Originally posted by Eben

Originally posted by supbro

Doesnt surprise me WOW has turned its back on its "loyal" money paying subscribers. This game has turned into a glorified Asian cash shop ... doesnt surprise me at all. Whats next in the chash shop i wonder? its a snowball effect that will keep rolling until you wont be able to play the game without cash shop items. It will happen mark my words, blizzard isnt a company that cares about its customers, its all about the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.

Thankfully ill support a non cash game like AION, NCsoft actually cares and it shows in the product they deliver.

 

 

Yeah, they care so much they run their own bots to sell you kinah.  Those swell guys.  Btw, how's Auto Assault, Dungeon Runners and Tabula Rasa doing these days? 

If you don't think it's a matter of time before you can buy new super-duper neato wings for your little ballerina, you're deluding yourself. 

I wouldnt care, as long as i can get pink ones.

As a matter of fact I dont play WoW,. but reading all of these posts and seeing about this think its a good idea.. if you dont like it you don t have to buy the pet or even play WoW... i am sure none of you will be missed...

I guess that sealed the deal. Cataclysm seemed interesting and I was considering returning at that point, but no more. I won't play P2P games with RMT attached.

Originally posted by girlgeek

Originally posted by Simiel

Originally posted by girlgeek

Originally posted by Bolshevikftw

Wait...so a company whose main goal is selling another product....for cash!  Oh god the humanity, why on earth would a corporation EVER want to make money....This is an outrage, I am going to quit WoW over this despite the fact that it will not affect my gameplay at all.  Can you believe they have the nerve to say they are giving 50% of the money from one pet to charity!  What kind of nonsense is that, it isn't as if a million or so people are going to buy it making it a $5,000,000 donation or anything like that, they obviously should disregard their status as a corporation and just give WoW away for free since they have made so much money off of us.  

     This is is a very sad day indeed, WoW is now obviously a microtransaction game since not having these pets will cause my enjoyment of this game to be lessened directly as a result! 

 

 

~Not really disgruntled wow player

 

 

P.S.

I believe we should rename this site to www.wehatewow.com as that would be a more appropriate name

 

Sadly, your sarcasm will be lost on most of the disgruntled ex-WoW players in this thread.  Pity too.  You're damn funny! :)

 

Truth....some people just don't know what to do with it.  I think most of us who have no problem with the pets....have already stated we KNOW they're doing it to make money.  None of us have feigned SHOCK that a business would....zomg noooes...MAKE MONEY!!!  O.O  It's the rest of the posters that find it wrong to make money continually....but I bet a LOT of them are planning on getting Windows 7....

 

It's only okay for SOME corporations to make money.  Others, well....mostly just Blizzard....shouldn't want to DO that naughty thing.

 

Funny too, being if any ONE single person in this thread that is WHINING actually OWNED Blizzard....they wouldn't think making more money would be such a bad thing at all.  Of course....they will all SAY they wouldn't care about such things as money....because none of them will likely ever be in the position TO care about their billions of dollars, now will they?  LMAO  If any of them were billionaires and you told them, "You don't need any more money!  Give your work away for free from now on!"  They would laugh uncontrollably.  But since it's not THEIR money....well now....that's a different story.

 

By the way....your new name for MMORPG.com is spot on.

 

His sarcasm and your sarcasm put together is nowhere as funny as a my pretty accurate depiction of what you would look like in real life.

My point is, trying to make him sound funny make you sound dumb.

I'll start laughing when you reply to this post. I'll see what kind of lame shit you try to make out to be funny. You're obviously trying to defend Blizzard with illogical desperate reasoning.

Do you think a company with million subscribers each of whom giving them 15 dollars a month needs more money than they are already making?

 

Who is illogical and desperate here:

 

The person that is foolish enough to think that a BUSINESS ever quits caring about making money, or the person that recognizes a BUSINESS as just that....a business?

 

Frankly, I don't think I'm the one "looking dumb" here.....

 

If YOU owned Blizzard....I'm sure you would just stop making more money once you hit the what....50 billion dollar mark?  Or...how about a trillion?   Just when is the "cut off point" for when businesses should no longer be allowed to make any more money?  Let's go for a socialist state and set some sort of LIMIT on how much money YOU....yes you....can make at your job.  I think that's a brilliant idea.  Or do limits on the amount of money you can make only apply to corporations?  Do you need to be reminded about a little company called Microsoft?  Now....don't you go and buy Windows 7 because, well....you know, Microsoft ALREADY HAS ENOUGH MONEY.

 

Seriously.  Saying a company "doesn't need any more money," is just ignorant.  If your bills are paid and you have food and shelter....I don't think YOU need any more money either.  But maybe you'd still like to make money for your efforts.  Well...I don't know if you should be able to do that.   Someone should be allowed to determine when YOU have "made enough money."  I nominate ME. 

 

Yup, you've made enough money.  Now, from now on....you can just forward me your paychecks from your work and effort, because....you've made enough money.  I mean....how ridiculous that entire argument is...lol.

See, I was so right.

<<<< genius

lol it's okay, it's blizzard/wow! 

As I said before, the whole race/faction/sex/name/etc/etc changes are an "Item Mall" Shop.  Instead of an ingame item to change how you look, you do it when you log in.  Now you get an actually in game item.  People have said no no, it's cool for wow to do it. But god I would never play "Insert game with RMTs" in them.

I have no problem with RMTs, nor with blizzard doing this.  If people pay, that's their thing.  I know a lot who did pay for the pet.  I just think is is VERY silly that people are perfectly fine with what blizzard is doing, and how, as I have said, are changing it more and more into a normal shop.  Yet other games aren't allowed to have it.

If you guys moped up all your nerd rage drool, then maybe you could donate it to a 3rd world country. Seriously, i would consider thinking about it.

Its really funny to see, how Wow-Fanboys defend the move by blizz to add a item store. The same people judged about SoE having done the same some time ago. Wowers are really brainwashed by the blizz marketing machine...

Originally posted by Isaralas

If you guys moped up all your nerd rage drool, then maybe you could donate it to a 3rd world country. Seriously, i would consider thinking about it.

So why don't you consider writing a $5 dollars check to a charity organization?

The pixel pets magically transformed WoW nerds (who know little about the world around the live in, about who they are even "donating" to) into charitable little baby angels with shining halos, pure white wings, and golden-shined curly hair with beautiful crystal eyes carrying a good as fuck soul, so cute.

Who cares, WoW's such a shit game already.

I quote:

"It's important to note that these pets are strictly vanity pets and serve no combat function whatsoever."

So there is no difference with the "loot" cards you already can find on the CCG for 2 years now OR

the vanity pets or tabards you got when attending BlizzCon.

BTW those CCG and BlizzCon vanity pets and tabards sold for a high as 300 dollars on ebay....

So this system is even known in game since 4 years (BlizzCon) and 2 years in the CCG.

The Idxxxx who jumped in and didn't even READ showed their competence in reading skills and overall intelligence.

Of course because if you are intelligent , ... you play World of Warcraft. :))))

Originally posted by Kilmar

Its really funny to see, how Wow-Fanboys defend the move by blizz to add a item store. The same people judged about SoE having done the same some time ago. Wowers are really brainwashed by the blizz marketing machine...

Except it's just a vanity pet that does nothing that affects gameplay. It's open to be obtained by anyone.

RMT that has no impact on gameplay is not some evil corporation trick to suck money out of everyone. It's capitalism. If you want it, it's there for you to buy.

Too many immature whiners playing MMOs these days, we're really tired of all your anti-fanboy posts about WoW too you know.

I wish Mmorpg.com would stop being some cesspool of WoW-hating rebellious children.

Originally posted by Ranyr

Originally posted by Kilmar

Its really funny to see, how Wow-Fanboys defend the move by blizz to add a item store. The same people judged about SoE having done the same some time ago. Wowers are really brainwashed by the blizz marketing machine...

 

Except it's just a vanity pet that does nothing that affects gameplay. It's open to be obtained by anyone.

RMT that has no impact on gameplay is not some evil corporation trick to suck money out of everyone. It's capitalism. If you want it, it's there for you to buy.

Too many immature whiners playing MMOs these days, we're really tired of all your anti-fanboy posts about WoW too you know.

I wish Mmorpg.com would stop being some cesspool of WoW-hating rebellious children.

Ask yourself ONE question...

This vanity shop issue was out for 1 day (even though it existed already for years through BlizzCon and the CCG...) and MMORPG jumped to it.

HOW many editorials they already made about the new and in game revolution of cross server dungeons ???

I tell you: Z E R O.

It's a RMT cash shop.

As far as I'm concerned, Blizzard is receiving the same treatment Cryptic received when they introduced their own cash shop. Vanity or not, it's extra costs on a P2P service. Mark my words, a couple months from now you'll find just about anything sold in Blizzard cash shop, just the way it happened with SOE and Cryptic.

I know you people love the games this company produce. This however does not excuse such shady actions. Too bad, I was hoping that Blizzard would keep the RMT free castle, I was mistaken.

Don't try and spin it as a mmorg.com vs WoW debate. This same issue was raised with EQ2, when they introduced their cash shop, with Champions Online and now unfortunately with WoW.

We bitched when SoE did it and we bitched when Cryptic did it..

Its sad to see one of the once great companies turn to one of the worst.... seems like the only creativity coming out of Blizzard theese days is to find new ways how to get as much money from their fans as possible.

And its sad to see the WoW fans defend this, it means this is just the beginning :(

What can you expect when you read all those asshat comments from the head of Activision Blizzard?

Do you think that guy cares about the product he sells? He's just converting Blizzard into EA.

Originally posted by Xasapis

What can you expect when you read all those asshat comments from the head of Activision Blizzard?

Do you think that guy cares about the product he sells? He's just converting Blizzard into EA.

Lol, doesn't matter unfortunately. When you have rabid fanbois , you can candy coat pig shit and they'll still buy it.

Originally posted by Xasapis

It's a RMT cash shop.

As far as I'm concerned, Blizzard is receiving the same treatment Cryptic received when they introduced their own cash shop. Vanity or not, it's extra costs on a P2P service. Mark my words, a couple months from now you'll find just about anything sold in Blizzard cash shop, just the way it happened with SOE and Cryptic.

I know you people love the games this company produce. This however does not excuse such shady actions. Too bad, I was hoping that Blizzard would keep the RMT free castle, I was mistaken.

Don't try and spin it as a mmorg.com vs WoW debate. This same issue was raised with EQ2, when they introduced their cash shop, with Champions Online and now unfortunately with WoW.

No it ain't.

And you know VERY well you are again intellectual DISHONEST.

What's the difference between a CARD game loot card "pet"  from the collectable card game you PAY for and the Blizzard pet from BlizzCon you PAY for.

Nothing.

The vanity items go IN and OUT of the game already for 4 to 5 years (2 years for the Card game).

So there was not even a change in policy. Those items have ZERO impact on the game.

BUT: HOW MANY editorials we already saw from IN GAME BREAKTHROUGH mechanics like the new cross server dungeons?

N O T H I NG, Z E RO, NADA.

It shows the overall attitude that REIGNS on mmorpg.com.

And you are ONE of them X, sure is.

It makes mmorpg.com the laughing joke of the web.

So, just because they offered pets via a non ingame source before, it excuses introducing an RTM cash now? I like your "they can't do no wrong no matter what" approach to all things Blizzard, but seriously, this time they crossed a line I hoped they never would. I actually hoped that they would be among the few companies that would promote RMT free P2P games. Too bad I guess.

Did you miss the riot when EQ2 introduced their cash shop?

Did you miss the more recent riot when Champions Online introduced their own shop?

Do you know what these two had in common? They started with pretty "innocent" sales at first, paving the ground for a full blown RMT shop. Blizzard is following the exact same trend. In fact, they mimic EQ2 model to the letter. I guess that other thread that proclaimed SOE as the leader in the MMO business was proven correct. The problem is that we are led to places we'd rather not. Hence the (repeated once more) arguments against RMT shops on P2P games.

Originally posted by MikeB

You heard that right, World of Warcraft just got an in-game (pet) store. The new store is selling two new pets: the Pandaren Monk Charity Pet, and the Lil' K.T., mini-Lich pet. Both pets will sell for $10 a pop, with 50% of the Pandaren Monk's proceeds (for Pandaren Monks sold between now and the end of the year) going to the Make-a-Wish foundation.

It's important to note that these pets are strictly vanity pets and serve no combat function whatsoever.

For additional information on the new service, check out the Pet Store FAQ.

Amazing.  Absolutely amazing.

Thank you Blizzard for giving us who use F2P games some fodder to fire back at the WoW fanboys!

Retail purchase, suscription AND cash shop?  Not only that, it's an expensive cash shop.

I'm glad I'm not paying Blizzard to pay them again in game.

 

It shows the overall attitude that REIGNS on mmorpg.com.

And you are ONE of them X, sure is.

It makes mmorpg.com the laughing joke of the web.

And yet you are here, and with your post count, it seems you fit in rather nicely...wouldn't you agree?!

Originally posted by Zorndorf

Originally posted by Xasapis

It's a RMT cash shop.

As far as I'm concerned, Blizzard is receiving the same treatment Cryptic received when they introduced their own cash shop. Vanity or not, it's extra costs on a P2P service. Mark my words, a couple months from now you'll find just about anything sold in Blizzard cash shop, just the way it happened with SOE and Cryptic.

I know you people love the games this company produce. This however does not excuse such shady actions. Too bad, I was hoping that Blizzard would keep the RMT free castle, I was mistaken.

Don't try and spin it as a mmorg.com vs WoW debate. This same issue was raised with EQ2, when they introduced their cash shop, with Champions Online and now unfortunately with WoW.

 

No it ain't.

And you know VERY well you are again intellectual DISHONEST.

What's the difference between a CARD game loot card "pet"  from the collectable card game you PAY for and the Blizzard pet from BlizzCon you PAY for.

Nothing.

The vanity items go IN and OUT of the game already for 4 to 5 years (2 years for the Card game).

So there was not even a change in policy. Those items have ZERO impact on the game.

 

The card game is its own product and as a bonus you can get in-game pets... That is NOT the same thing as buying that bonus for $10! Its just crazy how they can sell something like that for $10.. Its almost 1 month of subscription for a stupid thing that Blizzard knows alot of people will buy no matter what.

I asked this before but got no answer.. Since WoW already gave you 100+ pets for free, how come they charge you$10 for theese?

Buying the box + expansions + monthly sub doesnt seem to cover fluff items anymore... Whether or not it has an impact on gameplay is irrelevant (or not really since that would be even worse but I guess that the same people would be here defending it).

Originally posted by whisperwynd

 

 

It shows the overall attitude that REIGNS on mmorpg.com.

 

And you are ONE of them X, sure is.

It makes mmorpg.com the laughing joke of the web.

 

And yet you are here, and with your post count, it seems you fit in rather nicely...wouldn't you agree?!

Someone has to make clear for what mmorgp.com stands for.

If you think this site is doing GOOD things about mmorpg's, just look through the forums and editorials.

It is as if these guys live on another PLANET.

So can one explain me WHAT is the difference between a BOUGHT BlizzCon pet of ... 125 dollars and a BOUGHT pet from the CCG at 300 dollars and the new in game pet for ... 10 dollars ????

So this exists already 4 years (meanigless pets you can buy IN and OUT of the game).

Only MMORPG.COM is making an issue out of a non issue that ... exists already for ... 5 years ?

BUT some REAL new techniques like the cross dungeons servers - which is a BUZZ all over the internet - is completly IGNORED by mmorpg.com ...

That's why mmorpg.com is living on another planet and it has ZERO representation concerning mmo's these days.

Their choice of course: BUT I am the one pointing that out.

With FACTS.

 AAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

F U BLIZZARD!!!!

So now you are going to release less pets unless we buy them as luxury micro transaction retail objects? F U F U FU U F'ers!

Give me a game that doesn't want to lull us in then rip us off for every penny we have and then some more! You've lost now Blizz. L O S T !

Originally posted by Papadam

Originally posted by Zorndorf

 

No it ain't.

And you know VERY well you are again intellectual DISHONEST.

What's the difference between a CARD game loot card "pet"  from the collectable card game you PAY for and the Blizzard pet from BlizzCon you PAY for.

Nothing.

The vanity items go IN and OUT of the game already for 4 to 5 years (2 years for the Card game).

So there was not even a change in policy. Those items have ZERO impact on the game.

 

 

The card game is its own product and as a bonus you can get in-game pets... That is NOT the same thing as buying that bonus for $10! Its just crazy how they can sell something like that for $10.. Its almost 1 month of subscription for a stupid thing that Blizzard knows alot of people will buy no matter what.

I asked this before but got no answer.. Since WoW already gave you 100+ pets for free, how come they charge you$10 for theese?

Buying the box + expansions + monthly sub doesnt seem to cover fluff items anymore... Whether or not it has an impact on gameplay is irrelevant (or not really since that would be even worse but I guess that the same people would be here defending it).

 

The only difference is that the card game IS giving you an IN game pet and that in game pet is being traded for as much as 300 dollars on e-bay.

Just like the BLizzCon pets are being traded for hundreds of dollars.

Only now you can buy it directly at 10 dollars with 5 dollars donated for a good cause.

So there is NO difference at all.

The vanity pets serve NOTHING in game. Just like the Card game pets, just like the BlizzCon pets.

Same politics for 5 years now...

Smart asses. first read then write.

Originally posted by Xasapis

So, just because they offered pets via a non ingame source before, it excuses introducing an RTM cash now? I like your "they can't do no wrong no matter what" approach to all things Blizzard, but seriously, this time they crossed a line I hoped they never would. I actually hoped that they would be among the few companies that would promote RMT free P2P games. Too bad I guess.

Did you miss the riot when EQ2 introduced their cash shop?

Did you miss the more recent riot when Champions Online introduced their own shop?

Do you know what these two had in common? They started with pretty "innocent" sales at first, paving the ground for a full blown RMT shop. Blizzard is following the exact same trend. In fact, they mimic EQ2 model to the letter. I guess that other thread that proclaimed SOE as the leader in the MMO business was proven correct. The problem is that we are led to places we'd rather not. Hence the (repeated once more) arguments against RMT shops on P2P games.

So you admit there is NO difference between the previous 125 dollars Blizzcon pets and the pets sold through Ebay from the Card game already for years.

Of course there is no difference: NO in game added value - NO stats or content change - just an extra IN and OUT of the game mechanic (like the puppets they sell).

BUT you are ASSUMING things for the future.

And you say : becaue X did it , now Y will do that also.

No they aren't.

You THINK they will do that. But up until this moment they don't do that.

So YOU LOOSE on the argument of TODAYS facts.

IF you want to complain, you should have complained 5 years ago when they introduced the vanity pets IN and OUT of the game.

Intellectual dishonest.