundred years old...

Originally posted by Ichmen

oh and epic thread derail-ment.. if i had a jpeg or gif of a train wreck i would totally post it for epic LOLs!!!! hahah

Indeed, I haven't seen something get this far off-track since...well...this...

Just for the derailment, this thread is EPIC.

lol

Originally posted by Comnitus

This thread is great. We have the "do some research and leave my Aion alone you meanie-head!" fanbots, some weird guy who came in and accused WoW of copying Tolkien, and a "greatest country in the world" debate with some U.S. hating. Oh, and throw in some swastika discussion.

Just good fun, someone posted no content here but im laughing reading every line of it

Originally posted by rznkain

Originally posted by Pelaaja

Originally posted by byson123

Originally posted by Pelaaja

Originally posted by Cyborg99

Originally posted by byson123

Originally posted by Cyborg99

Originally posted by byson123

Originally posted by Cyborg99

Originally posted by byson123

Originally posted by Cyborg99

Originally posted by vladakov

 as a fan of WoW lore i find it insulting to see the Lordaeron icon in a game like Aion tho'.

 

I don't want to see any WoW symbols in aions pathetic world. 

 

then wow should stop ripping stuff off lotr then:P untill then you should just stfu

 

link or gtfo

 

another sad day for mankind go watch the lotr movies then come back or gtfo dumb dumb or no go read the books even but i doubt you have ever read a book tho

still waiting for that link.........
 

seriously? you never even seen the movies of lotr? XD man you are such a major failure its funny go google it even a idiot like you can do that your making such a fool of your self:D your a shame for the rest of the wow fanboys hahaha

still waiting.........
 

I suppose you wouldn't take the address of your local library as an answer?

 

i dont think even knows what a library is by the looks of it lol

We shouldn't be hard for him, they might not have libraries in USA. I've heard that they have adults that can't read.

   Just what we need more eurotrash bashin on us just to bash on it.just keep in mind you rotten bad tooth moron that 90% of the games and more than likely your OS comes from US.Ofc 90% of you peasants just steal  your OS and pretty much all your games and music and movies  to begin with.

USA culture comes from all over the world, specially Europe/UK... so....