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  Ihmotepp

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11/05/09 11:55:16 PM#26

Troubling portrait emerges of Fort Hood suspect.

WASHINGTON – His name appears on radical Internet postings. A fellow officer says he fought his deployment to Iraq and argued with soldiers who supported U.S. wars.

At least six months ago, Hasan came to the attention of law enforcement officials because of Internet postings about suicide bombings and other threats, including posts that equated suicide bombers to soldiers who throw themselves on a grenade to save the lives of their comrades.

On a form filled out by those seeking spouses through a program at the mosque, Hasan listed his birthplace as Arlington, Va., but his nationality as Palestinian, Khan said.

"I don't know why he listed Palestinian," Khan said, "He was not born in Palestine.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_fort_hood_shooting_suspect

  User Deleted
11/05/09 11:58:36 PM#27
Originally posted by Ihmotepp

Troubling portrait emerges of Fort Hood suspect.

WASHINGTON – His name appears on radical Internet postings. A fellow officer says he fought his deployment to Iraq and argued with soldiers who supported U.S. wars.

At least six months ago, Hasan came to the attention of law enforcement officials because of Internet postings about suicide bombings and other threats, including posts that equated suicide bombers to soldiers who throw themselves on a grenade to save the lives of their comrades.

On a form filled out by those seeking spouses through a program at the mosque, Hasan listed his birthplace as Arlington, Va., but his nationality as Palestinian, Khan said.

"I don't know why he listed Palestinian," Khan said, "He was not born in Palestine.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_fort_hood_shooting_suspect

 

Not good at all.

 

For any of us.

  Precusor

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11/06/09 12:08:57 AM#28
Originally posted by Ihmotepp

On a form filled out by those seeking spouses through a program at the mosque, Hasan listed his birthplace as Arlington, Va., but his nationality as Palestinian, Khan said.

"I don't know why he listed Palestinian," Khan said, "He was not born in Palestine.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_fort_hood_shooting_suspect

Seeking spouses through a mosque? wtf

 

  dynamo122

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Posts: 165

11/06/09 12:13:05 AM#29
Originally posted by Ihmotepp

Troubling portrait emerges of Fort Hood suspect.

WASHINGTON – His name appears on radical Internet postings. A fellow officer says he fought his deployment to Iraq and argued with soldiers who supported U.S. wars.

At least six months ago, Hasan came to the attention of law enforcement officials because of Internet postings about suicide bombings and other threats, including posts that equated suicide bombers to soldiers who throw themselves on a grenade to save the lives of their comrades.

On a form filled out by those seeking spouses through a program at the mosque, Hasan listed his birthplace as Arlington, Va., but his nationality as Palestinian, Khan said.

"I don't know why he listed Palestinian," Khan said, "He was not born in Palestine.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_fort_hood_shooting_suspect

 

Then WTF is he doing in the U.S. army?!

My god, they need to ban the islamic relgion all together. Nothing but nut cases and prehistoric cave men.

  Ihmotepp

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11/06/09 12:15:28 AM#30
Originally posted by Precusor
Originally posted by Ihmotepp

On a form filled out by those seeking spouses through a program at the mosque, Hasan listed his birthplace as Arlington, Va., but his nationality as Palestinian, Khan said.

"I don't know why he listed Palestinian," Khan said, "He was not born in Palestine.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_fort_hood_shooting_suspect

Seeking spouses through a mosque? wtf

 

 

Sounds normal to me. Many people try to find spouses of the same religion, and churches, temples, and mosques are often the center of matchmaking. That's really nothing new. A Jewish gal might want to find a good Jewish guy, and Muslim guy might want to find a good Muslim girl. What's odd about that?

But when you saw the guys name was Middle Eastern did anyone really think this guy just went postal, and it had nothing to do with the evil Zionists?

  User Deleted
11/06/09 12:17:37 AM#31
Originally posted by dynamo122
Originally posted by Ihmotepp

Troubling portrait emerges of Fort Hood suspect.

WASHINGTON – His name appears on radical Internet postings. A fellow officer says he fought his deployment to Iraq and argued with soldiers who supported U.S. wars.

At least six months ago, Hasan came to the attention of law enforcement officials because of Internet postings about suicide bombings and other threats, including posts that equated suicide bombers to soldiers who throw themselves on a grenade to save the lives of their comrades.

On a form filled out by those seeking spouses through a program at the mosque, Hasan listed his birthplace as Arlington, Va., but his nationality as Palestinian, Khan said.

"I don't know why he listed Palestinian," Khan said, "He was not born in Palestine.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_fort_hood_shooting_suspect

 

Then WTF is he doing in the U.S. army?!

My god, they need to ban the islamic relgion all together. Nothing but nut cases and prehistoric cave men.

Damn strait.  Just like Texas is nothing but a bunch of DUMB FUCKING REDNECKS right?

 

Edit- Obviously this is untrue because Lyle Lovett, the Dixie Chicks, and Robert Earl Keen come from Texas.

I was helping you explore the depths of your OWN personal stupidity.

  dynamo122

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11/06/09 12:19:32 AM#32
Originally posted by Enkindu
Originally posted by dynamo122
Originally posted by Ihmotepp

Troubling portrait emerges of Fort Hood suspect.

WASHINGTON – His name appears on radical Internet postings. A fellow officer says he fought his deployment to Iraq and argued with soldiers who supported U.S. wars.

At least six months ago, Hasan came to the attention of law enforcement officials because of Internet postings about suicide bombings and other threats, including posts that equated suicide bombers to soldiers who throw themselves on a grenade to save the lives of their comrades.

On a form filled out by those seeking spouses through a program at the mosque, Hasan listed his birthplace as Arlington, Va., but his nationality as Palestinian, Khan said.

"I don't know why he listed Palestinian," Khan said, "He was not born in Palestine.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_fort_hood_shooting_suspect

 

Then WTF is he doing in the U.S. army?!

My god, they need to ban the islamic relgion all together. Nothing but nut cases and prehistoric cave men.

Damn strait.  Just like Texas is nothing but a bunch of DUMB FUCKING REDNECKS right?

 

Go fuck yourself and convert damn Muslim lover.

  Ihmotepp

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11/06/09 12:19:39 AM#33
Originally posted by Enkindu
Originally posted by dynamo122
Originally posted by Ihmotepp

Troubling portrait emerges of Fort Hood suspect.

WASHINGTON – His name appears on radical Internet postings. A fellow officer says he fought his deployment to Iraq and argued with soldiers who supported U.S. wars.

At least six months ago, Hasan came to the attention of law enforcement officials because of Internet postings about suicide bombings and other threats, including posts that equated suicide bombers to soldiers who throw themselves on a grenade to save the lives of their comrades.

On a form filled out by those seeking spouses through a program at the mosque, Hasan listed his birthplace as Arlington, Va., but his nationality as Palestinian, Khan said.

"I don't know why he listed Palestinian," Khan said, "He was not born in Palestine.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_fort_hood_shooting_suspect

 

Then WTF is he doing in the U.S. army?!

My god, they need to ban the islamic relgion all together. Nothing but nut cases and prehistoric cave men.

Damn strait.  Just like Texas is nothing but a bunch of DUMB FUCKING REDNECKS right?

 

I would say the Muslim religion has more than it's fair share of nutcases, and Texas probably has more than it's fair share of dumb fucking rednecks.

 not all Muslims are nutcases, and not all Texans are dumb fucking rednecks. But a lot are.

  User Deleted
11/06/09 12:22:20 AM#34
Originally posted by Ihmotepp
Originally posted by Enkindu
Originally posted by dynamo122
Originally posted by Ihmotepp

Troubling portrait emerges of Fort Hood suspect.

WASHINGTON – His name appears on radical Internet postings. A fellow officer says he fought his deployment to Iraq and argued with soldiers who supported U.S. wars.

At least six months ago, Hasan came to the attention of law enforcement officials because of Internet postings about suicide bombings and other threats, including posts that equated suicide bombers to soldiers who throw themselves on a grenade to save the lives of their comrades.

On a form filled out by those seeking spouses through a program at the mosque, Hasan listed his birthplace as Arlington, Va., but his nationality as Palestinian, Khan said.

"I don't know why he listed Palestinian," Khan said, "He was not born in Palestine.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_fort_hood_shooting_suspect

 

Then WTF is he doing in the U.S. army?!

My god, they need to ban the islamic relgion all together. Nothing but nut cases and prehistoric cave men.

Damn strait.  Just like Texas is nothing but a bunch of DUMB FUCKING REDNECKS right?

 

I would say the Muslim religion has more than it's fair share of nutcases, and Texas probably has more than it's fair share of dumb fucking rednecks.

 not all Muslims are nutcases, and not all Texans are dumb fucking rednecks. But a lot are.

 

A most excellent analysis.  Cheers.

  User Deleted
11/06/09 12:23:49 AM#35
Originally posted by dynamo122
Originally posted by Enkindu
Originally posted by dynamo122
Originally posted by Ihmotepp

Troubling portrait emerges of Fort Hood suspect.

WASHINGTON – His name appears on radical Internet postings. A fellow officer says he fought his deployment to Iraq and argued with soldiers who supported U.S. wars.

At least six months ago, Hasan came to the attention of law enforcement officials because of Internet postings about suicide bombings and other threats, including posts that equated suicide bombers to soldiers who throw themselves on a grenade to save the lives of their comrades.

On a form filled out by those seeking spouses through a program at the mosque, Hasan listed his birthplace as Arlington, Va., but his nationality as Palestinian, Khan said.

"I don't know why he listed Palestinian," Khan said, "He was not born in Palestine.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_fort_hood_shooting_suspect

 

Then WTF is he doing in the U.S. army?!

My god, they need to ban the islamic relgion all together. Nothing but nut cases and prehistoric cave men.

Damn strait.  Just like Texas is nothing but a bunch of DUMB FUCKING REDNECKS right?

 

Go fuck yourself and convert damn Muslim lover.

 

Must... resist.. urge.. to ... make ... farm..... animal.. joke....

  dynamo122

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Posts: 165

11/06/09 12:25:11 AM#36

Yeah, i'd like to see how much you like and want to defend a Muslim when one throws a grenade in your face. Weak pussies are gonna get us all killed with that kind of compassion.

  dynamo122

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Joined: 7/17/09
Posts: 165

11/06/09 12:28:22 AM#37
Originally posted by Ihmotepp
Originally posted by Enkindu
Originally posted by dynamo122
Originally posted by Ihmotepp

Troubling portrait emerges of Fort Hood suspect.

WASHINGTON – His name appears on radical Internet postings. A fellow officer says he fought his deployment to Iraq and argued with soldiers who supported U.S. wars.

At least six months ago, Hasan came to the attention of law enforcement officials because of Internet postings about suicide bombings and other threats, including posts that equated suicide bombers to soldiers who throw themselves on a grenade to save the lives of their comrades.

On a form filled out by those seeking spouses through a program at the mosque, Hasan listed his birthplace as Arlington, Va., but his nationality as Palestinian, Khan said.

"I don't know why he listed Palestinian," Khan said, "He was not born in Palestine.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_fort_hood_shooting_suspect

 

Then WTF is he doing in the U.S. army?!

My god, they need to ban the islamic relgion all together. Nothing but nut cases and prehistoric cave men.

Damn strait.  Just like Texas is nothing but a bunch of DUMB FUCKING REDNECKS right?

 

I would say the Muslim religion has more than it's fair share of nutcases, and Texas probably has more than it's fair share of dumb fucking rednecks.

 not all Muslims are nutcases, and not all Texans are dumb fucking rednecks. But a lot are.

 

Right but it's perfectly legal and moraly acceptable to be dumb, but to be a murderous nutcase..? MMk whatever u say bro

  User Deleted
11/06/09 12:31:11 AM#38
Originally posted by dynamo122

Yeah, i'd like to see how much you like and want to defend a Muslim when one throws a grenade in your face. Weak pussies are gonna get us all killed with that kind of compassion.

No, the ignorant ASSHOLES are gonna get us killed first.

You realize you are the precise COUNTERPART to the angry Muslim radical chanting "death to America?"

BOTH of you fuckers are crazy and violent and you are gonna be the death of us all.

Unless the few sane folks left around can manage to clean up the giant clusterfuck that people like you have left for us.

 

Thanks for that, by the way.

  dynamo122

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Joined: 7/17/09
Posts: 165

11/06/09 12:37:18 AM#39
Originally posted by Enkindu
Originally posted by dynamo122

Yeah, i'd like to see how much you like and want to defend a Muslim when one throws a grenade in your face. Weak pussies are gonna get us all killed with that kind of compassion.

No, the ignorant ASSHOLES are gonna get us killed first.

You realize you are the precise COUNTERPART to the angry Muslim radical chanting "death to America?"

BOTH of you fuckers are crazy and violent and you are gonna be the death of us all.

Unless the few sane folks left around can manage to clean up the giant clusterfuck that people like you have left for us.

 

Thanks for that, by the way.

 

Good idea, lets just sit on our ass and let them kill us, all the while being compasionate about them. They don't want our help and they've made it very clear.

Quit being a pussy.

  User Deleted
11/06/09 1:05:15 AM#40
Originally posted by dynamo122
Originally posted by Enkindu
Originally posted by dynamo122

Yeah, i'd like to see how much you like and want to defend a Muslim when one throws a grenade in your face. Weak pussies are gonna get us all killed with that kind of compassion.

No, the ignorant ASSHOLES are gonna get us killed first.

You realize you are the precise COUNTERPART to the angry Muslim radical chanting "death to America?"

BOTH of you fuckers are crazy and violent and you are gonna be the death of us all.

Unless the few sane folks left around can manage to clean up the giant clusterfuck that people like you have left for us.

 

Thanks for that, by the way.

 

Good idea, lets just sit on our ass and let them kill us all the while being compasionate about them. They don't want our help and they've made it very clear.

Quit being a pussy.

Always interesting that folks like yourself think being smart means being weak.

Quite the opposite is true actually.

 

Here's something to sleep on.  What do you think might cause a guy to get all the way through college, med school, and an MPH, and then get his commission as an officer in the army medical corps of the wealthiest and most powerful nation on the planet..

to LOSE HIS SHIT and throw his life away on a hateful murder suicide?

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and predict that this wasn't some 12 year long plan filled with huge challenges just so he can piss it away on a fucking POINTLESS shooting spree.  You have any idea what it takes to get through med school?

 

I bet for the better part of a decade he's had guys like you saying shit like "why the fuck is this camel jockey ape in my army."  You think they embraced his patriotism when they saw his name?? GUYS LIKE YOU???  And this shit is going on ALL over the US tonight.  The dumb rednecks are throwing beer bottles at the mosques, and the radical mosques are recruiting like mad.  Excellent work, you bright shining Bigots and Xenophobes of the United States.

 

What do you think TURNS moderate American Muslims into Radical Suicidal Killers???

It is HATE dumbass.  Prejudice.  Ignorance. Racism.  Just general FUCKING stupidity which you have displayed in technicolor right here in this thread.

This guy was an MD and an American army officer, and I bet he put up with racist ignorant redneck bullshit every day of his life.

Just a guess, based on everything I've seen in a lifetime in the American south.

Hate and ignorance have changed radical Islam from a bunch of whackos hiding in the hills the a HUGE international fighting force.  Hate RADICALIZES otherwise good people.  Hate is boiling over across the entire planet.

Here's a homework assignment for you.  Why don't you carry your ass down to Barnes and Noble in the morning and get a book on Islam, or comparative religion.  I don't really care. 

Even better than that, get a book on the Wars that followed the breakup of Yugoslavia in the Balkans.  You will find NO BETTER EXAMPLE of a bunch of IDIOTS figuring out EVERY POSSIBLE REASON to hate and kill eachother.  At least learn enough to realize how STUPID your slurs make you sound.

Whatever you do, get a clue.  Then one day you won't be a pathetic embarrassment to this great nation that calls Muslims "Cave Men" in public chat forums.

  dynamo122

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11/06/09 1:09:55 AM#41

Lol.

Let's dump you off in the middle of Iraq and see how far your compassion gets you.

  User Deleted
11/06/09 1:12:50 AM#42
Originally posted by dynamo122

Lol.

Let's dump you off in the middle of Iraq and see how far your compassion gets you.

 

I'll be there soon enough.

 

You are an ignorant brat, and it DISGUSTS me that you are a fellow American.

  dynamo122

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11/06/09 1:13:58 AM#43
Originally posted by Enkindu
Originally posted by dynamo122

Lol.

Let's dump you off in the middle of Iraq and see how far your compassion gets you.

 

I'll be there soon enough.

 

You are an ignorant brat, and it DISGUSTS me that you are a fellow American.

 

The only thing disgusting here is your compassion for murderers. Fucking idiot.

  User Deleted
11/06/09 1:16:56 AM#44
Originally posted by dynamo122
Originally posted by Enkindu
Originally posted by dynamo122

Lol.

Let's dump you off in the middle of Iraq and see how far your compassion gets you.

 

I'll be there soon enough.

 

You are an ignorant brat, and it DISGUSTS me that you are a fellow American.

 

The only thing disgusting here is your compassion for murderers. Fucking idiot.

You are as blind as you are stupid aren't you. 

  dynamo122

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Joined: 7/17/09
Posts: 165

11/06/09 1:20:15 AM#45
Originally posted by Enkindu
Originally posted by dynamo122
Originally posted by Enkindu
Originally posted by dynamo122

Lol.

Let's dump you off in the middle of Iraq and see how far your compassion gets you.

 

I'll be there soon enough.

 

You are an ignorant brat, and it DISGUSTS me that you are a fellow American.

 

The only thing disgusting here is your compassion for murderers. Fucking idiot.

You are as blind as you are stupid aren't you. 

 

Are you against the Iraq war?

  User Deleted
11/06/09 1:25:26 AM#46
Originally posted by dynamo122
Originally posted by Enkindu
Originally posted by dynamo122
Originally posted by Enkindu
Originally posted by dynamo122

Lol.

Let's dump you off in the middle of Iraq and see how far your compassion gets you.

 

I'll be there soon enough.

 

You are an ignorant brat, and it DISGUSTS me that you are a fellow American.

 

The only thing disgusting here is your compassion for murderers. Fucking idiot.

You are as blind as you are stupid aren't you. 

 

Are you against the Iraq war?

 

You really can't even read can you.  Read up a few lines and maybe you'll figure it out.

I love my country.  Even if some of the people in it shame the ideals upon which it was founded.

  dynamo122

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Posts: 165

11/06/09 1:49:05 AM#47
Originally posted by Enkindu
Originally posted by dynamo122
Originally posted by Enkindu
Originally posted by dynamo122
Originally posted by Enkindu
Originally posted by dynamo122

Lol.

Let's dump you off in the middle of Iraq and see how far your compassion gets you.

 

I'll be there soon enough.

 

You are an ignorant brat, and it DISGUSTS me that you are a fellow American.

 

The only thing disgusting here is your compassion for murderers. Fucking idiot.

You are as blind as you are stupid aren't you. 

 

Are you against the Iraq war?

 

You really can't even read can you.  Read up a few lines and maybe you'll figure it out.

I love my country.  Even if some of the people in it shame the ideals upon which it was founded.

Sure doesn't seem like it.

So then you agree that retaliation on the islamic nut cases was necessary. Good.

Because if we didn't and showed the kind of compassion you're expressing here would make our country look weak and vulnerable and would open up the doors of all kinds of shit fests. It would be an invitation so to speak.

I hate them out of self defense and they hate me because they view me as an 'infidel'. You have to understand that you can't reason with these people. We've tried methods like you've proposed, non-violent ones, but it's not working and will not work. Their only hope is to change their holy bible 'The Qu'ran." Because right now that's the source of all the problems, coupled with racism. And I can almost guarantee you it won't happen.

So then our only hope right now is to defend our selves with violence (war).  Or become isolationist, which would be economic suicide.

And you know what? I hate them for it. Maybe when Obamas pussy ass pulls us out of there we can spend that tax money on NASAs second earth program so we can load up these animals and send them off to another planet so they can kill each other off into extinction.

Good riddance.

 

  qazyman

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11/06/09 7:13:38 AM#48
Originally posted by dynamo122
Originally posted by Enkindu
Originally posted by dynamo122
Originally posted by Enkindu
Originally posted by dynamo122
Originally posted by Enkindu
Originally posted by dynamo122

Lol.

Let's dump you off in the middle of Iraq and see how far your compassion gets you.

 

I'll be there soon enough.

 

You are an ignorant brat, and it DISGUSTS me that you are a fellow American.

 

The only thing disgusting here is your compassion for murderers. Fucking idiot.

You are as blind as you are stupid aren't you. 

 

Are you against the Iraq war?

 

You really can't even read can you.  Read up a few lines and maybe you'll figure it out.

I love my country.  Even if some of the people in it shame the ideals upon which it was founded.

Sure doesn't seem like it.

So then you agree that retaliation on the islamic nut cases was necessary. Good.

Because if we didn't and showed the kind of compassion you're expressing here would make our country look weak and vulnerable and would open up the doors of all kinds of shit fests. It would be an invitation so to speak.

I hate them out of self defense and they hate me because they view me as an 'infidel'. You have to understand that you can't reason with these people. We've tried methods like you've proposed, non-violent ones, but it's not working and will not work. Their only hope is to change their holy bible 'The Qu'ran." Because right now that's the source of all the problems, coupled with racism. And I can almost guarantee you it won't happen.

So then our only hope right now is to defend our selves with violence (war).  Or become isolationist, which would be economic suicide.

And you know what? I hate them for it. Maybe when Obamas pussy ass pulls us out of there we can spend that tax money on NASAs second earth program so we can load up these animals and send them off to another planet so they can kill each other off into extinction.

Good riddance.

 


 

Dude you really need help.....Seriously!  Read that shit you just wrote and then try to activate a few brain cells to understand how sad it is.

Back on Topic,

I was living in Waco when David Koresh went crazy, and in Killeen in 91 when that guy whacked out in the luby's. Today I was in Austin and it's just so tragic and hard to understand. I really don't understand why things like this seem to happen. It would be easy to blame this on something far away and maybe that's the case, but as someone who has seen these events reoccur you have to ask why.

To be honest, I know that Central Texas is not filled with the best and brightest our nation has to offer, and the real truth is Fort Hood has always been a pretty disgusting sponge for Government money in the area. Still, the whole area is almost nothing but good decent hard working people. It just makes no sense.

  User Deleted
11/06/09 9:44:05 AM#49

We had a guy blow his own finger off just before we went for pre-deployment training (what Ft. Hood is... but we went to Camp Shelby, MS). Then we got to Iraq and it was completely dead, to the point where we were doing stupid stuff just in hopes something would happen so we could break the monotony of it all.

People do some stupid stuff not to go, I'm just surprised it was a MAJ that did it. It still boils down the fact that he was nothing but a coward and that caused him to lose his mind. Just because he was hurt in the process of being a coward, doesn't make him any less of a coward. (See the first sentence of my post)

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11/06/09 9:54:05 AM#50
Originally posted by Enkindu
Originally posted by dynamo122
Originally posted by Enkindu
Originally posted by dynamo122
Originally posted by Enkindu
Originally posted by dynamo122

Lol.

Let's dump you off in the middle of Iraq and see how far your compassion gets you.

 

I'll be there soon enough.

 

You are an ignorant brat, and it DISGUSTS me that you are a fellow American.

 

The only thing disgusting here is your compassion for murderers. Fucking idiot.

You are as blind as you are stupid aren't you. 

 

Are you against the Iraq war?

 

You really can't even read can you.  Read up a few lines and maybe you'll figure it out.

I love my country.  Even if some of the people in it shame the ideals upon which it was founded.


 

Enkindu...let's go over this again...""breath"..."breath"...repeat after me.   "I will not respond to post when a poster post something that no rational person would post because clearly the poster is one can short of a Pabst six pack.   And being that it is Pabst...that says enough right there."

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