Originally posted by Gameloading

Originally posted by Fishermage

Originally posted by Gameloading

Originally posted by Fishermage

Originally posted by Gameloading

Calling me a Would be Tyrant is just as bad as calling me a tyrant because it would mean that if I were to pull a Bruce Almighty, you would call me a Tyrant. Using their ideas is not an excuse, that's like me saying it's okay to call somebody an idiot based on their ideas. In general, people insult each other because other peoples ideas.

I did call you a spin doctor and I'm fully aware that it is a personal attack, and the only reason i'm attacking you personally is because you do to the same to me and other people. I'm calling you a spin doctor because you spin the truth around. A perfect example is one you mentioned right here, claiming I don't read books and think they are outdated.

This is a perfect example of spin. What I said is that books regarding certain political subjects are often outdated due to politics and society changing. Now if you agree with that is irrelevant, the point is that you leave out a very important part of a describtion of what i believe, pretending as if i said I don't read books and think they outdated and you happily spread that around.

I'm not ignoring your ideas because I disagree with them, I'm ignoring your ideas because it seems you are incapable of expressing your ideas without insulting people who think otherwise.

I see no matter how many times and ways that i show you the difference between what I do and what you do, you just aren;t going to understand it.

However, I am still interested in what books you have read. I am still trying to get to know who you are and what your intellectual roots are -- more than you do with me -- whom you just launch attacks. However I shall extend my grace yet again to you.

Okay lets try it again: what books have you read and how have they influenced you?

 

Oh I understand all to well. You're a hypocrite, whenever you insult other people it's fine, but if others do it you cry foul. There is not much to understand here.

You're not interested in what books I have read nor are you interested in who I am or what my intellectual roots are. You're looking for an opening to attack me once more. If I gave you a full list of sources I have read and studied, I can already predict your following argument, which is either going to be

" XX book is not on the list, this means you are uninformed"

Or/and

"I read XX book that's on your list, it's not good and that's why you are uninformed"

 

 

In other words, you are afraid or embarassed to tell me what books you have or have not read. Thank you for your time.

More typical spin from Fishermage. This is exactly why i called you a spin doctor, but I didn't expect much.

You prove once more you're incapable of actually having a debate without spin and lies.

You prove once more you are afraid that your ignorance will be revealed. there is no debate here. I asked you a simple question and you are afraid to answer.

Are the two of you married to each other?  This good-bye thread has become bizarre.

Originally posted by Fishermage

Originally posted by Gameloading

Originally posted by Fishermage

Originally posted by Gameloading

Originally posted by Fishermage

Originally posted by Gameloading

Calling me a Would be Tyrant is just as bad as calling me a tyrant because it would mean that if I were to pull a Bruce Almighty, you would call me a Tyrant. Using their ideas is not an excuse, that's like me saying it's okay to call somebody an idiot based on their ideas. In general, people insult each other because other peoples ideas.

I did call you a spin doctor and I'm fully aware that it is a personal attack, and the only reason i'm attacking you personally is because you do to the same to me and other people. I'm calling you a spin doctor because you spin the truth around. A perfect example is one you mentioned right here, claiming I don't read books and think they are outdated.

This is a perfect example of spin. What I said is that books regarding certain political subjects are often outdated due to politics and society changing. Now if you agree with that is irrelevant, the point is that you leave out a very important part of a describtion of what i believe, pretending as if i said I don't read books and think they outdated and you happily spread that around.

I'm not ignoring your ideas because I disagree with them, I'm ignoring your ideas because it seems you are incapable of expressing your ideas without insulting people who think otherwise.

I see no matter how many times and ways that i show you the difference between what I do and what you do, you just aren;t going to understand it.

However, I am still interested in what books you have read. I am still trying to get to know who you are and what your intellectual roots are -- more than you do with me -- whom you just launch attacks. However I shall extend my grace yet again to you.

Okay lets try it again: what books have you read and how have they influenced you?

 

Oh I understand all to well. You're a hypocrite, whenever you insult other people it's fine, but if others do it you cry foul. There is not much to understand here.

You're not interested in what books I have read nor are you interested in who I am or what my intellectual roots are. You're looking for an opening to attack me once more. If I gave you a full list of sources I have read and studied, I can already predict your following argument, which is either going to be

" XX book is not on the list, this means you are uninformed"

Or/and

"I read XX book that's on your list, it's not good and that's why you are uninformed"

 

 

In other words, you are afraid or embarassed to tell me what books you have or have not read. Thank you for your time.

More typical spin from Fishermage. This is exactly why i called you a spin doctor, but I didn't expect much.

You prove once more you're incapable of actually having a debate without spin and lies.

 

You prove once more you are afraid that your ignorance will be revealed. there is no debate here. I asked you a simple question and you are afraid to answer.

And I gave you a very clear reason why I'm not answering your question which has nothing to do with "fear". Only a spin doctor would spin it around and claim it is out of fear.

Let me explain it once more, although I have no idea why I bother.

You do not care where I get my sources from. Not one bit. What you're looking for is an excuse to attack my credibility. I could have read 80% of books regarding this subject and when I would list them, you would use one of the following excuses:

" XX book is not on the list, this means you are uninformed"

Or/and

"I read XX book that's on your list, it's not good and that's why you are uninformed"

That has nothing to do with fear, that is me not assisting you in your pathetic attempt at attacking my credibility.

Gameloading you are doing more damage to your credibility by not answering the question than by just answering it. Perhaps just start by telling us a little bit about yourself so that we can at least put your opinions in context?

I do think Fisher and I (well at least I do) have a geniune curiosity in what has shaped your views.  Although I don't doubt that Fisher was also looking for an avenue to attack your credibility =p.

Originally posted by Gameloading

Originally posted by Fishermage

Originally posted by Gameloading

Originally posted by Fishermage

Originally posted by Gameloading

Originally posted by Fishermage

Originally posted by Gameloading

Calling me a Would be Tyrant is just as bad as calling me a tyrant because it would mean that if I were to pull a Bruce Almighty, you would call me a Tyrant. Using their ideas is not an excuse, that's like me saying it's okay to call somebody an idiot based on their ideas. In general, people insult each other because other peoples ideas.

I did call you a spin doctor and I'm fully aware that it is a personal attack, and the only reason i'm attacking you personally is because you do to the same to me and other people. I'm calling you a spin doctor because you spin the truth around. A perfect example is one you mentioned right here, claiming I don't read books and think they are outdated.

This is a perfect example of spin. What I said is that books regarding certain political subjects are often outdated due to politics and society changing. Now if you agree with that is irrelevant, the point is that you leave out a very important part of a describtion of what i believe, pretending as if i said I don't read books and think they outdated and you happily spread that around.

I'm not ignoring your ideas because I disagree with them, I'm ignoring your ideas because it seems you are incapable of expressing your ideas without insulting people who think otherwise.

I see no matter how many times and ways that i show you the difference between what I do and what you do, you just aren;t going to understand it.

However, I am still interested in what books you have read. I am still trying to get to know who you are and what your intellectual roots are -- more than you do with me -- whom you just launch attacks. However I shall extend my grace yet again to you.

Okay lets try it again: what books have you read and how have they influenced you?

 

Oh I understand all to well. You're a hypocrite, whenever you insult other people it's fine, but if others do it you cry foul. There is not much to understand here.

You're not interested in what books I have read nor are you interested in who I am or what my intellectual roots are. You're looking for an opening to attack me once more. If I gave you a full list of sources I have read and studied, I can already predict your following argument, which is either going to be

" XX book is not on the list, this means you are uninformed"

Or/and

"I read XX book that's on your list, it's not good and that's why you are uninformed"

 

 

In other words, you are afraid or embarassed to tell me what books you have or have not read. Thank you for your time.

More typical spin from Fishermage. This is exactly why i called you a spin doctor, but I didn't expect much.

You prove once more you're incapable of actually having a debate without spin and lies.

 

You prove once more you are afraid that your ignorance will be revealed. there is no debate here. I asked you a simple question and you are afraid to answer.

 

And I gave you a very clear reason why I'm not answering your question which has nothing to do with "fear". Only a spin doctor would spin it around and claim it is out of fear.

Let me explain it once more, although I have no idea why I bother.

You do not care where I get my sources from. Not one bit. What you're looking for is an excuse to attack my credibility. I could have read 80% of books regarding this subject and when I would list them, you would use one of the following excuses:

" XX book is not on the list, this means you are uninformed"

Or/and

"I read XX book that's on your list, it's not good and that's why you are uninformed"

That has nothing to do with fear, that is me not assisting you in your pathetic attempt at attacking my credibility.

Dude, I merely want to know what shaped you and how you became the person you are today intellectually. I have read MORE things against what I believe in than FOR what I believe in -- this way I am challenged.

I want to understand why you say the shit that you do. Instead of making up and speculating what I will do, please show some stones and take a chance. I want to know more about you. You are a smart guy and I want to understand you better.

And as to the marriage question some other guy said above...lol no thanks, my lightsaber don't turn that way, I have a lovely female wife :)

I am however looking for an apprentice and a nasty young lad like Gameloading has potential. I'm kinda looking for someone with a deeper spiritual side though (his anger at this God he supposedly doesn't believe is good stuff though). His nastiness definitely shows promise.

Originally posted by smokemonsc

Gameloading you are doing more damage to your credibility by not answering the question than by just answering it. Perhaps just start by telling us a little bit about yourself so that we can at least put your opinions in context?

I do think Fisher and I (well at least I do) have a geniune curiosity in what has shaped your views.  Although I don't doubt that Fisher was also looking for an avenue to attack your credibility =p.

LOL. Maybe if he left me an opening. My point is that I am a pretty fair marxian/socialist scholar, and I want to know where he got his views. I am curious of where heis moral relativism combined with such an absolutist political outlook comes from.  find the combination interesting and I want to know more. I haven't seen such absolutism combined with so much relativism in a loooooong time.

I also want to know how he keeps his head from exploding from the contradictions, but that's something else entirely.

Originally posted by smokemonsc

Gameloading you are doing more damage to your credibility by not answering the question than by just answering it. Perhaps just start by telling us a little bit about yourself so that we can at least put your opinions in context?

I do think Fisher and I (well at least I do) have a geniune curiosity in what has shaped your views.  Although I don't doubt that Fisher was also looking for an avenue to attack your credibility =p.

I do not care what hurts my credibility or what doesn't, but that is no reason why I should assist fisher in what is nothing more than yet another one of his attacks.
anybody who questions my credibility simply because I see no need to support Fishermages attack isn't worth caring what they think of my credibility.

On top of that, I find the suggestion I should mention my written sources is downright silly Because you're going after the poster instead of the point and it implies that written literacy is the only source one can base a valid opinion on.

Anybody who has paid attention to Fishermages posting behavior can notice that Fishermage attacks people who he disagrees with. Fishermage is actually a very predictable person as far as his posting behavrior is concerned

If Fishermage has some common ground with somebody else about subjects that matter to him, he will be respectful towards that person. However when he encounters someone he has little or no common ground with on subjects that matter to him, he will call that person a socialist, tyrant, hater of freedom and make attacks on their credibility.

A perfect example of this is his attitude towards Faxxer. Everybody knows that Faxxer is by far the most hateful person around here.  Faxxer is a right wing conservative and as Fishermage has much more in common with the right than the left, Faxxer is given the free pass. Oh he will mention he doesn't always agree and that he goes a little bit to far at times. but he is treating him with respect.

On the other hand he will mention whenever he gets the chance that the left is very hateful around here, going as far as calling the left wing posters here as a "thugocracy" and "evil". The highlight of this was when he told Faxxer they wouldn't sink to the level of the left and that they will be above the so called insulting posting nature of liberal posters, and also that God was on their side.  It was the very definition of irony.

Fisher also loves to jump into the victim role and the other side is always worse.

The left is always more evil and hateful than the right.

Atheists are far more hateful than christians.

Conservatives are bad, but liberals are far worse.

People on the left insult other people but him using words such as Tyrant and Freedom Hater are not insulting in the least.

If you pay a close attention, the real motivation just comes shining through.

Originally posted by Gameloading

Originally posted by smokemonsc

Gameloading you are doing more damage to your credibility by not answering the question than by just answering it. Perhaps just start by telling us a little bit about yourself so that we can at least put your opinions in context?

I do think Fisher and I (well at least I do) have a geniune curiosity in what has shaped your views.  Although I don't doubt that Fisher was also looking for an avenue to attack your credibility =p.

 

I do not care what hurts my credibility or what doesn't, but that is no reason why I should assist fisher in what is nothing more than yet another one of his attacks.
anybody who questions my credibility simply because I see no need to support Fishermages attack isn't worth caring what they think of my credibility.

On top of that, I find the suggestion I should mention my written sources is downright silly Because you're going after the poster instead of the point and it implies that written literacy is the only source one can base a valid opinion on.

Anybody who has paid attention to Fishermages posting behavior can notice that Fishermage attacks people who he disagrees with. Fishermage is actually a very predictable person as far as his posting behavrior is concerned

If Fishermage has some common ground with somebody else about subjects that matter to him. he will be respectful towards that person. However when he encounters somewhat he has little or no common ground with on subjects that matter to him, he will call that person a socialist, tyrant, hater of freedom and make attacks on their credibility.

A perfect example of this is his attitude towards Faxxer. Everybody knows that Faxxer is by far the most hateful person around here.  Faxxer is a right wing conservative and as Fishermage has much more in common with the right than the left, Faxxer is given the free pass. Oh he will mention he doesn't always agree and that he goes a little bit to far at times. but he is treating him with respect.

On the other hand he will mention whenever he gets the chance that the left is very hateful around here, going as far as calling the left wing posters here as a "thugocracy" and "evil". The highlight of this was when he told Faxxer they wouldn't sink to the level of the left and that they will be above the so called insulting posting nature of liberal posters, and also that God was on their side.  It was the very definition of irony.

Fisher also loves to jump into the victim role and the other side is always worse.

The left is always more evil and hateful than the right.

Atheists are far more hateful than christians.

Conservatives are bad, but liberals are far worse.

People on the left insult other people but him using words such as Tyrant and Freedom Hater are not insulting in the least.

If you pay a close attention, the real motivation just comes shining through.

Actually, I am a liberal. You are a leftist reactionary.

The left is no more hateful than the right. Kiddy and Enki are great guys, and they are lefties.

On this website, you are Sabian are far more hateful than any of the Christians here, but there are plenty of atheists and agnistics that are great guys. Plenty of Christians that I have serious disagreements with, but pretty much all of them are nicer guys than you/

Calling you a WOULD-be tyrant is an insult I am glad you think so. Now stop advocating tyranny.

Freedom hater is a bad thing, now stop hating economic freedom, because all life has an economic component -- one can not separate a man from his actions, and his actions are part of him. Economic liberty is personal liberty.

Again I have no prpblems with people I disagree with who are nice people. You are a nasty person so it leads to problems. I am a nice person when people are nice to me. When people are jackasses, I just beat them at their own game. It's just part of my rather odd sense of humor, which obviously sails right over your big head.

You don't even realzie when you are being played.

At any rate, I am still honestly interested in what you think -- not to ATTACK you, but to understand you :)

You are so obnoxious you think everyone is like you. I'm not. I'm honestly interested in how you think and don't want to make my own suppositions as you do. I want to know more.

Originally posted by Fishermage

Originally posted by Gameloading

Originally posted by smokemonsc

Gameloading you are doing more damage to your credibility by not answering the question than by just answering it. Perhaps just start by telling us a little bit about yourself so that we can at least put your opinions in context?

I do think Fisher and I (well at least I do) have a geniune curiosity in what has shaped your views.  Although I don't doubt that Fisher was also looking for an avenue to attack your credibility =p.

 

I do not care what hurts my credibility or what doesn't, but that is no reason why I should assist fisher in what is nothing more than yet another one of his attacks.
anybody who questions my credibility simply because I see no need to support Fishermages attack isn't worth caring what they think of my credibility.

On top of that, I find the suggestion I should mention my written sources is downright silly Because you're going after the poster instead of the point and it implies that written literacy is the only source one can base a valid opinion on.

Anybody who has paid attention to Fishermages posting behavior can notice that Fishermage attacks people who he disagrees with. Fishermage is actually a very predictable person as far as his posting behavrior is concerned

If Fishermage has some common ground with somebody else about subjects that matter to him. he will be respectful towards that person. However when he encounters somewhat he has little or no common ground with on subjects that matter to him, he will call that person a socialist, tyrant, hater of freedom and make attacks on their credibility.

A perfect example of this is his attitude towards Faxxer. Everybody knows that Faxxer is by far the most hateful person around here.  Faxxer is a right wing conservative and as Fishermage has much more in common with the right than the left, Faxxer is given the free pass. Oh he will mention he doesn't always agree and that he goes a little bit to far at times. but he is treating him with respect.

On the other hand he will mention whenever he gets the chance that the left is very hateful around here, going as far as calling the left wing posters here as a "thugocracy" and "evil". The highlight of this was when he told Faxxer they wouldn't sink to the level of the left and that they will be above the so called insulting posting nature of liberal posters, and also that God was on their side.  It was the very definition of irony.

Fisher also loves to jump into the victim role and the other side is always worse.

The left is always more evil and hateful than the right.

Atheists are far more hateful than christians.

Conservatives are bad, but liberals are far worse.

People on the left insult other people but him using words such as Tyrant and Freedom Hater are not insulting in the least.

If you pay a close attention, the real motivation just comes shining through.

 

Actually, I am a liberal. You are a leftist reactionary.

The left is no more hateful than the right. Kiddy and Enki are great guys, and they are lefties.

On this website, you are Sabian are far more hateful than any of the Christians here, but there are plenty of atheists and agnistics that are great guys. Plenty of Christians that I have serious disagreements with, but pretty much all of them are nicer guys than you/

Calling you a WOULD-be tyrant is an insult I am glad you think so. Now stop advocating tyranny.

Freedom hater is a bad thing, now stop hating economic freedom, because all life has an economic component -- one can not separate a man from his actions, and his actions are part of him. Economic liberty is personal liberty.

Again I have no prpblems with people I disagree with who are nice people. You are a nasty person so it leads to problems. I am a nice person when people are nice to me. When people are jackasses, I just beat them at their own game. It's just part of my rather odd sense of humor, which obviously sails right over your big head.

You don't even realzie when you are being played.

At any rate, I am still honestly interested in what you think -- not to ATTACK you, but to understand you :)

You are so obnoxious you think everyone is like you. I'm not. I'm honestly interested in how you think and don't want to make my own suppositions as you do. I want to know more.

Anybody can simply go over your post history and confirm what a downright liar you are. Me and Sabian are far more hateful? What a joke, nobody on this forum comes anywhere near the hate you and Faxxer spread.

You have claimed many times that the left is far more hateful than the right has, even going as far to say most people left because to hostile attitude of left wing posters and that this forum was ruled by left wing moderators despite the fact everybody was complaining.

I'm not advocating tyranny, Nobody on this forum supports tyranny. This is yet another perfect example of you abusing terms.

You have very big problems with people who you disagree with who are nice to you and you know it. You will call anybody you disagree with a tyrant, socialist, hater of freedom, or even pure evil. That's the reason you're getting a nasty attitude from me, because you lack any sense of respect for people who think different then you do. Not respecting other peoples ideas and thoughts is one thing, but you disrespect them as a person.

I hate God I don't believe in? Excellent work Spin Doctor. Ofcourse what I actually said is that a lack of intervention is an argument against the existance of  a caring God.

Seriously, Why would anybody want to be your apprentice? So they can learn how to spin arguments around? So they can insult other people or attack their credibility? Or to proclaim victory in a debate when they haven't really achieved anything? Who would want to learn the skills of an arrogant person like yourself?

I can only imagine what that would be like.

"Ok son. These are the basic rules work:

- If another person disagrees, Call them an advocate of Tyranny or fascists.
- Make sure you stress how disrespectful and insulting people on the other side are.
- If somebody calls you out on your disrespectful and offensive attitude, deny everything. Say it wasn't meant as an insult but the things that other person said were definitely insulting.
- Make sure you proclaim victory somewhere half along the debate. When somebody gets tired of your offensive attitude, claim they just didn't know what to bring to the debate and proclaim victory again.
- make sure you mention that you just can't find a challenge around here from time to time.
- Make sure that you're always the victim."

Originally posted by Gameloading

Originally posted by Fishermage

Originally posted by Gameloading

Originally posted by smokemonsc

Gameloading you are doing more damage to your credibility by not answering the question than by just answering it. Perhaps just start by telling us a little bit about yourself so that we can at least put your opinions in context?

I do think Fisher and I (well at least I do) have a geniune curiosity in what has shaped your views.  Although I don't doubt that Fisher was also looking for an avenue to attack your credibility =p.

 

I do not care what hurts my credibility or what doesn't, but that is no reason why I should assist fisher in what is nothing more than yet another one of his attacks.
anybody who questions my credibility simply because I see no need to support Fishermages attack isn't worth caring what they think of my credibility.

On top of that, I find the suggestion I should mention my written sources is downright silly Because you're going after the poster instead of the point and it implies that written literacy is the only source one can base a valid opinion on.

Anybody who has paid attention to Fishermages posting behavior can notice that Fishermage attacks people who he disagrees with. Fishermage is actually a very predictable person as far as his posting behavrior is concerned

If Fishermage has some common ground with somebody else about subjects that matter to him. he will be respectful towards that person. However when he encounters somewhat he has little or no common ground with on subjects that matter to him, he will call that person a socialist, tyrant, hater of freedom and make attacks on their credibility.

A perfect example of this is his attitude towards Faxxer. Everybody knows that Faxxer is by far the most hateful person around here.  Faxxer is a right wing conservative and as Fishermage has much more in common with the right than the left, Faxxer is given the free pass. Oh he will mention he doesn't always agree and that he goes a little bit to far at times. but he is treating him with respect.

On the other hand he will mention whenever he gets the chance that the left is very hateful around here, going as far as calling the left wing posters here as a "thugocracy" and "evil". The highlight of this was when he told Faxxer they wouldn't sink to the level of the left and that they will be above the so called insulting posting nature of liberal posters, and also that God was on their side.  It was the very definition of irony.

Fisher also loves to jump into the victim role and the other side is always worse.

The left is always more evil and hateful than the right.

Atheists are far more hateful than christians.

Conservatives are bad, but liberals are far worse.

People on the left insult other people but him using words such as Tyrant and Freedom Hater are not insulting in the least.

If you pay a close attention, the real motivation just comes shining through.

 

Actually, I am a liberal. You are a leftist reactionary.

The left is no more hateful than the right. Kiddy and Enki are great guys, and they are lefties.

On this website, you are Sabian are far more hateful than any of the Christians here, but there are plenty of atheists and agnistics that are great guys. Plenty of Christians that I have serious disagreements with, but pretty much all of them are nicer guys than you/

Calling you a WOULD-be tyrant is an insult I am glad you think so. Now stop advocating tyranny.

Freedom hater is a bad thing, now stop hating economic freedom, because all life has an economic component -- one can not separate a man from his actions, and his actions are part of him. Economic liberty is personal liberty.

Again I have no prpblems with people I disagree with who are nice people. You are a nasty person so it leads to problems. I am a nice person when people are nice to me. When people are jackasses, I just beat them at their own game. It's just part of my rather odd sense of humor, which obviously sails right over your big head.

You don't even realzie when you are being played.

At any rate, I am still honestly interested in what you think -- not to ATTACK you, but to understand you :)

You are so obnoxious you think everyone is like you. I'm not. I'm honestly interested in how you think and don't want to make my own suppositions as you do. I want to know more.

 

Anybody can simply go over your post history and confirm what a downright liar you are. Me and Sabian are far more hateful? What a joke, nobody on this forum comes anywhere near the hate you and Faxxer spread.

You have claimed many times that the left is far more hateful than the right has, even going as far to say most people left because to hostile attitude of left wing posters and that this forum was ruled by left wing moderators despite the fact everybody was complaining.

I'm not advocating tyranny, Nobody on this forum supports tyranny. This is yet another perfect example of you abusing terms.

You have very big problems with people who you disagree with who are nice to you and you know it. You will call anybody you disagree with a tyrant, socialist, hater of freedom, or even pure evil. That's the reason you're getting a nasty attitude from me, because you lack any sense of respect for people who think different then you do. Not respecting other peoples ideas and thoughts is one thing, but you disrespect them as a person.

I hate God I don't believe in? Excellent work Spin Doctor. Ofcourse what I actually said is that a lack of intervention is an argument against the existance of  a caring God.

Seriously, Why would anybody want to be your apprentice? So they can learn how to spin arguments around? So they can insult other people or attack their credibility? Or to proclaim victory in a debate when they haven't really achieved anything? Who would want to learn the skills of an arrogant person like yourself?

I can only imagine what that would be like.

"Ok son. These are the basic rules work:

- If another person disagrees, Call them an advocate of Tyranny or fascists.
- Make sure you stress how disrespectful and insulting people on the other side are.
- If somebody calls you out on your disrespectful and offensive attitude, deny everything. Say it wasn't meant as an insult but the things that other person said were definitely insulting.
- Make sure you proclaim victory somewhere half along the debate. When somebody gets tired of your offensive attitude, claim they just didn't know what to bring to the debate and proclaim victory again.
- make sure you mention that you just can't find a challenge around here from time to time.
- Make sure that you're always the victim."

Most of this isn't worth addressing, however i will deal with one very weak point you made.

You do not believe people own their own property, their own businesses, their own money. That's tyranny.

I'm sorry you think that's an insult -- maybe you should simply stop advocating tyranny.

I have NEVER claimed to be a victim. Calling you out on your BS, your hatred, and your childish attacks is not being a victim. This is me kicking your ass over and over, how could I ever be a victim?

Dont go man, please.

Take a break, or something.

This may sound Old school, wizzard of Oz hopefull, But-hehe I said But, thats a bozo nono.

But, I think that there are times comming, unavoidable times, regardless of who's in office, been in office and, going to be in office. And, we are going to need each other. And I think we need you.

These things I feel, there is no spread sheet, or data report, to support this, just a solid knowing in my heart.

Heck just stay to call me crazy, it's cool.

I am not, I am too, I am not.