I can see into the future and I can predict the 1 true wow killer...

The next mmo blizzard is working on :P

All the what will kill wow threads are pretty funny I just wanted to add my own so there ya go :P

Nope, sorry, totally completely utterly off.

The true WoW killer is...

Pie.

Many games have promised to be the WoW-killer. None delivered on that promise so far.

I do not think even Blizzard can top what happened with WOW. Just one of those times when time and place and IP all worked at exactly the right time.

Not to take anything from them, whatever MMO they put out i am sure it will do well, but kind of hard to hit the lottery more than once in a lifetime:)

Originally posted by Ethrasime

Many games have promised to be the WoW-killer. None delivered on that promise so far.

besides aoc

Originally posted by ncryan10

Originally posted by Ethrasime

Many games have promised to be the WoW-killer. None delivered on that promise so far.

 

besides aoc

And Warhammer.

ummm... AoC and WAR delivered on killing WoW? lets.... WoW millions of subs and still growing, AOC and WAR probably never even peaked at a million active subs and practically died within their first year, though AoC is at least still flailing about, WAR is just dead (argue it all you want but i spent several months on WAR along with my brother, both at launch, and this summer, played on multiple servers, multiple guilds, both realms, over 40 toons throughout every tier, etc, and its just plain done for) unless they revamp their entire dev team and give players a real reason to come back.

Originally posted by kaiser3282

ummm... AoC and WAR delivered on killing WoW? lets.... WoW millions of subs and still growing, AOC and WAR probably never even peaked at a million active subs and practically died within their first year, though AoC is at least still flailing about, WAR is just dead (argue it all you want but i spent several months on WAR along with my brother, both at launch, and this summer, played on multiple servers, multiple guilds, both realms, over 40 toons throughout every tier, etc, and its just plain done for) unless they revamp their entire dev team and give players a real reason to come back.

Wow...lemme just walk behind you, scrape this off the wall and here ya go. This goo that splattered on the wall as it sailed over your head is called sarcasm.

Um sorry am i having deja-vu... o no there has been many threads with the same topic..the next wow killer is blizzards next mmo.. the wow killer was already here and gone it was hellgate london !!! lol.. who cares about wow killers ..when can i play a virtual mmo with natal or somthing similar now thats a wow killer... and for somthing random what ever happened to onlive? lol random night

Originally posted by drajaic

Originally posted by kaiser3282

ummm... AoC and WAR delivered on killing WoW? lets.... WoW millions of subs and still growing, AOC and WAR probably never even peaked at a million active subs and practically died within their first year, though AoC is at least still flailing about, WAR is just dead (argue it all you want but i spent several months on WAR along with my brother, both at launch, and this summer, played on multiple servers, multiple guilds, both realms, over 40 toons throughout every tier, etc, and its just plain done for) unless they revamp their entire dev team and give players a real reason to come back.

 

Wow...lemme just walk behind you, scrape this off the wall and here ya go. This goo that splattered on the wall as it sailed over your head is called sarcasm.

right....because sarcasm is portrayed so well in 2 word replies in text.

 Torchlight MMO!!!

Uh, hmmm, no?! Well, back to the drawing board.

If anything kills WoW in the future, it will either be;

A) SWTOR

B) Next Blizzard MMO

c) WoW 2

I really don't see it happening anytime soon though.

Who really cares, honestly?  Cuz I don't,  Im happy for Blizz and their WoW players and Im happy with my game.   I don't even think Blizzs new MMO they are working on will be as successful. People don't want to play other WoW clones because its obvious, people don't want to play a copy of a game when they can play the original.   The more sandboxish games the masses don't want to play obviously because they are all playing WoW.

WoW is kinda like Michael Jackson's Thriller. Its has the number 1 record sales of all time with 110 mill  the next closest is at 50 million.    MJ's next best seller was 9 years later with dangerous at 30mill. Blizzard has hit their high point and while the next game might do well considering most games sit around 500k subs or less, its going to be hard to top what they have already done. 

I don't think anything will kill wow, but rather it will even the market out like it should be.

If I had to guess what rivals wow it would be something from a independent studio.  Maybe 38 studios or something that just isn't on the radar right now.  Bioware looks to be the only exception right now, but I am cautious about hyped games that have historically not delivered.

 RED 5 Studio  talk some seriously awesome talk, but it'll be a while until we can actually see something.

I think Cataclysm will either damage WoW - OR propel it firmly into the 20million mark. Its blizzard so probably the latter.

But blizzards next mmo... mm you just know its going to be a sandbox. cannot wait to hear the crying about that. I might not play WoW any more, but I fucking love the QQ associated with it.

Originally posted by Ethrasime

Many games have promised to be the WoW-killer. None delivered on that promise so far.

What specific games are you talking about? I don't remember any game stating it would be a killer. It was always the community saying that.

Originally posted by SonofSeth

 Torchlight MMO!!!

 

Uh, hmmm, no?! Well, back to the drawing board.

Hey, that would be pretty fun if it's anything like Diablo multiplayer :(

 The only wow-killer there will ever be is TIME, and ITSELF. 

Originally posted by Heyitschris

 The only wow-killer there will ever be is TIME, and ITSELF. 

I wouldn't be too confident. There is a Star Wars MMO coming along the way and it is being developed by Bioware. Star Wars is even bigger than Warcraft and well, Bioware delivered quite a lot of over-the-top games.

Originally posted by greenmann

Originally posted by Ethrasime

Many games have promised to be the WoW-killer. None delivered on that promise so far.

 

What specific games are you talking about? I don't remember any game stating it would be a killer. It was always the community saying that.

HAHA.
 

How easy people forget. Mark Jacobs: 'Gloves are off now" (directed at the CEO of Blizzard) or how MJ bet with his won staff WAR would have at least 2 to 3 Million western subs by the end of ... 2009.

War  now has 5NA/5EU servers (coming from 113 servers) and is played with less than 100K player. They still have 2 months left to find those 2.900.000 players now.

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In general people (and even  in thisindustry) have NO clue just how incredible a number of 1 M western subs really is.

I figure you'll need to have a game that sells for 2 to 3 years in the top 5 of PC games (probably around 2 M copies EACH year) and ... that stays there.

Otherwise it falls under the 1M western subs.

To beat WOW you would need a game that simply is the best selling PC game for 5 years straight AND that keeps its player base around 3 years on average. WOW and its 2 expansions was simple the best selling PC game in 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008 and probably in 2009 (runners up PC games would be Sims3 and COD X, but at a long distance).

And with Cataclysm coming out (with all new features they included in the expansions as of level ... 1 now), I bet  a 1000 dollars (100 to 1), it will be the best seller in 2010 too.

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