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I started playing day of release and quit about 8 months or so ago. I was just mainly burnt out. I had pretty much accomplished everything I wanted to on several toons. Just dont see the need to raid again and again for months just to have them patch in armor and weapons that are .5 tier better lol. Just a waste of time gear grinding IMO. Even with the expansions its nothing really new. Raid to get the tier 10 ( or whatever # they are on now), in a few months raid again to get tier 10.5, rinse and repeat. No thanks. |
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I have quit playing WoW, a few times. But I did unsubscribe a few months ago and I don't miss it even now. I miss it taking up time when I was bored, but all I need to do is remember how bored I was when I logged in and then I realize I can't even fall back on WoW to occupy that free time. Before I canceled this last time, I used to login and just around. I was so dis-enthused with the game, I wouldn't even leave the main cities. I didn't want to raid. I didn't want to farm. I didn't want to run heroics. I've played alliance to end game and been bored. I've played horde to end game and been bored. I've done 5-mans end game and been bored. I've played end game and been bored. I get no enjoyment from WoW anymore. So that's why I don't play it. I have ZERO desire to login and play. The prospect of Cataclysm won't change that. It's 5 more levels and then end game. Blah.
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In germany, we have the opportunity to get 6month gametime for about 10-15Eur. It's offered everywhere, like on ebay etc. That is almost playing for free, but still i wouldn't want to come back. I played from release on, did it all, seen it all, from 24/7 pvp (old Alterac) to 24/7 raiding, had my times of playing solo and my times of guild drama. Several 60s, 70s, 80s, full equipped -all that stuff. The problem for me was that at a point the game didn't offered anything new to me, but kept on repeating itself with every new class i've played, profession i mastered and even with all the "new" content Blizzard came up with. I wasn't having a new adventure every time i logged in, but repeated the same day in WoW over and over again. Checking bags, checking mail, checking bank, checking AH...logging in with the next char, repeat. Day after day, loggin in by habit while i in fact run out of options month before. The game wasn't entertaining me anymore, instead i had to try to entertain myself with the game. What would bring me back to WoW would be some sort of "NGE", bringing new graphics, new sounds and foremost: new game mechanics. After almost 5yrs i'm so sick of a "gearwheel with a castbar" in every interaction with every mechanic. PS: and fire that failure of a lead designer that Ghostcrawler is. Every janitor in the house might have more relation to class balance.
"Women should not be enlightened or educated in any way. They should, in fact, be segregated as they are the cause of hideous and involuntary erections in holy men." — St. Augustine. |
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Graphics and animations. The poly count on the PC/NPC and environment just aren't insteresting by 2009 standards. I loved my time in WoW back in 05-06 but now I can't logout of Aion, AoC, CO, EQ2 and look at WoW and go ohhh ahhh. |
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It got boring when resilience was added, people stacked it and my ability to beat geared players with an undergeared character was gone. |
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nickelpat
Advanced Member
Joined: 11/07/08
"War isn''t about dieing for your country; It''s about making your enemy die for theirs." - G.Patton |
Originally posted by arenasb That would bring me back just to see it, but the graphics aren't one of the reasons I left and don't play. The community sucked, the game was fairly boring and lacked anything that engaged me. I'm sure it's gets better at higher levels when you combine various skills and play style can change. I don't want to play a game where I have a boring, unengaging grind to 80 though. In the end, they would have to revamp the entire skill, stat, and combat system to make me come back. Things that would make most of the current players flee. ____________________________ "I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but I know World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones." - Albert Einstein |
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because there are so many other great choices out there. /sarcasm off
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Originally posted by Palebane
So that's why these wow hating trolls always vomit over the game they love/hate to play. :) Get over it Blizzard is a class by its own. And amateurs on mmorpg.com wouldn't be able to design one inch worthy of a Blizzard game ----- IF you played too long ---- move over. ----- IF you didn't like to play ---- move to the duds and copies (the rest is already history and as dead as a rock). I counted already DOZENS of guys who came from DAOC/EQ1/EQ2/etc and they always said the same things. How was I so dumb to believe these games could hold any candle against Blizzard's WOW. Now go play the duds. Glasses and false beards are available for the queuing line at the midnight shops when Catcalysm launches.
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Originally posted by Zorndorf
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"Women should not be enlightened or educated in any way. They should, in fact, be segregated as they are the cause of hideous and involuntary erections in holy men." — St. Augustine. |
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Originally posted by VoIgore My BMI is 22 btw :))) I am an old cyclist. Have a few MS certificates and 2 university degrees I let my bank do the work for my money, Programmed and have written game programs for Softside as early as 1980. Playing wargames and WOW and my son plays national football and we're playing both WOW - the best game ever designed. And have 500 other board, fantasy, wargames stocked in my attic who won't hold a candle against it. And I played Ultima OFF line as early as 1984' ish . It was crap. Oh yeah btw, my native languages are dutch, french and german (english is only my 4th language if you would like to attack me on that too...).
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Just bored of it, even Cataclysm won't bring me back. |
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Originally posted by arenasb
Already married ty. Perhaps something for the frustrated guys who don't seem to come over their "lost" love. :) Sorry guys - you just lost your joy of playing the most succesful game in video game history. God knows how LONG your wait will be for the next dud ? :) |
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raystantz
 Final Fantasy XI Correspondent
Joined: 10/16/07
MMO history: UO, EQ1, EQ2, EQOA, FFXI, WoW, SWG, AO, AOC, WAR, VG, Aion and some free MMOs. |
Originally posted by Zorndorf
So that's why these wow hating trolls always vomit over the game they love/hate to play. :) Get over it Blizzard is a class by its own. And amateurs on mmorpg.com wouldn't be able to design one inch worthy of a Blizzard game ----- IF you played too long ---- move over. ----- IF you didn't like to play ---- move to the duds and copies (the rest is already history and as dead as a rock). I counted already DOZENS of guys who came from DAOC/EQ1/EQ2/etc and they always said the same things. How was I so dumb to believe these games could hold any candle against Blizzard's WOW. Now go play the duds. Glasses and false beards are available for the queuing line at the midnight shops when Catcalysm launches.
This guy is hilarious. The Most talked about game both positive and negative is WoW. I would dare say, even on the official boards.. the negative outweighs the positive. Why is it still the most popular? Is it because its the best..
Not by a long shot. Most of the people who currently play WoW I would day sare, weren't MMO gamers previously. They probably know nothing about other MMO's. WoW is all they know. Plenty of games that are better than WoW. Its like trying to tell me that MTV is the best music channel just because its the most well known. EQ2, Vanguard, heck even Conan is better IMO. I'm playing EQ2 right now, and I'm enjoying knowing that the goals I have right now, will last me a while before I'm having to do it again. So I don't have to "keep up with the Jones'". WoW is supposed to be casual.. but its anything but.. Sure you can play casual.. but you won't get anywhere. 
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Originally posted by raystantz
Read again boy: the MOST succesful. 1.2 billion dollars yearly revenu. Of course it is the best because it rakes in BY FAR the most money. People PAY to play WOW en masse, not the duds. EQ2 already lost the battle 5 years ago. You play a game with around 90% less polished features than World of Warcraft. Otherwise people would be playing EQ2.µ It is THAT simple. 15 dollars a month difference times 6 million non Chinese. That's the difference, that's the succes rate (popular is free, succes is hard cash).
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Why am I not playing WoW? Because I have a better game to play. I'll list a few of the problems I had with WoW. 1) Expansions destroying old content. Why even bother if everything starts all over every couple of months? Would you play a game if the developers wiped the server clean every two years? of course not! Great raid progressions like MC-Naxx at 60 and Kara-SW at 70 are dead now that blizzard raised the level cap. With the Xp stop feature this should have fixed the probelm instead blizzard decided to take away essential raids from those progressions like Naxx and Ony. With the next expansion the entire black rock mountain with two raids and three dungeons will be gone and turned into new Ezmode content for level 85 players. 2) Limited pvp that could be fun if it didn't require you to run the same Arena, BG and scheduled pvp skirmish a thousand times for items that are rendered obsolete by the next expansion. 3) Making every role in pve play the same and the death of CC. Dungeons used to be a challenge rogues needed to sap, mages sheeped, warlocks seduced or banished, priests mind controlled. These abilities gave Dps classes a purposed and as a tank made pve content challenging. You needed to understand pulls, set CC and kill order. Now DPS does one thing AOE and so do the tank and healers. It's absolutely worthless and has killed any challege in pve. We used to have challenging regular instances now only 2% of the content is hard and it's not even required for progression. 4) Progression, attunements & world bosses. We used to have a clear cut raid progression in WoW. This progression made you proud to be a raider you knew where your guild stood by what content you had on farm. Now this doesn't exist. Gear is handed to people so they could jump right into the new raid as it's released. This has killed raiding for many players that wanted a challege in WoW. Aspects of the raid game like Dungeon keys and long quest chains to gain access to certain raids are all but gone because the current WoW players don't want to be bothered with it. Roaming world bosses one of the last aspects of WoW that made it feel like a living breathing game world have been destroyed we use to have a whole mess of open world encounters that number is at a big fat zero atm. 5) Arena. I find it hard to say anything good about this feature Blizzard has pushed on its playerbase. Making WoW an Esport, focusing on balancing class specs for small scale fighting is one of the major reasons Pve difficulty has been gutted. Killing Certain classes tanking abilities, CC and even healing output. I have never seen a so called Pve focused game be so negatively effected by a Pvp side game. 6) Abandoned content and Daily quests. How long must we pay for WoW and get near nothing in return? Why aren't all of those dead inactive portals in Azeroth and outland leading to anywhere? Where is this portal worlds content in outland that lead to now zones? What happened to Hero classes? It's seems like you pay good money for new gear to be thrown on a vendor. What happened to actually developing on existing content? Instead you give me daily quests and turn one good aspect of WoW into a daily part time job? All to keep us paying and playing right?
Dude I can write a book on this bullshit I wrote a post maybe ten times this in note pad and decided to just add in the more important parts to keep it short. So many people praise this game, yet all I see are things blizzard keeps taking away. I would rather give my money to a developer that adds features that I want, that doesn't take away. I want to have fun and not be all stressed out bitching on the official forums because I feel cheated. Blizzard has failed to deliver a game I know their capable of.
Why would I play a pathetic themepark MMO when I could enjoy a masterpiece like Mass Effect, Oblivion, Fallout 3 and Dragon Age? |
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Originally posted by metalhead980 Blizzard is losing their more 'hardcore' gamers, so they are making the game more accessible to reach new markets. This has been going on since release. Still, it is the best game out there for the moment.
I doubt we will see WoW evolve to a more complex versatile and direction, Blizzard has a prize winning breed of cow, they are now in the process breeding their breed by focusing on its 'winning' abilities. |
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I have always enjoyed WoW, but I am currently unsubbed. Not that I have anything against the game or Blizzard; it's just that after 5 years, it is time to move on. Cataclysm looks cool, but I am afraid, that it may not be enough to suck me back in. It will take more than reskinning the lands of Azeroth to light the WoW fire for me again. We'll have to see when it comes out, but I think my main problem is that I am bored of the franchise. It was a good run, but there comes a time to move on, and I think I have reached it. |
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daarco
 Hard Core Member
Joined: 12/19/06
I have Darkfall now! |
I only play sandbox style MMOs, so WoW is no choice for me. |
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Murlocs, Elves, Gnomes, Orcs, pixies, tights, fairy dust, rainbows, unicorns, anything with "mana", magic missles, and more, is why I am not playing.
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Originally posted by metalhead980
Always nice to see good constructed posts like this that can avoid the 4 letter words and Mac Donalds and BS (in both meanings). IMO. I don't think you can do better than the complete design team of Blizzard though. If you see the roadmap of this game, you see a clear line with hundreds of different roads of design constructions. Let me give you ONE example: the philosophy of Wotlk. Now that this expansion enters its final stages with the Raids against Arthas, we can see more clearly now: 1. People have never before played MORE dungeons and Raids than in WotLK. I know friends who never entered a dungeon in the previous years. Let alone they raided... 2. Blizzard lowered the difficutly entrance to do dungeons, heroics AND raids with one purpose: more playing options than just do the typical level up stuff and solo play for a LOT of players. 3. Popular GROUP play and EXTENSIVE group play means one thing: scaled difficulty. From very easy to very hard. The thing is ... you can only promote group play if you can PUG it too, because a ... video game is played ... alone ... of course with friends ... but helas they are not ALL available when YOU want to play... See the picture? And now enter the different roads to that map: easy entry into dungeons and raids, dual specs, daily heroics to bridge the gaps, PUG's promoted game content, (patch 3.3) cross servers gameplay and ... PLAY with those millions available. I see a very clear picture here. Blizzard is pulling further and further away with it and while it may not be YOUR cup of (old) mmo tea. To me it gives me a LOT of more options for MY individual playing style. And I speak in the terms of the individual player.... -------- ---A last remark metalhead ---- and question too...(to be back on topic).... Don't you think that Blizzard doesn't have ALL that data. They know exactly who plays what, when and how ... So they know who don't play, they know who post X on forums ... but play Y ... in game. They know the bragging. They know what people like and don't like to play ...on their servers. Don't you think so ? |
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Originally posted by metalhead980
I agree with pretty much everything you said, and you definitely said it better than I could of! For me personally (and this is all just my opinion) WoW just feels like the "jack of all trades" of the genre, it offers a little bit of everything without ever excelling at any of it, its obvious they do this because it keeps people paying to play because the old school gamers (who used to be referred to as geeks) are now just the minority in the market, but Wow just isnt that appealing to me. I suppose its kind of like the Nintendo Wii in a way, the console easily outsells the Xbox 360 and PS3 but in general the games arent anywhere near as in depth or graphically stunning on the Wii as the other consoles, its just easier to pick up and play for those that arent looking for that truly in depth experience or those that dont really consider themselves "gamers" (like my wife).
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Originally posted by raystantz
When the purpose of a game is centered around completing content and getting the best gear, then the game runs out of uses after that content has been completed, the best gear gotten, or if a person has done all the content they desire out of that game. But when a game revolves around player made content and socialization, the game can last as long as there is either and as long as that person is interested in taking part in the community. I quit WoW because there was nothing left for me to do, that I was interested in doing. The new expansion might bring me back, but it's unlikely if the MMO's released next year can entertain me. There's so many games, both single player and MMO's that are due between now and when Cataclysm is supposed to be released, and only so much time to play them all. |
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Zorndorf, what part of the game are you in? What characters do you have?
Progression:
The game is just boring, I've played it into the ground and then rolled around in it's remains, then ate those remains and digested them for another year.
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Only reason I'm not playing wow, is the graphics suck. If they updated the graphics I would definitely play. |
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