and what would it take to bring you back?

for me, its the constant changes and gear outdate. The fact that gear is really the only purpose in the game. the terrible community and the constant publicity stuff. The focus more on trying to sell you stuff, than they do the game.

to get me back? They'd have to stop the "race to 80 and raid" mentality from the game.. and I don't see them doing such.

Only way I would come back is if they had a complete graphics overhaul.

I was playing with some friends. We were leveling to 80 and planned to do 10 mans and PVP. When I reached 75, I hit a brick wall. I lost interest to play. So I quit.

Now, I'm waiting for Cataclysm to release.

I've everything there is to do in the game besides the achievement system.

I've raided, PvP'd and blew through content.

I reached all my goals, and am bored with it.

I've been playing since November 2004, and the time has come to hang my hat up.

 Not playing because for me the game is limited and not fun. Its the same xpac after xpac. Actually I am more or less done with this genre as I am tired of the burnout and having to deal with the brats and jackasses that play these games these days. Community and decency is a thing of the past and I have WOW to thank for that. 

I'm actually resubbing sometime this month.....in my absence since April I've played:

• Aion
• Alganon*
• Dungeons and Dragons Online
• Realms of Magic
• Age of Conan
• Dragonica
• Jade Dynasty
• NeoSteam
• Karos
• S.U.N.
• Gates of Andaron
• Ether Saga Online
• Chronicles of The Spellborn
• LoTRO (again)

And I've come to the point where I'll spend my time waiting for ToR, STO and FFIV while playing WoW....the game is just overall the best fit for me. It's like traveling abroad and coming back to your country....yeah it may not be the best to everyone, but to me it's familiar and I feel confident enough to know what to expect.

Why am I not playing? I accomplished everything I set out to do by January of 2005. For me, I completed the game. That's how I am in MMO's, I set goals for myself because I don't have the time to raid or experience "End Game" content.

What would bring me back? Nothing. The game is over for me and though I've tried about 4 different times since my initial subscription ended, I could not get interest back in the game.

main reason is that i do not want to spend lots of time playing wow and wanted to be a casual. however WOW forcing me to be in an active guild to have fun . pugs and the community is really annoying.

I'm not playing WoW because there hasn't been any originality inside the meta-game, much less the mechanics of combat/crafting etc, for a long time now.

It's less casual friendly now as well, if you're a casual with goals. Because of just how fast gear resets, you're nearly forced to be a passive casual. It's the same old tale I've gotten caught up in twice before that I won't get caught up in this time around. Cata looks cool, but I know how disappointed things become after 2-3 months of play with friends, a purpose, and all the cards in a line.

It would take the original devs who left after vanilla and BC hit, to restore the game to its previous roots, and take it in a balanced direction, not one that caters to the current devs' mind eye about what subs want.

Oh, and I already beat Cata, so there's really nothing left in WoW. That's how easy it is, months before release.

Deathwing down. Game over.

Originally posted by arenasb

Only way I would come back is if they had a complete graphics overhaul.

Guess your in luck cause aren't they doing this with alot of the game in Cataclysm?  I recently started playing WoW, I mean I have played in the past, but never longer than a week or 2 at a time and never have I got a toon over 30.  So far I have found that possibly in the past I was on a shitty server that provided a shitty experience or never really had a quality group of people to play with.  This time around I found a decent group of people to play with on a different server and find myself actually enjoying the game.  I was going to hold off till Cataclysm came out as the graphics never really grabbed me that much, but this time around I have a better vid card and play the game on highest settings which eases my graphics dilema somewhat.  I think Cataclysm is going to be good for this game.

Too many serious people to want me to come back...No Vent? No group or guild invites. I meant wtf i didnt play a game to chat with people online like that.

IRL my friend was cussing me out calling me a noob and a waste of his time playing with cuz I quit. So yea, people like him is the reason I dont wanna come back and play.

I'm not playing WoW right now for several reasons.  /begin rant

1.) I too am tired of the driven focus on gear. I love new "shinies" just like the next person, but when they become the sole reason to log in and play...I get bored fast.  Especially once I'm geared pretty darn well....to strive for ONE MORE PIECE of 245 or higher  gear when I already have a really decent 232 piece in that same slot....seems....kind of pointless. I mean who am I really competing with and...why do I care?

The only other reason I log in now is to chat with the guild. I've been playing with these people for years. I enjoy them. But...I've temporarily cancelled my sub now, probably until Cataclysm, or something else captures my imagination again.

2.) For a long time, WoW felt like an epic adventure. Now, 5 years later, after three level 80s, many multiple level 70 and up, and characters of EVERY class and race (both Horde AND Alliance...on different servers)....I just can't get excited about playing any more. There's not likely many areas, including nooks and crannies, that I haven't explored, quested in, and pretty efficiently worn OUT.

3.) Thankfully...I'm beta testing another game that is keeping me pre-occupied. Filing bug reports at least gives me a sense of serving some PURPOSE in a game world, which WoW kind of lost for me after I got my druid and warlock to 80 and fairly well raid geared. My warrior's gear still sucks....and I just don't care.

4.) I don't feel like going through Outlands yet AGAIN with my lvl 58 priest...I've already DONE that with my warrior, warlock, druid, hunter, rogue, etc.  Blah....I don't care to do it again. And I don't feel like taking any more of my characters through Northrend, when my warrior, warlock, and druid have already been through all that content. Once you go through the content a couple of times....beyond that, it gets very redundant and starts feeling bland.

To get me to go back and STAY longer (ffs...I've already been there 5 years)....Blizzard is going to need to do a few things. Sure, I'll come back for Cataclysm (and probably any other expansion), but....I probably won't stay long beyond that. They will lose me for the length of time between expansions, save the two months it takes for me to wear out the content on all my toons again, unless I see the following:

1.) Player Housing

Yes, I know a lot of people don't care about it, but I do, and so do a lot of other people. It gives a sense of "belonging and permanency" in a game world. And I don't mean CRAP housing like in RoM or LotRO.  I mean HOUSING...like in Everquest 2, where you're not so ridiculously limited. By the way....a lot of people have been asking Blizzard for this...for YEARS now. Their lack of caring...is pissing me off.  Also....guild halls...where guilds can display the "spoils" of their labor. (More on that later.)

2.) More and BETTER crafting

Again....see EQ2. I want crafting that feels like more than just pushing a button, for one. Secondly, someone needs to make furniture and rare items for those houses. So I want to see an addition of lumberjacking and woodworking, at the very least. Hell...there could even be a profession for BUILDING HOUSES or interior design, for those of us with that "flair." I don't know. Something NEW that actually requires paying attention and not just having the right mats and hitting a freaking button. That is NOT crafting...that's...hitting a button.

Crafting really shouldn't be something that "easily appeals to everyone because it's SO fracking simplistic." That defeats the entire roleplaying PURPOSE of crafting. It should be a little challenging, and take some time and effort, like the mini game version of crafting EQ2 uses. THEN...not everyone would do it, and crafters would become a viable ROLE in the game, as they should be.

3.) A couple of ALL ADULT servers where your age has to be verified by credit card that matches your name and address, and hell...even photo ID, for all I care...it would be WORTH THE TROUBLE to mess with sending them anything they'd NEED to verify. And no...this isn't age-ism....they could also have Children Only servers, for all I care. I'm just sick of playing with 16 year olds. (No offense to the more mature 16 year olds, but I have CHILDREN much older than you, and I don't want to spend my personal recreation time playing with THEM either!)

4.) If they're going to continue to have PvP...then I want MEANINGFUL PvP.  BGs are nothing more than a diversion for people with short attention spans, imo. I have no problem with them continuing to have BGs and even Arena (which is really just Unreal Tournament dressed up in fantasy armor, with fantasy weapons instead of guns, so far as I'm concerned). Those things are fine, BUT...there needs to be an option for people that want PvP that.....a.) MATTERS, and b.) is open and not instanced, and c.) maybe...just maybe is based on lore and reason.

Perhaps the various faction leaders could send you on covert operations quests where you have to infiltrate enemy territory to bring back battle plans, or w/e, but OPEN PvP, where a raid on Stormwind would be EPIC (like it used to be before BGs and Arena, back in vanilla WoW when people raided the other faction because we HATED them...and it was FUN to just kill them because we were at WAR with them). And for rewards....let's bring back officer ranks and tabards that show your "position" in the Horde Military, or w/e, and give some love to the open PvP idea instead of herding people into instances....BLECH.

I know this idea is half-baked, but couldn't they do SOMETHING to make PvP less....idk....BORING, while still making it somewhat optional? I mean...if you don't attack the raiding faction players...you don't flag. It's already got "optional" built into it, but why not give some sort of rewards FOR participating? You know...like "fame" and "fortune" and guild crests to hang in the DAMN GUILD HALLS we STILL DON'T HAVE.

/end rant

I could easily continue, but this already is at TL:DR status, so....these are only a FEW of my gripes.

Originally posted by arenasb

Only way I would come back is if they had a complete graphics overhaul.

I agree, and a crafting overhaul wouldn't hurt. I'm playing Aion for both, and enjoying it so far.

i dont think i'll be returning to WOW, its not that its a bad game, but there is too much focus on raids etc. which i find boring. im not a big fan of instanced games anyway, so perhaps its time to leave  WOW for good anyway, i reached level 76, and discovered that if i wanted to progress i had to join the sheep in the baa'raid'athon, so for the moment im only playing eve, havent seen any other game out there at the moment that looks promising enough to replace WOW.

 I think I am done with that game now until the Cataclysm expansion. It is a real problem with Blizzard expansions, they expand the game with a month or so extra content, but after 6 months or so the game peters out. Still, all that written, if Cataclysm re-vamps the WoW classic starter zones I might play through it and the new content once more, but, I am a WoW player who quits when the expansions get dull!

 I am not sure what it would take to bring me back to WoW. I played all through to WOTLK getting 3 chars to 80 and just lost interest in the game as a whole. I am big on community being part of my enjoyment so that does rule out WoW due to the community being not my cup of tea.

I don't enjoy raiding, I just can't take it seriously, so end game PVP was my only option, but that has changed and now I have 3 children under the age 3 so my real world is filled with PVP .... I don't think I will be back for Cataclysm (I think that's the name of the expac).

I played for quite a while (about 18 months) but when TBC came out I could see where the game was going (never ending addition of new levels/gear) and it wasn't a direction I wanted to take.

Create a FFA PVP ruleset server and make it so the open world PVP is the best part of the game by giving the players something to fight for.  (which means, remove the BG's and arena's as well).  Also, make the games best gear obtainable for people who participate in the open world pvp, as opposed to pve questing.

Outside of that, I'm not willing to come back. 

I'm still playing it

At this moment I'm waiting for our healer to do a fast VH hc run :p

 "Why are you not playing WOW?" ....the question alone is already proof....

how great this game still is ... after 5 year and 2 expansions.

The average attention span of a video game is 3 months these days... and after 6 months you'll find it in the bin of the 5-10 dollars price range.

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--- Oh btw --- to me WOW was never about the gear, but always doing things that you wanted to have fun with.

The up gear was always only a means to an end (even more today than it was 4 years ago).

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I smile when I see people playing MMO's and when they reach end game they complain that the game keeps going... BEYOND the levels.

It shows people and players are not mature enough to play a "sandbox" game, because I play WOW already more than 4 years without gear becoming an obsession (unless you want a "Tier", but that's a goal, not a gear chase.

I always played for the titles and prestige, never for the gear and so achievements didn't make the difference for me at all. In fact Justicar or Challenger or Rival titles is what I play for ...

...and of course the feeling of ...

... have been there. I was there in BT, Gruul and Ulduar... Downing the first time that son of a bitch Moroes in first run Karazahn....

To see it all and have PVE/competitive PvP fun is far MORE than "meaningful" enough to me.

The only thing that could replace WOW is an historical game with historical insight in battles and with wargame roots, but that's just impossible, because too niche and the amateurs would replace the high standards I am used  to these days in WOW.

Always nice to see players struggle with WOW.

Even when they left for good they keep coming back in mind and heart. The biggest haters are more in love with the game than I am. :))))

What a game :)

Originally posted by Zorndorf

Troll Post

Don't feed the troll, folks.

@ Crenait

I chuckled. I really did. 10/10.

Originally posted by Crenait

Originally posted by Zorndorf

Troll Post

 

Don't feed the troll, folks.

lol almost did, hey i love playing wow but i see the flaws too, this guy freaks anytime anyone brings up any little thing about wow.

When I first played this game at launch, I played because of the open world pvp and set factions. I never intended to be a raider. As the game progressed, I accepted the addition of BG's. Not at first, but I eventually did. During this time I realized that my gear would always be less than a pve raider who went into these BG's. Plus the constant changes with nerfs, buffs and overall balance just turned into a mess. If BG's/Raids/Arenas were removed and my 4 friends were still playing who I originally started with back in the day, then maybe I would comeback. I know none of those things from my previous sentence will happen though, so oh well.

I just played it for too long.

I know all the areas, I know all classes and all their talents and skills. Even if since I stopped there came some new dungeons along, it's all about the same. Not to mention that raiding was what I enjoyed most, but I don't want to tie myself up anymore 3 or more times a week.

 i've been playing since the game started, done a lot, rolled a lot of alts.  Nearly 5 yrs is a long time to play any game, a person gets bored of things after a while.

So i don't log in very much anymore, and once i get a hold of some new games coming out, i prolly won't bother at all for awhile, doesn't really matter what they add into the game, i'm just finally bored of it and it happens, its not attention spans or anything like that, just when you know you're done, you know you're done.  =]