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How BLIND fans can be? It shows on Xfire that Aion has LOST 60% of the playing time and 50% of its players in the LAST 4 weeks. Look at the graphs... http://www.xfire.com/games/aion/Aion/ Coming from ... 81611 total on Oct 1st ... D O W N ... to ...33002 on Nov 4th. That'sa 60% drop off coming out of a sample of 14K and now 7K XfireAion users.
And STILL people D R E A M that this game has 700K players right now. What a laugh.... Of course the 14NA and 18 EU servers are no longer full. 50% drops in players means simply 400 to 500K/2 that it had at the launching week .... = 250 K actual player are less than EVE at the moment. The greatest joke was the guy above who spoke about 15% concrrent users, while NCSOft themselves in their state of the game speech spoke of 60% concurrent users. Look at the number of servers and you know exactly this game doesn't grow anymore. It simply lost players EN MASSE. |
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Some of the % could have been from people like myself that no longer use xfire while playing aion because the less latency you have the better specially in the abyss were you need to be 100% focused. Ever thought about that or your blind when someone says something against your "facts"?
Plus I can bet all the money I got in bank that less then 50% of the whole population uses xfire while playing aion don't be stupid and assume 500k or whatever is the whole population uses it.
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Originally posted by Zorndorf You need to stop smoking that x-fire crack. Currently playing: Aion Played: L2 RFO EvE R.O.S.E EQ2 HellGate:London TRIBES2 WOW WarHammer |
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Originally posted by bloodaxes
Ask Mark Jacobs just how accurate those Xfire facts were for WAR. The same fans didn't believe the Xfire trends in AoC and WAR either. 3 months later it was all confirmed in the financial reports of course. And .. the servers. Always the servers tell the truth. Aion had 41 Korean servers for 400K users remember, It had 113 Chinese servers to serve 1M Chinese at launch in MAy remember... So NA has ... 14 servers and EU has 18 ... servers and FAR from full these days. So do the count yourself. These ARE "facts". The server numbers confirm the Xfire stats.
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Nvm... It's pointless arguing with you I shouldn't have even posted, you will never learn anyways you keep on saying same shit in every single thread that praises aion so why bother again....
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i really wish people would stop using box sales in MMO's as a success indicator. We've all been there before, the over hyped game *cough* AOC and War *cough* that has sold XXX, 000 copies in the first week of release only to loose over 50% of its sub base after the free month has expired.
So yeah, its nice that Aion has made some money back (box sales are pretty much there to give the investors some money back for helping to fund the game) but its long term subs that we really should care about. Originally posted by Cyborg99 |
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Originally posted by bloodaxes
Because the stats are right before your eyes and you can't counter - the very limited number of servers for Aion West. - the Xfire stats showing a 50% player drop - coming from a whopping sample of 14K Aion users. It proves Aion is just the new bomb (like AoC and War). Nothing more nothing less. The real test will come if they will hold out at 150K subs within 3 months. But now they clearly are around 250K subs max. As SHOULD be for a Korean copycat. |
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Originally posted by Zorndorf
If it did lose players EN MASSE as you say, server I played on hasn't felt it. It is full of players and the server density didn't change at all. It is always Full at peak times and Recommended at other times, just like one of the most populated WoW servers Kazaak used to be. In fact I see people at off-peak hours on Gorgos more than I used to see on Kazaak ^^. Understandable however, seeing as the kids are usually asleep/ at preschool/school. But you wouldn't know, would you, fiddling with Xfire numbers trying to prove that "AION FAILS" with every little bit of energy you have. You come across as a sad, sad human being tbph. Pathetic. |
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I just canceled my account actually, but it is quite a fun game. I would like to say that the numbers and clusters of people gradually decline as you progress up in level past 25 and early abyss. The early levels are absolutely packed though, but it's the higher level gamers who will stay. I simply didn't stay because the general player base was a bit juvenile. It's weird playing in a group with seven-year-olds who have to take breaks every thirty minutes because their parents want them to get ready for bed. |
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Kyleran
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Sales figures are interesting (though unsubstantiated) but largely irrelevant. While the sales numbers might have to be estimated, the subscription numbers are known to NCSoft and they aren't publishing them. Usually means they are nothing to be proud of.
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Originally posted by Electriceye
If it did lose players EN MASSE as you say, server I played on hasn't felt it. It is full of players and the server density didn't change at all. It is always Full at peak times and Recommended at other times, just like one of the most populated WoW servers Kazaak used to be. In fact I see people at off-peak hours on Gorgos more than I used to see on Kazaak ^^. Understandable however, seeing as the kids are usually asleep/ at preschool/school. But you wouldn't know, would you, fiddling with Xfire numbers trying to prove that "AION FAILS" with every little bit of energy you have. You come across as a sad, sad human being tbph. Pathetic. Do you have queuing lines? Nope. Does every server show LOCKED at prime time? Nope. Did they add servers to the rather low number of 14 NA/18 EU? Nope. So it clearly is a sign that the servers are no longer stressed and the max capacity of those servers (200 to 240K) is never reached anymore. ALL in accordance with what the oversampled samples of Xfire shows. 50% players just left. A 24/7 on line sample base of 14K users is WAY to BIG. (on line samples 24/7 of 1K users is MORE than enough to have valuable working data). Get over it, Aion was surpassed by EVE as second most played subscription based MMORPG in the west. ... only 4 weeks after it launched. So their target was missed.
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Originally posted by Zorndorf Do you have queuing lines? Nope. Does every server show LOCKED at prime time? Nope. Did they add servers to the rather low number of 14 NA/18 EU? Nope. So it clearly is a sign that the servers are no longer stressed and the max capacity of those servers (200 to 240K) is never reached anymore. ALL in accordance with what the oversampled samples of Xfire shows. 50% players just left. A 24/7 on line sample base of 14K users is WAY to BIG. (on line samples 24/7 of 1K users is MORE than enough to have valuable working data). Get over it, Aion was surpassed by EVE as second most played subscription based MMORPG in the west.
Im sorry but you're not making any sense
You realize the queue's were fixed after the FIRST week - and yes - people STILL logged in at that point. So your argument is completely invalid.
You'll come back with another snarky comment to make yourself look foolish - so for the meantime I'll wait. Oh and btw - EVE is a great game - but numbers are showing Aion has more traffic right now. Not taking anything away from EVE.
In short - try harder |
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Originally posted by Zorndorf Do you have queuing lines? Nope. Does every server show LOCKED at prime time? Nope. Did they add servers to the rather low number of 14 NA/18 EU? Nope. So it clearly is a sign that the servers are no longer stressed and the max capacity of those servers (200 to 240K) is never reached anymore. ALL in accordance with what the oversampled samples of Xfire shows. 50% players just left. A 24/7 on line sample base of 14K users is WAY to BIG. (on line samples 24/7 of 1K users is MORE than enough to have valuable working data).
Having no queues or locked servers is good. And as I already said, it does not feel like there is any mass exodus until now, so server population must not be that far off cap. Also, you need to realize that they have upped the capacity of players a server can hold. Queues sucked at launch, but it was NOT because the server capacity was reached, it had more to do with the massive number of players in the early zones. The more players got into the next zones, the more people were able to log in and play. Sure some people might have quit because they found the game boring or whatever, but until now, from where I stand, there hasn't been mass quittings at all. |
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Originally posted by Cammy Aion is SOLD through Xfire. Meaning every copy sold through Xfire has that program installed. EVE, Lotro and WOW are NOT sold through Xfire. meaning that 4th position is MEANINGLESS. Aion had at launch 5 times the number of Xfire players as EVE. Meaning it had ... 1.500.000 western players IF, IF those samples were representative. They weren't because of NCsoft marketing the game through Xfire. BUT ... IN the game trends you now see a 60% DROP of Aion on Xfire. It shows the game bombs (and a BIG bomb if you ask me). http://www.xfire.com/games/aion/Aion/ Try harder. |
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For gods sake there are no mods here that can shut his mouth for a week or 2 this nonsense has been spread everyday and nothing has happened to this wow lover. Even if xfire is installed with aion YOU CAN PLAY WITHOUT IT CAN'T YOU UNDERSTAND?!
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lol been out over a year, and the quests almost stop at lvl 40, how pathetic.....they are talking about free month subs too....lots of people seem to be jumping ship on this game. Sad I had high hopes for it, turns out to be L2 with wings and more bots. I have played EVERY MMO |
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not a big fan of aion in fact i canceled my sub but i will say this if xfire is being installed i have yet to see when or how i have the game installed atm and no xfire no reference to xfire nothing sooo.. i dont get where that is coming from
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Just 700K? For the WoW killer? |
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Originally posted by ste2000
Were did you read ncsoft saying aion will be a wow killer please show me? they only stated that it could be the 2nd most popular.
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Originally posted by ste2000 The WoW killer? Only deluded players ever thought that. And nope, For Aion to sell that many copies is actually kinda impressive. "There are a few facts to consider: 1. Eastern MMOs are not popular at all in the West. In fact a lot of people in NA/EU actually HATE (yes, hate a game) them. From the art style, to the grind, private shops, etc. So considering those factors, for Aion to still be able to sell 700k is extremely good."
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Originally posted by Electriceye Yeah, you mean practically every single person on this forum with anything in their sig related to anime or winged ballerinas? Those the deluded players you referring to..? This site was a literal sh*t-storm of pro-aion fanboyism...right up until launch. Then it died off. Hell, only reason I'm even commenting now is to bump this thread up is because I find this thread amusing, and seeing that two RMT vanity pets in WoW have completely eclipsed all discussion about other games, including Aion. If that isn't rather telling, I don't know what is. |
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Originally posted by Eben Yeah, you mean practically every single person on this forum with anything in their sig related to anime or winged ballerinas? Those the deluded players you referring to..?
My sig is related to anime and I never spouted such nonsense. The few that did, yep they were definitely not thinking clearly.
BTW Weren't you the guy whose sig used to say: "ANIME SUCKS BECAUSE IT SUCKS"? Off topic, but what did animes ever do to you for such hatred to be born within you towards some cartoon episodes lol. Your posts are always extremely biased and a lot of them (this for example), is just hate-related because the game has an Eastern look to it. Grow up tbh. |
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Originally posted by bloodaxes
Were did you read ncsoft saying aion will be a wow killer please show me? they only stated that it could be the 2nd most popular.
Everyone except NCSoft was saying that |
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Originally posted by Electriceye
IIRC, your avatar is from Naruto, correct? As for my cartoon hatred...there is none, other than it's been a great source of annoyance for me. A more appropriate saying would have been 'Anime sucks because its' fans suck'. Not all, but most. And yes, I am biased, and each of them are based on personal experiences. Don't worry though, my best friend is Korean, so it's not a racial thing. I dislike anything that starts genuine and becomes over-saturated and shallow. Sorta how I feel about MMOs right now, actually. |
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Originally posted by Zorndorf Do you have queuing lines? Nope. Does every server show LOCKED at prime time? Nope. Did they add servers to the rather low number of 14 NA/18 EU? Nope. So it clearly is a sign that the servers are no longer stressed and the max capacity of those servers (200 to 240K) is never reached anymore. ALL in accordance with what the oversampled samples of Xfire shows. 50% players just left. A 24/7 on line sample base of 14K users is WAY to BIG. (on line samples 24/7 of 1K users is MORE than enough to have valuable working data). Get over it, Aion was surpassed by EVE as second most played subscription based MMORPG in the west. ... only 4 weeks after it launched. So their target was missed.
Ok, ok. Calm down. Aion is dying and they dropped the ball. You've been heard and you're right. Satisfied? I hope so. Hate this game now that you've been heard at Aion forums, please. |
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