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Originally posted by Simiel Oh and Interesting first post. Glad to see you made a second account just to make this post and hide your true identity. Have some guts and admit who you are... |
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heartless
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Imagination will often carry us to worlds that never were. But without it we go nowhere. -Carl Sagan |
Originally posted by Tyvolus1 Lets clear a few things up. First off, I have said I have seen bots in AION. What I did say was at least 9 out of 10 PCs I see in game are REAL PLAYERS. I also have said, I have gone entire play sessions without seeing any suspected bots. Come to Lumiel, meet up with me AND I WILL SHOW YOU. So, I am not saying bots dont exist in AION. They exist in every MMO I have played -- yes, including wow. So the issue isnt are there bots -- the issue is, is it as out of control as you drama queens are trying so hard to make it be ? -- the answer is NO. For example, let me show you how selective you people are -- you and others have rambled on about BOT LEGIONS all controlling zones and all mobs and people cant quest -- etc etc etc -- LIES. Your pictures of a few random, lone bots mean nothing other then what I have already admitted -- there are bots in AION -- just not nearly as many as you people claim. But there are bots in wow and other MMOs too -- So, whats your point ? I can buy gold for wow -- so I guess wow is overrun by bots and gold farmers ? Get a clue guy. This is a problem for the entire MMO scene. It is not however anything new or isolated to any one game and it is not anything that should prevetn someone from enjoying the game of your choice. Here is the bottom line -- in 10 years I have played alot of MMOs. I have seen bots in them all -- I could if I chose to, I could buy gold or power levelling services in ANY and ALL of them. My offer stands, come to LUMIEL and we will see if this problem is a fraction of what you and others claim to be. You and your friends are drama queens. Plain and Simple. First of all some of the pics I have posted contain bots that are in the same area, killing the same mobs. One of the pictures I posted, had three bots who literally farmed out the whole lake. The other pics had two bots farming Spriggs in the same area. Only one of the bots I have posted was all alone and that's the bot that was in the snowy area. Second of all, I don't need to go to your server to see bots. I have enough on the server I play on. Of course there are more real players than bots. Any idiot can figure that out. But there are a lot of bots. More than in any MMO I have seen, excluding Lineage II. Even using your estimate, 1 out of 10 is still a lot if the population is large. What's bad is because of the way kill rights work in Aion, these bots can be disruptive to real players. They and their gold also mess up the in-game economy. Look, you can pretend that bots are a non-issue and call people out to come to your server (which is only one server out of fourteen total btw) all you want, the fact is that the bots are there. I've seen them, others have seen them and just because you haven't been affected by them, it doesn't mean that every one else is lying. And lastly, instead of calling others out, when you know that no one in their right mind will level a character to 20 on another server and another faction just to prove you wrong, why don't you level an asmo character on another server and prove yourself wrong?
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heartless
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Joined: 1/05/04
Imagination will often carry us to worlds that never were. But without it we go nowhere. -Carl Sagan |
Originally posted by glofish
I play Aion, however, I don't look at it through rose tinted glasses. I know that it has problems and I acknowledge them. Aion devs know that the game has problems and that's why they are working on ways to fix them. Playing down Aion's problems and deliberately misleading people, as some people have done on these boards, is doing this game a disservice and creates more and more disgruntled players.
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Originally posted by heartless Lets clear a few things up. First off, I have said I have seen bots in AION. What I did say was at least 9 out of 10 PCs I see in game are REAL PLAYERS. I also have said, I have gone entire play sessions without seeing any suspected bots. Come to Lumiel, meet up with me AND I WILL SHOW YOU. So, I am not saying bots dont exist in AION. They exist in every MMO I have played -- yes, including wow. So the issue isnt are there bots -- the issue is, is it as out of control as you drama queens are trying so hard to make it be ? -- the answer is NO. For example, let me show you how selective you people are -- you and others have rambled on about BOT LEGIONS all controlling zones and all mobs and people cant quest -- etc etc etc -- LIES. Your pictures of a few random, lone bots mean nothing other then what I have already admitted -- there are bots in AION -- just not nearly as many as you people claim. But there are bots in wow and other MMOs too -- So, whats your point ? I can buy gold for wow -- so I guess wow is overrun by bots and gold farmers ? Get a clue guy. This is a problem for the entire MMO scene. It is not however anything new or isolated to any one game and it is not anything that should prevetn someone from enjoying the game of your choice. Here is the bottom line -- in 10 years I have played alot of MMOs. I have seen bots in them all -- I could if I chose to, I could buy gold or power levelling services in ANY and ALL of them. My offer stands, come to LUMIEL and we will see if this problem is a fraction of what you and others claim to be. You and your friends are drama queens. Plain and Simple. First of all some of the pics I have posted contain bots that are in the same area, killing the same mobs. One of the pictures I posted, had three bots who literally farmed out the whole lake. The other pics had two bots farming Spriggs in the same area. Only one of the bots I have posted was all alone and that's the bot that was in the snowy area. Second of all, I don't need to go to your server to see bots. I have enough on the server I play on. Of course there are more real players than bots. Any idiot can figure that out. But there are a lot of bots. More than in any MMO I have seen, excluding Lineage II. Even using your estimate, 1 out of 10 is still a lot if the population is large. What's bad is because of the way kill rights work in Aion, these bots can be disruptive to real players. They and their gold also mess up the in-game economy. Look, you can pretend that bots are a non-issue and call people out to come to your server (which is only one server out of fourteen total btw) all you want, the fact is that the bots are there. I've seen them, others have seen them and just because you haven't been affected by them, it doesn't mean that every one else is lying. And lastly, instead of calling others out, when you know that no one in their right mind will level a character to 20 on another server and another faction just to prove you wrong, why don't you level an asmo character on another server and prove yourself wrong? good idea. I will level an Asmo just to find out that you and others are the drama queens I know you to be. if the problems were as big as you and others claim to be, this would be all servers all races etc. Not to mention, I have been in the zones and areas someone claimed you couldnt kill any quest mobs -- lol. too funny and also ironic as I just spent most of the day breezing through quests in said area. guess it happens everywhere else except where I am ? Also, if you want to quote me do it right: I said at least 9 out of 10 are legit players. AT LEAST. Take wow for example, in my experience in that game, at least 9 out of 10 were legit players as well. Like I said before and will again, you are blowing this way out of proportion. It is so comical you think I would level an alt to 20 just to prove that YOU AND OTHERS are the liars. LOL -- you are too funny. I have a level 24. I dont need to level alts to prove you are full of it. Also, I love the fact you need to add to your pics all these fantastical stories about what is going on. Those pics are all lone PCs. Show us these bot legions you and others talked about. Funny how you cant prove that lie. Just some random lone PCs spread out over a zone. guess they killed everyhing and no one can level, huh ? ya, nice one -- I believe that people cant level because of bots all over the place -- too funny. If that were the case, EVERYONE would quit. Anyways, keep talking - because my offer still stands. Until someone can step up and prove me wrong I am the one calling you and others out -- STILL CALLING YOU AND ANYONE ELSE OUT -- Oh and show us a bot legion pic -- Ya, lol, you ran your mouth about it -- show me a bot legion SS -- too bad you cant. LIES. Enjoy. |
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Originally posted by heartless
I play Aion, however, I don't look at it through rose tinted glasses. I know that it has problems and I acknowledge them. Aion devs know that the game has problems and that's why they are working on ways to fix them. Playing down Aion's problems and deliberately misleading people, as some people have done on these boards, is doing this game a disservice and creates more and more disgruntled players.
Neither do I. Dont be so quick to prove how ignorant you are. On 11.30 I will /QUIT if I still crash. GAME OVER. QUIT. The game has issues, but the bot stories are grossly over-exaggerated beyong belief. The system crashes are very real and a big problems for me. on 11/30 I am gone if it isnt fixed. I hope I dont have to, as I find the game quite enjoyable. But the fact remains, I wont play any game if I find a game breaking problem. And AION has one that must be fixed for me to stay. |
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Originally posted by heartless
I play Aion, however, I don't look at it through rose tinted glasses. I know that it has problems and I acknowledge them. Aion devs know that the game has problems and that's why they are working on ways to fix them. Playing down Aion's problems and deliberately misleading people, as some people have done on these boards, is doing this game a disservice and creates more and more disgruntled players. If telling people the truth is a disservice then I am guilty. Still waiting on those bot legion pics you got all drama queen on... |
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Originally posted by Tyvolus1 Oh and Interesting first post. Glad to see you made a second account just to make this post and hide your true identity. Have some guts and admit who you are... ahahahha, again, another reason why the game is hated, people like you. Are you really calling me out on a forum? This is my first account, sorry to disappoint, internet tough scrub. And you said "true identity" which forces me to conclude that you're beyond stupid, AHHAHAA true identity? what the ****? If we going to talk about true identity, yours is at best a 14 years old fat boy sitting at his comp typing without thinking. And please, don't reply to this Tyvolus1, you're too easy. |
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heartless
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Joined: 1/05/04
Imagination will often carry us to worlds that never were. But without it we go nowhere. -Carl Sagan |
Originally posted by Tyvolus1
Neither do I. Dont be so quick to prove how ignorant you are. On 11.30 I will /QUIT if I still crash. GAME OVER. QUIT. The game has issues, but the bot stories are grossly over-exaggerated beyong belief. The system crashes are very real and a big problems for me. on 11/30 I am gone if it isnt fixed. I hope I dont have to, as I find the game quite enjoyable. But the fact remains, I wont play any game if I find a game breaking problem. And AION has one that must be fixed for me to stay.
Look, I'm done with this conversation. It's beyond pointless now. I posted pics of the bots and you continue to downplay the problem. That's fine, we all have opinions and not all of them agree. You don't consider bots to be a problem, I do. For you, crashing is a game breaking issue, for me it's the bots and the gold spam private shops.
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dont have pics as i left the legion when i found out but ride the shepouf legion has several botters and even went so far as to joke on vent on how they werent getting caught a good portion of the legion was/is using bots in order to lvl and make gold whether they have plans to sell on a website no idea but i do know that quite a few used bots and openly spoke about it in ventrilo |
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Originally posted by joker007mo
not sure if you remember, but a few weeks back -- ncsoft had a massive ban -- many, many players (most of whom I assume and believe were guilty) claimed they werent botting/cheating/buying gold. Its not as if ncsoft isnt addressing the issue. |
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Originally posted by Tyvolus1
not sure if you remember, but a few weeks back -- ncsoft had a massive ban -- many, many players (most of whom I assume and believe were guilty) claimed they werent botting/cheating/buying gold. Its not as if ncsoft isnt addressing the issue.
First you say it isn't an issue...now it is. I'm amazed at the flippy-floppyness of a lot of the fans of games on this forum. It borders on hilarious. |
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heartless
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Joined: 1/05/04
Imagination will often carry us to worlds that never were. But without it we go nowhere. -Carl Sagan |
Originally posted by Tyvolus1
not sure if you remember, but a few weeks back -- ncsoft had a massive ban -- many, many players (most of whom I assume and believe were guilty) claimed they werent botting/cheating/buying gold. Its not as if ncsoft isnt addressing the issue.
You wanted bot legions? Here:
Here's so more bots, those not "officially" in a legion but obviously working together:
And here is our friend from my previous post.
All of these pics were taken right outside of Settler's Camp in Brusthonin. So you know what, Tyvolus1? I'm calling you out. Make an Asmo character on Israphel, run him to lvl 20 and show me that there are no bots. I freaking dare you. PM me on this forum if you need gold or items to get you started. Yes, I'm that eager to prove you wrong. Since, you know, you called me a liar and a drama queen. In other words: put up or shut up.
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[quote][i]Originally posted by junzo316[/i] dont have pics as i left the legion when i found out but ride the shepouf legion has several botters and even went so far as to joke on vent on how they werent getting caught a good portion of the legion was/is using bots in order to lvl and make gold whether they have plans to sell on a website no idea but i do know that quite a few used bots and openly spoke about it in ventrilo
Let me ask you two questions: Thank you.
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Originally posted by Tyvolus1
How much do they pay you to post positive comments about this garbage game? |
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Originally posted by Tyvolus1
First you say it isn't an issue...now it is. I'm amazed at the flippy-floppyness of a lot of the fans of games on this forum. It borders on hilarious. I am almost in disbelief at how stupid you are. Let me ask you two questions: 1) When did I state the bans happened ? 2) When did I make posts saying botting is not an issue (to make this real easy on you, was it before the bannings took place or after) ? Thank you.
Way to resort to name calling. No wonder people complain about the community. Earlier you said that bots were not an issue, then (as I highlighted in red), you say it is. That was my point. I have no idea why you brought up bans.... |
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they may have did bans but the legion and all its members is still there as far as im aware ive seen them all over the abyss and theobomos atmbut it is possible they got caught but i seriously doubt ithe is using the bans as a reason to not have to put up or shut up he knows what he is saying is utter bullsh*t and so therefore cant do anything else but try to mask the fact he doesnt know what he is talking about apprently like was stated before put up or shut up |
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Originally posted by heartless
You wanted bot legions? Here:
Here's so more bots, those not "officially" in a legion but obviously working together:
And here is our friend from my previous post.
All of these pics were taken right outside of Settler's Camp in Brusthonin. So you know what, Tyvolus1? I'm calling you out. Make an Asmo character on Israphel, run him to lvl 20 and show me that there are no bots. I freaking dare you. PM me on this forum if you need to gold or items to get you started. Yes, I'm that eager to prove you wrong. Let me say this all AGAIN. I, as an Elyos, level 24 have not encountered a bot legion. The PCs in those pictures may all be banned by now. ALSO, I Will say (yet again) I realize there are bots in AION -- there are bots in wow, etc etc etc -- As I also said, it is being blown way out of proportion. As I said, I have NEVER had a problem, finishing a quest and/or getting KSd from any bots. As I said., the vast majortiy of PCs I run into are legit GUILDED players. Your pictures prove nothing then what has been admitted by me and others before -- yes AION has bots, as does every other freaking MMO. You dont think wow has bots ? Again, the problem is not as big as you make it to be. Also, dont call me out to spend time levelling an ALT, I play the game every day, and I have long maintained, where my character is and will prove to anyone that there is not a bot problem where I am at. Someone specifically claimed where I was you couldnt even quest there were so many bots. Funny I spent that day questing with ZERO problems. I have been playing since release and am barely 24 and you think Im going to roll an Asmo just to see that you are some raging drama queen ? no thanks. Come to Lumiel, anyone who doesnt beleive me, and I will show you the bot problem isnt the issue you and others claim it to be. |
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Originally posted by Malifiss
How much do they pay you to post positive comments about this garbage game?
nice second post. Too scared to post on your main account, eh ? I smell chicken... |
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Originally posted by junzo316 I am almost in disbelief at how stupid you are. Let me ask you two questions: 1) When did I state the bans happened ? 2) When did I make posts saying botting is not an issue (to make this real easy on you, was it before the bannings took place or after) ? Thank you.
Way to resort to name calling. No wonder people complain about the community. Earlier you said that bots were not an issue, then (as I highlighted in red), you say it is. That was my point. I have no idea why you brought up bans.... you can try and run this around in circles all you want. I proved my point and made you look like a fool in the process. |
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Originally posted by Tyvolus1
nice second post. Too scared to post on your main account, eh ? I smell chicken...
And how many accounts you got on this site again? Oh, I forgot, 39-year old fanboy nerdrage cannot be contained to one mere account. Carry on. |
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heartless
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Joined: 1/05/04
Imagination will often carry us to worlds that never were. But without it we go nowhere. -Carl Sagan |
Originally posted by Tyvolus1
You wanted bot legions? Here:
Here's so more bots, those not "officially" in a legion but obviously working together:
And here is our friend from my previous post.
All of these pics were taken right outside of Settler's Camp in Brusthonin. So you know what, Tyvolus1? I'm calling you out. Make an Asmo character on Israphel, run him to lvl 20 and show me that there are no bots. I freaking dare you. PM me on this forum if you need to gold or items to get you started. Yes, I'm that eager to prove you wrong. Let me say this all AGAIN. I, as an Elyos, level 24 have not encountered a bot legion. The PCs in those pictures may all be banned by now. ALSO, I Will say (yet again) I realize there are bots in AION -- there are bots in wow, etc etc etc -- As I also said, it is being blown way out of proportion. As I said, I have NEVER had a problem, finishing a quest and/or getting KSd from any bots. As I said., the vast majortiy of PCs I run into are legit GUILDED players. Your pictures prove nothing then what has been admitted by me and others before -- yes AION has bots, as does every other freaking MMO. You dont think wow has bots ? Again, the problem is not as big as you make it to be. Also, dont call me out to spend time levelling an ALT, I play the game every day, and I have long maintained, where my character is and will prove to anyone that there is not a bot problem where I am at. Someone specifically claimed where I was you couldnt even quest there were so many bots. Funny I spent that day questing with ZERO problems. I have been playing since release and am barely 24 and you think Im going to roll an Asmo just to see that you are some raging drama queen ? no thanks. Come to Lumiel, anyone who doesnt beleive me, and I will show you the bot problem isnt the issue you and others claim it to be. My dude, I'm still in the same zone where I took the original screen shots. Here are some more:
Anyway, I'm tired of having this conversation with you. You obviously have no idea what you're talking about, yet you feel the need to post of this forum and purposefully mislead people by playing down the bot problem. During the course of this conversation, which spanned two days, I have posted numerous screen shots of bots and bot legions. You, on the other hand, can only say "I haven't seen any, come to my server and I'll show you." GG
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heartless
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Joined: 1/05/04
Imagination will often carry us to worlds that never were. But without it we go nowhere. -Carl Sagan |
BTW, I'm trying to do a quest which requires me to kill the undead at Havenjark Farm. Guess what? I can't because the Li Ning legion has it on farm status
And so do their friends.
So anyway, the ball is in your court. Let's see some proof besides: I haven't seen any so you are lying. You know what? I'll power level you to 20. Put your money where your mouth is. Should be easy since I'm lying, right? Oh and as far as those PC being banned. i just took these pics right now. Like literally right now, right before I made my posts.
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Aion is dead -Computer specs no one cares about: check. -MMOs played no one cares about: check. -Xfire stats no one cares about: check. -Signature no one cares about: check. ------------------------------------------------------------ |
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Originally posted by heartless You have shown him numerous examples of the bot infestation within AION. Whomever can't see the OBVIOUS Bots in AION needs to have their head examined. Thats why my Sub is CANCELLED with that POS botters paradise of a game.
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Bots haven't been an issue with PvE for me... They are only there at level20-25 then there aren't any, also they kill less mobs then there are in the area and you can also pull large groups of mobs onto them and let them die becuase they are usually a Glad using Aoe. The gold spamming has practically stopped now with the latest patch updates i've seen like 1 spammer a day of playing, then they get banned quick anyway. Once you hit 25 you go to the abyss and there are no bots there. :D! Takes more then just a few crap bots to ruin this game imho. |
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