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11/06/09 9:25:28 AM#76
Originally posted by Fishermage
Why is life the ultimate meaning of life? Why are children important? what gives them meaning? Why are parents important? what gives them meaning?
What? Without your god your children or wife are not important to you??? They do not have meaning? If some day you discover there is no god, all your moral codex will fell in black abyss? Sorry ... but if your god is about this ... then I'm glad even more being atheist, because my children and wife mean all to me. I do not need god for this. I enjoy every single moment being with them, walking, playing, going with them to some their preffered sport event, .... Just being in their company. And when we are gone ... we are gone. Of course, make no mistake, who would not like to have eternal stay in some kind of heaven, enjoying for ethernity ... But I simply accept fact, that you are unable, that there is NOTHING beyond death. And ***THIS*** makes every single moment of life and staying with one you love so important. |
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11/06/09 11:02:08 AM#77
Originally posted by pre_mar
What? Without your god your children or wife are not important to you??? They do not have meaning? If some day you discover there is no god, all your moral codex will fell in black abyss? Sorry ... but if your god is about this ... then I'm glad even more being atheist, because my children and wife mean all to me. I do not need god for this. I enjoy every single moment being with them, walking, playing, going with them to some their preffered sport event, .... Just being in their company. And when we are gone ... we are gone. Of course, make no mistake, who would not like to have eternal stay in some kind of heaven, enjoying for ethernity ... But I simply accept fact, that you are unable, that there is NOTHING beyond death. And ***THIS*** makes every single moment of life and staying with one you love so important.
I didn't say anything about God or about what I think gives life meaning, I am asking you. Why is your wife important to you? Why do they have meaning? It seems they are important to you because they give you pleasure. Is hedonism your morality and meaning? I am not saying ANYTHING about my own beliefs. What I am doing is trying to figure out yours. They seem to mean "all" to you because you enjoy them. Is that what you are saying? Please don't get all angry and take the "atack back" strategy, I just want you to actually EXPLAIN what you mean when you say you give things your own meaning. Let me try this again, hopefully you won't get so defensive this time: why are these things important? So far you seem to be saying they are important because you enjoy them. If I am wrong, could you please explain what you mean more clearly? |
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