Well hot damn! I ran the game in windowed mode earlier and was able to play for half an hour without any crashing. I didn't have much time tonight, otherwise I would've played longer. Tomorrow evening I'll see if I can play for more than an hour.

Thanks for the suggestion!

Originally posted by Nizur

Well hot damn! I ran the game in windowed mode earlier and was able to play for half an hour without any crashing. I didn't have much time tonight, otherwise I would've played longer. Tomorrow evening I'll see if I can play for more than an hour.

Thanks for the suggestion!

Glad to hear it! Hope to see you in game sometime.

The issue is back. :( And the way it's acting leads me to believe it really is my GPU overheating. At first I can play for around an hour or so before the game locks up. I restart the computer, log back in and this time it crashes after 15 minutes. And the fans are going full tilt when it locks up.

I'm not sure why it's overheating. I'm not overclocking anything. I've got all the settings to as low as they can be and have disabled post FX/shadows/etc. I'm running it in windowed mode. I don't know what else to do, so for now I'm going to shelf the game and hope some future update helps with the problem.

I really like the game. I was in the middle of crafting my horse when it locked up this last time. I'll try to get in a few more sessions before my trial runs out.

Sounds like overheating to me too.

Safe thing to do is get a can of air (compressed air from walmart or a computer shop) and blow out the inside. Dust getting on the cards and fans inside can make the temps rise quite a bit. Blow off the cards and all the fans and exhaust ports. Make sure the computer is off and unplugged first:)

Less safe thing to do, is after blowing everything off and getting it clean if that does not fix issue. Take off side door to improve air flow.  If that works, you just confirmed the heat issue, but it is not safe or a good thing to run it that way for long. You need to add fans or re run all the wiring inside to improve air flow to what is getting over heated.

Running the thing till it shuts down your computer will eventually burn out whatever is overheating if you do not fix the overheating issue. Good luck.

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Originally posted by DarLorkar
Sounds like overheating to me too.
 
Safe thing to do is get a can of air (compressed air from walmart or a computer shop) and blow out the inside. Dust getting on the cards and fans inside can make the temps rise quite a bit. Blow off the cards and all the fans and exhaust ports. Make sure the computer is off and unplugged first:)
 
Less safe thing to do, is after blowing everything off and getting it clean if that does not fix issue. Take off side door to improve air flow.  If that works, you just confirmed the heat issue, but it is not safe or a good thing to run it that way for long. You need to add fans or re run all the wiring inside to improve air flow to what is getting over heated.
 
Running the thing till it shuts down your computer will eventually burn out whatever is overheating if you do not fix the overheating issue. Good luck.

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Thing is it's a laptop. An Apple Macbook Pro at that. The thing's as tight as a cat's butt, so I'm not sure how to even crack it open. It's my work laptop that happens to be a gaming laptop on the side. So far it's been able to handle every other game I've thrown at it (LotRO, VG, CO, WAR, EQ2, Ryzom, CoS, EVE), but it's choking on FE for some reason.

I'll eventually get a real gaming rig. The laptop is nice, but a dedicated gaming rig would be so much nicer.

Originally posted by Nizur

 

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Originally posted by DarLorkar
Sounds like overheating to me too.

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Thing is it's a laptop. An Apple Macbook Pro at that. The thing's as tight as a cat's butt, so I'm not sure how to even crack it open. It's my work laptop that happens to be a gaming laptop on the side. So far it's been able to handle every other game I've thrown at it (LotRO, VG, CO, WAR, EQ2, Ryzom, CoS, EVE), but it's choking on FE for some reason.

I'll eventually get a real gaming rig. The laptop is nice, but a dedicated gaming rig would be so much nicer.

I guess its overheating as well. And next time its best to say its a laptop  you have problem with first of all if you want real help .

Ya no idea then, do not mess with laptops, so dis regard what i said, that was meant for a desktop.

Still say it is over heating though.  Just no idea how to help for a lap top.

 If its a laptop, get a laptop cooler, they are super cheap and sometimes they can drop the temp significantly.  Make sure you aren't using the laptop on a bed, or have the vents blocked on it.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834998051

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834999816

take a look at those, one is fairly expensive, the other, fairly cheap.. you can go to any nearby electronics store and get one for pretty cheap too.

I have a buddy who got one for 10 bucks and it worked like a charm for him!

Lemme know if that helps at all.....   cheaper then buying a whole new comp!

Does the OP have anything Overclocked?this can really be a major problem.

I would not turn textures down ,the two things if i remember right were view distance made a big impact and so does shadows,and also the lighting effects,you don't really need those turned up.

As far as memory leaks ,idk i have not played in awhile,so i can't speak for what has happened since the last patch.If there is memory leaks in the program,then everyone will have crashes.Of course those with more memory will have issues later than those with less.Do you perhaps run on only 2 mb?Another problem can be a Hard drive that is near full.

I believe this game has a log file error report no?maybe see if you can look at that or ask Icarus about it.Bah sorry noticed you are running xp witch sees 2 mb.I will add that even though you may have extreme graphic lag at times,hard  to believe ,i never noticed it,but if you did,it would still be very unlikely to cause a crash,so it is a problem on your system or a memory leak,witch at this point i cannot answer because i am not playing anymore.

Ah a laptop, I was going to suggest leaving one of the sides open on your tower to help cool your rig.

Sudden crashes and reboots like what your describing usually are a heating issue.

Originally posted by blakavar

Ah a laptop, I was going to suggest leaving one of the sides open on your tower to help cool your rig.

Sudden crashes and reboots like what your describing usually are a heating issue.

Ich! please don't keep the side of your case open to cool your rig!  It actually does more damage as yo udon't have the wind tunnel anymore to take heat off your components!   I feel like writing with exclamation points today!

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Originally posted by maskedweasel
 If its a laptop, get a laptop cooler, they are super cheap and sometimes they can drop the temp significantly.  Make sure you aren't using the laptop on a bed, or have the vents blocked on it.

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It's not running on a bed. I've got it propped up on a stand to let the air flow around it more. No vents are blocked. I'll still look into the laptop coolers though.

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Originally posted by Wizardry
Does the OP have anything Overclocked?this can really be a major problem.
I would not turn textures down ,the two things if i remember right were view distance made a big impact and so does shadows,and also the lighting effects,you don't really need those turned up.

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Nothing is overclocked. Shadows and lighting effects are turned off. I've got the view distance slider almost all the way left. There's not much more I can do to lower the settings.

BTW, the resolution I'm running the games at is 1920x1200, so that probably isn't helping anything. It's the native resolution of the monitor I'm using. I might try running the game on the laptop's screen itself to see if that helps at all. Smaller resolution and all...

Originally posted by maskedweasel

Originally posted by blakavar

Ah a laptop, I was going to suggest leaving one of the sides open on your tower to help cool your rig.

Sudden crashes and reboots like what your describing usually are a heating issue.

 

Ich! please don't keep the side of your case open to cool your rig!  It actually does more damage as yo udon't have the wind tunnel anymore to take heat off your components!   I feel like writing with exclamation points today!

I keep the side off my Antec 900. Course, I have a blowing directly on to the "guts" of my rig.

All you guys have to undestand who is doing the networking for Fallen Earth then you will understand why it lags and crashes.  Unless you are using pc back from the dinosaur age then it isn't your pc.

Originally posted by SaintViktor

All you guys have to undestand who is doing the networking for Fallen Earth then you will understand why it lags and crashes.  Unless you are using pc back from the dinosaur age then it isn't your pc.

Did you feel your hair move when that thing went "whoosh!", right over your head?

 At work I use a laptop with 4gigs gaming ram in it. If I don't use a cooler pad it shuts down in 30 mins from over heating. With the cooler pad on it stays cool enough to be on and working hard as long as needed. It was like $20 from Newegg.

Originally posted by Nizur

 

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Originally posted by maskedweasel
 If its a laptop, get a laptop cooler, they are super cheap and sometimes they can drop the temp significantly.  Make sure you aren't using the laptop on a bed, or have the vents blocked on it.

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It's not running on a bed. I've got it propped up on a stand to let the air flow around it more. No vents are blocked. I'll still look into the laptop coolers though.

 

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Originally posted by Wizardry
Does the OP have anything Overclocked?this can really be a major problem.
I would not turn textures down ,the two things if i remember right were view distance made a big impact and so does shadows,and also the lighting effects,you don't really need those turned up.

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Nothing is overclocked. Shadows and lighting effects are turned off. I've got the view distance slider almost all the way left. There's not much more I can do to lower the settings.

BTW, the resolution I'm running the games at is 1920x1200, so that probably isn't helping anything. It's the native resolution of the monitor I'm using. I might try running the game on the laptop's screen itself to see if that helps at all. Smaller resolution and all...

Oh geesh,i totally forgot that part,i actually had the same problem.Most monitors actually only like 60 HZ for higher settings,and most of us try to push 72 HZ,so no question that can cause problems if you are running above the specs of your monitor.I was getting sudden screen lock ups then my graphics would slowly fade and blur out completely because of this,i have rolled back my settings to 60 HZ and play at 1024x1024 an no more problems.

Eureka! Instead of playing on the big monitor, I switched to the laptop's 15" screen. That seemed to do the trick! I was able to play for 3 hours without any issues. The fan was barely spinning the entire time, even in town.

One thing I did notice was that my FPS dropped to 25-30 in the wild and in town. That doesn't make sense. Why would my FPS drop to a third of what they were on the big screen even though I'm using a smaller resolution? All settings are still set to low.

Originally posted by Nizur

When the game isn't crashing on me and locking up my computer, it's enjoyable. I like the openness, atmosphere, etc. The character animations are bit robotic, but it's not a game-killer for me.

The constant crashing is though. I've searched through the FE forums and changed settings in my nVidia control panel like they suggested. I've tried editing the boot.ini file, but that makes the computer lock up within a few seconds instead of 15-20 minutes.

I don't know what else to do to make the game more stable. I'm running 32bit XP SP3 with an nVidia 9600 GT 256. I've got 4GB of DDR3 RAM, but XP only sees 2.72 of that.

The game seems to run fine for a while. I'm getting 80 fps out in the wilderness and 25-30 in town. No textures or models disappear before the crash. No stuttering. The fans aren't getting louder. It just stops and locks up the computer. I can't alt-tab or ctl-alt-del. Only a restart works. Memory leak maybe?

I had, still have, the same exact problem.  

I contacted FE Support, worked with them for a bit... and here's what they said, "This problem is what we saw on machines that were below minimum spec... but your machine is far above min's."

And that was all they wrote.  Oh well.  I enjoyed this game the few times I could play it but once the 30  days are up, so is my subscription.  Really.

Originally posted by Nizur

When the game isn't crashing on me and locking up my computer, it's enjoyable. I like the openness, atmosphere, etc. The character animations are bit robotic, but it's not a game-killer for me.

The constant crashing is though. I've searched through the FE forums and changed settings in my nVidia control panel like they suggested. I've tried editing the boot.ini file, but that makes the computer lock up within a few seconds instead of 15-20 minutes.

I don't know what else to do to make the game more stable. I'm running 32bit XP SP3 with an nVidia 9600 GT 256. I've got 4GB of DDR3 RAM, but XP only sees 2.72 of that.

The game seems to run fine for a while. I'm getting 80 fps out in the wilderness and 25-30 in town. No textures or models disappear before the crash. No stuttering. The fans aren't getting louder. It just stops and locks up the computer. I can't alt-tab or ctl-alt-del. Only a restart works. Memory leak maybe?

I had the same problem on a Radeon 4850.  The game would run for a bit and then - crash.  Just, die.  Nothing would work - black screen, CTL-ALT-DEL did nothing.  I had to manually power it off and on, or manually use the reset button.

What worked to fix the problem for a while was actually taking the case off my PC and blowing a box fan onto it - my ultimate cooling method to test for overheading.  (It's very hard for a box to overheat when it's completely open and high velocity air is blowing over it.)  Thing is, no overheating warnings went off as they normally would.  I never would have known it WAS overheating unless I physically touched the card and drew back my hand going "ouch" - for whatever reason, the self regulating mechanisms weren't functioning at all when it came to temp control.  But ONLY for Fallen Earth.  Weird, no?

Now I can play the game just fine if I take the case off and blow a fan over it.  Nothing else - no other game, not STO, not Aion, not WAR - pretty much nothing else causes it to overheat at maximum settings.  I've built custom cooling systems for people before as well so it's not that I don't understand cooling systems.  It's just that some new MMO's seem to be causing some very odd things to be happening with graphics cards.

In my case, it wasn't a memory leak at all.  The hard crash/system totally unresponsive was simply an overheating graphics card.

Originally posted by maskedweasel

Originally posted by blakavar

Ah a laptop, I was going to suggest leaving one of the sides open on your tower to help cool your rig.

Sudden crashes and reboots like what your describing usually are a heating issue.

 

Ich! please don't keep the side of your case open to cool your rig!  It actually does more damage as yo udon't have the wind tunnel anymore to take heat off your components!   I feel like writing with exclamation points today!

Not true, actually.  I worked in a QA lab for quite a while, working with both hardware and software.  Sometimes we would totally remove the case from a PC and run a box-fan or something similar over the entire board to cool it; even the air in a wind tunnel can get very hot.  Simple physics tells you that the fastest way to disperse temperature is to increase surface area to the maximum available and then cool with water or air.

Originally posted by Khalathwyr

Originally posted by maskedweasel

Originally posted by blakavar

Ah a laptop, I was going to suggest leaving one of the sides open on your tower to help cool your rig.

Sudden crashes and reboots like what your describing usually are a heating issue.

 

Ich! please don't keep the side of your case open to cool your rig!  It actually does more damage as yo udon't have the wind tunnel anymore to take heat off your components!   I feel like writing with exclamation points today!

 

I keep the side off my Antec 900. Course, I have a blowing directly on to the "guts" of my rig.

LOL - exactly!  A box fan and an open case is the best cooling system out there, bar none.  Don't believe me?  Take physical temperature reads of your components!