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Eronakis

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11/07/09 11:29:26 PM#1

why in the world would these men recieve awards and political "leaders" keep on expressing about this new world order? Why? I wonder.. maybe because that is their agenda? If you still cant even say, that there could be one in place after this evidence.. from their own mouth... its a danm shame.  A damn shame. Please. REFUTE THIS. You can't. You wil just spew the venom from the hypnosis device you own in your household that you watch at primetime.

 

www.youtube.com/watch

 

www.youtube.com/watch

 

There is actually 20 parts... so I just wanted to post the first two... This is basic evidence. It's deeper than that. All you have to do is open your mind and research. I understand that there are some time constraints with people, but if you're against this, if this does go down soon, how dumb you will feel if you're not educated on it and aware so you will not be deceived. And please, do not get your information from Zeitgeist movement, that is strictly their philosophy. 

 

And that is just the first two parts.  Please people wake up! Watch the movie "They Live". It speaks volumes! Its not a damn conspiracy! People who do NOT see this or even refuse to see this, are ones who simply need conformity.

Ekibiogami

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11/07/09 11:34:19 PM#2

Scampers off...

If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude; greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.
—Samuel Adams

Eronakis

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11/07/09 11:40:26 PM#3
Originally posted by Ekibiogami

Scampers off...

 

Dude are you fucking kidding me? That's all you can do is slander? You can't even provide evidence! If you don't even try to learn or understand it, you get what  you deserve!

Ekibiogami

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Grammatically Retarded.

11/07/09 11:51:59 PM#4
Originally posted by Eronakis
Originally posted by Ekibiogami

 

Scampers off...

 

Dude are you fucking kidding me? That's all you can do is slander? You can't even provide evidence! If you don't even try to learn or understand it, you get what  you deserve!


 

Nope. Because if it is true then your Fucked anyways. So just work on what you can. Because if your right then you got no chanse of stoping them. Have a nice life on the Crazy farm.

If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude; greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.
—Samuel Adams

Eronakis

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11/07/09 11:54:36 PM#5
Originally posted by Ekibiogami
Originally posted by Eronakis
Originally posted by Ekibiogami

 

Scampers off...

 

Dude are you fucking kidding me? That's all you can do is slander? You can't even provide evidence! If you don't even try to learn or understand it, you get what  you deserve!


 

Nope. Because if it is true then your Fucked anyways. So just work on what you can. Because if your right then you got no chanse of stoping them. Have a nice life on the Crazy farm.

Dude all you want to do is attack. You're just as bad as fox news. Oh, the tv said you need to wear that new tie because its fashionable and it gets you laid. I believe I am in reality and your sucking the tits from the cow on the crazy farm! And I am done giving you unwarnted attention that you so seek. If you can't have a rational conversation here, go away troll!

Eronakis

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11/08/09 12:17:14 AM#6

Am I the only one who can read between the lines here?

xanphia

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11/08/09 6:44:12 AM#7
Originally posted by Eronakis

Am I the only one who can read between the lines here?


 

Yes, save yourself and let us be.

Eronakis

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11/08/09 1:18:52 PM#8
Originally posted by xanphia
Originally posted by Eronakis

Am I the only one who can read between the lines here?


 

Yes, save yourself and let us be.

I am already saved by being educated. It's really funny because this is a political and religious forum anen d this covers heavy in both aspects. My whole life, I have always been the "I told you so guy." So uh, I told you so, and I am sorry that your ignorant and refuse to even discuss this. Your feeble mind is conditioned to say exactly what you have said. Conformity = fail

Eronakis

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11/08/09 1:34:01 PM#9

Well, I guess this post stands firm to the thread title. So far, no one has gave any evidence to even refute this. I know there are some people out there who agree and could be scared because they care too much what society thinks of them. The people who have and will slander me for this, proves my point. At least 75% of the posters here are atheist, maybe you should take advice from one...."If you knew the truth and it could save someone's life, wouldn't you try to tell them about it?" - Pen -- from Pen and Teller.

zchmrkenhoff

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11/08/09 3:05:06 PM#10

Do you believe in the Y2K apocolypse and the 2012 apocolypse, suh? I certainly lived through Y2K and nothing seemed to happen at all... unfortunately I've been raised in the cutesy little bubble-wrapped nation suburban America is and find it impossible to believe that anything wrong can happen... that's why the past is so exciting, because the world was a dangerous place where there wasn't a huge American bully financially pinning down the entire world, there were threats from everywhere! 

hoopty

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11/08/09 3:19:24 PM#11

It will come a time when humans be marked just like the Jews were marked in WW2..Except this time it will be high tech stuff..They can mark animals  with a chip..Humans will be next..We will also have a cashless society..You will not be able to buy or sell with out this mark..We have the tech for it..It will be just a matter of when and what will spring it to get people to have it..Are you willing to give up your rights for Big Brother?

I might not be all ways right,but i am never wrong..

zchmrkenhoff

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11/08/09 3:24:58 PM#12
Originally posted by hoopty

It will come a time when humans be marked just like the Jews were marked in WW2..Except this time it will be high tech stuff..They can mark animals  with a chip..Humans will be next..We will also have a cashless society..You will not be able to buy or sell with out this mark..We have the tech for it..It will be just a matter of when and what will spring it to get people to have it..Are you willing to give up your rights for Big Brother?

 

No. If you're going to force your society to be educated and read that book, you will have a society who can do 2+2 and reject your tyrannical system. :P

hoopty

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11/08/09 3:48:29 PM#13
Originally posted by zchmrkenhoff
Originally posted by hoopty

It will come a time when humans be marked just like the Jews were marked in WW2..Except this time it will be high tech stuff..They can mark animals  with a chip..Humans will be next..We will also have a cashless society..You will not be able to buy or sell with out this mark..We have the tech for it..It will be just a matter of when and what will spring it to get people to have it..Are you willing to give up your rights for Big Brother?

 

No. If you're going to force your society to be educated and read that book, you will have a society who can do 2+2 and reject your tyrannical system. :P

 

What book will that be? Its going to happen its a matter of time and what will cause it to happen..We will all be in a line like cattle getting ready to be branded. It has been in the works..Here a little read from the USA Today... www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2002/02/26/chip.htm This has been told way before my time.I was born in the 60s..This time people won't have a choice.Its either you get it or die...This World is evil now..Its going to get allot worst...Maybe they will use the terrorist for a excuse to plant there high tech stuff in you..

I might not be all ways right,but i am never wrong..

Eronakis

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11/08/09 3:54:42 PM#14
Originally posted by zchmrkenhoff

Do you believe in the Y2K apocolypse and the 2012 apocolypse, suh? I certainly lived through Y2K and nothing seemed to happen at all... unfortunately I've been raised in the cutesy little bubble-wrapped nation suburban America is and find it impossible to believe that anything wrong can happen... that's why the past is so exciting, because the world was a dangerous place where there wasn't a huge American bully financially pinning down the entire world, there were threats from everywhere! 

 

Nope I don't believe either. The 2012 is just a conditioning propaganda tool. Notice all of the stuff that is blasting on tv about 2012? From tv shows, to discovery and history channel stuff? Notice all of the alien propaganda on tv as well? Ever hear of Project Blue Beam? I don't think the world will end in 2012, I just have a feeling they will use 2012 as an excuse for another false flag terror attack so they can force their solution on you.. just like 9/11 and the patriot act, and the war with iraq.

Eronakis

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11/08/09 3:55:30 PM#15
Originally posted by hoopty
Originally posted by zchmrkenhoff
Originally posted by hoopty

It will come a time when humans be marked just like the Jews were marked in WW2..Except this time it will be high tech stuff..They can mark animals  with a chip..Humans will be next..We will also have a cashless society..You will not be able to buy or sell with out this mark..We have the tech for it..It will be just a matter of when and what will spring it to get people to have it..Are you willing to give up your rights for Big Brother?

 

No. If you're going to force your society to be educated and read that book, you will have a society who can do 2+2 and reject your tyrannical system. :P

 

What book will that be? Its going to happen its a matter of time and what will cause it to happen..We will all be in a line like cattle getting ready to be branded. It has been in the works..Here a little read from the USA Today... www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2002/02/26/chip.htm This has been told way before my time.I was born in the 60s..This time people won't have a choice.Its either you get it or die...This World is evil now..Its going to get allot worst...Maybe they will use the terrorist for a excuse to plant there high tech stuff in you..

Ah yes the Very Chip with in the IMB company. I know all about this. See, I am not the only one...

Ekibiogami

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11/08/09 4:16:27 PM#16
Originally posted by Eronakis
Originally posted by xanphia
Originally posted by Eronakis

Am I the only one who can read between the lines here?


 

Yes, save yourself and let us be.

I am already saved by being educated. It's really funny because this is a political and religious forum anen d this covers heavy in both aspects. My whole life, I have always been the "I told you so guy." So uh, I told you so, and I am sorry that your ignorant and refuse to even discuss this. Your feeble mind is conditioned to say exactly what you have said. Conformity = fail


 

Ok just for Fun lets say the 2 people in your Videos want a NWO.

Do you REALLY think they want the same NWO?

Im Fairly Certin Cronkite and Bush Sr. Don't want the Same New World Order...

If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude; greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.
—Samuel Adams

Fishermage

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"I find your lack of faith disturbing."

11/08/09 4:25:29 PM#17

Silly. The Illuminati created liberal, secular democracy, federalism, human rights, tolerance, and worked to put Jesus' principles in action.

What would be so wrong if that were to extend to the whole world?

The only successful secret societies and plans would have to be done by the GOOD GUYS.

To me it seems the people who wan to to destroy/rule the world are fanatical Muslims, Christians, and Jews -- and they're pretty open about it. Each one is working to create its own end time theory. Oh yes fanatical Gaians too -- can't forget the Global warming idjits.

hoopty

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11/08/09 4:31:09 PM#18
Originally posted by Fishermage

Silly. The Illuminati created liberal, secular democracy, federalism, human rights, tolerance, and worked to put Jesus' principles in action.

What would be so wrong if that were to extend to the whole world?

The only successful secret societies and plans would have to be done by the GOOD GUYS.

To me it seems the people who wan to to destroy/rule the world are fanatical Muslims, Christians, and Jews -- and they're pretty open about it. Each one is working to create its own end time theory. Oh yes fanatical Gaians too -- can't forget the Global warming idjits.

 

End time theory?..Its push the button and watch the nukes fly..Isn't the World suppose to burn?

I might not be all ways right,but i am never wrong..

Fishermage

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"I find your lack of faith disturbing."

11/08/09 4:39:01 PM#19
Originally posted by hoopty
Originally posted by Fishermage

Silly. The Illuminati created liberal, secular democracy, federalism, human rights, tolerance, and worked to put Jesus' principles in action.

What would be so wrong if that were to extend to the whole world?

The only successful secret societies and plans would have to be done by the GOOD GUYS.

To me it seems the people who wan to to destroy/rule the world are fanatical Muslims, Christians, and Jews -- and they're pretty open about it. Each one is working to create its own end time theory. Oh yes fanatical Gaians too -- can't forget the Global warming idjits.

 

End time theory?..Its push the button and watch the nukes fly..Isn't the World suppose to burn?

 

Nope. The world is supposed to go on, and we are supposed to bring liberty to the stars.

The end of the world as described in the Bible already happened when the Roman Empire fell and liberty began to slowly spread throughout the world -- the end of the age of Satan and dawn of the Christian age.

 

Eronakis

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11/08/09 4:44:30 PM#20
Originally posted by Ekibiogami
Originally posted by Eronakis
Originally posted by xanphia
Originally posted by Eronakis

Am I the only one who can read between the lines here?


 

Yes, save yourself and let us be.

I am already saved by being educated. It's really funny because this is a political and religious forum anen d this covers heavy in both aspects. My whole life, I have always been the "I told you so guy." So uh, I told you so, and I am sorry that your ignorant and refuse to even discuss this. Your feeble mind is conditioned to say exactly what you have said. Conformity = fail


 

Ok just for Fun lets say the 2 people in your Videos want a NWO.

Do you REALLY think they want the same NWO?

Im Fairly Certin Cronkite and Bush Sr. Don't want the Same New World Order...

Uh, you don't even understand the concept man! Yes they all want the same thing! Bah don't talk anymore unless you truly understand or what to try and understand or have any evidence to support your claim.

If you truly comprehended this, you would see they want the same thing. But you don't hence, thats why you said what you said.  It's all about controling you and your mind and everyone elses. People are put in certain places of power to condition you. The Tv is a minor hypnosis device to condition you. Commodus said it perfectly on Gladiator. Gracchus said, "What about the shortage of the gain?" Commodus replied, "the people wont worry, they have the Colosseum!" That is exactly what is going on today. They provide a vail "entertainment" to keep your focus else where while they do things between the shadows. The Middle Class is struggling in our economy right now. That is another tactic, they want you to be un-educated and poor and work two jobs because you won't have time to figure out that your in a trance... and you don't even know it.

Eronakis

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11/08/09 4:46:11 PM#21
Originally posted by hoopty
Originally posted by Fishermage

Silly. The Illuminati created liberal, secular democracy, federalism, human rights, tolerance, and worked to put Jesus' principles in action.

What would be so wrong if that were to extend to the whole world?

The only successful secret societies and plans would have to be done by the GOOD GUYS.

To me it seems the people who wan to to destroy/rule the world are fanatical Muslims, Christians, and Jews -- and they're pretty open about it. Each one is working to create its own end time theory. Oh yes fanatical Gaians too -- can't forget the Global warming idjits.

 

End time theory?..Its push the button and watch the nukes fly..Isn't the World suppose to burn?

 

That's what they say.....

Ekibiogami

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Grammatically Retarded.

11/08/09 4:46:34 PM#22
Originally posted by Eronakis
Originally posted by Ekibiogami
Originally posted by Eronakis
Originally posted by xanphia
Originally posted by Eronakis

Am I the only one who can read between the lines here?


 

Yes, save yourself and let us be.

I am already saved by being educated. It's really funny because this is a political and religious forum anen d this covers heavy in both aspects. My whole life, I have always been the "I told you so guy." So uh, I told you so, and I am sorry that your ignorant and refuse to even discuss this. Your feeble mind is conditioned to say exactly what you have said. Conformity = fail


 

Ok just for Fun lets say the 2 people in your Videos want a NWO.

Do you REALLY think they want the same NWO?

Im Fairly Certin Cronkite and Bush Sr. Don't want the Same New World Order...

Uh, you don't even understand the concept man! Yes they all want the same thing! Bah don't talk anymore unless you truly understand or what to try and understand or have any evidence to support your claim.


 

Ummmm If you really think they want the same NWO then YOU are clearly the one who should stop talking and go get Educated.

If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude; greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.
—Samuel Adams

Fishermage

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"I find your lack of faith disturbing."

11/08/09 4:54:45 PM#23
Originally posted by Ekibiogami
Originally posted by Eronakis
Originally posted by Ekibiogami
Originally posted by Eronakis
Originally posted by xanphia
Originally posted by Eronakis

Am I the only one who can read between the lines here?


 

Yes, save yourself and let us be.

I am already saved by being educated. It's really funny because this is a political and religious forum anen d this covers heavy in both aspects. My whole life, I have always been the "I told you so guy." So uh, I told you so, and I am sorry that your ignorant and refuse to even discuss this. Your feeble mind is conditioned to say exactly what you have said. Conformity = fail


 

Ok just for Fun lets say the 2 people in your Videos want a NWO.

Do you REALLY think they want the same NWO?

Im Fairly Certin Cronkite and Bush Sr. Don't want the Same New World Order...

Uh, you don't even understand the concept man! Yes they all want the same thing! Bah don't talk anymore unless you truly understand or what to try and understand or have any evidence to support your claim.


 

Ummmm If you really think they want the same NWO then YOU are clearly the one who should stop talking and go get Educated.

You need to read David Icke and learn the TRUTH!!!

www.davidicke.com/index.php/

he can't be refuted either :)

I love conspiracy theories! None of them  can be refuted, therefore they must all be true. But they can't ALL be true, can they????

Fishermage

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Joined: 11/23/05
Posts: 6986

"I find your lack of faith disturbing."

11/08/09 4:57:01 PM#24
Originally posted by Eronakis
Originally posted by hoopty
Originally posted by Fishermage

Silly. The Illuminati created liberal, secular democracy, federalism, human rights, tolerance, and worked to put Jesus' principles in action.

What would be so wrong if that were to extend to the whole world?

The only successful secret societies and plans would have to be done by the GOOD GUYS.

To me it seems the people who wan to to destroy/rule the world are fanatical Muslims, Christians, and Jews -- and they're pretty open about it. Each one is working to create its own end time theory. Oh yes fanatical Gaians too -- can't forget the Global warming idjits.

 

End time theory?..Its push the button and watch the nukes fly..Isn't the World suppose to burn?

 

That's what they say.....

 

Remember how often "they" are wrong :)

 

THEY say the health care bill just passed by congress will lower health care costs.

THEY say the earth is warming due to man-made activities.

THEY say socialism is the way of the future.

THEY say a lot of crap.

Eronakis

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11/08/09 5:10:02 PM#25
Originally posted by Fishermage
Originally posted by Ekibiogami
Originally posted by Eronakis
Originally posted by Ekibiogami
Originally posted by Eronakis
Originally posted by xanphia
Originally posted by Eronakis

Am I the only one who can read between the lines here?


 

Yes, save yourself and let us be.

I am already saved by being educated. It's really funny because this is a political and religious forum anen d this covers heavy in both aspects. My whole life, I have always been the "I told you so guy." So uh, I told you so, and I am sorry that your ignorant and refuse to even discuss this. Your feeble mind is conditioned to say exactly what you have said. Conformity = fail


 

Ok just for Fun lets say the 2 people in your Videos want a NWO.

Do you REALLY think they want the same NWO?

Im Fairly Certin Cronkite and Bush Sr. Don't want the Same New World Order...

Uh, you don't even understand the concept man! Yes they all want the same thing! Bah don't talk anymore unless you truly understand or what to try and understand or have any evidence to support your claim.


 

Ummmm If you really think they want the same NWO then YOU are clearly the one who should stop talking and go get Educated.

You need to read David Icke and learn the TRUTH!!!

www.davidicke.com/index.php/

he can't be refuted either :)

I love conspiracy theories! None of them  can be refuted, therefore they must all be true. But they can't ALL be true, can they????

 

Haha that guy is an idiot Fisher all he does is slander and attack just like Hannity on fox news! lol Don't pay any attention to him, hes talking out of his ass. As far as he is concered he probably think's  the color red is the color blue.

Haha good point. There are some crazy ass ones, but this one holds the water. David Icke knows his stuff, but I highly disagree that the reptilians are the Gods. I believe they "could" exist. But my theory about the whole aliens, greys, nordicks and reptilians, they are all Nephilium.

One other thing I don't agree with David Icke, is he mixes the new age occult/pagan stuff with his Illuminati teachings. He should understand that they worship Lucifer and are heavy into the occult. His action, problem, solution theory is also correct. As you can see a perfect example of 9/11. Do you really think if 9/11 never happened, our country would of never supported the patriot act nor sending us to Iraq or Afganastan.

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