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Originally posted by DevilXaphan

LOL War has a long way to go before it bounces back, sever stability beiong number one issue. Fix the crafting, don't make the PvE to easy, fix the higher end PvP content and a host of other smaller issues that abound.

While you think PvE is fun, the focus of WAR is RvR not PvE.

Besides there is plenty of those hard PvE challenges in LotD which haven't yet been beaten by many, there are no pve raids; so no 12h molten core crawls for those that 'enjoy' those.

I agree that high end pvp content needs fixing but the core of that which is the actual fighting is best on the market.

Originally posted by Zodan

I agree that high end pvp content needs fixing but the core of that which is the actual fighting is best on the market.

Pretty sure any Ex-Daoc player will debate that. Game might be old and empty but most will surely agree it's got the best PvP on the market ^^

Daoc isnt empty at all. in fact the best pvp game is got about 3k ppl playing at any given time. Needless to say i miss soloing with out getting zerged down. WAR is the wow grind in PvP form.

Originally posted by Zodan

Originally posted by DevilXaphan

LOL War has a long way to go before it bounces back, sever stability beiong number one issue. Fix the crafting, don't make the PvE to easy, fix the higher end PvP content and a host of other smaller issues that abound.

While you think PvE is fun, the focus of WAR is RvR not PvE.

and while its not the only reason, this is one of the major reason it failed. sorry but plenty of people were looking for a complete game not just a RPG fragfest. Alot of people had high hopes for good PVE content as well as RVR content. DAOC while an RVR game had some of the best Dungeons i have ever seen.

the problem with WAR is RVR was the only thing to do, and you need others to do it so if you played at odd hours or on a dead server it was much more noticable than say a PVE game. in fact when my wife started playing it she was on a early shift so if she wanted to play she didn't bother to play on a US server because at that time there was nothing going on .

where as on every other game she had no problem because she was able to PVE at any time.

and the attitude of the playerbase doesn't help either, god forbid you ask for better PVE content you will get flamed off the forum by the "ONLY RVR" Militia. as i posted on the main forums, I don't want "just a PVP game" I want a complete game with good PVE, good crafting and good PVP.

why is that a bad thing?

Originally posted by Ravanos

and while its not the only reason, this is one of the major reason it failed. sorry but plenty of people were looking for a complete game not just a RPG fragfest. Alot of people had high hopes for good PVE content as well as RVR content. DAOC while an RVR game had some of the best Dungeons i have ever seen.

 

the problem with WAR is RVR was the only thing to do, and you need others to do it so if you played at odd hours or on a dead server it was much more noticable than say a PVE game. in fact when my wife started playing it she was on a early shift so if she wanted to play she didn't bother to play on a US server because at that time there was nothing going on .

 

where as on every other game she had no problem because she was able to PVE at any time.

 

and the attitude of the playerbase doesn't help either, god forbid you ask for better PVE content you will get flamed off the forum by the "ONLY RVR" Militia. as i posted on the main forums, I don't want "just a PVP game" I want a complete game with good PVE, good crafting and good PVP.

why is that a bad thing?

It's because a game can't do all those things well. Not that I have seen.

Originally posted by MMO_Doubter

Originally posted by Ravanos

and while its not the only reason, this is one of the major reason it failed. sorry but plenty of people were looking for a complete game not just a RPG fragfest. Alot of people had high hopes for good PVE content as well as RVR content. DAOC while an RVR game had some of the best Dungeons i have ever seen.

 

the problem with WAR is RVR was the only thing to do, and you need others to do it so if you played at odd hours or on a dead server it was much more noticable than say a PVE game. in fact when my wife started playing it she was on a early shift so if she wanted to play she didn't bother to play on a US server because at that time there was nothing going on .

 

where as on every other game she had no problem because she was able to PVE at any time.

 

and the attitude of the playerbase doesn't help either, god forbid you ask for better PVE content you will get flamed off the forum by the "ONLY RVR" Militia. as i posted on the main forums, I don't want "just a PVP game" I want a complete game with good PVE, good crafting and good PVP.

why is that a bad thing?

It's because a game can't do all those things well. Not that I have seen.

DAOC did especially pre TOA.. great PVE dungeons, crafting was pretty good and useful and it still is one of the best PVP games around.

Originally posted by Ravanos

 

DAOC did especially pre TOA.. great PVE dungeons, crafting was pretty good and useful and it still is one of the best PVP games around.

Didn't you have to level by PvE before you could PvP?

Not good enough.

Originally posted by MMO_Doubter

Originally posted by Ravanos

 

DAOC did especially pre TOA.. great PVE dungeons, crafting was pretty good and useful and it still is one of the best PVP games around.

Didn't you have to level by PvE before you could PvP?

Not good enough.

oh im sorry you're looking for the first person shooter genre ... thats down the hall on your left. because most MMOs you have to level in order to PVP.

Originally posted by Ravanos

 

oh im sorry you're looking for the first person shooter genre ... thats down the hall on your left. because most MMOs you have to level in order to PVP.

Nice smart-ass answer. Have you forgotten which game this forum is for? Earning the chance to PvP isn`t good enough anymore.

Who cares about what most games require? Most games stink.

Originally posted by MMO_Doubter

Originally posted by Ravanos

 

oh im sorry you're looking for the first person shooter genre ... thats down the hall on your left. because most MMOs you have to level in order to PVP.

Nice smart-ass answer. Have you forgotten which game this forum is for? Earning the chance to PvP isn`t good enough anymore.

Who cares about what most games require? Most games stink.

 

I disagree, I think most games are alot better then most people on these forums give them credit for.  Just because you don't like something doesn't mean it "stinks" for everyone.

Originally posted by maskedweasel

I disagree, I think most games are alot better then most people on these forums give them credit for.  Just because you don't like something doesn't mean it "stinks" for everyone.

Nothing stinks for everyone.

Just because you think most games are good, doesn't mean they are.

See how that line of thought works?

WAR is bouncing back. I agree. It is a great game, and has gotten better since launch. I hope more people will come back.

Originally posted by MMO_Doubter

Originally posted by maskedweasel

I disagree, I think most games are alot better then most people on these forums give them credit for.  Just because you don't like something doesn't mean it "stinks" for everyone.

Nothing stinks for everyone.

Just because you think most games are good, doesn't mean they are.

See how that line of thought works?

by shooting back and masked you just helped him prove you wrong. I give you credit it takes balls to make yourself look worse like that.

Originally posted by MMO_Doubter

Originally posted by Ravanos

and while its not the only reason, this is one of the major reason it failed. sorry but plenty of people were looking for a complete game not just a RPG fragfest. Alot of people had high hopes for good PVE content as well as RVR content. DAOC while an RVR game had some of the best Dungeons i have ever seen.

 

the problem with WAR is RVR was the only thing to do, and you need others to do it so if you played at odd hours or on a dead server it was much more noticable than say a PVE game. in fact when my wife started playing it she was on a early shift so if she wanted to play she didn't bother to play on a US server because at that time there was nothing going on .

 

where as on every other game she had no problem because she was able to PVE at any time.

 

and the attitude of the playerbase doesn't help either, god forbid you ask for better PVE content you will get flamed off the forum by the "ONLY RVR" Militia. as i posted on the main forums, I don't want "just a PVP game" I want a complete game with good PVE, good crafting and good PVP.

why is that a bad thing?

It's because a game can't do all those things well. Not that I have seen.

This is very very true

Originally posted by Frostbite05

by shooting back and masked you just helped him prove you wrong. I give you credit it takes balls to make yourself look worse like that.

You need a remedial course in reading comprehension

Originally posted by Guillermo197

Originally posted by Zodan

Originally posted by ozy1

I left this game months ago, I don't understand whats the big change?

 

Depending on tier you were fighting, all of the game elements has been touched and new content has been added.

They explain the recent (1.3.2) changes here quite nicely: http://herald.warhammeronline.com/warherald/NewsArticle.war?id=945

Try out the trial or if you can afford to dish out 1 month sub it's definitely worth a shot now.

 

So instead of fixing it, they now completely removed Fortresses from the game!  That is even worse than I thought it was. /sigh

Forts were one big reason the end game never really worked.

is it really bouncing back ? when i went back for 10 days it seamed pretty dead . will proberbly play t1 now its free .

Originally posted by Guillermo197

I am sorry, but what have they actually fixed?

As far as I know, there is no single server anymore that has enough population to even have largescale RvR going, to lag you to death or disconnect.

So if you don't experience any lag nor disconnects during PVP anymore. Well, probably because there aren't many people around anymore.

Cheers

I didn't think I'd like WAR from reading the reviews here ... but find it's alot of fun. The latest patch causes the city seiges to spawn. I haven't experienced much lag of disconnect problems and frequently play in areas with multiple war bands (a war band is a group of 24). IMO this is a vast improvement over what DAOC could do.

Originally posted by MMO_Doubter

Originally posted by Frostbite05

by shooting back and masked you just helped him prove you wrong. I give you credit it takes balls to make yourself look worse like that.

You need a remedial course in reading comprehension

lets see you twisted the guys logic around saying and in an attempt to prove that ever game apparently stinks which is only your opinion thus it isn't the truth. Say i think every game currently out is a masterpiece but this would be my opinion which makes it true for me and only me. This doesn't mean that its true in any way, shape, or form for anyone else.  All I'm really saying is that your not wrong but your not right either.

Push a man off a building, he might bounce when he hits the bottom..

War is definately bouncing back..

the game honestly couldn't have gotten much worse any attempt to improve it should make it better. Sad thing is the launch wasn't bad for this game it just sucked once ppl got max and the endgame wasnt there no complete aka servers crashed for forts

Originally posted by Frostbite05 

lets see you twisted the guys logic around saying and in an attempt to prove that ever game apparently stinks which is only your opinion thus it isn't the truth. Say i think every game currently out is a masterpiece but this would be my opinion which makes it true for me and only me. This doesn't mean that its true in any way, shape, or form for anyone else.  All I'm really saying is that your not wrong but your not right either.

You're right in that it is just my opinion. That has no real bearing on whether is is factually true. Positive or negative.

On the other hand, truth isn't subjective, so stop talking about 'my truth' vs 'your truth'.

I gave my opinion that most games stink. It should have been clear that it was a subjective opinion, but Masked chose to respond as though it was a factual statement. I replied, showing that his argument was just as subjective as mine.

 hows the gameplay in this game now? i was around for the first month and found the actual gameplay kinda sluggish like in EQ 2

Originally posted by DiSpLiFF

 hows the gameplay in this game now? i was around for the first month and found the actual gameplay kinda sluggish like in EQ 2

It is smoother than it was at launch, but still far from what WoW provides.