Originally posted by colddog

Originally posted by Aemi

Originally posted by colddog

Originally posted by Posting

Originally posted by colddog

Really, the answer to this is vent. I've used vent a lot going through raids in various games. Get over it. Males play female characters for the hell of it. It's normal, not abnormal. 

 

What is abnormal is hitting on someone because their character is a female. I had a female mage in WoW a while back and I remember this other mage hit on me not once in tells, but twice. The frist time I told him I was a dude. The second time I told him, he told me that he forgot. That guy was obviously playing the numbers for whatever reason. That is the person that needs to be watched.

No the answer is to not date in MMO's. Nothing wrong with making friends. Shouldn't matter to you whether they are male or female unless your looking for sexual gratification.

Not everyone is comfortable with voice chat, or sharing pictures. My one friend showed some of her pictures online once and people used them to harass her with. Voice chat is just ew. I've never liked it. I was on it times before and it's usually a bunch of nerdy boys cussing, discussing stupid things, fighting, or hitting on anyone with a high pitced voice. No place for a girl ever want to be in. Unless you like getting hit on by boys like that.

 

Voice chat is an absolute must in Raiding and PvP. I enjoy PvP the most. So voice chat is absolutely important.

 

There have been tons of girls in my guilds on voice chat. People say they are rare, but they really aren't. Even in WoW, I think at least 30% of our guild was female. Because you get to choose who is in vent, you are able to weed out the "bunch of nerdy boys cussing, discussing stupid things, fighting, or hitting on anyone with a high pitced voice." If you have never been in a solid guild, I suppose that your experience has been different. In any MMO I've played, it has always been about playing with people that share your goals and interests. 

 

To me, in game character model/name really has nothing to do with the social aspect of MMOs. Getting close with people, playing the game together and doing really well is the best part. If someone gets freaked about about a guy playing a chick, it's because they are too immature not only from an MMO perspective, but in real life as well.

 

 

So what your saying is if a male playing a male character doesn't want to use voice chat, that's fine. But if a female playing a female character is uncomfortable with it  that's reason to call them a male?  Double standards never cease to amaze me.

 

Noo, I'm saying that your character gender does not matter at all. If someone tells me they are female, I generally believe them. Especially since such a large percentage of characters are actually female. In the end, it's silly to think that it's some sort of disguise made up by gay males meant to lure straight males into cybering with them. While .00001% of the time this might be true, it just isn't a danger if you are responsible and mature.

I agree with you completely then.

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Originally posted by Delvie

Was absolutely shocked when one of the first questions I got from another player is are you really a girl?  This was my first MMO, and I was even more shocked when saying yes I was asked to prove it.  I was like why in the world do you care?  This is just a game. 

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Exactly. Which is why the answer to the first question should have been: "None of your damn business."

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Originally posted by GoldenDog
Genders' are a generalization and weight is a specific.
There's a difference between me picking to be blonde (having black hair) because it's a feature moreso than gender.

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Um, wha? You lost me here.

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See, you pick Male / Female...  THEN you choose hair color, style, weight...

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Generally you pick race (human, elf, dwarf, whatever) before you pick any of those. What's your point?

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They aren't in the same category.  It's the volume of nurological associations that are attached with the general vs the specific warrenting a completely different emotional response.

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It's "neurological." Just so you know. (also, "warranting")
 

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There's this science called psychology.  Its been around for awhile.  Odds are their conclusions are a lot more accurate than the ones you'll get on an MMO forum.   

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Very true. So where did you get your degree in it?

Ban this!

It is after all a ROLE playing game.  You're supposed to play a role, whether it is similar to you IRL, or a 12-year-old or an 80-year old.  It doesn't matter at all.  People who act like it matters have mental issues.

Originally posted by Vhaln

 

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Originally posted by nAAtimus

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Originally posted by Ihmotepp
 
The answer is yes, some games do have character choices that look very young, like 12 or under. Most of them have the Anime style of art.
 

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How many? I don't want an exact figure, a rough estimate will do.  From my experience, the closest thing most games offer for age manipulation is gray/white hair.

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You want an exact number? Some do, maybe not most, but some. Not that you can enter an exact age, but in AoC and Aion, you can make a pretty good representation of elderly, or at least, kinda wrinkly middle-aged premature grey. Aion, among a few other Asian MMOs I'm less familiar with, also allow you to look like a small child. Not many people take advantage of those options, but even in DAOC, I attempted to make my norse healer look like an old woman.

More and more, these sorts of options are being added to games, and while they may be in a minority, some players do go for something other than the hot young model look. Even then though, its usually players who DON'T look that way IRL. I'm not much of a roleplayer, but why would I want to play anything like what I already am? How boring is that?

 

So what, half a dozen games?

In response to OP

Just play the game how you want to play it, and don't worry about people you don't even know.

There will always be griefers in games, but hey who cares.

A better question would be something like.......

Why the hell do guys think a mmorpg is a freaking dating service?

Originally posted by ferndip

A better question would be something like.......

 

Why the hell do guys think a mmorpg is a freaking dating service?

 

 

Some people do find people they like in MMO's. Usually leads to nowhere good. A "former" friend of mine married another friend of mine and they don't even live in the same country. Then broke up shortly after and my former friend tried to get and money from him >_>

She wasn't that good of a person to begin with but sometimes you can be friends with immoral people.

Anyway dating in a MMO never leads to anything good. If you do find someone you like that's great, but it shouldn't be where you look for love.

Originally posted by ferndip

A better question would be something like.......

 

Why the hell do guys think a mmorpg is a freaking dating service?

 

Some people do find people they like in MMO's. Usually leads to nowhere good. A "former" friend of mine married another friend of mine and they don't even live in the same country. Then broke up shortly after and my former friend tried to get and money from him >_>

She wasn't that good of a person to begin with but sometimes you can be friends with immoral people.

Anyway dating in a MMO never leads to anything good. If you do find someone you like that's great, but it shouldn't be where you look for love.

The trully pressing question hasn't been asked.

If you are playing a girl, but you are a guy in real life... what is your bonus for grouping?

well idk, but I watched surrogate, and it scared me.

Originally posted by LynxJSA

The trully pressing question hasn't been asked.

 

If you are playing a girl, but you are a guy in real life... what is your bonus for grouping?

wat?

lol

I tend to play a female character. Why? Well I'm a dude irl and it's boring to do it again, so why not change things up now and then in a virtual world where it really doesn't matter?

No, I'm not gay or anything. But my point is whatever is in the game is completely irrelevant to the real world. Why the hell would you flirt with ANYTHING digital ffs? I prefer real girls lols

A lot of people play these games to escape, though. Just as I do. You can't expect anything to be what it seems online. Only desperate idiots would do so.

This said I do not always play  a female toon, DON'T JUDGE MEH

However if I have some dude trying to flirt with my toon and he asks if I'm really a girl, I just link them to the following picture;

 

Originally posted by Ilvaldyr

I've never understood the anti-genderbending crusade.

My character isn't me. It's not supposed to be me.

It's not a veiled admission that I would like to be someone or something else IRL.

It's just the character I play in a game.

Sometimes it will be a fat 4ft bearded dwarf, or a 7ft skinny elf. Sometimes it'll be an all-american roughneck in power armour, a white-haired misogynist with a vicious scar, a yellow haired anime weirdo with an improbably large sword, or a skinny cell-shaded chick with a Submachinegun.

Reading too much into a choice of character is pointless, imo.

Honestly I think it only matters to people who want to flirt with other people in online games. The rest of us don't care.
 

Its called mmoRPg!

Its ok to roleplay if you want. Use common sense.

No point in making yourself (age/gender/profession) and not have fun.

Its just a game. Everyone knows the rules*..or learn them as they go on.

And do you interact with the avatar or the person behind it?

*Common internet rules.

Originally posted by Redline65

Originally posted by Ilvaldyr

I've never understood the anti-genderbending crusade.

My character isn't me. It's not supposed to be me.

It's not a veiled admission that I would like to be someone or something else IRL.

It's just the character I play in a game.

Sometimes it will be a fat 4ft bearded dwarf, or a 7ft skinny elf. Sometimes it'll be an all-american roughneck in power armour, a white-haired misogynist with a vicious scar, a yellow haired anime weirdo with an improbably large sword, or a skinny cell-shaded chick with a Submachinegun.

Reading too much into a choice of character is pointless, imo.

Honestly I think it only matters to people who want to flirt with other people in online games. The rest of us don't care.
 

I think  that among the young male crowd that's probably quite a lot of players. Plus young males are particularly susceptible to homophobia, since they are just starting to get comfortable with their sexual identity. What's the number one insult among the teen male crowd? You're gay.

Originally posted by Ihmotepp

Originally posted by Redline65

Originally posted by Ilvaldyr

I've never understood the anti-genderbending crusade.

My character isn't me. It's not supposed to be me.

It's not a veiled admission that I would like to be someone or something else IRL.

It's just the character I play in a game.

Sometimes it will be a fat 4ft bearded dwarf, or a 7ft skinny elf. Sometimes it'll be an all-american roughneck in power armour, a white-haired misogynist with a vicious scar, a yellow haired anime weirdo with an improbably large sword, or a skinny cell-shaded chick with a Submachinegun.

Reading too much into a choice of character is pointless, imo.

Honestly I think it only matters to people who want to flirt with other people in online games. The rest of us don't care.
 

 I think  that among the young male crowd that's probably quite a lot of players. Plus young males are particularly susceptible to homophobia, since they are just starting to get comfortable with their sexual identity. What's the number one insult among the teen male crowd? You're gay.

Homophobe is just another synonym for idiot.

I believe that the people with this odd mentality need to be tortured.

With this in mind, all my future MMO characters will be created as my complete RL physical opposite.

They will be short, fat, redheaded, female, and preferably black. Or maybe asian.

What is the opposite of "pasty white englishman" anyway?

The only people it matters to are the same idiots who see a girl in a game and are desperate enough for love to think "she might be the one!" without even having spoken to her. Same way they do with every girl in real life, probably. They don't have any standards because they're stupid and pathetic. The next time I play a MMO as a girl I might lead a few of them on just for lulz, depends on how bored I am :)

Originally posted by Ihmotepp

What's the difference in playing a skinny girl if you are actually fat, and playing a girl if you are a guy?

The latter is intentional deception, usually for perverse reasons.