I would gladly spare some money for the make a wich foundation, but its a American thing , so i dont realy care about that, if it were for Swedish kids i would do it, but who cares about Us

Originally posted by econ24

Blizzard has finally done it, lol. It's pretty funny to see them join the cash-shop bandwagon. $10 a pet is INSANE though.

Agree. Despite I love wow and Blizzart to me has the best marketing staf and programmers ... at least to be honest they should give all 10$ to charity.

Actually there is a difference between the trading card game and an ingame item shop. A trading card game is a separate entity from the online game.

The RMT shop is part of the online game. Hence when you subscribe to the online game, you also subscribe to the cash shop.

Bottom line, RMT cash shops in P2P games are bad. Blizzard introduced one, masked as charity, to gauge the potential market. I'm just waiting for them to expand it now. Then the discussion (and your arguments) will be more interesting to hear, especially the part where you'll be trying to excuse Blizzard. It's probably going to be down the same line others followed, ie, it's business and they care about money and it's normal that it's introduced.

I think some of the more pro blizzard people are missing something, and not quite thinking about this. I understand you like the game, love the company whatever...

How about rather than attack the posters who do not like this idea, you try and understand why they don't like it. To call a concern being expressed a slippery slope argument is a full on cop out. What bothers you about someone not liking the idea of MT in their games? Fluff items are where it always begins. When no one speaks up, they move on to selling items. When no one still speaks up they sell dominate items. As well as cheats to make the game easier. Will this happen? WHo knows, I see no reason for those who oppose the idea to stop speaking up, why do you?

Originally posted by Xasapis

Actually there is a difference between the trading card game and an ingame item shop. A trading card game is a separate entity from the online game.

The RMT shop is part of the online game. Hence when you subscribe to the online game, you also subscribe to the cash shop.

Bottom line, RMT cash shops in P2P games are bad. Blizzard introduced one, masked as charity, to gauge the potential market. I'm just waiting for them to expand it now. Then the discussion (and your arguments) will be more interesting to hear, especially the part where you'll be trying to excuse Blizzard. It's probably going to be down the same line others followed, ie, it's business and they care about money and it's normal that it's introduced.

for sure.  And even though other games will do this, people will bitch and moan and scream.  But almighty blizzard can do as they wish.

As I've said. I don't mind the shop.  I like the idea.  I want the perky pug, and I would pay 10 bucks for it.  That's what I like.  Someone might love the little KT thingy.  I doubt the cash shop will catch on for other games like it's about to for wow.  This is going to be a crazy cash thing for blizzard.  They are going to release things like the pets, and make millions more.

Originally posted by Swanea

 

for sure.  And even though other games will do this, people will bitch and moan and scream.  But almighty blizzard can do as they wish.

As I've said. I don't mind the shop.  I like the idea.  I want the perky pug, and I would pay 10 bucks for it.  That's what I like.  Someone might love the little KT thingy.  I doubt the cash shop will catch on for other games like it's about to for wow.  This is going to be a crazy cash thing for blizzard.  They are going to release things like the pets, and make millions more.

I have one item from the CCG, it is the tabard. You need to go to Booty Bay and enter the code to get the vanity item.

No game week  passes without anyone asking, what's that epic tabard? Cool.

My son "bought" in our Warhammer TT shop the famous "I owe you" card. Because he plays a Horde rogue he likes to search out those duels in the game. I think he paid around 50 Euros for it.

Every time he does an individual kill he plants his flag upon his victim 'I owe you".

I find it by far the best vanity item sold outside of the game.

This practice has been going on for years now. The only difference is that you now click on "buy" on Blizzard store instead of "buy" on an ebey seller or to a shop keeper.

BTW: I like some of those OUT of the game puppets too. Illidan sits right on my desk. :)))

As long as the game mechanics are not touched upon there is nothing wrong.

I don't mind the idea, if it were 20 pets to chose. But 2 means everyon ends up having the same, and where is the fun in that??

Originally posted by Ztekan

I would gladly spare some money for the make a wich foundation, but its a American thing , so i dont realy care about that, if it were for Swedish kids i would do it, but who cares about Us the world raper

It might be wise to remember the difference between a country and its people, and the government that *rules* them.

Our young adventures from the <WoW sux0r> guild are waylayed on their way to Tesco's by a hideous beast.

If our adventures dont succeed it will mean the END OF THE WORLD... of warcraft.

Originally posted by coffee

Our young adventures from the <WoW sux0r> guild are waylayed on their way to Tesco's by a hideous beast.

If our adventures dont succeed it will mean the END OF THE WORLD... of warcraft.

Haha, the next was the best from Aion and WAR. XD

by all that is holy and good on this earth, i was seriously thinking about giving cataclysm a try but now this? yeah i just snapped my discs and tossed everything into the garbage. this is indeed a sad day for the MMO genre, nobody likes to admit it but blizzard sets the standard and now every game out there is going to start in with this RMT nonsense. i suddenly find myself even more anxious and wanting a (large flightless bird) to be done so i can play a good MMO in peace without having to worry about some lazy talentless hack with entitlement issues demanding he be given everything even though he only plays on the weekends for an hour.

No one but the WoW haters care.

Blizzard .... are you really Blizzard...

MMMM..

Blizzard is doing a P2P game with F2P type added to it..

They Fooled me with the Paid  Server Change thing  and Change Alliance and the Change Female and Male as well as the Change Race.. i complete didn't add it all up..

I didn't  see this

I have OPENED me EyeS

Blizzard is not the Blizzard it was.. i rembered some comment in Blzzcon 2009..

They have merged with another company was what they said..

So now with no Cover Up in plain site anyone with their eyes open can see

PET STORE

Yes Blizzard has now entered the  same realm as all the F2P games... But they require you to buy their game.

Blizzard is getting the Cake and the Pie with all the toppings...

Blizzard are you gonna make the new Xpac  F2P ? 

if you do i still feel cheated you promised to me a game with monthly fees 14.95  i have paid my fees

since 2004... you ........................ i can't say now what i feel... but i am hurt!!

Originally posted by Horusra

No one but the WoW haters care.

I completely disagree, I care for one and am in no way a wow hater. Blizzard is a trend setter as is SOE to a lesser extent. Adding fluff is acceptable in my opinion, other items are not so bad either. However when we move into the realm of adding epics, cheats or fully leveled characters there's something wrong. Is Blizzard doing that? No, not yet. However, that doesn't mean they won't.  Which at the time being, others already are and even to a greater extent. Some of us do not like this idea, and hope it fails in the long run. Cash shops in f2p is one thing, but on top of a monthly sub I have have a problem with it.

Is this an issue that will keep me from playing a game? No.

That doesn't mean I should not voice my pessimistic view of such systems.

Originally posted by Malickie

Originally posted by Horusra

No one but the WoW haters care.

I completely disagree, I care for one and am in no way a wow hater. Blizzard is a trend setter as is SOE to a lesser extent. Adding fluff is acceptable in my opinion, other items are not so bad either. However when we move into the realm of adding epics, cheats or fully leveled characters there's something wrong. Is Blizzard doing that? No, not yet. However, that doesn't mean they won't.  Which at the time being, others already are and even to a greater extent. Some of us do not like this idea, and hope it fails in the long run. Cash shops in f2p is one thing, but on top of a monthly sub I have have a problem with it.

Is this an issue that will keep me from playing a game? No.

That doesn't mean I should not voice my pessimistic view of such systems.

It won't start as just handing out epics... it'll be "hey, if you spend $5, you can get this key to this dungeon with all of these great things that ONLY people with this key can access!" Or it will be special holiday "gift" boxes that when opened have various things in them. There will be costumes. And then it'll lead to heirloom BoA weapons that Blizz claims "doesn't affect the end-game and just helps people level up faster and better."

Basically all the excuses the free to play games use because... that's the only way they can make money. But the "things you pay for that don't affect the end-game" in a pay MMO? Yeah, not buying it.

Pets used to be special event rewards or quest chain rewards or gifts for buying a collector's edition.

I don't understand why Blizzard would toss a shop in the game and charge 10 bucks for a damn mini pet.

What's next mounts? social clothing like special dresses and tuxedoes? Masks?

Blizzard doesn't need to do something like this.

I will not play any game that sells digital items. I play games to have all items obtained from in game. If you are going to start selling items in game, no matter how trivial it is no longer a game but a online digital store. No, thanks. I was all ready to buy and play the new expansion but now World of Warcraft just went on my "will not play list". I will go elsewhere and if every online game tries this crap, I will quit all together.

Originally posted by Malickie

Originally posted by Horusra

No one but the WoW haters care.

 

I completely disagree, I care for one and am in no way a wow hater. Blizzard is a trend setter as is SOE to a lesser extent. Adding fluff is acceptable in my opinion, other items are not so bad either. However when we move into the realm of adding epics, cheats or fully leveled characters there's something wrong. Is Blizzard doing that? No, not yet. However, that doesn't mean they won't.  Which at the time being, others already are and even to a greater extent. Some of us do not like this idea, and hope it fails in the long run. Cash shops in f2p is one thing, but on top of a monthly sub I have have a problem with it.

Is this an issue that will keep me from playing a game? No.

That doesn't mean I should not voice my pessimistic view of such systems.

 

I still do not care.  Let people buy what the market will allow.  Does not effect me at all.  Might effect your need to show achievement to others through your button pushing on a game, but for me does not change anything.  I do not find my sense of accomplishment in life from a game.  I play them to entertain myself not show off how long I wasted my time in one.

Originally posted by blackthornn

coming soon*

 

buy a full suit of epix, half the proceeds go to the [insert charity of the month here], a full suit only $200us.

 

(btw, nice to see Bliz jump on the bandwagon after guildwars2 lets a make a wish kid add content to the upcoming game)

 

oh, and half the panda dude's proceeds, not the other purely bliz profit pet :)

Blizzard let a kid for "make a wish" add content, items,quest and NPC to TBC.. so its gildewars jumping on the bandwangon.

Coffee crits Blacktornn for 30,000!

Originally posted by Horusra

Originally posted by Malickie

Originally posted by Horusra

No one but the WoW haters care.

 

I completely disagree, I care for one and am in no way a wow hater. Blizzard is a trend setter as is SOE to a lesser extent. Adding fluff is acceptable in my opinion, other items are not so bad either. However when we move into the realm of adding epics, cheats or fully leveled characters there's something wrong. Is Blizzard doing that? No, not yet. However, that doesn't mean they won't.  Which at the time being, others already are and even to a greater extent. Some of us do not like this idea, and hope it fails in the long run. Cash shops in f2p is one thing, but on top of a monthly sub I have have a problem with it.

Is this an issue that will keep me from playing a game? No.

That doesn't mean I should not voice my pessimistic view of such systems.

 

 

I still do not care.  Let people buy what the market will allow.  Does not effect me at all.  Might effect your need to show achievement to others through your button pushing on a game, but for me does not change anything.  I do not find my sense of accomplishment in life from a game.  I play them to entertain myself not show off how long I wasted my time in one.

I think you're barking up the wrong tree, I haven't stuck with an MMO since SWG was ruined. What is an achievement? In our community we hated "ebayers" it's what I'm used to I guess. The loathed bought jedi especially was a peeve of many players. I don't like the idea of attempting to buy an advantage -edit-, or attemtping to sell one.

Their next step is each time you repair the armour your wearing it's max durability decreased. You need fairy powder to increase the max durability of your armor. Which is $10 for 50.

Originally posted by metalhead980

Pets used to be special event rewards or quest chain rewards or gifts for buying a collector's edition.

I don't understand why Blizzard would toss a shop in the game and charge 10 bucks for a damn mini pet.

What's next mounts? social clothing like special dresses and tuxedoes? Masks?

Blizzard doesn't need to do something like this.

Um, they still are. This dosn't do anything to the pets you can get in game. Its just another option.

Well this is just great. I can hear Richard Aihoshi bashing out the inevitable MMORPG article on 'How great it is WoW has embraced RMT/Cash shops' etc. There will be no living with him now.

If I had a WoW account I'd cancel it, luckily I already did that some time ago.

Hey look a cucumber.

Originally posted by Xasapis

It's a RMT cash shop.

As far as I'm concerned, Blizzard is receiving the same treatment Cryptic received when they introduced their own cash shop.

Yep, tons of money and happy players.