This game killing baby crying community.

I still enjoining  playing with mature players after  main work time.

They should back forts!!!

I disagree with the Advice channel being useless remark. I find it livened up the game a lot.

WAR was anti social from the very begining, and the improvements in the map interface did not help, to the contrary, where people would earlier use /1 for info about the current RvR and PQ situation, the map now tells them everything. No need to use chat. You can go a whole day and not hear anyone speak outside your guild chat. Not to mention how much this is accentuated with the lowered population across the middle tiers.

To see so many people complaining about Advice chat is astonishing. I cannot understand it, for the first time since launch, you actually see people chatting about stuff , and it bothers so many people... But it does not matter, all of you pricks have turned it off by now (and get this, most of you even had to use advice chat to learn how to turn the thing off, the irony), and a nice community has now formed, that uses it as a general chat AND as an actual advice channel that is helpful to many, and it really brings a whole new level to this half dead game.

So it does have a use.

Unfortunetly still not enough to bring me back. Good start though.

(AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH engages Gotrex and Felix in combat)

Originally posted by 3nimac

I disagree with the Advice channel being useless remark. I find it livened up the game a lot.

WAR was anti social from the very begining, and the improvements in the map interface did not help, to the contrary, where people would earlier use /1 for info about the current RvR and PQ situation, the map now tells them everything. No need to use chat. You can go a whole day and not hear anyone speak outside your guild chat. Not to mention how much this is accentuated with the lowered population across the middle tiers.

To see so many people complaining about Advice chat is astonishing. I cannot understand it, for the first time since launch, you actually see people chatting about stuff , and it bothers so many people... But it does not matter, all of you pricks have turned it off by now (and get this, most of you even had to use advice chat to learn how to turn the thing off, the irony), and a nice community has now formed, that uses it as a general chat AND as an actual advice channel that is helpful to many, and it really brings a whole new level to this half dead game.

So it does have a use.

First off I don't find a channel filled with nonsensical humor and run of the mill leet speak to be anything that would liven up any game. Second when I see someone actually use the channel for its purpose, to only be replied to with such banter, I can not see anything else to do but turn it off.

It has a use sure, for the kiddies to annoy people.

Originally posted by Malickie

First off I don't find a channel filled with nonsensical humor and run of the mill leet speak to be anything that would liven up any game. Second when I see someone actually use the channel for its purpose, to only be replied to with such banter, I can not see anything else to do but turn it off.

It has a use sure, for the kiddies to annoy people.

Everyone is really nice on EU Karak Norn. I have only once seen a guy spam the chat with caps, and a moderator notified a CSR and he was gone within minutes. No kiddies and immature behavior since. Well, maybe a little. :)

i prey, i prey during months that gods give me a reason to return to WAR.
i tried 1.3.2, i wanted to see something divine.... but really, badly disappointed (again) :(((
i can't believe my dream mmo is failed.

How is it that a company that did so many things right with DAoC could do so many things wrong with WAR? 

I had a very similar experience as most of you.  The game simply was not fun.  Not to mention that obvious bias on the Devs part towards Destro. 

I just recently (like a week ago) went to their website as I am in between games.  I saw the same glaring issues that we TOLD THEM ABOUT during BETA!  Come on Mythic...I had so much faith in you from DAoC and it has been shot up and thrown to the wayside.  Man, all you have to do is look at the WP compared to the DoK to see it.  No friggin wonder most are playing Destro. 

And the absolute icing on the cake...how in the world did the company that penned true RvR not understand that THREE realms works waayyyyy better than two.  Most of time, when the Middies were really strong, us (Albs) and Hibbies would gang up on em.  It worked because no one realm could get too strong without the other two balancing it out a bit.  What happened????  Did EA strip the gamers out of Mythic's dev team with loads of cash? 

My collector's edition will be collecting dust bunnies on the shelf behind me until they (or IF they) ever learn to listen to their fanbase and not a bunch of tightwad suits that have no idea what casual gamers (the MAJORITY of players today) enjoy!

I put a post up in there forums.

To fix this game they need to keep track of how many players from each side is in a pvp lake at any given time and reward

the underdog with pvp xp & RP bonus for any kills they manage to get.

if your outnumbered 5 to 1 you should get 5 time the xp for one kill.

It was 5 times the challange.

But they cant do it.

If they could, it would have been done already.

Originally posted by _Jord_

Third! (just kidding).

WAR was one of the biggest disappointments in my personal gaming history. No. I take that back. It was THE biggest.

It would take some free play time to have a prayer at winning me back. 14-day retrial for previous members? Might be just what they need to get the numbers up a bit.

So you are playing or you are not playing...You posted third for what? To beg for free gaming time...

If they gave it to you, the result would be the same. You would claim 3rd to every post with a lighter in your hand and gas in your mouth. If a game it the "biggest disappointments in my personal gaming history" then I hate to tell you, it always will be. The game has launched, the classes are clear as is the game perspective...At this point, if this is the biggest disappointment of your gaming career, then allow other game's history's set the example for launch and evolution, the do not change so much.

In other words...stop asking for free time. Find another game. Move the fuck on...

Originally posted by local93bc

I put a post up in there forums.

 

To fix this game they need to keep track of how many players from each side is in a pvp lake at any given time and reward

the underdog with pvp xp & RP bonus for any kills they manage to get.

 

if your outnumbered 5 to 1 you should get 5 time the xp for one kill.

It was 5 times the challange.

 

But they cant do it.

If they could, it would have been done already.

 

 

Actually, if they wanted to they would have done so already. Like my response to the last post. Just quit. If you are asking for 5x just for being a minority, perhaps (1) you should try to network amongst your r, or (2) just rage quit.

WAR failed imo for two major reasons:

1. They tried to stay to true to the IP by only creating a two sided war. Huge mistake from the company that created the 3 sided perfection. Unreal how they allowed this.

2. City Sieges - Numerous boring, confusing and ridiculous stages, PVE at the end of a PVP/RVR game, completely boring mechanics. This one really is the icing on the cake. Any reason why no one really cares to get to t4? Because its the worst tier by far. Who wants nothing to fight over or capture? No relic or king take. No trophy for the other side to want to get. No, just pve for gear. Yeeeeeeeah. Mind boggling how the makers of DAOC went from near perfection to complete nonsense.  Worst end game decision I can think of in MMO history.

Sad that a game with such great potential couldnt deliver/finish. Can someone please make a good three sided pvp game...I dont even care if the graphics are horrible.

Dunno, I played WAR from March to Oct of this year and I think its a pretty good game.

I left mainly because it just doesn't have enough "bang" at T4. But then most MMO's don't. I also didn't care for the world design but that's me.

IMHO, it's just a popular game to pick on and it's going to die because of that. Could it be better? Sure, but then name me an MMO that couldn't?

I was going to type a bunch of stuff, but this summarizes nicely...

Originally posted by googajoob7

do what ddo did change it to a free to play model with an item shop or close down the game  because theres no way most people are going to pay to play this .

This is the future of failed P2P games.

Originally posted by litewolf

WAR failed imo for two major reasons:

 

1. They tried to stay to true to the IP by only creating a two sided war. Huge mistake from the company that created the 3 sided perfection. Unreal how they allowed this.

 

2. City Sieges - Numerous boring, confusing and ridiculous stages, PVE at the end of a PVP/RVR game, completely boring mechanics. This one really is the icing on the cake. Any reason why no one really cares to get to t4? Because its the worst tier by far. Who wants nothing to fight over or capture? No relic or king take. No trophy for the other side to want to get. No, just pve for gear. Yeeeeeeeah. Mind boggling how the makers of DAOC went from near perfection to complete nonsense.  Worst end game decision I can think of in MMO history.

 

Sad that a game with such great potential couldnt deliver/finish. Can someone please make a good three sided pvp game...I dont even care if the graphics are horrible.

Actually, the IP is everyone against everyone. The dwarves sometimes work with humans and chaos often works with orcs. But the elves on both sides pretty much hate all other races and only cooperate in dire circumstances. Heck, orc armies have rules that units can randomly attack each other in the tabletop game.

Maybe in the expansion they'll introduce a third faction - Decay - that focuses on the undead or skaven.

At any rate, I'm playing Warhammer again. Not the MMO mind you - the tabletop game. With the new Skaven models and figs coming out, I'm really excited about the IP again. I'm just chalking my WAR Online experiences up to the fact that there has never been a really GOOD Warhammer fantasy game made. Oh well, here's hoping the 40K MMO will be a lot better. 

Originally posted by Kayless

Originally posted by googajoob7

...but i met one person in the game world in 3 days and i got fed up with waiting for scenarios to start.

I'm presuming you're on the EU servers? I'm in the UK and got fed up with those too. I've just moved over to the US servers and they're pretty busy.

Eventho WAR is pretty much done for and not to be saved.

At least Mythic could help the remaining loyal EU players and ditch GOA and move those poor bastards over to the US servers.

Then the US playerbase gets some extra players and the EU players have actually some populated servers to play on.

Win-Win situation in my book.

Against popular belief the EU servers are mostly well populated and people taking PvE approach is why they never see anyone - go to the RvR lake and or scenario, PvE is done only when it's quiet - naturally if your playing times are inside normal working hours in Europe then you should probably go to play on US servers or join the destro zerg (they play 24/7) on Karak-Azgal :P

Population balance is the only thing mythic and GOA can't do anything about, that's up to the players to do imho.

I'v played alot of WAR, and I still enjoy it alot.

The latest patch improved preformance something incredible, Last night there must have been atleast 500 people in Chaos Wastes on Karak Norn, and the server managed to stay up anyway...

In normal situations 4-5 Warbands I have no lagg at all anymore.

WAR was great fun to me, as was AoC. I will return to either of them if only there is some significant death penalty. I dont like meaningless pvp 

A fairly spot on review.

I recently returned to WAR as well, and was pleasurably surprised at the small changes that made the early levels a lot more flowing. The main one being different races in a like starting area. Being able to return to the game with a coworker and casually partake in these new changes together was nice.

The advice channel... ya. Yet another reason why MMO's need to do away with general chats entirely. Their purpose always gets defeated via the 13yo nutjobs who spread their disease like warpstone =P. And the forced guild thing took me by surprise too. That part was spot on as well. Left me scratching my head as to what had just happened.

Semi-niche gameplay with a lot of enjoyable combat mechanics. The community is small and have had the pleasure of not meeting any bad apples this go-round. PQ areas are full of life, and social-mixer-esque.

"All players starting in Empire / Chaos starting areas"

For real? This is dumb. Might as well do away with ever race in the game besides Empire and Chaos while they are at it.

Originally posted by AlienShirt

"All players starting in Empire / Chaos starting areas"

For real? This is dumb. Might as well do away with ever race in the game besides Empire and Chaos while they are at it.

Which is how the game should have started off. Adding the two other pairings later on, when they were ready.

It IS dumb, but it's working. PQs are actually being run. Players can port to their racial starting area as well, if they choose.

Originally posted by Silverthorn8

 

The bg queues in wow were hideous back in vanilla, 30 minutes is around the time it took to get into Arathi Basin only to get obliterated by a fuckiing pre-made horde team.

 

This game should have been released in 2004 tbh, it has missed the boat!

Now queues for bg are usually under minute or max few minutes ... and what is now even better as in war you can join any bg from anywhere and you are returned to same place. This is great. Im now back to wow. BG are much better to me then scenarios (which enjoyed anyway pretty a lot), but not only. There is no lag. No lag. There can be 20 people in diameter of 10m and everything runs completely smooth on my computer. On the other side, scenarios were nightmare with few to 10 people in small space. Inplayable. Despite last patch that improved prerformance, is still 100 times behind bg.

I am not going to give mythic another chance with WAR, they really screwed up the class balance, the stupid stun system and horrible and game design. I am not even going to talk about all the performance issues i had, i returned to WOW after WAR, and had great fun for few more months. Right now i am playing DDO, and i must say they did a good job with the game and i like the free to play pay as you wish model, I refuse to pay a single cent to WAR unless it goes free to play, even then i wont touch it with a 10 foot stick, its just not fun after Tier2

Originally posted by cagan

I am not going to give mythic another chance with WAR, they really screwed up the class balance, the stupid stun system and horrible and game design. I am not even going to talk about all the performance issues i had, i returned to WOW after WAR, and had great fun for few more months. Right now i am playing DDO, and i must say they did a good job with the game and i like the free to play pay as you wish model, I refuse to pay a single cent to WAR unless it goes free to play, even then i wont touch it with a 10 foot stick, its just not fun after Tier2

Its still says Mythic, but the huge turn around is because Bioware is in control of mythic now. They got rid of the idiot decision makers who thought the answer to population balance was to mess with how powerful the classes are.

Originally posted by Morgaren

Originally posted by cagan

I am not going to give mythic another chance with WAR, they really screwed up the class balance, the stupid stun system and horrible and game design. I am not even going to talk about all the performance issues i had, i returned to WOW after WAR, and had great fun for few more months. Right now i am playing DDO, and i must say they did a good job with the game and i like the free to play pay as you wish model, I refuse to pay a single cent to WAR unless it goes free to play, even then i wont touch it with a 10 foot stick, its just not fun after Tier2

 

Its still says Mythic, but the huge turn around is because Bioware is in control of mythic now. They got rid of the idiot decision makers who thought the answer to population balance was to mess with how powerful the classes are.

And live events! Don't forget all the freaking live events! That solves the problem! Yesssir!