but cant seem to find anything better that fits my style. ive tried warhammer and it was ok for awhile but it lost my interest after awhile. did the free trial of lotro but didnt really find it all that interesting.

anyway i just want to know some opinions of the people on this site. whats the best MMO besides WoW? and what mmo besides wow has the most players? and dont tell me some stupid crap like runescape or maple story. im talking about a REAL game.

 Ive been enjoying Aion

EQ2 and Aion are the main 2 off the top of my head that are very wowesque in gameplay mechanics.

aion is a little to anime for my tastes and i dont like in eq2 how what class you pick determines your role. like if i roll paladin i can only tank ect

Might also try Runes of Magic and Chronicles of Spellborn. I didn't particularly like them all that much, but they seem to get pretty decent marks from ex-WoW players.

Then um...don't play WoW?

If there are no other mmo's that peak your interest then don't play an mmo. They can be addicting I give you that. I've been just playing single player games the past 2 weeks and they are so superior in game play, but I digress.

Aion is not very wow like after about level 25. If you like Lineage 2 or those type of games then you would enjoy Aion. You said you didn't like Lotro, that is what I would have recommended but that's out. You can give Warhammer or AoC a shot, I believe both of them have free trials. I would suggest Guild Wars but that is radically diferent from your standard mmo. EVE has a 10 day free trial as well I believe and it's a quick download as well.

You just missed the free trial for Fallen Earth but maybe they will have one next holiday.  I got my cousin to play he was a WoW player for a year and he likes FE so far.   I played WoW off and on for a year but IMO FE blows WoW out of the water, but thats me the Indie guy.  I really don't care what the Popular Vote is, because I hate mainstream stuff anyways.

Originally posted by cukimunga

You just missed the free trial for Fallen Earth but maybe they will have one next holiday.  I got my cousin to play he was a WoW player for a year and he likes FE so far.   I played WoW off and on for a year but IMO FE blows WoW out of the water, but thats me the Indie guy.  I really don't care what the Popular Vote is, because I hate mainstream stuff anyways.

i heard fallen earth was pretty bad. i havnt played it though. i watched some videos of it on youtube and its graphics dont impress me much

what about champions online? would anyone recommend that?

 Lotro is currently the second best mmorpg out there. siege of mirkwood will be amazing

Originally posted by Kroosaydur

what about champions online? would anyone recommend that?

It's not a bad game; the combat is fast-paced and flashy and (of course) you can fly and shoot lasers from your eyes and stuff.

There is only one server (like EVE) but it is heavily instanced, heavily zoned, and has loading screens.

The combat is rather simplistic compared to other MMO's. A 30 minute old character in WoW will have more skills and abilities than a 24 hour old character in CO. For the most part, you'll "energy-build" (i.e. auto-attack) and spam 1 or 2 other attacks for hours on end.

Not a bad game, but not great.

Originally posted by Kroosaydur

Originally posted by cukimunga

You just missed the free trial for Fallen Earth but maybe they will have one next holiday.  I got my cousin to play he was a WoW player for a year and he likes FE so far.   I played WoW off and on for a year but IMO FE blows WoW out of the water, but thats me the Indie guy.  I really don't care what the Popular Vote is, because I hate mainstream stuff anyways.

 

i heard fallen earth was pretty bad. i havnt played it though. i watched some videos of it on youtube and its graphics dont impress me much

Sigh....so many players with this mindset. When will they ever learn Game mechanics > graphics.

Not that I am saying Fallen Earth has great game mechanics...just a general statement. Did FE in beta and at the time, it was terrible. Laggy as all hell, lame quests, bad animations, etc. But...that was beta. No idea what it may be like now.

I'd give LotRO a shot. I believe there's a trial. Personally I found EQ2's controls too clunky and the graphics unappealing.

heh.... i been playing wow for like almost 2 years... got too tired... many reasons... .... played eq too since 1997 then played eq2.... and so on.. blah blah blah... anyway ... Lotro amazes me... yeah its not free u gotta pay but hey they got good deals... check the turbine site to see what i mean ... turbine account site that is... but in the game theres a bunch of features and the graphic is amazing ... it even runs in directX10....about gameplay... heh u be playing for hours and wont even know time went by... well check it out u see what i mean... ;) Lotro all the way baby....

 Allods Started today and I gotta say I like it a lot . Former WoW Player and WoW is still a decent game but just getting bored after years and years of playing.

Wow is all about doing one quest after another ... I now wait on Mortal Online to be released. 

If you're more into PvE, I'd recommend LOTRO. I'd just offer one advice, don't hurry to reach end level, you'll miss so many good things on your way there.

If you're more into open world PvP, Aion is also an alternative. Just keep in mind that this game is not quest driven in it's PvE part (aka you'll need to spend quite some time killing mobs). I just mention it because some people are shocked coming from quest grind heavy games to ones that are more into mob farming.

One last thing, I hope this thread is not derailed into pointless arguments regarding the merits and flaws of the proposed games.

Originally posted by Zorndorf

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When I left WoW i joined up with a few buddies and played Eve online. It was a completely different game and it kept me away from wow to this day.

People that are suggesting WoW clones to the op are wrong. Don't play a game that will remind you of WoW play a new type of mmo, go for sci-fi, maybe sandbox or leave the genre altogether and play single player games for a couple years.

EQ2,VG,Lotro, Aion, WAR, AoC are all below average clones. Sure they have a couple good features but overall cannot touch WoW.

If your stuck on fantasy,themepark games only just go back to WoW and roll an alt because none of the other fantasy games compare. It's almost as if people play those games just so they could avoid the most popular mmo on the market.

It's similar to people hating the more popular sports team or rock band because everyone else likes it and they try to rage against the machine.

The fantasy themepark genre is so fucking worthless right now a average game like wow is king its sad.

Originally posted by metalhead980

Originally posted by Zorndorf

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When I left WoW i joined up with a few buddies and played Eve online. It was a completely different game and it kept me away from wow to this day.

People that are suggesting WoW clones to the op are wrong. Don't play a game that will remind you of WoW play a new type of mmo, go for sci-fi, maybe sandbox or leave the genre altogether and play single player games for a couple years.

EQ2,VG,Lotro, Aion, WAR, AoC are all below average clones. Sure they have a couple good features but overall cannot touch WoW.

If your stuck on fantasy,themepark games only just go back to WoW and roll an alt because none of the other fantasy games compare. It's almost as if people play those games just so they could avoid the most popular mmo on the market.

It's similar to people hating the more popular sports team or rock band because everyone else likes it and they try to rage against the machine.

The fantasy themepark genre is so fucking worthless right now a average game like wow is king its sad.

 

That's why I tried 3 times to re-enter EVE, and that's why I'll play ST (even when it will be not a Blizzard quality game) alongside WOW, but seriously playing anything of those mentioned in your post indeed is JUST playing "below average WOW clones".

Just stop pretending, IF you are really bored with WOW, those games are a great way to the nut house.

AND ... in the long run they kill ALL further intrest in playing otherforms of MMO's (like I always said).

Even DK 64 had MORE originallity than the Wow clones.

Originally posted by metalhead980

Originally posted by Zorndorf

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When I left WoW i joined up with a few buddies and played Eve online. It was a completely different game and it kept me away from wow to this day.

People that are suggesting WoW clones to the op are wrong. Don't play a game that will remind you of WoW play a new type of mmo, go for sci-fi, maybe sandbox or leave the genre altogether and play single player games for a couple years.

EQ2,VG,Lotro, Aion, WAR, AoC are all below average clones. Sure they have a couple good features but overall cannot touch WoW.

If your stuck on fantasy,themepark games only just go back to WoW and roll an alt because none of the other fantasy games compare. It's almost as if people play those games just so they could avoid the most popular mmo on the market.

It's similar to people hating the more popular sports team or rock band because everyone else likes it and they try to rage against the machine.

The fantasy themepark genre is so fucking worthless right now a average game like wow is king its sad.

 

QFFT

 Dunno if it'd help, but I usually supplement playing a MMO for an extended period of time with a FPS game. Helps stretch the atrophied twitch reflex muscles.

I believe, that just like everything else, if you do one thing for any extended amount of time the fun bar goes from feeling like you're "playing" to "working"... and after you figure out the game mechanics, what to do and where to go to the point where you're just grinding out quests or xp rather than just enjoying what you're doing then the magic is sort of gone. No matter what game you go to, you'll see through the smoke and mirrors of the game mechanics and feel the same thing... the thing you're tired of. Usually, for me... that's level progression/grinding.

So, I play games that are more action oriented and twitch reflex. It may not work for everyone, but it's helped me in the past when I was just bored of MMO's in general.

Originally posted by Kroosaydur

but cant seem to find anything better that fits my style. ive tried warhammer and it was ok for awhile but it lost my interest after awhile. did the free trial of lotro but didnt really find it all that interesting.

anyway i just want to know some opinions of the people on this site. whats the best MMO besides WoW? and what mmo besides wow has the most players? and dont tell me some stupid crap like runescape or maple story. im talking about a REAL game.

It would help if you let people know what you are looking for in a game. 

Other than what games have the second most players you have not really said what you look for in an mmo. 

Originally posted by metalhead980

Originally posted by Zorndorf

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When I left WoW i joined up with a few buddies and played Eve online. It was a completely different game and it kept me away from wow to this day.

People that are suggesting WoW clones to the op are wrong. Don't play a game that will remind you of WoW play a new type of mmo, go for sci-fi, maybe sandbox or leave the genre altogether and play single player games for a couple years.

EQ2,VG,Lotro, Aion, WAR, AoC are all below average clones. Sure they have a couple good features but overall cannot touch WoW.

If your stuck on fantasy,themepark games only just go back to WoW and roll an alt because none of the other fantasy games compare. It's almost as if people play those games just so they could avoid the most popular mmo on the market.

It's similar to people hating the more popular sports team or rock band because everyone else likes it and they try to rage against the machine.

The fantasy themepark genre is so fucking worthless right now a average game like wow is king its sad.

 

I personally despise the term, 'wow clone'... But it is, I guess, one way of saying, 'this is and that COMPARED to wow is blah.' Which sucks, because comparing one game to another with the same genre will always find elements that are similar to each other. 

yes, I agree with your suggestion: if niche sandbox games does not suit you, stop playing mmo altogether and just stick with single-players or go find another hobby or something.

Well if you still like fantasy MMO's there is always L2 if you don't mind the grind after 60+ and poor quests in the game.

Originally posted by Zorndorf

Originally posted by metalhead980

Originally posted by Zorndorf

<Mod Edit>

When I left WoW i joined up with a few buddies and played Eve online. It was a completely different game and it kept me away from wow to this day.

People that are suggesting WoW clones to the op are wrong. Don't play a game that will remind you of WoW play a new type of mmo, go for sci-fi, maybe sandbox or leave the genre altogether and play single player games for a couple years.

EQ2,VG,Lotro, Aion, WAR, AoC are all below average clones. Sure they have a couple good features but overall cannot touch WoW.

If your stuck on fantasy,themepark games only just go back to WoW and roll an alt because none of the other fantasy games compare. It's almost as if people play those games just so they could avoid the most popular mmo on the market.

It's similar to people hating the more popular sports team or rock band because everyone else likes it and they try to rage against the machine.

The fantasy themepark genre is so fucking worthless right now a average game like wow is king its sad.

 

 

That's why I tried 3 times to re-enter EVE, and that's why I'll play ST (even when it will be not a Blizzard quality game) alongside WOW, but seriously playing anything of those mentioned in your post indeed is JUST playing "below average WOW clones".

Just stop pretending, IF you are really bored with WOW, those games are a great way to the nut house.

AND ... in the long run they kill ALL further intrest in playing otherforms of MMO's (like I always said).

Even DK 64 had MORE originallity than the Wow clones.

Dont use the term "WoW Clone" I would prefer if you said Everquest clones and put WoW in the same bag as the others. 

One of the coolest cloning is the barrens in wow to look totally like the commonlands in EQ, what the heck, even the village is called crossroads... =P