Originally posted by twhint

Originally posted by Rallycart

Originally posted by cukimunga

2) Well the way the game works is it hits a random spot with in the crosshairs when you fire, which makes since to me.  Now guns like scoped rifles you will get a more accurate shot as well the more you raise your rifle skill the smaller the crosshairs get.  

IDK what you expect from a low level character of course their accuracy is going to be crap. It would be like me going out shooting stuff. Ive shot a gun a total of like 10 times in my life there is no way im going to go hunting and expect to hit my target with pinpoint accuracy.

 

Lets be honest here though. A retarded monkey could hit a guy in the chest from ten feet away... He has a bit of a point, which I never really thought about. At close range, and aiming at the center of mass, a shot would not have much of a chance to "glance" unless the target was SERIOUSLY armored in angular metal.

 

This right here shows a clear misunderstanding of how firearms actually work.

Hate to be the one to break it to you, but there are a ton of factors that go into firing a weapon, the least of which is actually aiming the damn thing. Seriously? A retarded monkey was the best you could come up with?

First, firing at a live target is a hell of a lot different than firing at a live target. You have the psychology, the erratic movement, the behavior of the weapon you're firing as no two guns will fire exactly the same, etc. Also is the effect that you'd be surprised at how easy it is to miss at 10 ft, even if it is a stationary target. That's why the knife user is given odds when he's within 6 feet. At 10ft, it's still quite a tossup.

Icarus has tried to artificially reflect this inexperience and such with the widened crosshairs that go down as you become more proficient in the firearm. Technically, they should reset the crosshairs each time you pick up a new firearm, but that gets too monotonous. Also, a glancing blow is simply a method of showing a shot that doesn't do much dmg, such as a flesh wound, not that it actually is deflected.

Some games have realistic dmg to them and they generally aren't too popular, such as Rainbow Six, Red Orchestra, and Ghost Recon. Yes,  those were good games, but in terms of popularity, they don't compare to Call of Duty or Battlefield, which are far more forgiving. It's the same as the whole permanent death debate.  No one wants to spend a lot of effort in order to have it all get pissed away in a few seconds.

You didn't even have to give such a thorough explanation and could have simply said this:

RPG Mechanics

Originally posted by twhint

This right here shows a clear misunderstanding of how firearms actually work.

Hate to be the one to break it to you, but there are a ton of factors that go into firing a weapon, the least of which is actually aiming the damn thing. Seriously? A retarded monkey was the best you could come up with?

First, firing at a live target is a hell of a lot different than firing at a live target. You have the psychology, the erratic movement, the behavior of the weapon you're firing as no two guns will fire exactly the same, etc. Also is the effect that you'd be surprised at how easy it is to miss at 10 ft, even if it is a stationary target. That's why the knife user is given odds when he's within 6 feet. At 10ft, it's still quite a tossup.

That all assumes erratic movement. And, of all my years, I have never missed a target at 10 feet unless it was small. The center of mass on a human is larger than than most paper targets, let alone the actual target circles. Most of the mobs are coming right at you, and the guy that originally posted about the 10 feet is more than likely complaining about mobs that are either not engaged with him, or are actually closer than 10 feet, and are fighting at melee range.

Icarus has tried to artificially reflect this inexperience and such with the widened crosshairs that go down as you become more proficient in the firearm. Technically, they should reset the crosshairs each time you pick up a new firearm, but that gets too monotonous. Also, a glancing blow is simply a method of showing a shot that doesn't do much dmg, such as a flesh wound, not that it actually is deflected.

That is what they MIGHT have been attempting to do. However, if that is true, I would say it is pretty poor wording. If they wanted something like that, then glance was the wrong word choice for that. And, once again, the guy that we were originally talking about was talking real life.

Some games have realistic dmg to them and they generally aren't too popular, such as Rainbow Six, Red Orchestra, and Ghost Recon. Yes,  those were good games, but in terms of popularity, they don't compare to Call of Duty or Battlefield, which are far more forgiving. It's the same as the whole permanent death debate.  No one wants to spend a lot of effort in order to have it all get pissed away in a few seconds.

No one was asking for realistic damage though. It was simply a comment about the odds of a shot actually glancing at such a short distance.

Originally posted by Guillermo197

You didn't even have to give such a thorough explanation and could have simply said this:

RPG Mechanics

And, once again, another person to come in and prove that reading on a forum is a lost art...

Originally posted by Rallycart

Originally posted by Guillermo197

You didn't even have to give such a thorough explanation and could have simply said this:

RPG Mechanics

 

And, once again, another person to come in and prove that reading on a forum is a lost art...

I have read every single post and you don't make sense. Games are not 100% realistic. Period! Ones that tried all failed!

I even wonder if you ever played any RPG game at all or understand RPG mechanics for that matter?

Originally posted by Guillermo197

Originally posted by Rallycart

Originally posted by Guillermo197

You didn't even have to give such a thorough explanation and could have simply said this:

RPG Mechanics

 

And, once again, another person to come in and prove that reading on a forum is a lost art...

 

I have read every single post and you don't make sense. Games are not 100% realistic. Period! Ones that tried all failed!

I even wonder if you ever played any RPG game at all or understand RPG mechanics for that matter?

 

If you had read each of the posts, then you did a poor job. Or else you would have seen it stated several times that the comments about glancing hits were being discussed about real life, and not as a game mechanic. No one is asking for the game to be 100% realistic, or even close to realistic at all. However, when someone stated that because he was a novice with a firearm, that in real life he might get a glancing hit at ten feet or less, the discussion started. Unfortunatly, it seems that most people missed that, and seem to think we are talking about game mechanics.

Originally posted by Horusra

and the fanbois charge.

You are half right.

I'm a fan yes, fan of the game and since playing it for a while I'm a fan of the company that made it.

I'm not a boy though.

I wish.

Those were the cool years for me.

 this post made me laugh a little bit inside considering the problems you have with this game are practicly basic issues on every MMO out there today. Plus you are mad because you cant buy a CD but instead have to download it which once again made me laugh. Maybe you bought it with no confidence in the game from the get go which is why you are unsatisfied. Again on the download speed... Maybe its just me but when i had a 56k connection i remember downloading a 500mb demo that would take like 2 days. Ofcourse it sucked but at least i knew what i was getting. Oh yeah 1 more thing. I got a real big kick out of number 3.)Active GM's and a bunch of people in chat channel. c'mon guy. really?

Originally posted by aleos

 this post made me laugh a little bit inside considering the problems you have with this game are practicly basic issues on every MMO out there today. Plus you are mad because you cant buy a CD but instead have to download it which once again made me laugh. Maybe you bought it with no confidence in the game from the get go which is why you are unsatisfied. Again on the download speed... Maybe its just me but when i had a 56k connection i remember downloading a 500mb demo that would take like 2 days. Ofcourse it sucked but at least i knew what i was getting. Oh yeah 1 more thing. I got a real big kick out of number 3.)Active GM's and a bunch of people in chat channel. c'mon guy. really?

Who seriously want to take the OP serious? You don't have to be a fanboi nor hater to see he is a fool.

I am doing the trial too now and I downloaded and installed the game over a week ago within an hour. Go figure.

The OP should try download and update games like Age of Conan or EverQuest II. Those clients are two till four times larger then the FE Client and really do take hours to download and update.

What ICARUS has here with FE. Is a solid base of a game to build and expand upon. That was their whole goal and what they have said countless times. Just like EVE Online was when it launched. And look where that game is today.

If you can't handle that. That's perfectly fine. But it doesn't make it a bad game.

It's refreshing. Different. No orc, troll, dwarf nor elf for a change. No forcing into the boring static class molds.

And GM's ingame. I haven't seen that in a very very long time in any game. Not even in so called AAA MMO titles.  It's a blessing and it keeps the community in check and total idiots are dealt with swiftly and quick.

Cheers

 ugh it is not me! It is the game! I swear to god, if you are not having problems with the drawing on this game than you must have a god like computer. They did their math wrong when it comes to drawing the game out for you. 8800GTS is not out dated and can run fine on any game out in the market, so don't say it is the graphics card.  It is the game plan and simple. It got better when I put the draw distance at like 0 m. So literally everything would pop up at like 5 m.

Once again please do not talk if you have a high end rig cause you just don't know.

Originally posted by Joker2240

 ugh it is not me! It is the game! I swear to god, if you are not having problems with the drawing on this game than you must have a god like computer. They did their math wrong when it comes to drawing the game out for you. 8800GTS is not out dated and can run fine on any game out in the market, so don't say it is the graphics card.  It is the game plan and simple. It got better when I put the draw distance at like 0 m. So literally everything would pop up at like 5 m.

Once again please do not talk if you have a high end rig cause you just don't know.

Your graphics card is more then fine and powerful enough.

What other hardware do you have? Your CPU? Amount of RAM? that kind of thing.

Cheers

Originally posted by Guillermo197

Originally posted by Joker2240

 ugh it is not me! It is the game! I swear to god, if you are not having problems with the drawing on this game than you must have a god like computer. They did their math wrong when it comes to drawing the game out for you. 8800GTS is not out dated and can run fine on any game out in the market, so don't say it is the graphics card.  It is the game plan and simple. It got better when I put the draw distance at like 0 m. So literally everything would pop up at like 5 m.

Once again please do not talk if you have a high end rig cause you just don't know.

 

Your graphics card is more then fine and powerful enough.

What other hardware do you have? Your CPU? Amount of RAM? that kind of thing.

Cheers

I beg to serously differ. A 8800 GTS is a dumbed down version of the GTX, and is also a lot weaker than the GT version. Moreover, they had a version with 328 MB of RAM instead of 512 as in GT and GTS.
 

I know, since I had the same GPU before my HD4890. That card was OK (not great) well over 2 years ago. FE would eat it for breakfast. Especially if it was the low GPU RAM version.

A hint: www.tomshardware.com/charts/gaming-graphics-cards-charts-2009-high-quality/Fallout-3,1509.html You can see how this is the slowest card, and mostly because of the low RAM only. FE is very memory-dependant, as all MMO's are.

DB

Edit: an even better comparison: www.tomshardware.com/charts/gaming-graphics-cards-charts-2009-high-quality/Fallout-3,1445.html

Originally posted by DonnieBrasco

Originally posted by Guillermo197

Originally posted by Joker2240

 ugh it is not me! It is the game! I swear to god, if you are not having problems with the drawing on this game than you must have a god like computer. They did their math wrong when it comes to drawing the game out for you. 8800GTS is not out dated and can run fine on any game out in the market, so don't say it is the graphics card.  It is the game plan and simple. It got better when I put the draw distance at like 0 m. So literally everything would pop up at like 5 m.

Once again please do not talk if you have a high end rig cause you just don't know.

 

Your graphics card is more then fine and powerful enough.

What other hardware do you have? Your CPU? Amount of RAM? that kind of thing.

Cheers

I beg to serously differ. A 8800 GTS is a dumbed down version of the GTX, and is also a lot weaker than the GT version. Moreover, they had a version with 328 MB of RAM instead of 512 as in GT and GTS.
 

I know, since I had the same GPU before my HD4890. That card was OK (not great) well over 2 years ago. FE would eat it for breakfast. Especially if it was the low GPU RAM version.

A hint: www.tomshardware.com/charts/gaming-graphics-cards-charts-2009-high-quality/Fallout-3,1509.html You can see how this is the slowest card, and mostly because of the low RAM only. FE is very memory-dependant, as all MMO's are.

DB

It should still be able to run FE on average setting. Depending he has the 512MB version of the 8800GTS.

But I am expecting he has either a poor CPU or too little RAM in his PC that might be the actual problem.

Originally posted by Guillermo197

Originally posted by DonnieBrasco

Originally posted by Guillermo197

Originally posted by Joker2240

 ugh it is not me! It is the game! I swear to god, if you are not having problems with the drawing on this game than you must have a god like computer. They did their math wrong when it comes to drawing the game out for you. 8800GTS is not out dated and can run fine on any game out in the market, so don't say it is the graphics card.  It is the game plan and simple. It got better when I put the draw distance at like 0 m. So literally everything would pop up at like 5 m.

Once again please do not talk if you have a high end rig cause you just don't know.

 

Your graphics card is more then fine and powerful enough.

What other hardware do you have? Your CPU? Amount of RAM? that kind of thing.

Cheers

I beg to serously differ. A 8800 GTS is a dumbed down version of the GTX, and is also a lot weaker than the GT version. Moreover, they had a version with 328 MB of RAM instead of 512 as in GT and GTS.
 

I know, since I had the same GPU before my HD4890. That card was OK (not great) well over 2 years ago. FE would eat it for breakfast. Especially if it was the low GPU RAM version.

A hint: www.tomshardware.com/charts/gaming-graphics-cards-charts-2009-high-quality/Fallout-3,1509.html You can see how this is the slowest card, and mostly because of the low RAM only. FE is very memory-dependant, as all MMO's are.

DB

 

It should still be able to run FE on average setting. Depending he has the 512MB version of the 8800GTS.

But I am expecting he has either a poor CPU or too little RAM in his PC that might be the actual problem.

 

With the 512 version one, I agree. We shall see if he replies :)

DB

Originally posted by DonnieBrasco

Originally posted by Guillermo197

Originally posted by DonnieBrasco

Originally posted by Guillermo197

Originally posted by Joker2240

 ugh it is not me! It is the game! I swear to god, if you are not having problems with the drawing on this game than you must have a god like computer. They did their math wrong when it comes to drawing the game out for you. 8800GTS is not out dated and can run fine on any game out in the market, so don't say it is the graphics card.  It is the game plan and simple. It got better when I put the draw distance at like 0 m. So literally everything would pop up at like 5 m.

Once again please do not talk if you have a high end rig cause you just don't know.

 

Your graphics card is more then fine and powerful enough.

What other hardware do you have? Your CPU? Amount of RAM? that kind of thing.

Cheers

I beg to serously differ. A 8800 GTS is a dumbed down version of the GTX, and is also a lot weaker than the GT version. Moreover, they had a version with 328 MB of RAM instead of 512 as in GT and GTS.
 

I know, since I had the same GPU before my HD4890. That card was OK (not great) well over 2 years ago. FE would eat it for breakfast. Especially if it was the low GPU RAM version.

A hint: www.tomshardware.com/charts/gaming-graphics-cards-charts-2009-high-quality/Fallout-3,1509.html You can see how this is the slowest card, and mostly because of the low RAM only. FE is very memory-dependant, as all MMO's are.

DB

 

It should still be able to run FE on average setting. Depending he has the 512MB version of the 8800GTS.

But I am expecting he has either a poor CPU or too little RAM in his PC that might be the actual problem.

 

 

With the 512 version one, I agree. We shall see if he replies :)

DB

Actually there is a 320mb version and a 640mb version

The 512mb version is a totally different GPU (G92) and is quite a lot newer/faster

Sum of FPS Benchmarks Totals (Tomshardware)

Nvidia Geforce 8800 GTS (512 MB)   994.50

Nvidia Geforce 8800 GTS (640 MB)   737.10

Nvidia Geforce 8800 GTS (320 MB)   533.10

Last but not least, the 8800GT is a cheaper version (lower clocks, less shaders) of the 8800 GTS (512mb), it is a G92 GPU though.

Anyway, no matter which of the 3 cards, it should be enough to run FE although FPS will differ quite a lot

Originally posted by DonnieBrasco

Originally posted by Guillermo197

Originally posted by Joker2240

 ugh it is not me! It is the game! I swear to god, if you are not having problems with the drawing on this game than you must have a god like computer. They did their math wrong when it comes to drawing the game out for you. 8800GTS is not out dated and can run fine on any game out in the market, so don't say it is the graphics card.  It is the game plan and simple. It got better when I put the draw distance at like 0 m. So literally everything would pop up at like 5 m.

Once again please do not talk if you have a high end rig cause you just don't know.

 

Your graphics card is more then fine and powerful enough.

What other hardware do you have? Your CPU? Amount of RAM? that kind of thing.

Cheers

I beg to serously differ. A 8800 GTS is a dumbed down version of the GTX, and is also a lot weaker than the GT version. Moreover, they had a version with 328 MB of RAM instead of 512 as in GT and GTS.
 

I know, since I had the same GPU before my HD4890. That card was OK (not great) well over 2 years ago. FE would eat it for breakfast. Especially if it was the low GPU RAM version.

A hint: www.tomshardware.com/charts/gaming-graphics-cards-charts-2009-high-quality/Fallout-3,1509.html You can see how this is the slowest card, and mostly because of the low RAM only. FE is very memory-dependant, as all MMO's are.

DB

The graphics card is not the problem at all. Please do not give anyone technical advice ever again, as a 8800 GTS is still good for every game out in the market.  I think I know my graphic cards better than you can ever understand them. 

I think it is actually my CPU.  I just barely push over the recommended but that should not make a difference as I am above the min. So, really I think it just poor math on their part.

BTW their min specs are as followed, 

Minimum Hardware Requirements

CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo 1.8 GHz or Athlon 64X2 2.4 GHz
RAM: 2.0 GB for XP, 3.0 GB for Vista
Video Card: nVidia GeForce 6600/ATI Radeon X1300
RAM (dedicated): 256 MB
Free hard-drive space: 10 GB

So compared to the video card and the dedicated RAM I am well above it. Do your homework son!

 Edit: it should not matter if I have the lower Dedicated RAM which I do not. As the min specs even for the shitter verison of the GTS is still above it. So, they either need to up their min specs or get better at math.

Originally posted by Joker2240

Originally posted by DonnieBrasco

Originally posted by Guillermo197

Originally posted by Joker2240

 ugh it is not me! It is the game! I swear to god, if you are not having problems with the drawing on this game than you must have a god like computer. They did their math wrong when it comes to drawing the game out for you. 8800GTS is not out dated and can run fine on any game out in the market, so don't say it is the graphics card.  It is the game plan and simple. It got better when I put the draw distance at like 0 m. So literally everything would pop up at like 5 m.

Once again please do not talk if you have a high end rig cause you just don't know.

 

Your graphics card is more then fine and powerful enough.

What other hardware do you have? Your CPU? Amount of RAM? that kind of thing.

Cheers

I beg to serously differ. A 8800 GTS is a dumbed down version of the GTX, and is also a lot weaker than the GT version. Moreover, they had a version with 328 MB of RAM instead of 512 as in GT and GTS.
 

I know, since I had the same GPU before my HD4890. That card was OK (not great) well over 2 years ago. FE would eat it for breakfast. Especially if it was the low GPU RAM version.

A hint: www.tomshardware.com/charts/gaming-graphics-cards-charts-2009-high-quality/Fallout-3,1509.html You can see how this is the slowest card, and mostly because of the low RAM only. FE is very memory-dependant, as all MMO's are.

DB

The graphics card is not the problem at all. Please do not give anyone technical advice ever again, as a 8800 GTS is still good for every game out in the market.  I think I know my graphic cards better than you can ever understand them. 

I think it is actually my CPU.  I just barely push over the recommended but that should not make a difference as I am above the min. So, really I think it just poor math on their part.

BTW their min specs are as followed, 

Minimum Hardware Requirements

CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo 1.8 GHz or Athlon 64X2 2.4 GHz
RAM: 2.0 GB for XP, 3.0 GB for Vista
Video Card: nVidia GeForce 6600/ATI Radeon X1300
RAM (dedicated): 256 MB
Free hard-drive space: 10 GB

 

So compared to the video card and the dedicated RAM I am well above it. Do your homework son!

 Edit: it should not matter if I have the lower Dedicated RAM which I do not. As the min specs even for the shitter verison of the GTS is still above it. So, they either need to up their min specs or get better at math.

 

Asus g50vt-x2 laptop. Far from godlike. No problems. People have more or less tolerance for different things and game setup does matter. It matters a lot. The game doesn't please you. That's fine but it doesn't take a godlike computer to run this in an acceptable fashon for most people.

Originally posted by Joker2240

The graphics card is not the problem at all. Please do not give anyone technical advice ever again, as a 8800 GTS is still good for every game out in the market.  I think I know my graphic cards better than you can ever understand them. 

I think it is actually my CPU.  I just barely push over the recommended but that should not make a difference as I am above the min. So, really I think it just poor math on their part.

BTW their min specs are as followed, 

Minimum Hardware Requirements

CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo 1.8 GHz or Athlon 64X2 2.4 GHz
RAM: 2.0 GB for XP, 3.0 GB for Vista
Video Card: nVidia GeForce 6600/ATI Radeon X1300
RAM (dedicated): 256 MB
Free hard-drive space: 10 GB

 

So compared to the video card and the dedicated RAM I am well above it. Do your homework son!

 Edit: it should not matter if I have the lower Dedicated RAM which I do not. As the min specs even for the shitter verison of the GTS is still above it. So, they either need to up their min specs or get better at math.

 

What CPU do you have now?

What amount of RAM do you have now?

How much RAM does your GeForce 8800GTS have?  As the 320MB version is pretty shitty and even outclassed by the newly released 8600GTS 512MB card.

I am not saying the GTS cards are bad. I had the 8600GTS 256MB myself for almost 2 years, before I jumped over to the 9800GTX 512MB card.  But it's no secret the GTS series were low budget cards.

Cheers

Originally posted by Guillermo197

Originally posted by Joker2240

The graphics card is not the problem at all. Please do not give anyone technical advice ever again, as a 8800 GTS is still good for every game out in the market.  I think I know my graphic cards better than you can ever understand them. 

I think it is actually my CPU.  I just barely push over the recommended but that should not make a difference as I am above the min. So, really I think it just poor math on their part.

BTW their min specs are as followed, 

Minimum Hardware Requirements

CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo 1.8 GHz or Athlon 64X2 2.4 GHz
RAM: 2.0 GB for XP, 3.0 GB for Vista
Video Card: nVidia GeForce 6600/ATI Radeon X1300
RAM (dedicated): 256 MB
Free hard-drive space: 10 GB

 

So compared to the video card and the dedicated RAM I am well above it. Do your homework son!

 Edit: it should not matter if I have the lower Dedicated RAM which I do not. As the min specs even for the shitter verison of the GTS is still above it. So, they either need to up their min specs or get better at math.

 

 

What CPU do you have now?

What amount of RAM do you have now?

How much RAM does your GeForce 8800GTS have?  As the 320MB version is pretty shitty and even outclassed by the newly released 8600GTS 512MB card.

I am not saying the GTS cards are bad. I had the 8600GTS 256MB myself for almost 2 years, before I jumped over to the 9800GTX 512MB card.  But it's no secret the GTS series were low budget cards.

Cheers

You are wrong, read my post, GTS doesn't have to be budget, it can though.

GTS doesn't make it budget, 8600 does, you are mixing up 8600 and 8800.

Originally posted by Dilweed

Originally posted by Guillermo197

Originally posted by Joker2240

The graphics card is not the problem at all. Please do not give anyone technical advice ever again, as a 8800 GTS is still good for every game out in the market.  I think I know my graphic cards better than you can ever understand them. 

I think it is actually my CPU.  I just barely push over the recommended but that should not make a difference as I am above the min. So, really I think it just poor math on their part.

BTW their min specs are as followed, 

Minimum Hardware Requirements

CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo 1.8 GHz or Athlon 64X2 2.4 GHz
RAM: 2.0 GB for XP, 3.0 GB for Vista
Video Card: nVidia GeForce 6600/ATI Radeon X1300
RAM (dedicated): 256 MB
Free hard-drive space: 10 GB

 

So compared to the video card and the dedicated RAM I am well above it. Do your homework son!

 Edit: it should not matter if I have the lower Dedicated RAM which I do not. As the min specs even for the shitter verison of the GTS is still above it. So, they either need to up their min specs or get better at math.

 

 

What CPU do you have now?

What amount of RAM do you have now?

How much RAM does your GeForce 8800GTS have?  As the 320MB version is pretty shitty and even outclassed by the newly released 8600GTS 512MB card.

I am not saying the GTS cards are bad. I had the 8600GTS 256MB myself for almost 2 years, before I jumped over to the 9800GTX 512MB card.  But it's no secret the GTS series were low budget cards.

Cheers

 

You are wrong, read my post, GTS doesn't have to be budget, it can though

GTS doesn't make it budget, 8600 does

I don't know what the prices are right now, as these old cards are no longer available.

But back then my Asus GeForce 8600 GTS was cheaper then the GT or GTX version.

The same was for the 8800 series, but even the GTS one was still too expensive for me back then.

But it doesn't matter for this subject right now.

Let him answer the questions. As I am curious what CPU he has, amount of RAM in his PC and amount of RAM of his video card.

Seeing how secretive he is about it. I guess we know enough. ;-)

Minimum specs are just that, the minimum. If you have min specs for any game, it means that you can play with a 25-30 FPS on all low settings, with an 800x600 resolution. Reccomended specs are the ones that you should look at. They are based around medium-medium high settings, at 1248x1024. Have a higher resolution than that, or want higher settings? You are going to need more powerful hardware.

Originally posted by Joker2240

Originally posted by DonnieBrasco

Originally posted by Guillermo197

Originally posted by Joker2240

 ugh it is not me! It is the game! I swear to god, if you are not having problems with the drawing on this game than you must have a god like computer. They did their math wrong when it comes to drawing the game out for you. 8800GTS is not out dated and can run fine on any game out in the market, so don't say it is the graphics card.  It is the game plan and simple. It got better when I put the draw distance at like 0 m. So literally everything would pop up at like 5 m.

Once again please do not talk if you have a high end rig cause you just don't know.

 

Your graphics card is more then fine and powerful enough.

What other hardware do you have? Your CPU? Amount of RAM? that kind of thing.

Cheers

I beg to serously differ. A 8800 GTS is a dumbed down version of the GTX, and is also a lot weaker than the GT version. Moreover, they had a version with 328 MB of RAM instead of 512 as in GT and GTS.
 

I know, since I had the same GPU before my HD4890. That card was OK (not great) well over 2 years ago. FE would eat it for breakfast. Especially if it was the low GPU RAM version.

A hint: www.tomshardware.com/charts/gaming-graphics-cards-charts-2009-high-quality/Fallout-3,1509.html You can see how this is the slowest card, and mostly because of the low RAM only. FE is very memory-dependant, as all MMO's are.

DB

The graphics card is not the problem at all. Please do not give anyone technical advice ever again, as a 8800 GTS is still good for every game out in the market.  I think I know my graphic cards better than you can ever understand them.  

I neved said your GPU is the only issue you have, and I even said the 8800 GTS is only crap, when it's a 320 MB version one.

How do I know? I had exactly the same model, and it was dead slow for most games even last year, on medium settings.

No need to be condescending, read my post first, then understand them, then think, and only THEN reply... saves you a lot of unnecessary tension :)

DB

Originally posted by Guillermo197

Originally posted by Dilweed

Originally posted by Guillermo197

Originally posted by Joker2240

The graphics card is not the problem at all. Please do not give anyone technical advice ever again, as a 8800 GTS is still good for every game out in the market.  I think I know my graphic cards better than you can ever understand them. 

I think it is actually my CPU.  I just barely push over the recommended but that should not make a difference as I am above the min. So, really I think it just poor math on their part.

BTW their min specs are as followed, 

Minimum Hardware Requirements

CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo 1.8 GHz or Athlon 64X2 2.4 GHz
RAM: 2.0 GB for XP, 3.0 GB for Vista
Video Card: nVidia GeForce 6600/ATI Radeon X1300
RAM (dedicated): 256 MB
Free hard-drive space: 10 GB

 

So compared to the video card and the dedicated RAM I am well above it. Do your homework son!

 Edit: it should not matter if I have the lower Dedicated RAM which I do not. As the min specs even for the shitter verison of the GTS is still above it. So, they either need to up their min specs or get better at math.

 

 

What CPU do you have now?

What amount of RAM do you have now?

How much RAM does your GeForce 8800GTS have?  As the 320MB version is pretty shitty and even outclassed by the newly released 8600GTS 512MB card.

I am not saying the GTS cards are bad. I had the 8600GTS 256MB myself for almost 2 years, before I jumped over to the 9800GTX 512MB card.  But it's no secret the GTS series were low budget cards.

Cheers

 

You are wrong, read my post, GTS doesn't have to be budget, it can though

GTS doesn't make it budget, 8600 does

 

I don't know what the prices are right now, as these old cards are no longer available.

But back then my Asus GeForce 8600 GTS was cheaper then the GT or GTX version.

The same was for the 8800 series, but even the GTS one was still too expensive for me back then.

But it doesn't matter for this subject right now.

Let him answer the questions. As I am curious what CPU he has, amount of RAM in his PC and amount of RAM of his video card.

Seeing how secretive he is about it. I guess we know enough. ;-)

hehe, there has never been a 8600 GTX

it is much easier to remember:

- all 8600 cards are low budget and mostly crap

- all 8800 are mainstream and some 8800 (ultra's) might be called high-end for there time

There is A LOT of difference between 8800 because they used different generation chips (G80 and G90) and gave them almost identical names

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Originally posted by Dilweed

Originally posted by Guillermo197

 

I don't know what the prices are right now, as these old cards are no longer available.

But back then my Asus GeForce 8600 GTS was cheaper then the GT or GTX version.

The same was for the 8800 series, but even the GTS one was still too expensive for me back then.

But it doesn't matter for this subject right now.

Let him answer the questions. As I am curious what CPU he has, amount of RAM in his PC and amount of RAM of his video card.

Seeing how secretive he is about it. I guess we know enough. ;-)

hehe, there has never been a 8600 GTX

it is much easier to remember:

- all 8600 cards are low budget and mostly crap

- all 8800 are mainstream and some 8800 (ultra's) might be called high-end for there time

There is A LOT of difference between 8800 because they used different generation chips (G80 and G90) and gave them almost identical names

 

Ugh Yes you ofcourse right. Nevermind me on that one lol.

What I meant was the GeForce 8600 GTS was cheapter then the 8600 GT.

So was the 8800 GTS cheaper then the 8800 GT and 8800 GTX back then.

At least that was how the cards were prices back in Holland in that time when the cards released.

But like I said. Let that guy answer and let him show his full specs. He is way too secretive about it.

Originally posted by Guillermo197

Ugh Yes you ofcourse right. Nevermind me on that one lol.

What I meant was the GeForce 8600 GTS was cheapter then the 8600 GT.

So was the 8800 GTS cheaper then the 8800 GT and 8800 GTX back then.

At least that was how the cards were prices back in Holland in that time when the cards released.

But like I said. Let that guy answer and let him show his full specs. He is way too secretive about it.

You are partially correct, and partially wrong. The 8800GTS 320MB was cheaper than the 8800GT. The 8800GTS 640MB was more expensive than the 8800GT. THEN, the 8800GTS G92 model came out, which had 512MB of RAM, and was MUCH faster. It was then more expensive than the 8800GT again.