And there's games without bots? Which one? Name a single game without bots, just one with population over 100k, and heck, even below that. If you think there aren't any bots in EVERY MMO on the planet, then you are incredibly naive.

Originally posted by bahamut1

And there's games without bots? Which one? Name a single game without bots, just one with population over 100k, and heck, even below that. If you think there aren't any bots in EVERY MMO on the planet, then you are incredibly naive.

Every MMO has bots. There is only one MMO, that I am aware of (besides the F2P ones) that has more bots than Aion. That MMO is Lineage II.

This is not a matter of an MMO having bots. It's a matter of an MMO having bots and not doing anything about it.

Originally posted by heartless

Originally posted by bahamut1

And there's games without bots? Which one? Name a single game without bots, just one with population over 100k, and heck, even below that. If you think there aren't any bots in EVERY MMO on the planet, then you are incredibly naive.

Every MMO has bots. There is only one MMO, that I am aware of (besides the F2P ones) that has more bots than Aion. That MMO is Lineage II.

This is not a matter of an MMO having bots. It's a matter of an MMO having bots and not doing anything about it.

That is absolutely ludicrous? You really actually believe that? Seriously? WoW, and that does have a double meaning... just WoW... lol

EDIT: I would NEVER defend the botting in Aion or any game, and it is an absolute shame. The gold/kinah BUYERS are to blame obviously as they produce demand. But to actually say, and believe what you wrote is naive in the extreme.

Originally posted by heartless

Originally posted by bahamut1

And there's games without bots? Which one? Name a single game without bots, just one with population over 100k, and heck, even below that. If you think there aren't any bots in EVERY MMO on the planet, then you are incredibly naive.

Every MMO has bots. There is only one MMO, that I am aware of (besides the F2P ones) that has more bots than Aion. That MMO is Lineage II.

This is not a matter of an MMO having bots. It's a matter of an MMO having bots and not doing anything about it.

still waiting on my first bot lookout n Fallen earth or even any gold spam (whispers, mail, on chat).

while in Aion, everytime i logged in i had to block at least 10 in the first 2 mins in order to see my chat screen

Originally posted by bahamut1

Originally posted by heartless

Originally posted by bahamut1

And there's games without bots? Which one? Name a single game without bots, just one with population over 100k, and heck, even below that. If you think there aren't any bots in EVERY MMO on the planet, then you are incredibly naive.

Every MMO has bots. There is only one MMO, that I am aware of (besides the F2P ones) that has more bots than Aion. That MMO is Lineage II.

This is not a matter of an MMO having bots. It's a matter of an MMO having bots and not doing anything about it.

 

That is absolutely ludicrous? You really actually believe that? Seriously? WoW, and that does have a double meaning... just WoW... lol

EDIT: I would NEVER defend the botting in Aion or any game, and it is an absolute shame. The gold/kinah BUYERS are to blame obviously as they produce demand. But to actually say, and believe what you wrote is naive in the extreme.

WoW doesn't have as many bots as Aion. Never did. I played it since closed beta and while I did see bots, they were never as numerous as they are in Aion.

The gold spam also never got as bad as it was in Aion just a little while ago.

Wow never seen legions of botters lol that would make gm's work so easy if they ban some of them.

On spatolos I see some but never seen botters with legions.

Ps I'm in no way defending the game but you can never be 100% sure (apart of the random named players ofc) that it is a bot I saw people playing in english servers that don't know english funny eh? but still there are people like this dunno why tough.

There are people that hate questing so they grind on mobs, will you call them bots? I don't think you go to talk to them to see if they are bots (excluding random named "players")

imo grinding provides loads of gold, can drop you green/white/other color gear that nets lots of kinah and sometimes greater exp so there is some "profit" if you prefer to grind than questing.

The "botwall" really becomes evident from 30+. Around Beluslan on my - not very populated - server, there is typical around 15+ players with no legion and with names like "wdsasdwasd" or " lknm" farming either alone or in pairs - 2 and 2. Its typical hard melee characters, i dont think i ever seen a Sorcerer botfarm, i just dont think they are very good bots. We report them in again and again and it dosnt help. I hear that the support go home around 16.30 btw ( lol). Its not really that difficult to avoid - you just farm with a friend or 2 in the Abyss instead. Or you can simply move away from the city surruondings.

But getting mobs stolen by bots isnt really the problem. The problem is that ppl Auto play to lvl 35-40(prolly all the way to 50 really). Buy up all the good stuff on Broker, underbid non bots ( i have my rares underbidded by known bots more then once) and then finish with a venture to abyss ganking lower lvls ppl who are strugling to get up in lvl. Then let the bot take over and go to sleep. Having bots in the game simply meens that someone cheats. It gives some ppl a unfair advantages. Is NC soft going to respond faster when speedhacks or hp hacks starts to surface?

The absolutely best and prolly only solution is to let the players deal with the bots. A simply voting system would solve the problem. 3 votes and you get a 30 min lock out - unless you fill out a reconciliation test. That would ruin it for bots who arent at the computer and cant log in again. 3 Lockouts and you get banned.

NC Soft has always had a bad track record for having excess ammounts of gold selling and bot farming, and they've never really did much about it. They pretend to, and they say they are doing things, but they never REALLY control the problem. Personally I think it's because they are secretly behind the gold selling, but thats just my opinion. From what I've heard of the game so far, it seems a lot like Lineage 2, so I won't be playing it.

Originally posted by bloodaxes

Wow never seen legions of botters lol that would make gm's work so easy if they ban some of them.

On spatolos I see some but never seen botters with legions.

Ps I'm in no way defending the game but you can never be 100% sure (apart of the random named players ofc) that it is a bot I saw people playing in english servers that don't know english funny eh? but still there are people like this dunno why tough.

There are people that hate questing so they grind on mobs, will you call them bots? I don't think you go to talk to them to see if they are bots (excluding random named "players")

imo grinding provides loads of gold, can drop you green/white/other color gear that nets lots of kinah and sometimes greater exp so there is some "profit" if you prefer to grind than questing.

You're right, you can never tell but in my experience most legit players use titles because of the stat bonuses. On the other had, besides having gibberish names, bots almost never use titles.

Oh and if I'm confused about whether I'm looking at a player or a bot, I try to talk to them to make sure. Don't want to report a legit player who's just grinding.

Originally posted by bahamut1

Originally posted by heartless

Originally posted by bahamut1

And there's games without bots? Which one? Name a single game without bots, just one with population over 100k, and heck, even below that. If you think there aren't any bots in EVERY MMO on the planet, then you are incredibly naive.

Every MMO has bots. There is only one MMO, that I am aware of (besides the F2P ones) that has more bots than Aion. That MMO is Lineage II.

This is not a matter of an MMO having bots. It's a matter of an MMO having bots and not doing anything about it.

 

That is absolutely ludicrous? You really actually believe that? Seriously? WoW, and that does have a double meaning... just WoW... lol

EDIT: I would NEVER defend the botting in Aion or any game, and it is an absolute shame. The gold/kinah BUYERS are to blame obviously as they produce demand. But to actually say, and believe what you wrote is naive in the extreme.

I have had the unfortunate experience of playing every major MMO since EQ.   I can say without a shadow of a doubt that AION has more bots than I've ever seen.

I counted a bot train in Mordheim this weekend of 50 deep. That's 50 bots running the same path just outside of the fortress in the PvE area.

The problem is twofold :

1. NCSoft isn't banning any of these accounts.  The botters have even gone so far to create "Bot Legions." They don't even care. Why should they, apparently NCSoft doesn't care either.

2. Grind.  The game is a grinder, and it a game such as this is going to promote the path of least resistance.  Grind without being in front of the PC is the least resistance possible.

The bottom line is, until NCSoft gets GMs that give a damn or are even present, this is going to continue, to the peril of AION.

Botting is pretty awful, I agree. People piss and moan either way, though. NCSoft does a mass banning and everyone's up in arms because some legit players got swept out with the bad ones. I agree I'd be pretty pissed if my account got tagged when I'm so totally opposed to gold selling, so I see where those people are coming from. Same thing with NCSoft and Game Guard. They use it, and disabled gamers complain because they can't macro. Just seems like NCSoft is between a rock and a hard place and they can't win.

Anyhow, despite the botting, I do like Aion. I found myself camping a spot for a 2 hour long killing spree, and the time just flew by. I never knew I could have so much fun camping. Haven't really done that since my EQ days. I get tired of running around for quests. Sometimes you want to just stay in one area and kill stuff until you don't want to kill stuff anymore.

I run 8 legions on one server... thats a lot of characters.

There are new players joining all the time and of course we are starting to wave good bye to those that were never going to make it in the first place.

Things are progressing nicely but ofc it is still early days.

Join Aion with a bit of maturity a relaxed attitude and an acceptance that its preodominatly all about getting to a high enough level for the community to see you as serious.

Originally posted by Thunderballs

 

 

I run 8 legions on one server... thats a lot of characters.

There are new players joining all the time and of course we are starting to wave good bye to those that were never going to make it in the first place.

Things are progressing nicely but ofc it is still early days.

Join Aion with a bit of maturity a relaxed attitude and an acceptance that its preodominatly all about getting to a high enough level for the community to see you as serious.

 

 

I don't think "mature" and "Aion community" belong in the same paragraph.

In all honesty, the community is one of the most vilest I have seen in an MMO to date. Not that there aren't some decent folks in it but the majority seems to be 4chan rejects.

Originally posted by avalon1000

Nezekan is owned by Asmodians.  All our best Elyos legions are gone (along with the players).  On the Elyos side bots equal the number of players.  The game is so poorly run that I am cancelling my sub.  I will not give money to people such as NCSoft ever again. 

How is it it so poorly run ?

On preselect I was able to log in 15 minutes after the published launch time and reserve my character names.  

The same happened on headstart launch (yes I weas in the game and levellign within 15 minutes of the published opening)

I havent had one game crash at all (yes including large scale pvp)

I dont know why so many people seem to think they need a GM or technical support on hand to wipe theur ass forthem 24/7, but i have needed neither.

I have answered several in game surveys and the issues they concerend were actioned very quickly all things considered.

I think the people compalaining about bots are far too focused on what other people are doing and not enough on themselves and what they can do.   Complaining bots steal your quest mobs or screw the economy are just nonsensical at this point in the games history.   It is a long way to level 50 and most players that achieve in mmorpgs simply dont use lame excuses like a bot stole my quest mob or have hissy fits when they see them ..they are largely irrelevant and a mild inconvenience at worst.

Aion is polished and full of content whether you like pve or pvp - again at this point in the games history, only those lacking in imagination,  ability or simply dont understant Aions positioning visa v thepve/pvp balance, would say otherwise imo

Complaining about legions at this time belies immense stupidity.   Less than 5% of the player base is at end game and we are only just getting a feel for who is subscribing to the game after the first month.  There is plenty of opportunity for good leaders to create new legions and for players of all persuasions to participate in creating successful teams.   Existing legions have plenty to do and achieve and their work has only just begun.

In no way shape or form could a reasonable person describe this as a badly run or under developed  mmorpg.

Originally posted by Thunderballs

In no way shape or form could a reasonable person describle this as a badly run or under developed  mmorpg.

 

Guess there are thousands of unreasonable people quitting Aion.

Quick question; does NCSoft pay by check for posts like these, or is it a direct-deposit mechanism?  Are you paid by post, or get a flat rate?

And seriously...you run 8 legions?  On one server?  Yeah...

Originally posted by gummy52

Every night at primetime all servers reach that "full" orange text.

This doomsday thing is really getting old. No matter how much made up crap is posted nothing will change the fact that Aion is a great game. It's only evident in posts such as "25-30 is such a grind" when a single run of NTC provides 75% of a level in 40 minutes. Comments such as "You can't PvP until 40+" make me laugh. By level 27 I had over 200 kills in the Abyss just from ganking with one other person, a Gladiator--myself a Ranger.

The whole "It's an eastern game, we westerners don't like it" has to be the stupidest crap i've ever read. People over in Asia are humans too--if a game is grindy and dry, they wont like it either. I tire of the "L2 failed in the west which proves Aion will too" thing is equally stupid. L2 failed in the west because it failed in the east. Aion is doing great in the west because it is doing great in the east. Aion conintues to be successful in Korea--so even if the whole "aion has to die because it didnt kill wow" theory proves correct, anyone who enjoys this game can play on their extremly populated servers.
 

I guess it depends on what you call successful.

Considering the original queues of THOUSANDS of people, I'd say that a full server with no queues means jack shit.

Secondly Aion has nothing to keep people playing at the high end.    It's been proven over and over that this is where the rubber hits the road.  

Lastly the game will do well, since it's reasonably well designed at the lower levels, but overall it's another WoW clone done poorly in the long term and lacking the overall depth of WoW.

It will have subs but it's going to dwindle more and more.   

Originally posted by Malifiss

Originally posted by Thunderballs

In no way shape or form could a reasonable person describle this as a badly run or under developed  mmorpg.

 

 

Guess there are thousands of unreasonable people quitting Aion.

Quick question; does NCSoft pay by check for posts for these, or is it a direct-deposit mechanism?  Are you paid by post, or get a flat rate?

They are most likely immature people if they are genuinely quitting because they think the game is badly run.    To assume that someone who has not subscribed agrees withthe posters comments I quoted is ....dumb ..nevermind unreasonable..

Most Mature players understand thaat mmorgs are at the forefront of gaming technologies.   We dont like it,  but we expect technical difficulties,  polish and content issues with all mmorpgs, let alone new launches. 

Mature players are imo far more likely to quit over gameplay/design issues or a broken end game.  Statistics show a tiny %Aion USA/EU of players have reached end game.

Every mmorpg sees a % of people not subscribe, to assume these people dont subscribe because they think the game uis badkly run is just naive speculation and unreasonable assumption unles you can back it up sceientifically.

Originally posted by Malifiss

Originally posted by Thunderballs

In no way shape or form could a reasonable person describle this as a badly run or under developed  mmorpg.

 

 

Guess there are thousands of unreasonable people quitting Aion.

Quick question; does NCSoft pay by check for posts like these, or is it a direct-deposit mechanism?  Are you paid by post, or get a flat rate?

And seriously...you run 8 legions?  On one server?  Yeah...

Well, being that you don't need anyone else to start a legion and being that you can have up to 8 characters total... All of my characters run legions too.

Originally posted by Stevon

Originally posted by gummy52

Every night at primetime all servers reach that "full" orange text.

This doomsday thing is really getting old. No matter how much made up crap is posted nothing will change the fact that Aion is a great game. It's only evident in posts such as "25-30 is such a grind" when a single run of NTC provides 75% of a level in 40 minutes. Comments such as "You can't PvP until 40+" make me laugh. By level 27 I had over 200 kills in the Abyss just from ganking with one other person, a Gladiator--myself a Ranger.

The whole "It's an eastern game, we westerners don't like it" has to be the stupidest crap i've ever read. People over in Asia are humans too--if a game is grindy and dry, they wont like it either. I tire of the "L2 failed in the west which proves Aion will too" thing is equally stupid. L2 failed in the west because it failed in the east. Aion is doing great in the west because it is doing great in the east. Aion conintues to be successful in Korea--so even if the whole "aion has to die because it didnt kill wow" theory proves correct, anyone who enjoys this game can play on their extremly populated servers.
 

I guess it depends on what you call successful.

Considering the original queues of THOUSANDS of people, I'd say that a full server with no queues means jack shit.

Secondly Aion has nothing to keep people playing at the high end.    It's been proven over and over that this is where the rubber hits the road.  

Lastly the game will do well, since it's reasonably well designed at the lower levels, but overall it's another WoW clone done poorly in the long term and lacking the overall depth of WoW.

It will have subs but it's going to dwindle more and more.   

Can also look at it like what EQ did back in the day.

At launch they used to show server numbers so you knew how many people were on a given server at that specific time. Some servers were above 5k players at prime time, others were below 1200 players. Soon they switched to the whole 'Full, Medium, Low' tags (think around the time of AC's launch) and when that happened, servers that were known to be really low pop ended up showing a 'full' tag next to it. Basically server population messages that run on the whole 'Full, Medium, Low' tagging system mean nothing because you have no idea what they set the 'Full' threshold at. For all we know 'Full' means 1k+ players on the server when the server can hold a max of 5k.

Unless they show actual current population numbers instead of 'Full, Medium, Low' next to the server name, I wont trust it as a sign that the population is growing/holding.

Infact I think Auto Assult had full servers as well all the way upto the plug being pulled...

Wasnt that also an Ncsoft published title?

Originally posted by Stevon

Originally posted by gummy52

Every night at primetime all servers reach that "full" orange text.

This doomsday thing is really getting old. No matter how much made up crap is posted nothing will change the fact that Aion is a great game. It's only evident in posts such as "25-30 is such a grind" when a single run of NTC provides 75% of a level in 40 minutes. Comments such as "You can't PvP until 40+" make me laugh. By level 27 I had over 200 kills in the Abyss just from ganking with one other person, a Gladiator--myself a Ranger.

The whole "It's an eastern game, we westerners don't like it" has to be the stupidest crap i've ever read. People over in Asia are humans too--if a game is grindy and dry, they wont like it either. I tire of the "L2 failed in the west which proves Aion will too" thing is equally stupid. L2 failed in the west because it failed in the east. Aion is doing great in the west because it is doing great in the east. Aion conintues to be successful in Korea--so even if the whole "aion has to die because it didnt kill wow" theory proves correct, anyone who enjoys this game can play on their extremly populated servers.
 

I guess it depends on what you call successful.

Considering the original queues of THOUSANDS of people, I'd say that a full server with no queues means jack shit.

Secondly Aion has nothing to keep people playing at the high end.    It's been proven over and over that this is where the rubber hits the road.  

Lastly the game will do well, since it's reasonably well designed at the lower levels, but overall it's another WoW clone done poorly in the long term and lacking the overall depth of WoW.

It will have subs but it's going to dwindle more and more.   

I played vanilla wow from day 1...I can tel lyou now there wasnt much in wows end game..even less if you were not in a guild doing 40 man raids all day long. Took a while for enough guilds to form so players had a choice.  even then it took months before a pvp system was in place and any other new content added.

We haven't got enough players at end game to know if they will stay in numberss or not. People not subscribing who have level 50 characters istherefore,  by default,  a tiny % of those that are not subscribing.   People who are not  subscribing are therefore largely doing so  for  reasons that are nothing to do with Aions end game.

The mmorpg market is dynamic and changes somewhat after every large scale mmorpg launch.   The player base is very different to what it was when WOW and the older mmogs launched. It is somewhat polarised now between a generation with little experience of mmorpgs other than WOWs TBC and Wolk, perhaps even less, and thosewith earlier or other mmorpg experience gained over years of play.    

In may be your opinion that Aions subswill dwindle but that a business certainty so you are not really saying anything here.  They question is what sub levels will Aion have months down the line and NCsoft dont know that never mind people posting on here that rage quitted the game because  they cant hack a bit of leveling and some death penalties or were too damn lazy to read up about what Aion was designed to be before they bought the game.

Originally posted by Tyvolus1 

Let me say this all AGAIN.  I, as an Elyos, level 24 have not encountered a bot legion.  The PCs in those pictures may all be banned by now. 
 

ALSO, I Will say (yet again) I realize there are bots in AION -- there are bots in wow, etc etc etc --   As I also said, it is being blown way out of proportion.

As I said, I have NEVER had a problem, finishing a quest and/or getting KSd from any bots.

As I said., the vast majortiy of PCs I run into are legit GUILDED players.

Your pictures prove nothing then what has been admitted by me and others before -- yes AION has bots, as does every other freaking MMO.  You dont think wow has bots ? 

Again, the problem is not as big as you make it to be.  Also, dont call me out to spend time levelling an ALT, I play the game every day, and I have long maintained, where my character is and will prove to anyone that there is not a bot problem where I am at.  Someone specifically claimed where I was you couldnt even quest there were so many bots.  Funny I spent that day questing with ZERO problems.

I have been playing since release and am barely 24 and you think Im going to roll an Asmo just to see that you are some raging drama queen ?  no thanks.   Come to Lumiel, anyone who doesnt beleive me, and I will show you the bot problem isnt the issue you and others claim it to be.

Yea I said that. And it's true. You can dismiss the problem all you want by saying "But but WoW has bots too!" but the issue still stands. This isn't WoW. The bots in Aion are out of control. And no one is going to create a newb character on your server to show you that you're wrong, because we already know you're wrong.

So first you say there are hardly any bots, then you're shown pics of a bunch of them. Then you say you've never seen a bot legion (which is hilarious, btw..do you really even play this game?) And after being shown pics of them, you STILL say bots are not a problem.

Sorry to bring up this old subject but I was gone for a few days and missed all the other posts.

Originally posted by Stevon

Originally posted by gummy52

Every night at primetime all servers reach that "full" orange text.

This doomsday thing is really getting old. No matter how much made up crap is posted nothing will change the fact that Aion is a great game. It's only evident in posts such as "25-30 is such a grind" when a single run of NTC provides 75% of a level in 40 minutes. Comments such as "You can't PvP until 40+" make me laugh. By level 27 I had over 200 kills in the Abyss just from ganking with one other person, a Gladiator--myself a Ranger.

The whole "It's an eastern game, we westerners don't like it" has to be the stupidest crap i've ever read. People over in Asia are humans too--if a game is grindy and dry, they wont like it either. I tire of the "L2 failed in the west which proves Aion will too" thing is equally stupid. L2 failed in the west because it failed in the east. Aion is doing great in the west because it is doing great in the east. Aion conintues to be successful in Korea--so even if the whole "aion has to die because it didnt kill wow" theory proves correct, anyone who enjoys this game can play on their extremly populated servers.
 

I guess it depends on what you call successful.

Considering the original queues of THOUSANDS of people, I'd say that a full server with no queues means jack shit.

Secondly Aion has nothing to keep people playing at the high end.    It's been proven over and over that this is where the rubber hits the road.  

Lastly the game will do well, since it's reasonably well designed at the lower levels, but overall it's another WoW clone done poorly in the long term and lacking the overall depth of WoW.

It will have subs but it's going to dwindle more and more.   

That's beyond naive. Every major MMO that was heavily hyped since WoW went live has had a massive influx of people trying the game out. The hype draws them like flies. Similarly the greater majority has seen drops in those numbers soon afterward, for a myriad of reasons.

I can list quite a few:

1. They wanted to try the first 30 days because they don't want to invest/don't have the available cash beyond the box purchase.

2. They bulldozed ahead to be maxed out level-wise only to find they were pretty well alone, and quickly bored.

3. Bugs, crashes, PC hardware/driver issues, etc., drove them away.

4. The game didn't have the right 'look' or 'feel', so they quit.

5. Problems with getting into groups or finding the 'right' guild frustrated them early on.

6. Griefers and gank squads.

And I  have no doubt there are plenty of other reasons out there - all personal and individual. You hopefully get the idea here. And as someone has already pointed out, you can't tell actual server numbers from 'recommended', regardless of what you may personally believe.

As for end game and Aion having 'nothing' to keep players around, what facts are you basing this on?

Originally posted by Slythe

Originally posted by Tyvolus1 

Let me say this all AGAIN.  I, as an Elyos, level 24 have not encountered a bot legion.  The PCs in those pictures may all be banned by now. 
 

ALSO, I Will say (yet again) I realize there are bots in AION -- there are bots in wow, etc etc etc --   As I also said, it is being blown way out of proportion.

As I said, I have NEVER had a problem, finishing a quest and/or getting KSd from any bots.

As I said., the vast majortiy of PCs I run into are legit GUILDED players.

Your pictures prove nothing then what has been admitted by me and others before -- yes AION has bots, as does every other freaking MMO.  You dont think wow has bots ? 

Again, the problem is not as big as you make it to be.  Also, dont call me out to spend time levelling an ALT, I play the game every day, and I have long maintained, where my character is and will prove to anyone that there is not a bot problem where I am at.  Someone specifically claimed where I was you couldnt even quest there were so many bots.  Funny I spent that day questing with ZERO problems.

I have been playing since release and am barely 24 and you think Im going to roll an Asmo just to see that you are some raging drama queen ?  no thanks.   Come to Lumiel, anyone who doesnt beleive me, and I will show you the bot problem isnt the issue you and others claim it to be.

Yea I said that. And it's true. You can dismiss the problem all you want by saying "But but WoW has bots too!" but the issue still stands. This isn't WoW. The bots in Aion are out of control. And no one is going to create a newb character on your server to show you that you're wrong, because we already know you're wrong.

So first you say there are hardly any bots, then you're shown pics of a bunch of them. Then you say you've never seen a bot legion (which is hilarious, btw..do you really even play this game?) And after being shown pics of them, you STILL say bots are not a problem.

Sorry to bring up this old subject but I was gone for a few days and missed all the other posts.

 

While this is mostly true, there was a bot guild in WoW too so...to try and single Aion out for a problem that all commercial MMOs have is pretty dumb.

 I personally love the GAME itself as does the majority of my legion.  We pit ourselves against the bots on a daily basis and make a valiant effort to make sure they are banned from the game.  

The biggest problem I feel is the  abundance of oceanic players using proxies to create accounts on North American and European servers which is where your bots come from more than anywhere else.  They farm it, and we buy it. Simple as that. 

Also, the problems with Time Warner and Comcast internet services causing massive pings and being part of the "hops" almost everyones isp's must go through to get to Dallas where the servers are is also prettty annoying.  

But, I have a dream that one day, all the whiners will be gone.  Botting will be pointless because only the loyal player base will be left and an influx of new players will emerge once the bugs are ironed out and Aion in all it's glory shines forth. 

You'll see.

Jujdred

Asmodian

Exiled

Originally posted by mmaize

Originally posted by Slythe

Originally posted by Tyvolus1 

Let me say this all AGAIN.  I, as an Elyos, level 24 have not encountered a bot legion.  The PCs in those pictures may all be banned by now. 
 

ALSO, I Will say (yet again) I realize there are bots in AION -- there are bots in wow, etc etc etc --   As I also said, it is being blown way out of proportion.

As I said, I have NEVER had a problem, finishing a quest and/or getting KSd from any bots.

As I said., the vast majortiy of PCs I run into are legit GUILDED players.

Your pictures prove nothing then what has been admitted by me and others before -- yes AION has bots, as does every other freaking MMO.  You dont think wow has bots ? 

Again, the problem is not as big as you make it to be.  Also, dont call me out to spend time levelling an ALT, I play the game every day, and I have long maintained, where my character is and will prove to anyone that there is not a bot problem where I am at.  Someone specifically claimed where I was you couldnt even quest there were so many bots.  Funny I spent that day questing with ZERO problems.

I have been playing since release and am barely 24 and you think Im going to roll an Asmo just to see that you are some raging drama queen ?  no thanks.   Come to Lumiel, anyone who doesnt beleive me, and I will show you the bot problem isnt the issue you and others claim it to be.

Yea I said that. And it's true. You can dismiss the problem all you want by saying "But but WoW has bots too!" but the issue still stands. This isn't WoW. The bots in Aion are out of control. And no one is going to create a newb character on your server to show you that you're wrong, because we already know you're wrong.

So first you say there are hardly any bots, then you're shown pics of a bunch of them. Then you say you've never seen a bot legion (which is hilarious, btw..do you really even play this game?) And after being shown pics of them, you STILL say bots are not a problem.

Sorry to bring up this old subject but I was gone for a few days and missed all the other posts.

 

 

While this is mostly true, there was a bot guild in WoW too so...to try and single Aion out for a problem that all commercial MMOs have is pretty dumb.

I really hate these comparisons to WoW. WoW had a bot guild? So what? At it's worst, the bot problem in WoW was nowhere as bad as the bot problem in Aion right now. Also, unlike NCSoft, Blizzard actually cares enough to actively combat the bots and the spammers. They took Peons4Hire and Glider to court.

Again, the problem is not the fact that there are bots or bot legions. The problem is that NCSoft does nothing about them.