I would sub to LOTRO tomorrow if they would make changes to one thing.

The character generator.  It's so old and tacky. It doesn't have anywhere near enough options, and the final result  is a plastic looking distorted blob thing with rubber legs.

If they brought the character generator up to date so that I could make a reasonable looking character I would subscribe, and I would very likely subscribe for a very long time, because the rest of the game is very good.

Originally posted by Crosswire

I would sub to LOTRO tomorrow if they would make changes to one thing.

 

The character generator.  It's so old and tacky. It doesn't have anywhere near enough options, and the final result  is a plastic looking distorted blob thing with rubber legs.

If they brought the character generator up to date so that I could make a reasonable looking character I would subscribe, and I would very likely subscribe for a very long time, because the rest of the game is very good.

This game offers more options in game at the barber shop, also the customization offered by the cosmetics systems is second to none, and everything is dye-able on top.

Also, not sure if you noticed, but LOTRO is one of the few MMO's with fully animated faces.

...they would implement meaningful monster play agianst the fellowship to support the struggle agianst good and evil in the novels.

Originally posted by Hersaint

...they would implement meaningful monster play agianst the fellowship to support the struggle agianst good and evil in the novels.

All in due time I am sure.

 Actually, I just wish they worked a bit more on their animations. I mean, they've gotten better, you can see it in the expansion content, but the old stuff looks kind of bad in comparison now. Not really a deal breaker, just saying.

I would like to see a much better housing system put in though than the one they kind of shoehorned in. 

Debating playing it again. Dragon Age has kind of put me in the mood for LoTRO's style again, and siege of mirkwood is coming out, but I dunno as ironically I would likely end up ignoring either Dragon Age or LoTRO if I started both of them at the same time. . 

I would take a guess that this is the same people that make Dungeons and dragons online as they seem to have same weird ideas when it comes to the human shape.  

Human characters for instance look like stick insects, arms and legs to long with thin tubular body and as for the rubber legs............well, I think they could have taken a bit more care when creating the animation for this, atm it looks quite moronic.

I like my character to look the part especially if I am going to spend days questing for good looking gear for it.

There is also very little customization, most characters are running around looking like clones.  I would suppose that they would have to write a whole new game to bring the character generator up to date, and that would be the reason they have not already done it.

I gotta agree with Bloodworth here. Sure the facial customization options lack with SWG or AoC has but there are still a heck of a lot more options than you get with most MMOs. And like he said, the cosmetic clothing slots are pure genius when it comes character customization. Not even UO let you wear clothes purely for the way they looked without affecting your armor and how many other games have a full on dye system? My characters are all rather unique looking and I have absolutely never come across another character who looks like my main either in exact hair/facial hair/hair color or in his current "outfit".

As for the the way the humans and other races look, I think LOTRO's are the absolute best behind SWG and AoC and just by a tiny bit. I also quite like the running and walking animations for each of the races which I find rather unique and smooth.

Could they use more cosmetic clothing options? Sure. But for now you'd be hard-pressed to find a better system in a fantasy MMO.(Obviously excluding the Superhero MMOS).

Overall I like LotRO, but I find the character models probably THE weakest part of the game.  I really wish they would address them after they get SoM working right.

Originally posted by Crosswire

There is also very little customization, most characters are running around looking like clones.

This is incorrect.

...they implemented ffa full loot pvp.

Originally posted by Darth_Osor

Overall I like LotRO, but I find the character models probably THE weakest part of the game.  I really wish they would address them after they get SoM working right.

It was one of the things that kept me doing trials and passing it by.  I think I trialed 3, maybe 4 times.  That, and the class options just seemed so unappealing.  I remember looking at the list of skills you develop as you advance and thinking they were pretty sparse.  I'd find out later that many of your higher level abilities stem from deeds and the legendary books.

Revamping and shortening the starter areas got just enough hook in me, though.  From there I was on long enough to learn more about the broad nature of advancement in LotRO.  7 months later, this is the longest I've been with an mmo in 4 years.  I don't see myself leaving anytime soon.

Originally posted by Crosswire

I would sub to LOTRO tomorrow if they would make changes to one thing.

 

The character generator.  It's so old and tacky. It doesn't have anywhere near enough options, and the final result  is a plastic looking distorted blob thing with rubber legs.

If they brought the character generator up to date so that I could make a reasonable looking character I would subscribe, and I would very likely subscribe for a very long time, because the rest of the game is very good.

After playing AION I totally agree (BTW LOTRO is far suoerior to AION in every other way).  I think Turbine is aware of this and would not be surprised to see some changes in the next full expac due out this spring. 

Originally posted by Ruyn

...they implemented ffa full loot pvp.

LOL!!! 

"Let's jump Gandalf!  Dibs on Glamdring!"

 I must be the only person that thinks my LOTRO character looks pretty decent. 
*shrug*  

You people are crazy.  

Originally posted by sigurd57

 I must be the only person that thinks my LOTRO character looks pretty decent. 
*shrug*  

You people are crazy.  

My burg is awesome, you just need to find something that suits u cosmetically..  I been wearing the same "look" since lvl 20ish.

Originally posted by Vaedur

Originally posted by sigurd57

 I must be the only person that thinks my LOTRO character looks pretty decent. 
*shrug*  

You people are crazy.  

 

My burg is awesome, you just need to find something that suits u cosmetically..  I been wearing the same "look" since lvl 20ish.

People, it's not the gear or look of gear, that most of us are talking about as being the problem! Ugh! 
 

Originally posted by Vaedur

Originally posted by sigurd57

 I must be the only person that thinks my LOTRO character looks pretty decent. 
*shrug*  

You people are crazy.  

 

My burg is awesome, you just need to find something that suits u cosmetically..  I been wearing the same "look" since lvl 20ish.

Both QFT!  When I want a change in my toons look I just change one of my cosmetic looks and/or head to barbershop...  It would be nice if they improved overall charater movement,, still not a deal breaker for me, but some (like hobbits) look silly when you are walking; again not a deal breaker.

Originally posted by avalon1000

Originally posted by Crosswire

I would sub to LOTRO tomorrow if they would make changes to one thing.

 

The character generator.  It's so old and tacky. It doesn't have anywhere near enough options, and the final result  is a plastic looking distorted blob thing with rubber legs.

If they brought the character generator up to date so that I could make a reasonable looking character I would subscribe, and I would very likely subscribe for a very long time, because the rest of the game is very good.

 

After playing AION I totally agree (BTW LOTRO is far suoerior to AION in every other way).  I think Turbine is aware of this and would not be surprised to see some changes in the next full expac due out this spring. 

God, I hope you're right!  I would love to see something similar to Aion's character creator in LoTRO. 
 

I would actually sub if...

1. They stop using a rehauled old engine that DDO ran on.

2. Group play, is there any need to group in this game ? None because now its being made to solo.

3. Be a part of Frodos expedition to Mount Doom. Be able to play the Mordor side.

4. Needs more immersion,the world is dull and boring. You don't even get chased by a group of ring wraiths.

5. Combat is just average.

If I didn't know any better, all the did was read up on the ip, creat something that might resembled middle earth and slap a pricetag on it.

Originally posted by SaintViktor

I would actually sub if...

1. They stop using a rehauled old engine that DDO ran on.

Eh I cant think of a better MMO egine than the LotrO/DDO engine, The Graphics vs performance is the best in the industry.

2. Group play, is there any need to group in this game ? None because now its being made to solo.

Eh there is alot of group content and the changes coming in SoM is only affecting Book1-2 so far. There is currently 22 epic books in the game.. LotrO is probably one of the most group oriented modern MMOs but still d needs alot of work (like a mentoring system )

3. Be a part of Frodos expedition to Mount Doom. Be able to play the Mordor side.

Eh you can play "the mordor side".. If you want more then read the books an understand why you cant. Why would you want to follow Frodo?

4. Needs more immersion,the world is dull and boring. You don't even get chased by a group of ring wraiths.

IMO its by far the most immerisve MMO world. You get chased by ring wraith but only in instances because it would make no sense to ahve them running around freely in the orld. Again, read the books...

5. Combat is just average.

Combat is a bit slower and more tactical than most MMOs, Some like it some dont, just like all games.

If I didn't know any better, all the did was read up on the ip, creat something that might resembled middle earth and slap a pricetag on it.

Maybe its time to go back and hype the cartoonish Diablo clone youve been hyping so much...

 I would subscribe if they had actually released the game they promised they were releasing, you k now, Middle Earth Online? Instead of gutting it, changing the name a few months before beta, and then releasing a WoW clone to be safe.

Oh, and the combat is reallly bad. 

Originally posted by SaintViktor

I would actually sub if...

1. They stop using a rehauled old engine that DDO ran on.

Aye one of the best Engines around, you can have a pretty weak machine or awesome, heck you should see it on a hd4870 550be x2 with 4gigs of ram.. not expensive, and looks amazing

2. Group play, is there any need to group in this game ? None because now its being made to solo.

Tons and tons .. tons of both, i can group all night and do book stuff or questing, and at max lvl there is all group content

3. Be a part of Frodos expedition to Mount Doom. Be able to play the Mordor side.

pvmp.. but it's a pve game.. that's one vaild point

4. Needs more immersion,the world is dull and boring. You don't even get chased by a group of ring wraiths.

Huh? have you really played that far.. it's very immersive, you get thrust into the story as well without it being changed.. it's very nice how they work it

5. Combat is just average.

Combat is great, yet, abit slow.. it's being ramped up in the expansion dec1st

If I didn't know any better, all the did was read up on the ip, creat something that might resembled middle earth and slap a pricetag on it.

err the "lore" of the game is totally from middle earth.. honestly, i feel you hardly played lotro and are making judgements based on what you "think" people say about it.. it's pretty obvious you don't play the game, no offense.

I feel like you don't play lotro..

Originally posted by Papadam

Originally posted by SaintViktor

I would actually sub if...

1. They stop using a rehauled old engine that DDO ran on.

Eh I cant think of a better MMO egine than the LotrO/DDO engine, The Graphics vs performance is the best in the industry.

2. Group play, is there any need to group in this game ? None because now its being made to solo.

Eh there is alot of group content and the changes coming in SoM is only affecting Book1-2 so far. There is currently 22 epic books in the game.. LotrO is probably one of the most group oriented modern MMOs but still d needs alot of work (like a mentoring system )

3. Be a part of Frodos expedition to Mount Doom. Be able to play the Mordor side.

Eh you can play "the mordor side".. If you want more then read the books an understand why you cant. Why would you want to follow Frodo?

4. Needs more immersion,the world is dull and boring. You don't even get chased by a group of ring wraiths.

IMO its by far the most immerisve MMO world. You get chased by ring wraith but only in instances because it would make no sense to ahve them running around freely in the orld. Again, read the books...

5. Combat is just average.

Combat is a bit slower and more tactical than most MMOs, Some like it some dont, just like all games.

If I didn't know any better, all the did was read up on the ip, creat something that might resembled middle earth and slap a pricetag on it.

Maybe its time to go back and hype the cartoonish Diablo clone youve been hyping so much...

 

And tell me that people would actually play this game if it didnt have the Lotro ip to it. Its nothing more than  WoW clone with the lotro iup attatched to it. Hardly anything to be excited about unless you are one of those dihards who looks through those rose-colored glasses. Atleast the Torchlight mmo will not be a WoW clone.

Originally posted by SaintViktor
 

 

And tell me that people would actually play this game if it didnt have the Lotro ip to it. Its nothing more than  WoW clone with the lotro iup attatched to it. Hardly anything to be excited about unless you are one of those dihards who looks through those rose-colored glasses. Atleast the Torchlight mmo will not be a WoW clone.

Gotta pretty much agree, I would play if they did something more to differentiate them self from the rest. While their story system sounds intriguing it also sounds as if its not a major part of the game. It sounds like just another, title chasing, achievement based theme-park with raiding being the endgame. Please tell me I am wrong if I am but from everything I have read (only played open beta, and a few trials) sounds like this is the just of the game.

if it's verified by visa so I can resub as they don't sell prepaids here anymore, :)