As you can see, I have been a long time member of this site and I have posted a lot. I have been here for many highs and many lows when it comes to the realm of MMO's. However, this will be my last post and I will be deleting my MMORPG.com account. The ignorance over and the "intellectual dishonesty" (to borrow from Zorndorf's words) surrounding the issue of Blizzard adding a pet store to the game and some proceeds going to make-a-wish is more than enough proof to show me its time to move on. People are more interested in hating Blizzard and proving their own point than understanding the details about the issue. In short, its not worth it anymore to regularly post here because people don't care about honest debate and seeking the truth on a topic, they would rather argue for the sake of arguing.

The community morale and feeling has plummeted. Now everyone is a fanboi or a hater and the focus isn't about MMO's but about people's reactions to them. You cannot post about anything without getting verbally attacked and insulted from either or both sides. Most people do not want to listen to logic and honest, truthful information....they all want to put their personal spin on stuff. So when posters attempt to provide useful information (like Coffee for example), the information gets lost in the tirade of blind hate and ignorance. Respect for the poster themself has gone out the window.

The reason I post here is that I frequented this forum quite a bit and got to know many posters in it. WOW is my game of choice and will continue to be until a time when I see fit to no longer play it. Call me a fanboi if you want...that is fine because I am a FAN of the game.

Good luck to all, enjoy your MMO travels and best wishes.

Templarga

lol delete the wow account fool:) there the ones wripping you off and it is only the beginning..

bobm111

What do you expect? wow fans can bash any game they want and others can't?

Noooooo one our brothers have fallen in battle... now its just me and Zorndorf left.

Actually it's just you. Zorndorf is more of an xfire promoter than a WoW fan.

As for the OP, I hope you realise that RMT shops are not popular. All P2P companies that tried to force that model down people's throats received a considerable amount of heat for their effort. What made you think that Blizzard is somehow special and they can shovel RMT our way and we would graciously accept it because they make great games? Some people can turn a blind eye, but others won't.

Originally posted by coffee

Noooooo one our brothers have fallen in battle... now its just me and Zorndorf left.

You know that most of the flames on wow in this site come because of zorndorf right?

I think its kinda funny, and sad that the reasons he list for leaving, are what most the replies are, just blind hate.

actually not i really mean that its blizz that is the problem and he is pointing the gun in the wrong direction..

Thus being foolish..

bobm111

It's a shame, one of the few posters that I deemed worthy of using the frontal lobe has been driven away by the sheer buffoonery of the low-brow thinkers. Oh well, I will continue to carry the baton along with the few who actually understand the complexities involved in a ever-changing genre.

I just hope that more rational posters are born from the influx of new MMO gamers born since Nov, 23 2004. I can't be the only optimistic intellectual out there...

RIP Temp

hehe pwned by forums!

I won't mention how this pokemon pixellated mess and polished turd was an horrible experience to me but about greed, integrity and Blizzard :

Their desperate way they try to get any buck they can , this secure account thing could be free i'm sure, the paid pve to pvp server transfer 4 days before Warhammer launch (after they repeated for many years that wouldn't feel right to do so, talk about integrity and trust). And now the item shop meaning players will have stuff according to an extra fee, not to the general subscription. As if they needed the money ; as if they couldn't give to charity some bucks from the billions they make if they are so caring, as if they couldn't give 100 % of this extra fee to charity. This behavior is disgusting and pathetic.

I won't list all paid services they offer, it's too long but I think if you paid their game and expansions and so many subscription months they should grant you at least a free transfer, a free name change, etc, by account, even reduce a bit your subscription fee if you were a faithful client for a long time. Blizzard is rolling for greed everytime.

Need i mention the bot players in Alterac for months without Blizzard doing anything, invisible game masters or that were never hired, never stopped gold spamming for months on /2., rude and offensive general chats, persistent off-topic channel use, lack of knowledge of the game by GMs? I had this bad experience of a guy hacking our guild chat and speaking through our nicks and throwing insults, so i complained to a GM and received an automated answer 3 hours later telling me general bullshit and not recognizing/knowing that this hack exists. I asked like 4 things in my WoW playtime, everytime i received some hours later automated answers full of bullshit or refering me to the forums. So you get those kids chatting for ages in SMS style about rape and porno stuff in Stormwind and no GM ever is here telling them to stop.

Where the heck is all the sub money going, can't you hire real decent game masters? Was I not paying for a quality of service too?

Special award goes to RP rules that were never enforced on dedicated servers (who could ever RP in the WoW universe anyway, with copied "lore" popping out of the ground to sell more books and justify expansions), with lots of retards spoiling in any way the basics of RP you would try to create. I guess here too they couldn't spend our sub money to implement their own rules by hiring game masters and policing chat channels?

So now, before another victimized drama queen leaves the forum (he must have alts already anyway) let's make things clear : Blizzard has only customers now, not players. Blizzard is ruled by its shareholders who don't give a f**k about games and integrity as long as it brings more money (and fanbois even admit that it's a firm and should act as one!!!).

So don't expect anything good from players and forum users who still think a game should be more than ripping off players.

Can understand why you deleted your mmorpg account. just looke at what this site ghouls had to do with a good thing in wow. freaking awsome and quite sad.

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/258246/WoW-pet-hes-gorgeous.html

Originally posted by Ramonski7

It's a shame, one of the few posters that I deemed worthy of using the frontal lobe has been driven away by the sheer buffoonery of the low-brow thinkers. Oh well, I will continue to carry the baton along with the few who actually understand the complexities involved in a ever-changing genre.

 

I just hope that more rational posters are born from the influx of new MMO gamers born since Nov, 23 2004. I can't be the only optimistic intellectual out there...

 

RIP Temp

Couldn't have said it better Rom.  Sorry to see you go Temp and hope you reconsider.

Originally posted by Deleted User

As you can see, I have been a long time member of this site and I have posted a lot. I have been here for many highs and many lows when it comes to the realm of MMO's. However, this will be my last post and I will be deleting my MMORPG.com account. The ignorance over and the "intellectual dishonesty" (to borrow from Zorndorf's words) surrounding the issue of Blizzard adding a pet store to the game and some proceeds going to make-a-wish is more than enough proof to show me its time to move on. People are more interested in hating Blizzard and proving their own point than understanding the details about the issue. In short, its not worth it anymore to regularly post here because people don't care about honest debate and seeking the truth on a topic, they would rather argue for the sake of arguing.

The community morale and feeling has plummeted. Now everyone is a fanboi or a hater and the focus isn't about MMO's but about people's reactions to them. You cannot post about anything without getting verbally attacked and insulted from either or both sides. Most people do not want to listen to logic and honest, truthful information....they all want to put their personal spin on stuff. So when posters attempt to provide useful information (like Coffee for example), the information gets lost in the tirade of blind hate and ignorance. Respect for the poster themself has gone out the window.

The reason I post here is that I frequented this forum quite a bit and got to know many posters in it. WOW is my game of choice and will continue to be until a time when I see fit to no longer play it. Call me a fanboi if you want...that is fine because I am a FAN of the game.

Good luck to all, enjoy your MMO travels and best wishes.

Templarga

This post made me think a lot about how and what I post.

I believe I am very unbiased in my posts, with solid points being raised, however I will be more cosistant with this.

I hope positivity and good 'honest debate' can flourish from the loss of someone who clearly loves this genre losing the will to discuss it here.  I am new to the forums and I hope to help build a more positive arena of thought and ideas.

Originally posted by bloodaxes

What do you expect? wow fans can bash any game they want and others can't?

People bash WoW more then WoW players bash other games.  just saying.

Originally posted by MyPreciousss

hehe pwned by forums!

I won't mention how this pokemon pixellated mess and polished turd was an horrible experience to me but about greed, integrity and Blizzard :

Their desperate way they try to get any buck they can , this secure account thing could be free i'm sure, the paid pve to pvp server transfer 4 days before Warhammer launch (after they repeated for many years that wouldn't feel right to do so, talk about integrity and trust). And now the item shop meaning players will have stuff according to an extra fee, not to the general subscription. As if they needed the money ; as if they couldn't give to charity some bucks from the billions they make if they are so caring, as if they couldn't give 100 % of this extra fee to charity. This behavior is disgusting and pathetic.

I won't list all paid services they offer, it's too long but I think if you paid their game and expansions and so many subscription months they should grant you at least a free transfer, a free name change, etc, by account, even reduce a bit your subscription fee if you were a faithful client for a long time. Blizzard is rolling for greed everytime.

Need i mention the bot players in Alterac for months without Blizzard doing anything, invisible game masters or that were never hired, never stopped gold spamming for months on /2., rude and offensive general chats, persistent off-topic channel use, lack of knowledge of the game by GMs? I had this bad experience of a guy hacking our guild chat and speaking through our nicks and throwing insults, so i complained to a GM and received an automated answer 3 hours later telling me general bullshit and not recognizing/knowing that this hack exists. I asked like 4 things in my WoW playtime, everytime i received some hours later automated answers full of bullshit or refering me to the forums. So you get those kids chatting for ages in SMS style about rape and porno stuff in Stormwind and no GM ever is here telling them to stop.

Where the heck is all the sub money going, can't you hire real decent game masters? Was I not paying for a quality of service too?

Special award goes to RP rules that were never enforced on dedicated servers (who could ever RP in the WoW universe anyway, with copied "lore" popping out of the ground to sell more books and justify expansions), with lots of retards spoiling in any way the basics of RP you would try to create. I guess here too they couldn't spend our sub money to implement their own rules by hiring game masters and policing chat channels?

So now, before another victimized drama queen leaves the forum (he must have alts already anyway) let's make things clear : Blizzard has only customers now, not players. Blizzard is ruled by its shareholders who don't give a f**k about games and integrity as long as it brings more money (and fanbois even admit that it's a firm and should act as one!!!).

So don't expect anything good from players and forum users who still think a game should be more than ripping off players.

 

 

Man so much written and yet its all rubbish, this poster has always hated on WoW.  i'm still trying to find out what psychological damage blizzard inflicted on them to cause them to be this way.

Originally posted by Scalebane

Originally posted by bloodaxes

What do you expect? wow fans can bash any game they want and others can't?

People bash WoW more then WoW players bash other games.  just saying.

If you think so, by checking ever single game around I always find someone saying "meh another wow clone" or "wow is still better then this" so who starts the flames?

Originally posted by Scalebane

Originally posted by MyPreciousss

hehe pwned by forums!

I won't mention how this pokemon pixellated mess and polished turd was an horrible experience to me but about greed, integrity and Blizzard :

Their desperate way they try to get any buck they can , this secure account thing could be free i'm sure, the paid pve to pvp server transfer 4 days before Warhammer launch (after they repeated for many years that wouldn't feel right to do so, talk about integrity and trust). And now the item shop meaning players will have stuff according to an extra fee, not to the general subscription. As if they needed the money ; as if they couldn't give to charity some bucks from the billions they make if they are so caring, as if they couldn't give 100 % of this extra fee to charity. This behavior is disgusting and pathetic.

I won't list all paid services they offer, it's too long but I think if you paid their game and expansions and so many subscription months they should grant you at least a free transfer, a free name change, etc, by account, even reduce a bit your subscription fee if you were a faithful client for a long time. Blizzard is rolling for greed everytime.

Need i mention the bot players in Alterac for months without Blizzard doing anything, invisible game masters or that were never hired, never stopped gold spamming for months on /2., rude and offensive general chats, persistent off-topic channel use, lack of knowledge of the game by GMs? I had this bad experience of a guy hacking our guild chat and speaking through our nicks and throwing insults, so i complained to a GM and received an automated answer 3 hours later telling me general bullshit and not recognizing/knowing that this hack exists. I asked like 4 things in my WoW playtime, everytime i received some hours later automated answers full of bullshit or refering me to the forums. So you get those kids chatting for ages in SMS style about rape and porno stuff in Stormwind and no GM ever is here telling them to stop.

Where the heck is all the sub money going, can't you hire real decent game masters? Was I not paying for a quality of service too?

Special award goes to RP rules that were never enforced on dedicated servers (who could ever RP in the WoW universe anyway, with copied "lore" popping out of the ground to sell more books and justify expansions), with lots of retards spoiling in any way the basics of RP you would try to create. I guess here too they couldn't spend our sub money to implement their own rules by hiring game masters and policing chat channels?

So now, before another victimized drama queen leaves the forum (he must have alts already anyway) let's make things clear : Blizzard has only customers now, not players. Blizzard is ruled by its shareholders who don't give a f**k about games and integrity as long as it brings more money (and fanbois even admit that it's a firm and should act as one!!!).

So don't expect anything good from players and forum users who still think a game should be more than ripping off players.

 

 

Man so much written and yet its all rubbish, this poster has always hated on WoW.  i'm still trying to find out what psychological damage blizzard inflicted on them to cause them to be this way.

I hate to post short posts, but I had to in this case...

LOL! When you find out let me know Scalebane!

I have never liked WoW personally but that is not and never has been a reason to bash on it just to bash on it. If you don't like it do as I did and just move on to a game that does capture your interest :)

I like to think of these little wars as being similar to Football. I love Football (American Football) but can not stand Soccer(Futbol). Now does this mean I should go to a Soccer game and start calling them all n00bs for not playing "Real" Football (American)? To some of you this may sound like fun.... but you are also the same people that do the equivalent here. 

OP: Your posts have always been well written and you will be missed within the forums!

P.S. The "Real" Football comment was to make a point, not saying that it is the "Real" Football :)

The old saying applies to message boards, forums, blogs...etc

Opinions are like A$$holes, Everyone has one...

Message boards, Forums, blogs...etc are the toilet paper that wipe that A$$.

I am sorry to see someone leave a forum because of the pathetic responses.  The mentality of a lot of responders is very limited, I know that I myself have responded a few times in not so curtious of manor to some posts.  I know some people have not responded positivlely to some of my posts, but such is the life on a forum.  You must have a thick skin and be able to sort through all the "Toilet paper" to find the intellectual responses that you were looking for.  Is it right that people no longer really talk about an MMORPG, and instead turn every discussion into a flame war?  I don't think so but they have there right to talk just like you or I.  Good for you about liking WOW, I played it for a long time about 2 years or something, I loved the game at first.  The world was great it was like playing a story book but that is where it ended for me.  The depth just wasn't there and neither was the sandbox feel, but I don't expect you to quit because of my personal opinion on it.  I just expect that if I say something like this we can talk about it calmly and maybe I can open your eyes to something you over look or maybe you can open my eyes to something that I have over looked.  Either way I am not a hater or a Fanboi, I am just putting my opinion out there for you to read and take with a grain of salt or not.

Sorry to see you go.

Originally posted by bloodaxes

Originally posted by Scalebane

Originally posted by bloodaxes

What do you expect? wow fans can bash any game they want and others can't?

People bash WoW more then WoW players bash other games.  just saying.

If you think so, by checking ever single game around I always find someone saying "meh another wow clone" or "wow is still better then this" so who starts the flames?

How is giving your opinion that one game is better then the other flaming?  all i see around here is wow sucks, wow killed my wife, wow pee'd on me, wow ruined the world, wow made other devs become bad, wow won't tie my shoe, wow is for unintelligent people, wow = mcdonalds, wow caused the H1N1, wow is the the cause of all problems in the universe.

people start flaming a person because they don't like what they said, so no someone saying wow is better is just an opinion, its the butthurt fanboi's that can't handle someone not liking there new game.

The wow clone thing is stupid and is often said more by people who don't even play wow, they just hate wow so much they can't stand to see a game that is similar to wow.

Originally posted by Scalebane

Originally posted by bloodaxes

Originally posted by Scalebane

Originally posted by bloodaxes

What do you expect? wow fans can bash any game they want and others can't?

People bash WoW more then WoW players bash other games.  just saying.

If you think so, by checking ever single game around I always find someone saying "meh another wow clone" or "wow is still better then this" so who starts the flames?

How is giving your opinion that one game is better then the other flaming?  all i see around here is wow sucks, wow killed my wife, wow pee'd on me, wow ruined the world, wow made other devs become bad, wow won't tie my shoe, wow is for unintelligent people, wow = mcdonalds, wow caused the H1N1, wow is the the cause of all problems in the universe.

people start flaming a person because they don't like what they said, so no someone saying wow is better is just an opinion, its the butthurt fanboi's that can't handle someone not liking there new game.

The wow clone thing is stupid and is often said more by people who don't even play wow, they just hate wow so much they can't stand to see a game that is similar to wow.

I don't talk for those that are considered trolls because if you look at my post count I never went flaming in wow.

An opinion is an opinion I don't mind that it's an opinion after all but don't tell me "meh another wow clone",  "wow is still better then this" or saying that since wow has x subs it means it's the best game in the world is an opinion because it's clear that they want to troll/flame.

Originally posted by Scalebane

  i'm still trying to find out what psychological damage blizzard inflicted on them to cause them to be this way.

damn. that can be my master subject :) no thanks given becuse we are at mmorpg.com :p

Originally posted by Deleted User

As you can see, I have been a long time member of this site and I have posted a lot. I have been here for many highs and many lows when it comes to the realm of MMO's. However, this will be my last post and I will be deleting my MMORPG.com account. The ignorance over and the "intellectual dishonesty" (to borrow from Zorndorf's words) surrounding the issue of Blizzard adding a pet store to the game and some proceeds going to make-a-wish is more than enough proof to show me its time to move on. People are more interested in hating Blizzard and proving their own point than understanding the details about the issue. In short, its not worth it anymore to regularly post here because people don't care about honest debate and seeking the truth on a topic, they would rather argue for the sake of arguing.

The community morale and feeling has plummeted. Now everyone is a fanboi or a hater and the focus isn't about MMO's but about people's reactions to them. You cannot post about anything without getting verbally attacked and insulted from either or both sides. Most people do not want to listen to logic and honest, truthful information....they all want to put their personal spin on stuff. So when posters attempt to provide useful information (like Coffee for example), the information gets lost in the tirade of blind hate and ignorance. Respect for the poster themself has gone out the window.

The reason I post here is that I frequented this forum quite a bit and got to know many posters in it. WOW is my game of choice and will continue to be until a time when I see fit to no longer play it. Call me a fanboi if you want...that is fine because I am a FAN of the game.

Good luck to all, enjoy your MMO travels and best wishes.

Templarga

I wish ALL the money would go to charity.  That would be even better PR (public relations) management.  That part annoys me a little, but best wishes to you.

Not a single "Can I haz your stuffs?" post made at all? that is almost shameful.

I don't see what making a triumph final post about how terrible a site is before deleting your account accomplishes anything at all truthfully? If you feel people are acting folishly them make a debate to prove so on those threads, but it is pretty much sinking to the lowest level to make an "I quits" post like every foolish gamer who thinks doing so on a companies forums will have any effect.

Stay and argue your point, otherwise you are no better.

Deleting your acount because people here are upset that Blizzard is adding RMT in WoW? There are actually people who are honsetly upset about this move by blizzard and think its will have a very negative effect on the MMO industry. I didnt hate WoW... Ive always been a fan of Warcraft and Blizzard, but now Im not sure anymore.

This is just bizare...

Originally posted by Papadam

Deleting your acount because people here are upset that Blizzard is adding RMT in WoW? There are actually people who are honsetly upset about this move by blizzard and think its will have a very negative effect on the MMO industry. I didnt hate WoW... Ive always been a fan of Warcraft and Blizzard, but now Im not sure anymore.

This is just bizare...

Not really, clearly it is a viable method of payment.

Korea and China's gaming communities are many times larger than ours, so it's proof that it works. Whether you like it or not, people will most probably buy items from these shops regardless of how much bitching and whining people do in a forum.