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airado

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11/04/09 8:35:50 PM#126
Originally posted by guy232

Oh my god...its official  Blizzard is Pimping your qarcraft zombies.   $10 for an "ingame pet".           Oh man  I cant say Ive seen a fail more epic.


 

True that

Wraithone

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If you can't kill it, don't make it mad.

11/04/09 8:47:27 PM#127
Originally posted by MMO_Doubter

Stunning. It's like a surreal farce.

 

Like Bill Gates selling his autograph on a street corner.

 

Blizzard's rep is going to take a beating for the sheer unrepentant greed they are exhibiting these days.

 

No one is being forced to purchase any of whats available... Those are *clearly* listed as VANITY pets. In other words, they serve no purpose in combat what so ever.  Its hardly "greed" to offer such options to those who want it.  Not to mention, I've yet to see anyone provide a non subjective definition of the word "greed". In all too many cases, it translates to "They have more than I do" or "they have more than I believe they should"...

Wraithone

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11/04/09 8:50:45 PM#128
Originally posted by MMO_Doubter
Originally posted by wh0astar

Uh.. how is it a big deal if they have an in-store? It's not a enormous fucking item mall like most asian grinders do.

They do business, make business, profit money.. and that's how the business industry works. If you want to top WoW, then make your own fuckin mmo and be richer then you're entitled to bitch about it here. /eye roll.

Actually we're entitled to bitch about it now.

I DO wonder why you are here defending it, though.

 

Just how are you "entitled"?? Are you being forced to purchase those pets or any of the other *optional* services?  I don't know about the other fellow, but I'm defending it because I believe in freedom within markets. 

Wraithone

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11/04/09 8:53:26 PM#129
Originally posted by Tyrantas

 Blizz has no shame, they sold it lol.

Chances that i am back to wow when cataclysm is out just reduced even more.

 

Well, thats up to you of course. WoW is a good game up to level cap. I have two 80's. I plan to run my 71 and my 70 up to 80 before the expansion is out. To each their own...<shrug>

Wraithone

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11/04/09 9:00:03 PM#130
Originally posted by Slashed316

I miss the blizzard who cared about the games they made not lining there pocketbooks. If you make a good product the money will follow.

 

Would that it was all that simple... These days it takes tens of millions to make AAA titles. Even lower level games take millions and millions.  Your above doesn't fly very well with investors and shareholders.  A "good product" is equal parts good design, implimentation, marketing and branding.  I'm VERY happy that *one* of Blizzards main focus points is money. That means they will have more than sufficient in house funding to make their next game... And the one after that.

Mrbloodworth

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11/04/09 9:02:16 PM#131

look at all the crying over something that doesn't matter.

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Wraithone

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11/04/09 9:03:31 PM#132
Originally posted by tryklon
Originally posted by drajaic

Sometimes the overwhelming sheer stupidity exhibited by the lurkers of this site overwhelm me...

 

Why are you introducing this service?

The Pet Store provides a new way for players to obtain unique companion pets outside of the game, which is something that has been requested by many players who enjoy World of Warcraft's non-combat companions.

 

Does this mean you'll be introducing more services like this in the future? Will you be introducing the ability to buy epic weapons/etc. in the future, for example?

As with the pets, mounts, and other items players can obtain through Loot cards from the World of Warcraft Trading Card Game, Pet Store pets are purely cosmetic and just for fun. Like other paid services we offer, such as Paid Name Changes, Race Changes, and Character Re-Customizations, the Pet Store service is entirely optional and intended to provide players another means to enjoy World of Warcraft in a way that isn't detrimental to the game and that doesn't detract from the gameplay experience for players who choose not to use the service.

Plus...

How much of every Pandaren Monk pet sale will go to charity?

For each Pandaren Monk sale, we'll donate 50% of the $10 purchase price to the Make-A-Wish Foundation. For more information on this charity, visit www.wish.org.

 

Yes, Blizzard is an evil greedy corporation hell bent on world domination through the sale of digital sex changes and non-combat pets. /rolls eyes If you're going to be a troll/game-hater, at least do your homework and not come off as a retarded douchebag.

 

Are you that naive to think their main goal is charity?

Wake up dude, if that was the case they would donate 100% not 50%.... its a stupid minipet why do they need 5 dollars for it?

Its shamefull yes, it shows no character yes, will they expand it with more stuff, definately

 

Are you that ignorant that you think that *any* corporations main goal isn't profit? Giving to charity is a nice touch, no matter what the motivation for it was. It still helps the charity.  Of course *one* of Blizzards main focus points is profit. That IS the nature of the game called business after all.

Isaak

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Posts: 26

11/04/09 9:05:02 PM#133

April fools?

Currently not playing any MMOrpg --
Lvl 80 paladin WoW

girlgeek

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11/04/09 9:05:48 PM#134
Originally posted by wh0astar

Uh.. how is it a big deal if they have an in-store? It's not a enormous fucking item mall like most asian grinders do.

They do business, make business, profit money.. and that's how the business industry works. If you want to top WoW, then make your own fuckin mmo and be richer then you're entitled to bitch about it here. /eye roll.

 

Yup....this ^^^^^^^.

 

Besides....I'M happy. :)  I just bought an ADORABLE pandaran critter, and had the delight of knowing that 5 dollars of the money goes to the Make-a-Wish Foundation, which...just happens to be one of my favorite charities ANYWAY.  w00t!!!

 

People just love to have things to complain about.

 

I'm not even playing WoW atm, and yet....I had to buy that pet...lol!  Soooo....whatever.  I don't honestly care what anyone thinks about WoW. They're making a fortune...good for them.  I get to enjoy their game when I'm in the mood to play it, and if they come up with something cool (like a pet) to buy, that I find entertaining....more power to them and more fun to me.  They got me to log back in to get my pet. Being I hadn't logged in for several weeks now....I'd say that was a successful ploy on their part. :D

 

Think I might just run around Dalaran, throw some stuff up on the AH and throw back some brewskis at the local in game "pub" while I'm there...lol.

 

There are a TON of things I'd like to see them implement in WoW.  There's an entire thread somewhere on that.  I don't want to play every day any more, but FFS....it's JUST A GAME.  A child will die of cancer somewhere tonight....someone will lose their home....other atrocities will happen all over the world....And we're all sitting in our nice safe homes tonight...on the nice internet, with nice electricity....probably enjoying a nice little snack, some coffee....bitchin' about Blizzard making money off of their....business. *sigh*

 

We're all so UTTERLY spoiled.  Games....I mean really.  It just really really ISN'T all that important in the grand scheme of things, IS IT?

 

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After having played most major MMOs on the market, I am presently waiting to see what game developers will do with the genre. In the meantime, I have returned to EQ2 and single player RPGs. I support games of all genres. Every gamer should have a game they truly enjoy.

Wraithone

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Joined: 7/09/04
Posts: 774

If you can't kill it, don't make it mad.

11/04/09 9:09:01 PM#135
Originally posted by MMO_Doubter
Originally posted by drajaic

Sometimes the overwhelming sheer stupidity exhibited by the lurkers of this site overwhelm me...

 

Why are you introducing this service?

The Pet Store provides a new way for players to obtain unique companion pets outside of the game, which is something that has been requested by many players who enjoy World of Warcraft's non-combat companions.

 

Does this mean you'll be introducing more services like this in the future? Will you be introducing the ability to buy epic weapons/etc. in the future, for example?

As with the pets, mounts, and other items players can obtain through Loot cards from the World of Warcraft Trading Card Game, Pet Store pets are purely cosmetic and just for fun. Like other paid services we offer, such as Paid Name Changes, Race Changes, and Character Re-Customizations, the Pet Store service is entirely optional and intended to provide players another means to enjoy World of Warcraft in a way that isn't detrimental to the game and that doesn't detract from the gameplay experience for players who choose not to use the service.

Plus...

How much of every Pandaren Monk pet sale will go to charity?

For each Pandaren Monk sale, we'll donate 50% of the $10 purchase price to the Make-A-Wish Foundation. For more information on this charity, visit www.wish.org.

 

Yes, Blizzard is an evil greedy corporation hell bent on world domination through the sale of digital sex changes and non-combat pets. /rolls eyes If you're going to be a troll/game-hater, at least do your homework and not come off as a retarded douchebag.

Nice homework - a copy & paste from the WoW home site. BFD

If it's about charity - why isn't it BOTH pets, 100%, and not for a limited time?

WoW has made them BILLIONS.

 

So? Its a world wide popular game. No one is forcing anyone to play WoW.  Millions and millions of people pay Blizzard each and every month to play WoW. They have been doing that for 5 years now.  The fact that they CHOSE to donate to a charity means that the charity benefits from money they wouldn't have had other wise. It wouldn't matter if they had made TRILLIONS(like our Dear Leaders extort from the productive here in the US...). Its their money to do with as they see fit.

Drakonus

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Posts: 97

11/04/09 9:09:05 PM#136

whatever...

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Mrbloodworth

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"pleasantly paralyzed"

11/04/09 9:12:07 PM#137

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How are you?" -Me

marinrider

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Posts: 224

11/04/09 9:12:08 PM#138
Originally posted by girlgeek
Originally posted by wh0astar

Uh.. how is it a big deal if they have an in-store? It's not a enormous fucking item mall like most asian grinders do.

They do business, make business, profit money.. and that's how the business industry works. If you want to top WoW, then make your own fuckin mmo and be richer then you're entitled to bitch about it here. /eye roll.

 

Yup....this ^^^^^^^.

 

Besides....I'M happy. :)  I just bought an ADORABLE pandaran critter, and had the delight of knowing that 5 dollars of the money goes to the Make-a-Wish Foundation, which...just happens to be one of my favorite charities ANYWAY.  w00t!!!

 

People just love to have things to complain about.

 

I'm not even playing WoW atm, and yet....I had to buy that pet...lol!  Soooo....whatever.  I don't honestly care what anyone thinks about WoW. They're making a fortune...good for them.  I get to enjoy their game when I'm in the mood to play it, and if they come up with something cool (like a pet) to buy, that I find entertaining....more power to them and more fun to me.  They got me to log back in to get my pet. Being I hadn't logged in for several weeks now....I'd say that was a successful ploy on their part. :D

 

Think I might just run around Dalaran, throw some stuff up on the AH and throw back some brewskis at the local in game "pub" while I'm there...lol.

 

There are a TON of things I'd like to see them implement in WoW.  There's an entire thread somewhere on that.  I don't want to play every day any more, but FFS....it's JUST A GAME.  A child will die of cancer somewhere tonight....someone will lose their home....other atrocities will happen all over the world....And we're all sitting in our nice safe homes tonight...on the nice internet, with nice electricity....probably enjoying a nice little snack, some coffee....bitchin' about Blizzard making money off of their....business. *sigh*

 

We're all so UTTERLY spoiled.  Games....I mean really.  It just really really ISN'T all that important in the grand scheme of things, IS IT?

 

 

Well like you said, its a business, and just because its a game doesnt meant hey dont have to care about their consumers.  Like every other business they need to stick to their promises. 

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Drakonus

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11/04/09 9:12:54 PM#139
Originally posted by Mrbloodworth

look at all the crying over something that doesn't matter.


 

As you can tell from my previous post I agree with you .

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Cavall

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11/04/09 9:35:51 PM#140
Originally posted by coffee

For the people in this thread who are disgusted with this move and PLAY WOW ( doubt any of you do) please cancel your sub giving this as a reason, if enough of you do it then blizzard will re-think it, people power.

Do as above and get on with your life.

 

Done, and done. Bye bye 80 holy paladin, hunter, rogue, death knight, and so on. Hello again, FFXI!

nAAtimus

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11/04/09 9:37:09 PM#141

I'm curious to see how this progresses.

girlgeek

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11/04/09 9:41:33 PM#142
Originally posted by marinrider
Originally posted by girlgeek
Originally posted by wh0astar

Uh.. how is it a big deal if they have an in-store? It's not a enormous fucking item mall like most asian grinders do.

They do business, make business, profit money.. and that's how the business industry works. If you want to top WoW, then make your own fuckin mmo and be richer then you're entitled to bitch about it here. /eye roll.

 

Yup....this ^^^^^^^.

 

......*snipped huge segment where I ramble*......

 

There are a TON of things I'd like to see them implement in WoW.  There's an entire thread somewhere on that.  I don't want to play every day any more, but FFS....it's JUST A GAME.  A child will die of cancer somewhere tonight....someone will lose their home....other atrocities will happen all over the world....And we're all sitting in our nice safe homes tonight...on the nice internet, with nice electricity....probably enjoying a nice little snack, some coffee....bitchin' about Blizzard making money off of their....business. *sigh*

 

We're all so UTTERLY spoiled.  Games....I mean really.  It just really really ISN'T all that important in the grand scheme of things, IS IT?

 

 

Well like you said, its a business, and just because its a game doesnt meant hey dont have to care about their consumers.  Like every other business they need to stick to their promises. 

 

And what is it, exactly, that they "promised" us that wasn't covered in the EULA and ToS as their rights to do as they wish with their intellectual property?  You know....that LONG legal form we READ and SIGNED when we very first started playing WoW 5 years ago....yeah....THAT thing.

So...what did they promise us?

They provide us with entertainment for 15 bucks a month and the price of whichever expansions we choose to buy. They keep the servers running pretty smoothly...they fix bugs...keeping the product functional.  I'm not sure what else it is you think they "promised" us?  O.o

They've tried to listen to the MAJORITY of their consumers and update the game accordingly to the MAJORITY'S wishes.  Just because we don't all fall INTO that majority....well...welcome to Life 101. That's just how things go.  And if we don't like a product....we don't buy it anymore.  Ya know?

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After having played most major MMOs on the market, I am presently waiting to see what game developers will do with the genre. In the meantime, I have returned to EQ2 and single player RPGs. I support games of all genres. Every gamer should have a game they truly enjoy.

girlgeek

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11/04/09 9:49:33 PM#143
Originally posted by Cavall
Originally posted by coffee

For the people in this thread who are disgusted with this move and PLAY WOW ( doubt any of you do) please cancel your sub giving this as a reason, if enough of you do it then blizzard will re-think it, people power.

Do as above and get on with your life.

 

Done, and done. Bye bye 80 holy paladin, hunter, rogue, death knight, and so on. Hello again, FFXI!

 

By all means, have fun and absolutely exercise your right to NOT pay for something you don't like. :)

 

Perhaps if everyone would just do that, if they feel so strongly about something, a change would eventually occur.  However, we all must realize that a business....business, yes....will likely go with the majority of their customer bases' wishes.  So don't be surprised if nothing changes.  That only means you're not in the majority in your way of thinking for THAT PARTICULAR games' player base.  Just means there's another game that would probably "fit" you better anyway.

 

You know....games come and go.  They just DO.  No game is likely to be "THE" game for your LIFE.  I mean really.  We all change. The things we like....and have time for....also change.  LIFE changes.  Why do we expect that games will not also change?

 

I applaud your decision to take a personal stand.  Everyone should do what they feel is best for them personally.  Life is, afterall, just a series of decisions both large and....small.

 

/end philosophical dissertation

 

 

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After having played most major MMOs on the market, I am presently waiting to see what game developers will do with the genre. In the meantime, I have returned to EQ2 and single player RPGs. I support games of all genres. Every gamer should have a game they truly enjoy.

AKABoondock

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Joined: 7/24/09
Posts: 60

11/04/09 9:55:52 PM#144

Everyone is bitching but looking past the fact that 50% of the money will go to the make a wish foundation. If thats true, than I dont mind it. I would like to see one of the other shop games do that.

Danubus

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11/04/09 10:01:22 PM#145

I've only read a bit of this thread, but those freaking out just need to grow up. So what if they add the ability to buy in game pets? Some of the money goes to charity and even if it didn't who cares?  You don't have to purchase anything. It's not like PerfectWorld or some other stupid korean grindfest where you have to buy stuff from there cash shops just to play the game at those levels. This is all for fun.  Either buy it or don't .  I honestly like my pet and I'm glad some of the cash goes to the charity.

girlgeek

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11/04/09 10:04:31 PM#146
Originally posted by AKABoondock

Everyone is bitching but looking past the fact that 50% of the money will go to the make a wish foundation. If thats true, than I dont mind it. I would like to see one of the other shop games do that.

 

And so far as I know....NONE of them DO.

 

But instead of saying, "Oh cool....5 bucks to charity!"  you will see in previous posts people complaining that "it's ONLY 5 bucks, not 100 percent," and "why not BOTH pets?"   *sigh*

 

Like I said....people will look for ANY reason to bitch, and as usual, with WoW....they will only look and POINT OUT the things they don't like and NEVER ever ever give any credit for anything that is good.  That's just the nature of this beast called MMORPG.com.

 

If it's Blizzard....then, by all means, it MUST be BAAAAAAD.  lmao

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BizkitNL

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11/04/09 10:09:56 PM#147
Originally posted by girlgeek

Like I said....people will look for ANY reason to bitch, and as usual, with WoW....they will only look and POINT OUT the things they don't like and NEVER ever ever give any credit for anything that is good.  That's just the nature of this beast called MMORPG.com.


 

Oh god no. That would be.....mainstream! Eww!

ncryan10

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11/04/09 10:16:25 PM#148

I hate to say it but that 5 dollars to charity probably isn't all good hearted either. Blizzard is a business and they need money to grow and make better games. Donating to charity cuts the amount of money they can be taxed on. I play WoW and I really don't care too much about it. I kinda wish there was a way in the game to get it but oh well.


 

chrisrogers

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11/04/09 10:16:45 PM#149
Originally posted by pojung
Originally posted by wh0astar

Wow, you guys are really evil. I don't see how it's insulting to add charity to it. Good for them. It's not their fault they're successful. It's us people that made 'em successful, ever thought about that, hmm? I guess not. You guys are naive to realize the mere fact that it is just another game that people play, that you used to play... so get over it.

 

Because:

1. It's a function of the game that isn't needed. The move is purely for financial gain. They don't need financial gain. Vanity pets are elsewhere acquirable (TCG, collector's edition, etc), but now move to a paying system.

2. If they were doing a true fundraiser, because they don't need the money, they would move all profits to the charity in question.

1+2= 3. They are using a charity to make money, if viewed from the charity angle. That's insulting. No matter how you dic

After reading this far, I've agreed with this post most of all. They don't need the money, so to do it right, while throwing the charity card they should be donating 100%--100% to the charity and from both pets. It is ridiculous. Why not scaling down  the subscription fees and the sales tax, haven't played another online game yet that has charged sales tax. I was done playing WoW after that first month when I realized that.

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sijmister

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11/04/09 10:33:24 PM#150

People, this is a purely optional vanity item, just like all the TCG loot that they have made available before. What's more some of the proceeds from this are going to the Make a Wish foundation, when Blizzard could have gone completely corporate and kept all the profits from THEIR in game pet... This doesn't affect gameplay in any way whatsoever, and it's not like they are selling instance content with loot cards like EQ.

Sometimes I think people just like having something to complain about.

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