Originally posted by Broomy

Originally posted by psymon15

This game is so terrible...there is nothing about it unique, nothing done rather well, and is more irritating than fun.

Is it just me or does it seem like the creators of this game just took fallout 3, changed the name, made it crappy and decided to try and bank off of it.

 ......This game is just full of so much fail...I DON'T RECCOMEND ANYONE PLAY THIS GAME...for $50...if i would have know how this game actually was....I would have spent the money on something more useful...like a tank of gas and a lighter to burn this company down with.

 

After playing WOW for 2 years and interspersing that experience with other games like WAR, AOC, EQ2 and even trying out AION, I finally decided to check out FE with the trial key earlier this week. I had played beta and thought the game abysmal, but was looking to give it another chance. Why? I have longed for a SciFi MMO for many years (or something close to scifi, whatever, just no damn elves!) and was desperate for something fresh. I am so glad I did.  I will provide my own review of the game at a later date.
 

To the OP (because we all know your going to come back and read these posts ;) ) your points arent very well thought out.  I wont go over them point by point, as others already have, but seriously based on the above content I have quoted here, you simply sound fustrated.  No game developer makes "Bank off" a game like Fallen Earth.  FE is too unconventional and won't appeal to the masses.  If they wanted to try and make "bank" they would have produced another WOW clone.  I beleive FE is taking the route that CCP has, niche market, with a smaller, and very dedicated, fanbase.  As MMO tastes change and people look for other types of games, hopefully FE will attract that crowd, if it doesnt I beleive it will still continue to do well.  But FE simply does not have the glitz and eye candy (think AION) that would lead us to feel the devs are simply trying to only make a buck by rehashing old content.

 

You express fustration with the money you spent.  There is no reason to try a game out nowadays by paying for it, when there are so many free trials going on.  Patcience sir.  If money is an issue for you, just wait for the free trial or key.  It will come eventually, this is part of the genre's marketing plan. 

 

On a point, you discuss "storyline".  Point taken, however games like FE (and think EVE Online as well) are far more open, even sandbox (Ugh I hate that word! but whatever) in their nature.  SUre there are underlying currents of stories, but the game is really yours to make of what you will.  Right now my character (who I have decided to align with Vistas as I am a treehugger in rl) is exploring, hunting, questing and trying out different crafting.  I like the fact that most actions provide one with experience credit, this prevents us from being "stuck" in one type of gameplay.   Many gamers prefer a more linear style, this is fine, perhaps linear reflects your preferred playstyle.  If this is the case, a game like EVE or FE will never make you happy. 

 

Anyway thats all I have to say regarding the OPs post.  There is no need to insult the op but I think his post mayhave been taken a bit more seriously without that title.  The OP needs to understand he will get a negative response when he makes posts that implicitly tell others NOT to play a game.  Viral negative marketing abounds and those of us with any experience in gaming forums know only too well that competing game developers normally set up accounts to trash each other.  The familiar trends in these types of posts are usually a direct attack at a game, that isnt supported by facts (they like to confuse opinions with facts) and they ALWAYS caution persons to not play the game and not to waste their MONEY.  The OPs post had every single element of a negative marketing attempt by a rival developer. 

Cheers!

Please never compare EVE to FE again. They are completely different in every way. It is mildly embarrassing that you would mention them both in the same sentence and makes it painfully obvious you have not played both of these games. 

I'm not sure if you've even played either. Have you? Because to say these games are similar is WAY off base.

Originally posted by colddog

 

Please never compare EVE to FE again. They are completely different in every way. It is mildly embarrassing that you would mention them both in the same sentence and makes it painfully obvious you have not played both of these games. 

 

I'm not sure if you've even played either. Have you? Because to say these games are similar is WAY off base.

I think I sufficiently put forth what I felt the two games shared in common.  And qualified that.  I have a 25 million sp pilot in EVE, I am currently playing FE, come again?  Whats painfully obvious is your inability to read and understand WHAT I was pointing out that was similar in both games. I do not beleive my comparisons of their "sandbox" or more open, non-linear elements, is "Way off base".  They are both skillbased, appeal to niche markets and are not conventional.  I would say that is actually alot of similarities. 

Please read.  BTW, I cant beleive you quoted my entire post, and pulled out one sentence to debate.  You may want to try editing the quotes to be a bit more specific.  ;) 

Everyone compares this game to SWG, but it's not ok to compare it to EVE?  It's the best sandbox of them all, and I too was disappointed with FE's linear gameplay.  I'm not saying that FE should try to be like EVE, just that I was under the impression it shared a lot of the same mechanics.  I was wrong, and moved on.  It's a good game, just not what I was looking for.  But yeah, I'd say it's perfectly acceptable to use eve and fe in the same sentence, or at least just as acceptable as swg.

The skill base of Eve and the skill base of FE are completely different.  EVE is unlimited skilling FE is limited more like AC1.  The way you skill is completely different.  The setup of the skills is completely different. 

Originally posted by Horusra

The skill base of Eve and the skill base of FE are completely different.  EVE is unlimited skilling FE is limited more like AC1.  The way you skill is completely different.  The setup of the skills is completely different. 

LOL, the fact is they are BOTH skill based.  No one is saying their skill systems are the same. 
 

Originally posted by FolbyOrb

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Originally posted by Broomy

Originally posted by colddog

 

Please never compare EVE to FE again. They are completely different in every way. It is mildly embarrassing that you would mention them both in the same sentence and makes it painfully obvious you have not played both of these games. 

 

I'm not sure if you've even played either. Have you? Because to say these games are similar is WAY off base.

 

I think I sufficiently put forth what I felt the two games shared in common.  And qualified that.  I have a 25 million sp pilot in EVE, I am currently playing FE, come again?  Whats painfully obvious is your inability to read and understand WHAT I was pointing out that was similar in both games. I do not beleive my comparisons of their "sandbox" or more open, non-linear elements, is "Way off base".  They are both skillbased, appeal to niche markets and are not conventional.  I would say that is actually alot of similarities. 

Please read.  BTW, I cant beleive you quoted my entire post, and pulled out one sentence to debate.  You may want to try editing the quotes to be a bit more specific.  ;) 

Really, the issue with comparing these two games is how linear FE is compared to EVE. They are skill based in a completely different way. FE's skill based system is simple, guided and forces caps based on level attained.

Fallen Earth is a series of quest hubs. Eve can be anything you want it to be. There is nothing similar except that there is some vague resemblance in that there is a skill system. FE forces you into very few builds if you are smarter than a fifth grader and EVE really does have an open ended system where you can focus on hundereds of different things.

There is nothing sandbox about FE at all in any way except for a skill system that is based on level gained. And it forces people into only very few builds (unless they purposefully choose to "RP" a less effective build).

Originally posted by miagisan 

sorry but i have tried every tweak i could find, and no its not my ram cause why would FE be the only game, and i have played a ton, including aion, aoc, eq2, EVE, etc wh

Mine:

AMD 64 X2 5200+ (2.6ghz)

2 GB on XP

Nvidia GTX 280

1 GB Video Ram

Cable Connection, NY (optonline)

2x500gb 10,000 rpm WD HDs

I find that FE is pushing my computer more than any of the games you mention (eq2 is the messed up family member with alot of special needs). Im atm using 2x4850 (1 gb) with a i7@4 ghz and Ive some nasty drops in my fps in zones that are highly populated.  And I would say that your system should easily be able to handle FE (mostly becuse of your gfx card) but I do believe that the rest of your system is bottle necking it. A x2 AMD 64 is nothing that I would use to try to play a modern game for example so i would suggest that you looked up the phenom II x3 processor and see if it fits your motherboard.

Originally posted by astrob0y

Originally posted by miagisan 

sorry but i have tried every tweak i could find, and no its not my ram cause why would FE be the only game, and i have played a ton, including aion, aoc, eq2, EVE, etc wh

Mine:

AMD 64 X2 5200+ (2.6ghz)

2 GB on XP

Nvidia GTX 280

1 GB Video Ram

Cable Connection, NY (optonline)

2x500gb 10,000 rpm WD HDs

I find that FE is pushing my computer more than any of the games you mention (eq2 is the messed up family member with alot of special needs). Im atm using 2x4850 (1 gb) with a i7@4 ghz and Ive some nasty drops in my fps in zones that are highly populated.  And I would say that your system should easily be able to handle FE (mostly becuse of your gfx card) but I do believe that the rest of your system is bottle necking it. A x2 AMD 64 is nothing that I would use to try to play a modern game for example so i would suggest that you looked up the phenom II x3 processor and see if it fits your motherboard.

so you think a game like FE should be pushing your computer and its not that intensive of a game is normal?

and so because my comp can handle almost any game out there still, with no issues, suddenly fe comes along and its because of my system....

riight.

then why post bogus recommended requirements? My cpu handles EQ2 on very high (cant do extreme) and looks 10x better than FE.

Originally posted by colddog

Your getting into minutia.  My comparisons of the games were very general, I am not debating that there are differences within those similarities.   

Really, the issue with comparing these two games is how linear FE is compared to EVE. They are skill based in a completely different way. FE's skill based system is simple, guided and forces caps based on level attained.

 More minutia.  I said they were BOTH skillbased, that's all. 

Fallen Earth is a series of quest hubs. Eve can be anything you want it to be. There is nothing similar except that there is some vague resemblance in that there is a skill system. FE forces you into very few builds if you are smarter than a fifth grader and EVE really does have an open ended system where you can focus on hundereds of different things.

 See the above response regarding the skill system similarity. 

There is nothing sandbox about FE at all in any way except for a skill system that is based on level gained. And it forces people into only very few builds (unless they purposefully choose to "RP" a less effective build).

I disagree, I think FE is "somewhat open and non-linear" in comparison to other games.  Is it exactly like EVE, totally open? No.  And no one said it was.  As for EVE, sure you can go whereever you want to go in EVE, but without the proper skills, training or  friends, you wont last long.  I stayed in .5 and higher systems until I had enough skills to withstand (or at least attempt to) being ganked or gate camped.  Sure I could go into 0.0 and the first time I did I was podkilled and my ship destroyed.  So I guess its a matter of opinion if you think you can "do whatever you want" in EVE.  Getting continuously wreaked and podkilled ;)  All games have some restictions and limits, just because you CAN go somewhere doesnt mean that's the best thing at the time to do. 

But again, this is more minutia.  Your getting into details regarding the comparisons and I was speaking in general terms.  Telling me not to say these two games in the same sentence is probably the dumbest thing I have heard on this thread, if even beats the OPs remarks.  Both are skillbased, both appeal to a niche playerbase and both are open-ended and non-linear to an extent where they can be generally compared.  The fact that EVE is totally openended and has an unlimited skill based system was a fact that I took for granted people understood.   I hate to say this but as the adage goes, troll more.  Cheers.

Originally posted by Broomy

Originally posted by colddog

Your getting into minutia.  My comparisons of the games were very general, I am not debating that there are differences within those similarities.   

Really, the issue with comparing these two games is how linear FE is compared to EVE. They are skill based in a completely different way. FE's skill based system is simple, guided and forces caps based on level attained.

 More minutia.  I said they were BOTH skillbased, that's all. 

Fallen Earth is a series of quest hubs. Eve can be anything you want it to be. There is nothing similar except that there is some vague resemblance in that there is a skill system. FE forces you into very few builds if you are smarter than a fifth grader and EVE really does have an open ended system where you can focus on hundereds of different things.

 See the above response regarding the skill system similarity. 

There is nothing sandbox about FE at all in any way except for a skill system that is based on level gained. And it forces people into only very few builds (unless they purposefully choose to "RP" a less effective build).

I disagree, I think FE is "somewhat open and non-linear" in comparison to other games.  Is it exactly like EVE, totally open? No.  And no one said it was.  As for EVE, sure you can go whereever you want to go in EVE, but without the proper skills, training or  friends, you wont last long.  I stayed in .5 and higher systems until I had enough skills to withstand (or at least attempt to) being ganked or gate camped.  Sure I could go into 0.0 and the first time I did I was podkilled and my ship destroyed.  So I guess its a matter of opinion if you think you can "do whatever you want" in EVE.  Getting continuously wreaked and podkilled ;)  All games have some restictions and limits, just because you CAN go somewhere doesnt mean that's the best thing at the time to do. 

But again, this is more minutia.  Your getting into details regarding the comparisons and I was speaking in general terms.  Telling me not to say these two games in the same sentence is probably the dumbest thing I have heard on this thread, if even beats the OPs remarks.  Both are skillbased, both appeal to a niche playerbase and both are open-ended and non-linear to an extent where they can be generally compared.  The fact that EVE is totally openended and has an unlimited skill based system was a fact that I took for granted people understood.   I hate to say this but as the adage goes, troll more.  Cheers.

 

Well, in general terms, I believe they are completely different in almost every way. Minutia excluded. 

Please don't say you will get ganked in EVE if you go into 0.0 space. All you need to do is join a corp and you can survive just as well as a seasoned player anywhere, anytime.

Telling me not to say these two games in the same sentence is probably the dumbest thing I have heard on this thread, if even beats the OPs remarks. Both are skillbased, both appeal to a niche playerbase and both are open-ended and non-linear to an extent where they can be generally compared. The fact that EVE is totally openended and has an unlimited skill based system was a fact that I took for granted people understood. I hate to say this but as the adage goes, troll more. Cheers.

FE is completely linear. It has multiple questhubs. There is nothing to do outside of those quest hubs. PvP is less than exciting. Crafting is about harvesting/buying mats and waiting. Sector 1, sector 2, sector 3. 

I'm not trolling. Your perspective on FE seems extremely naive to me and when you compare it to EVE, it only reinforces that view. These games are completely different, the skill systems are completely different, the amount of access to the game worlds are completely different, and there is not one single thing that is similar in any way.

both appeal to a niche playerbase

Appealing to a niche playerbase does not count in my book since every game that is not mainstream can be said to appeal to a nich playerbase. The truth is, calling this game similar to EVE is ignoring minutia as big as a whale. These games are completely different and FE does not offer a "somewhat open and non-linear" experience at all. It is extremely linear with an open world that you can travel from quest hub to quest hub in.

Originally posted by colddog

Originally posted by Broomy

Originally posted by colddog

 

Please never compare EVE to FE again. They are completely different in every way. It is mildly embarrassing that you would mention them both in the same sentence and makes it painfully obvious you have not played both of these games. 

 

I'm not sure if you've even played either. Have you? Because to say these games are similar is WAY off base.

 

I think I sufficiently put forth what I felt the two games shared in common.  And qualified that.  I have a 25 million sp pilot in EVE, I am currently playing FE, come again?  Whats painfully obvious is your inability to read and understand WHAT I was pointing out that was similar in both games. I do not beleive my comparisons of their "sandbox" or more open, non-linear elements, is "Way off base".  They are both skillbased, appeal to niche markets and are not conventional.  I would say that is actually alot of similarities. 

Please read.  BTW, I cant beleive you quoted my entire post, and pulled out one sentence to debate.  You may want to try editing the quotes to be a bit more specific.  ;) 

 

Really, the issue with comparing these two games is how linear FE is compared to EVE. They are skill based in a completely different way. FE's skill based system is simple, guided and forces caps based on level attained.

What makes FE's skill system more simple than EVE's? In EVE if I want to be able to use a certain item or ship, I might have to train up a skill or a few skills to meet the requirements. FE is the same way. If you want to wear decent armor or use a better weapon, or a various other skills or items, you are always dealing with 3 attributes (2 Stats and the skill) that you as the player can determine, yes with limits (EVE has limits too,..i.e. gunnery, engineering, social, etc skills do eventually max out (see carrot-on-stick comment below).

Fallen Earth is a series of quest hubs. Eve can be anything you want it to be. There is nothing similar except that there is some vague resemblance in that there is a skill system. FE forces you into very few builds if you are smarter than a fifth grader and EVE really does have an open ended system where you can focus on hundereds of different things.

EVE has mission hubs too, that are just completely random generated missions. EVE has it's builds too. The term tackler and sniper mean anything to you? Also builds apply to ship load outs as well. This is what the difference between EVE and FE is. EVE is rock, paper scissors combat, FE is not.

There is nothing sandbox about FE at all in any way except for a skill system that is based on level gained. And it forces people into only very few builds (unless they purposefully choose to "RP" a less effective build).

Who told you  that you are forced into only a few builds? No one is forcing me into my build and I'm doing just fine. I don't RP either.

The BIG difference between skills in EVE and FE is that EVE's skill system is a carrot-on-a-stick mechanic to keep you subscribed. 

Originally posted by rodingo

The BIG difference between skills in EVE and FE is that EVE's skill system is a carrot-on-a-stick mechanic to keep you subscribed. 

Um... so you think a level based system is not a carrot on a stick mechanic?

At least this guy didn't compare it to WoW like the other guy in the other thread did.

Originally posted by miagisan

Originally posted by astrob0y

Originally posted by miagisan 

sorry but i have tried every tweak i could find, and no its not my ram cause why would FE be the only game, and i have played a ton, including aion, aoc, eq2, EVE, etc wh

Mine:

AMD 64 X2 5200+ (2.6ghz)

2 GB on XP

Nvidia GTX 280

1 GB Video Ram

Cable Connection, NY (optonline)

2x500gb 10,000 rpm WD HDs

I find that FE is pushing my computer more than any of the games you mention (eq2 is the messed up family member with alot of special needs). Im atm using 2x4850 (1 gb) with a i7@4 ghz and Ive some nasty drops in my fps in zones that are highly populated.  And I would say that your system should easily be able to handle FE (mostly becuse of your gfx card) but I do believe that the rest of your system is bottle necking it. A x2 AMD 64 is nothing that I would use to try to play a modern game for example so i would suggest that you looked up the phenom II x3 processor and see if it fits your motherboard.

so you think a game like FE should be pushing your computer and its not that intensive of a game is normal?

and so because my comp can handle almost any game out there still, with no issues, suddenly fe comes along and its because of my system....

 

riight.

 

then why post bogus recommended requirements? My cpu handles EQ2 on very high (cant do extreme) and looks 10x better than FE.

Well if you handle a try to help with that answer then I must say that your last line is bogus and not riiight at all. You are comparing a highly instanced game (that is old as the cpu you are using) with a game with another structure (that is newer than the rig you are using).... riiight. Way to go.

Try not to compair every pc game as a console game. You are playing on a personal computer (pc) and you will get diffrent out put from most games. That is becuse pc game all works diffrent and my recommendation is that you should look for another cpu.

Have a nice day

so i am lying now huh?

sorry but not everyone in FE is running up to date computers, in fact i would venture to say my comp could outperform the majority of fe's playerbase, you think everyone in fe is running < 1 yr old comp, that is going to make you look very foolish

the issue is not my comp. its either a) the coding or b) their system requirements are flat out wrong, if you like the game that is fine by me. i havent made 1 citicism about the gameplay, my problem is the lag.

Originally posted by miagisan

so i am lying now huh?

sorry but not everyone in FE is running up to date computers, in fact i would venture to say my comp could outperform the majority of fe's playerbase, you think everyone in fe is running < 1 yr old comp, that is going to make you look very foolish

 

the issue is not my comp. its either a) the coding or b) their system requirements are flat out wrong, if you like the game that is fine by me. i havent made 1 citicism about the gameplay, my problem is the lag.

Okay...but if your system is better than most of ours...and we're playing the game just fine...then how exactly is it the game's issue? If our machines can't perform as well as yours then we shouldn't be able to play the game either. And I played for 7 straight hours last evening.

I can't remember if you said it, but did you try the "tweaks" that have been on the FE forums and I think posted here? If you are genuinely wanting to give the game a go I'd suggest trying those. They aren't difficult to do unless you don't know your way at all around a PC. That and ensuring you have the latest drivers for your vid card (not the out of the box CD ones) and that you aren't running any other programs.

i already tried the tweaks located in the mmorpg fe forum and some "tricks" in the fe forum. I wanted to give it a try, but no worries.

It is as if you joined mmorpg yesterday just to complain about FE.  Hmmm.....

Originally posted by scribe331

It is as if you joined mmorpg yesterday just to complain about FE.  Hmmm.....

so by this logic we can dismiss fan posts as well if they are under 2 weeks old as well.

Originally posted by miagisan

Originally posted by scribe331

It is as if you joined mmorpg yesterday just to complain about FE.  Hmmm.....

so by this logic we can dismiss fan posts as well if they are under 2 weeks old as well.

First of all its obvious from the OP that he did not even bother to level his character past the first few levels.  Secondly I don't think that people should hate on anything they don't understand or have not given a chance. 

To answer your question - yes

Originally posted by miagisan

so i am lying now huh?

sorry but not everyone in FE is running up to date computers, in fact i would venture to say my comp could outperform the majority of fe's playerbase, you think everyone in fe is running < 1 yr old comp, that is going to make you look very foolish

 

the issue is not my comp. its either a) the coding or b) their system requirements are flat out wrong, if you like the game that is fine by me. i havent made 1 citicism about the gameplay, my problem is the lag.

I have this issue too yet my computer can run all games out there, apart from FE smoothly, sometimes it even freezes due to it building the characters around me, so obviously it is something to do with poor optimisation, which is kinda shown if the FE fans say to use "tweaks" lol

Aparrt from the lag, I just got bored with the game, running around the town doing crafting and more crafting and even more crafting, waiting over an hour to finish certain quests. Good luck if you like that type of thing.

Originally posted by miagisan

Originally posted by scribe331

It is as if you joined mmorpg yesterday just to complain about FE.  Hmmm.....

so by this logic we can dismiss fan posts as well if they are under 2 weeks old as well.

You guys already do...even posts from guys that have been here a lot longer, lol.

There's a difference, whether you want to acknowledge this or not, between stating an opinion and trying to pull that opinion off as fact in an immature way. The OP nailed the latter to a "T". Many of us, though certain folks memories seem really short, have said time and again that we know FE isn't perfect and neither are we trying to state it is. Constructive criticism is more than welcome and has happened a few times in this forum. Posts like the OP's, though are just immature trolling. Plain and simple. Which is going to work people up to the defensive.

I got no issue talking/debating someone who wants to sit down and discuss the games ups and downs. But when someone puts on the dramatic using largely inflammatory words and trying to push opinions as facts, well, they reap what they sow. *shrug*

*disclaimer: Khal is not saying that miagisan is guilty of actions expressed above.

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Originally posted by sbanting

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Originally posted by miagisan
so i am lying now huh?
sorry but not everyone in FE is running up to date computers, in fact i would venture to say my comp could outperform the majority of fe's playerbase, you think everyone in fe is running < 1 yr old comp, that is going to make you look very foolish
 
the issue is not my comp. its either a) the coding or b) their system requirements are flat out wrong, if you like the game that is fine by me. i havent made 1 citicism about the gameplay, my problem is the lag.

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I have this issue too yet my computer can run all games out there, apart from FE smoothly, sometimes it even freezes due to it building the characters around me, so obviously it is something to do with poor optimisation, which is kinda shown if the FE fans say to use "tweaks" lol

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I have a similar issue as well. FE is the first MMO I've tried that locks up my laptop. It'll run for about an hour and lock everything up. Try again and it locks up even faster. I'm 99% sure it's my GPU overheating despite the graphics set to lowest settings and trying the tweaks on the FE forums.

I like the game, but I can't play it until the game gets better optimization or I get a dedicated gaming rig.

Originally posted by psymon15

Ok, this is going to be last post just because it's really getting rather boring.

This is concerning all you people who almost completely disregard what i have to say based on my post count. All of you are ignorant morons, do you not understand that sometimes people are just new to using the forums?

Certainly we understand that; however, the disproportionate number of first-time posters on this single forum who post only to deride FE is statistically odd. So it is very easy to see a pattern there that has nothing whatsoever to do with honest criticism.

I've used this site many times and found the forums at least somewhat useful when i made my selections for a new game, I just have never made an accnt and posted what i felt about games on them.  Honestly though, I have probably played more MMO's for longer, than almost anyone that has posted here.

You are 19 years old.  I was playing NeverWinter Nights on AOL when you were a one year old, when you were still pissing your diapers.

It's assumptions just like these that invalidate your arguments.

As far as the tone of how i wrote my review of this game, it was easiest for me to do things like "FAIL" and "LAME" because i figured some annoying people would just come up and flame it regardless of what i put because i'm bashing their beloved game.

Instead, your assumption made you look like a troll. I haven't seen anyone in this particular forum deride a well-thought out and informed critique. They may disagree, but normally there is no hostility over the critique.

Your post, beginning with the title, was geared to incite hostility. So apparently, if you could not convince casual visitors to the FE forum that the game was horrible, you would try to get the community to convince them that we are hostile as a whole.

You see, this post wasn't for people have already played this game for some time, it's more for the people who are just starting out.

The exact reason players of FE attacked your topic post. FE has a lot of bugs, we all know that; but when you start your topic with;

"This game is so terrible...there is nothing about it unique, nothing done rather well, and is more irritating than fun."

This will naturally cause the players who disagree to reply to what they perceive as errors in your post and the general troll tone of it.

Honestly, the majority of your topic post had little to no factual information at all.

And while you may disagree with me about somethings, for the beginning of the game, the time where newer players of the MMO are going to get attached or completely hate, those things are true. Whether or not you want to believe your game does or doesn't have these things that i said as flaws is a useless point, you OPINION has nothing to do with simple facts that I have found to be true with what I have played so far.

 Opinion:  "2.) FPS- First person shooter....don't get me wrong, I'm a fan of FPS's...but only when they are done right...half the time when you shoot somebody in this game, regardless of if you shoot them in the body or the head, it tells you that it just glanced off of it....yeah...that makes sense...*fires crossbow from 5 feet away into someones chest* good thing that glanced off.....FAIL"

Opinion:  "3.) Story- at the beginning I thought it was rather interesting, but once you got out of the tutorial part, anything that could have been considered a story line just died."

Not sure where you even get this from; the "You're Dying" storyline begins in the tutorial and continues on through at least level ten or twelve (perhaps further, if you ignore it for other missions), depending on whether you group to complete or solo.

Opinion:  "4.) PVP- Just plain annoying! level 1 can get killed by level 40? really? thats stupid...NEXT"

There are established PvP areas and they are marked; if you wander into one, you are fair game. Simple.

Opinion:  "6.) Crafting- Why does this game do nothing but shove crafting on you it seems like? Want a better weapon? Craft it. Want better armor? Craft it."

It's already been pointed out that you don't have to craft at all if you don't want to.

Fact:  "Some people don't like crafting....in fact some people consider it annoying and extremely boring."

True; although why that would be a factor in FE is beyond me, since all you do is collect the items, que the item you want to craft and then go on your merry way; you don't have to sit there at a forge, etc., and wait for the item to be crafted. Go do a mission, collect salvage, whatever.... the item will be crafting away all on its own. Check on it later, when it's done, put it in your pack.

You don't even have to go anywhere to get the item once it is complete.

Fact:  "7.) Lag- "

Opinion: "...FAIL"

There is lag. In every MMO, there is lag. Sometimes it is better, sometimes it is worse. Playing from the headstart, it is has never been so bad for me that it has kept me from accomplishing goals or playing the game.

Like i said, people are either going to love or hate this game depending on their first few levels of this game, and from what i've experienced, most people are going to hate it, and if they hate it at the beginning, they aren't going to stay to play the rest of your "kickass" endgame crap

Opinion: "...most people are going to hate it..."

So, going by your initial topic post, your score is:

Facts: 2

Your opinions: 6

And I didn't even go through every single point in your topic post.

It is quite clear that very little of the content of your topic post was factual at all. The majority of it was your opinion.

You are welcome to your opinion; but don't try to present it as fact.

Final comment:

To all you fanboy wanna be mmoers, pick a good game and......

 

 

 

Suck it trebek <==3

 

Le fin

 And you finish in typical troll style, thus remaining true to the tone of your topic post.