Originally posted by coffee

Any more crap and the the puppy gets it. Oh BTW this is one of the new pets beeing added in 3.3, and its FREE! to ago along with the 100+ other FREE ingame pets.

 

Who cares how many were free. 

It isn't like the cost to develop a virtual pet increased to the point that it requires blizzard charging $10 for it.  There is no justification for selling virtual items except the company wants to make more money.

This is a net loss to players, because things like this were typically designed as in game rewards for in game achievements. 

It is a conflicting design process that has no benefit to players.  Paying money to avoid playing a game is just stupid, but sadly there are stupid people who want to do just that and even more that advocate this. 

All the same arguments we are going to see here are the exact same ones we saw over at the SOE forums when soe started doing this.  Go ask EQ2 players if their cash shop and card games are no big deal now.  

its there last plea for some cash before the game dies

Originally posted by Eben

Originally posted by Yamota

Get over what? The fact that WoW ruined the MMORPG genre by making casual, themepark and linear norms in MMORPGs and bringing in millions of retards that wants everything handed to them on a silver platter and is now milking those retards for money through RMT?

No, I think that will take a while longer....

Blizzard may be out to make money, just like any other corp, but they are solely responsible for ruining the MMORPG genre.

 

And people like you kept the MMO genre in your parents basement, nerdraging over stupid shit such as this, bitter because WoW brought real normal people into your fantasy worlds, making you just as inferior there as you are in RL.

It all balances out, really.

If by normal you mean lazy bums that cannot be bothered to be challenged when playing a computer game but rather wants everything easy then yeah.

oo lets make big shiny arrows that leads me to the quest where I have to kill 10 rabbits and then another arrow to lead me back to the NPC that gave me the quest. And lets have zero death penalty in case those rabbits somehow manage to kill me.

As for me in RL, RL as in games I like to be challenged. Maybe you prefer to play against opponents that are weaker than you are so that you feel big but not all people are like that.

And I am not "nerdraging". I couldnt give a flying f***k that Blizzard uses RMTs. Just stating that the hate towards Blizzard is justified as they have ruined the MMORPG genre.

For the people in this thread who are disgusted with this move and PLAY WOW ( doubt any of you do) please cancel your sub giving this as a reason, if enough of you do it then blizzard will re-think it, people power.

Do as above and get on with your life.

The option for cash shop is not available as a reason for leaving yet.  I'll give it another few days to see if they even put it up.

However, don't tell people to get on with their lives.  This is current and even though you don't like the feedback, it is relevent. 

Don't tell people to go away quietly.  You are on a discussion forum FFS if you don't like the reaction don't read the fucking thread. 

Originally posted by coffee

For the people in this thread who are disgusted with this move and PLAY WOW ( doubt any of you do) please cancel your sub giving this as a reason, if enough of you do it then blizzard will re-think it, people power.

Do as above and get on with your life.

and also do not buy future blizzard games or other games from other companies who follow a similar business model.

Originally posted by Ruyn

Now that the precedent has been set, where do you think the genre will take us?

 

As already stated by many posts in this thread, it is not Blizzard who sets the precedent, this happened in other games before. No news.

Originally posted by Ruyn

This thread is sponsored by:  Dragon Age Origins

Haha. That caused me to laugh pretty hard.

I dont play wow anymore. If I did, I wouldnt care. I never cared about fluff items. I despise pets and mini pets. As long as games dont sell gameplay items Im cool. Also, server transfers and character name and appearance changes are not micro transactions, they are services.

its just a stupid mini panda...

Heres the last pet I got a few weeks back... I cannot believe I had to pay to get him.. oh wait no.. no it was FREE.

"hello there little fella... you hungry?, yes you are.. awww yes you are..."

I'm loling so hard at this thread for 2 reasons:
-Thinking how hard Bobby Kotick is laughing at the moment;
-How people say that MMORPG genre means WoW and how adding a cash shop in it will kill the entire genre.
 

Originally posted by Kaisen_Dexx

Originally posted by Ruyn

This thread is sponsored by:  Dragon Age Origins

Haha. That caused me to laugh pretty hard.

What's sad is the fact that bioware sells dungeons for real money.
 

I;m about ready to flip the online gaming world off and dust off my nintendo. The games were more fun back then anyway.

Originally posted by Kaisen_Dexx

Originally posted by Ruyn

This thread is sponsored by:  Dragon Age Origins

Haha. That caused me to laugh pretty hard.

Thank you...I have my moments.  But it's also showing a point.  Even a website like this is a business trying to make money.  Advertising is getting more and more obtrusive.  It's up to the user to make their voices heard.

As to the other poster who said that the precedent has already been set by other companies, which ones?  Which ones charge a monthly subscription fee, paid expansions and now paid item(s).

just you wait, they will start to sell gear and levels when the xpac comes out. I guarantee it.

Originally posted by Malickie

Originally posted by neikkio

 

1. No one is telling you to buy it.
2. You can quit the game anytime or not even play.
3. Blizzard is a business they were made to make money.
4. If people will buy it for $10 then they will sell it for $10. Simple Supply Demand principle.
5. No Charity alive sends 100% of proceeds to their cause, to be honest 50% is amazing.
6. If anyone has any other problem's do post them debunking your high school drop up smarts and economic know how will keep me entertained while sitting here in class.

 

You do realize it's the consumer who pays the charity, not a company like blizzard? If blizzard really wanted to be "charitable" they'd simply take some off their own end to give, such as from subs. It's not like there was any real work done on their end to warrant giving them half of what you'd like to donate.

 

What exactly are "high school drop up smarts"? How do you go about debunking them?

I start by learning to proof read my work. Then again I am not a LA major. :)

Originally posted by DevilXaphan

Originally posted by neikkio

 

1. No one is telling you to buy it.
2. You can quit the game anytime or not even play.
3. Blizzard is a business they were made to make money.
4. If people will buy it for $10 then they will sell it for $10. Simple Supply Demand principle.
5. No Charity alive sends 100% of proceeds to their cause, to be honest 50% is amazing.
6. If anyone has any other problem's do post them debunking your high school drop up smarts and economic know how will keep me entertained while sitting here in class.

 

 

But still $10 is pretty steep for a virtual pet.

It is but if you look up the price's of stuff on Maple Story and the amount they make from their cash up every 3 months. $10 is nothing.

Originally posted by templarga

Originally posted by neikkio

 

1. No one is telling you to buy it.
2. You can quit the game anytime or not even play.
3. Blizzard is a business they were made to make money.
4. If people will buy it for $10 then they will sell it for $10. Simple Supply Demand principle.
5. No Charity alive sends 100% of proceeds to their cause, to be honest 50% is amazing.
6. If anyone has any other problem's do post them debunking your high school drop up smarts and economic know how will keep me entertained while sitting here in class.

 

 

Yes 50% is remarkable to be honest. To be honest, anything over 25% is good and usually its around 10%. I know huge charities in the US that spend 90 cents on the dollar for administrative costs. Before people complain that 50% is "insulting" , maybe you should research how charities really work.

Yes 50% for something that the user doesn't ever really hold it just follows them around on a virtual world is amazing.

OMG that panda pet is worth $100, $10 is a bargin www.youtube.com/watch

Also if Blizzard wants to be so charitable why don't they simply grab a chunk full of their own money and donate it. Why does this have to come from the general public who are already paying to play. They could have announced that 100% of the profits from the pet store goes to the charity. Sounds pretty much like Blizzard is more than happy to donate as long as it isn't their money, oh and they'll take $5.00 of that charity money too.

So if Blizzard could add 100+ Pets for free, why do they need to charge $10 for theese 2?

Because there are alot of collectors playing WoW who will want everything no matter what so Blizzard make some easy money from them...

Im starting to feel glad that Diablo 3 and Starcraft 2 just seems like cartoonified upgrades to the old games now :/

Originally posted by Ruyn

Originally posted by Kaisen_Dexx

Originally posted by Ruyn

This thread is sponsored by:  Dragon Age Origins

Haha. That caused me to laugh pretty hard.

 

Thank you...I have my moments.  But it's also showing a point.  Even a website like this is a business trying to make money.  Advertising is getting more and more obtrusive.  It's up to the user to make their voices heard.

 

As to the other poster who said that the precedent has already been set by other companies, which ones?  Which ones charge a monthly subscription fee, paid expansions and now paid item(s).

Everquest 1 and 2, age of conan, lord of the rings online to name a few off the top of my head.

Eq1 and 2 sell a variety of usefull and useless items. AoC you can buy time into the new account age program, lotro on top of the expansion is shilling out 2 extra character slots and shared banking outside of it,.

It's spread and there is no stopping it.

Blizzard, doing something shamelessly greedy?

No, surely not.

Why is anyone surprised by this? Blizzard has been testing the RMT waters for some time. They have been testing the community to see just what they can get away with in this vein. They want money. And apparently they are getting it.

Originally posted by Kungaloosh1

 

It's spread and there is no stopping it.

There is - stop buying it.

Originally posted by Dubhlaith

Blizzard, doing something shamelessly greedy?

No, surely not.

 

Why is anyone surprised by this? Blizzard has been testing the RMT waters for some time. They have been testing the community to see just what they can get away with in this vein. They want money. And apparently they are getting it.

Take a look at future gaming ideas. Paid DLC/services will become a mundane thing, what makes you think Blizzard should not do it?

Pet Store FAQ
 

Why are you introducing this service?
The Pet Store provides a new way for players to obtain unique companion pets outside of the game, which is something that has been requested by many players who enjoy World of Warcraft's non-combat companions.

Will more companions be available for purchase in the future?
We plan to add more pets to the Pet Store in the near future. Keep an eye on the official World of Warcraft website and the online Blizzard Store for details.

Where can I go to purchase these pets?
You can purchase these in-game companions by visiting this link or heading to the online Blizzard Store, where you'll find the Pet Store pets under the Collectibles tab.

Will I be able to acquire these Pet Store pets by questing, through holidays, on in-game vendors, or by any other in-game methods?
No. Pets purchasable through the Pet Store will not be obtainable through quests or other in-game means -- they're only available through the online Blizzard Store.

How do I redeem a Pet Store pet once it's been purchased from the Blizzard Store?
After you purchase the pet, you'll receive a code that can then be redeemed on any World of Warcraft account via Battle.net Account Management. You don't need to redeem the code on the same Battle.net account that made the initial purchase – feel free to send the code to a friend as a gift.

Will these pets count toward pet-related achievements?
These Pet Store pets will count toward the total number of pets a character has for achievements like Plethora of Pets or Lil' Game Hunter.

Will these pets help me in combat?
No, these pets are strictly cosmetic. They have some fun animations and sound effects, but they will not help you in PvP or PvE.

What characters will receive the Pet Store pet that I purchase?
Once you redeem your code on an individual World of Warcraft account, every character on the account will receive the pet in their in-game mailbox (including any characters you create in the future). If you wish to purchase the pet for multiple different World of Warcraft accounts merged with the same Battle.net account, you will need to buy a separate pet for each World of Warcraft account individually.

Things to note this is a "PET STORE" its not an online item shop. Oh and read the last but 1 Q&A.