Originally posted by Ramonski7

Originally posted by Astralglide

Originally posted by altairzq

Originally posted by Astralglide

Originally posted by Reanim

 

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Originally posted by vvistovv
Well the game is rated T for Teen.  It is up the parent to decide what may or may not be appropriate for their child.  I love it how some parents point to video games as a scape goat for bad behavior when they are the ones that bought the game in the first place.  And not just video games.  If a fight breaks out in school, they point to the school.  Teach them right and hope for the best.  You cannot put all the blame on any one thing.
If you're so easily offended, maybe you ought to not play mmo's.  General chat can bring out the stupidity in people.

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Most mmo's would not allow names of this type to be used. I doub't you would find character names of this sort on lotro, wow, eq or any other main stream mmo.

Do you actually think this would be okay with any parent?

The fact that you are defending this kind of behavior shows a disturbing desensitivity. This is plain sick. I guess ethnic slurs would be okay too huh? Or perhaps names that degrade woman.

Where does it stop and when did sick and twisted become okay?

Reanim

So, we should start censoring people? And since when are unoffensive names not allowed on mainstream mmo's? On my server (WoW) there's a guy named DuckButter (gay creampie reference) and a slew of names referring to sexual and some may even be considered racist. People have the right to be offensive, that is the downside to free speach. You have the right to put those people on your ignore lists. Calling someone "sick and twisted" because they think that people should be allowed to name their toons how they please. You can't sue Aion over toon names, and I wonder what kind of sick and twisted world we live in where people want to take away others rights because they find something distatseful

 

Sick and twisted world where people want to take away others rights to name themselves "pedophile"???

You must be insane, dumb or one of them.

Yes. "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances." And how is calling me insane, dumb, or a pedophile (using the spirit of your words) not offensive? How Can you really form an argument about abusive language while at the same time using abusive language?

 

 

Lucky for him that the ULA (here and in Aion) makes that little paragraph that you pulled moot......Unless you feel that an American right is universal to anything else known to man..

 

Limits are set for a reason, as I explained before. Waving a piece of paper in someone's face to pacify their stance on something deemed inappropriate while under the rules set forth by another person's creation is pointless.

Well, if those names go against Aion's EULA, then they need to enforce that, seeing as how an EULA is a contract. Also, if the game is being played by Americans in America (or in most of Europe which has similar freedoms) then they are required to follow the laws of this country. If they include naming rules in their EULA (I have not read it), then they need to enforce those naming rules. However, "molest" is synonomous with harassment and "Pedophile" is Latin. If the game's mods are foreign, they might not be familiar with the connotations that those names have in America. If you are offended by it, you should report it to the moderators. Calling me names will not help your case. Oh and, I read your signature, btw:

"Small minds talk about people, average minds talk about events, great minds talk about ideas."

Maybe you should choose a new slogan.  Just a suggestion :)

By "one of them" I mean someone that would use such names in a game.

yeah i d have to agree with the op its totally unacceptable . report him you never know ncsoft might ban him .

Originally posted by Astralglide

Originally posted by altairzq

Originally posted by Astralglide

Originally posted by Reanim

 

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Originally posted by vvistovv
Well the game is rated T for Teen.  It is up the parent to decide what may or may not be appropriate for their child.  I love it how some parents point to video games as a scape goat for bad behavior when they are the ones that bought the game in the first place.  And not just video games.  If a fight breaks out in school, they point to the school.  Teach them right and hope for the best.  You cannot put all the blame on any one thing.
If you're so easily offended, maybe you ought to not play mmo's.  General chat can bring out the stupidity in people.

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Most mmo's would not allow names of this type to be used. I doub't you would find character names of this sort on lotro, wow, eq or any other main stream mmo.

Do you actually think this would be okay with any parent?

The fact that you are defending this kind of behavior shows a disturbing desensitivity. This is plain sick. I guess ethnic slurs would be okay too huh? Or perhaps names that degrade woman.

Where does it stop and when did sick and twisted become okay?

Reanim

So, we should start censoring people? And since when are unoffensive names not allowed on mainstream mmo's? On my server (WoW) there's a guy named DuckButter (gay creampie reference) and a slew of names referring to sexual and some may even be considered racist. People have the right to be offensive, that is the downside to free speach. You have the right to put those people on your ignore lists. Calling someone "sick and twisted" because they think that people should be allowed to name their toons how they please. You can't sue Aion over toon names, and I wonder what kind of sick and twisted world we live in where people want to take away others rights because they find something distatseful

 

Sick and twisted world where people want to take away others rights to name themselves "pedophile"???

You must be insane, dumb or one of them.

Yes. "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances." And how is calling me insane, dumb, or a pedophile (using the spirit of your words) not offensive? How Can you really form an argument about abusive language while at the same time using abusive language?

 

I don't believe freedom of speech is about someone renaming themselves pedohile or even saying whatever they want on a forum but probably has more to do with being able to talk about political or sociological topics without fear of being jailed.

Though this is pulled from wikipedia I can't believe it is entirely incorrect. There is no such thing as total "being able to say anything you want whenever you want, regardless of a particular country's laws.

"In practice, the right to freedom of speech is not absolute in any country and the right is commonly subject to limitations, such as on "hate speech"."

http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/104011/

I believe this little clip from southpark might sum it up for some. Might be a commerical and might include language offensive to some.
 

The only thing NCsoft will do is force a name change.  Even if the person persists, they will force a name change.  If its not against the EULA they will ignore you.

I actually saw a character named "motherfucker" in Poeta a week or two ago.  Surely reported by now, but amazing that the obvious isn't auto-filtered during character creation...

Originally posted by Sovrath

Originally posted by Astralglide

Originally posted by altairzq

Originally posted by Astralglide

Originally posted by Reanim

 

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Originally posted by vvistovv
Well the game is rated T for Teen.  It is up the parent to decide what may or may not be appropriate for their child.  I love it how some parents point to video games as a scape goat for bad behavior when they are the ones that bought the game in the first place.  And not just video games.  If a fight breaks out in school, they point to the school.  Teach them right and hope for the best.  You cannot put all the blame on any one thing.
If you're so easily offended, maybe you ought to not play mmo's.  General chat can bring out the stupidity in people.

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Most mmo's would not allow names of this type to be used. I doub't you would find character names of this sort on lotro, wow, eq or any other main stream mmo.

Do you actually think this would be okay with any parent?

The fact that you are defending this kind of behavior shows a disturbing desensitivity. This is plain sick. I guess ethnic slurs would be okay too huh? Or perhaps names that degrade woman.

Where does it stop and when did sick and twisted become okay?

Reanim

So, we should start censoring people? And since when are unoffensive names not allowed on mainstream mmo's? On my server (WoW) there's a guy named DuckButter (gay creampie reference) and a slew of names referring to sexual and some may even be considered racist. People have the right to be offensive, that is the downside to free speach. You have the right to put those people on your ignore lists. Calling someone "sick and twisted" because they think that people should be allowed to name their toons how they please. You can't sue Aion over toon names, and I wonder what kind of sick and twisted world we live in where people want to take away others rights because they find something distatseful

 

Sick and twisted world where people want to take away others rights to name themselves "pedophile"???

You must be insane, dumb or one of them.

Yes. "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances." And how is calling me insane, dumb, or a pedophile (using the spirit of your words) not offensive? How Can you really form an argument about abusive language while at the same time using abusive language?

 

 

I don't believe freedom of speech is about someone renaming themselves pedohile or even saying whatever they want on a forum but probably has more to do with being able to talk about political or sociological topics without fear of being jailed.

Though this is pulled from wikipedia I can't believe it is entirely incorrect. There is no such thing as total "being able to say anything you want whenever you want, regardless of a particular country's laws.

"In practice, the right to freedom of speech is not absolute in any country and the right is commonly subject to limitations, such as on "hate speech"."

http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/104011/

 

I believe this little clip from southpark might sum it up for some. Might be a commerical and might include language offensive to some.
 

Great post. Not much else to say.

Originally posted by Korhindi

Originally posted by Reanim

 

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Originally posted by vvistovv
Well the game is rated T for Teen.  It is up the parent to decide what may or may not be appropriate for their child.  I love it how some parents point to video games as a scape goat for bad behavior when they are the ones that bought the game in the first place.  And not just video games.  If a fight breaks out in school, they point to the school.  Teach them right and hope for the best.  You cannot put all the blame on any one thing.
If you're so easily offended, maybe you ought to not play mmo's.  General chat can bring out the stupidity in people.

---

 

Most mmo's would not allow names of this type to be used. I doub't you would find character names of this sort on lotro, wow, eq or any other main stream mmo.

Do you actually think this would be okay with any parent?

The fact that you are defending this kind of behavior shows a disturbing desensitivity. This is plain sick. I guess ethnic slurs would be okay too huh? Or perhaps names that degrade woman.

Where does it stop and when did sick and twisted become okay?

Reanim

It stops when folks like you stop being so sensitive and choosing to be moral crusaders.  This is often backlash against self appointed moral "police" such as yourself.  

The reason folks make names like the ones you whine about is they think it is funny and they hope to make folks like you mad. From your post, it seems the trolls have won. If they were ignored they would go away.

When I see a toon named as you metioned, I simply write the controling player off as an asshat and I move on. I make no fanfare over it, and if the name is particularly foul and violates the ToS, I report it.  You will notice that 99.99% of the time, these toons vanish, either via banning or by the fact the player gets tired of it.

WoW, Lotro and the like HAVE had names like this in them.  In fact, I have seen far worse in many games.  This is not just limited to Aion, but is more a societal problem... or have you not seen the names that grace Facebook, Twitter or any forum account?

The poster you accused of being insensitive is right, if your children are not equipped to deal with such language, then they should probably not play a game open to the worldwide public.  It also shows that you have failed as a parent, and now want someone else to parent for you.

You may not think this, but you are being just as insensitive to views that are not inline with how you want the world to be.

You must remember that no one can make you offended.  You chose to take offense.

And I have chosen to take offense that you are trying to foist your holier than thou views on others in order for you to feel superior.

Is there like some sort of /bow command on forums?

Originally posted by Sovrath

Originally posted by Astralglide

Originally posted by altairzq

Originally posted by Astralglide

Originally posted by Reanim

 

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Originally posted by vvistovv
Well the game is rated T for Teen.  It is up the parent to decide what may or may not be appropriate for their child.  I love it how some parents point to video games as a scape goat for bad behavior when they are the ones that bought the game in the first place.  And not just video games.  If a fight breaks out in school, they point to the school.  Teach them right and hope for the best.  You cannot put all the blame on any one thing.
If you're so easily offended, maybe you ought to not play mmo's.  General chat can bring out the stupidity in people.

---

 

Most mmo's would not allow names of this type to be used. I doub't you would find character names of this sort on lotro, wow, eq or any other main stream mmo.

Do you actually think this would be okay with any parent?

The fact that you are defending this kind of behavior shows a disturbing desensitivity. This is plain sick. I guess ethnic slurs would be okay too huh? Or perhaps names that degrade woman.

Where does it stop and when did sick and twisted become okay?

Reanim

So, we should start censoring people? And since when are unoffensive names not allowed on mainstream mmo's? On my server (WoW) there's a guy named DuckButter (gay creampie reference) and a slew of names referring to sexual and some may even be considered racist. People have the right to be offensive, that is the downside to free speach. You have the right to put those people on your ignore lists. Calling someone "sick and twisted" because they think that people should be allowed to name their toons how they please. You can't sue Aion over toon names, and I wonder what kind of sick and twisted world we live in where people want to take away others rights because they find something distatseful

 

Sick and twisted world where people want to take away others rights to name themselves "pedophile"???

You must be insane, dumb or one of them.

Yes. "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances." And how is calling me insane, dumb, or a pedophile (using the spirit of your words) not offensive? How Can you really form an argument about abusive language while at the same time using abusive language?

 

 

I don't believe freedom of speech is about someone renaming themselves pedohile or even saying whatever they want on a forum but probably has more to do with being able to talk about political or sociological topics without fear of being jailed.

Though this is pulled from wikipedia I can't believe it is entirely incorrect. There is no such thing as total "being able to say anything you want whenever you want, regardless of a particular country's laws.

"In practice, the right to freedom of speech is not absolute in any country and the right is commonly subject to limitations, such as on "hate speech"."

http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/104011/

 

I believe this little clip from southpark might sum it up for some. Might be a commerical and might include language offensive to some.
 

I can agree, but why worry about someone named "Sir Loves2spooge" or "Ididyourmomlastnight" or whatever. If you see someone with a name that offends you, add him to your ignore list, report the name, and if that is allowable- GO PLAY ANOTHER GAME!

Originally posted by Astralglide

I can agree, but why worry about someone named "Sir Loves2spooge" or "Ididyourmomlastnight" or whatever. If you see someone with a name that offends you, add him to your ignore list, report the name, and if that is allowable- GO PLAY ANOTHER GAME!

Well, yes, that's exactly what I do.

Originally posted by Astralglide

Originally posted by Ramonski7

Originally posted by Astralglide

Originally posted by altairzq

Originally posted by Astralglide

Originally posted by Reanim

 

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Originally posted by vvistovv
Well the game is rated T for Teen.  It is up the parent to decide what may or may not be appropriate for their child.  I love it how some parents point to video games as a scape goat for bad behavior when they are the ones that bought the game in the first place.  And not just video games.  If a fight breaks out in school, they point to the school.  Teach them right and hope for the best.  You cannot put all the blame on any one thing.
If you're so easily offended, maybe you ought to not play mmo's.  General chat can bring out the stupidity in people.

---

 

Most mmo's would not allow names of this type to be used. I doub't you would find character names of this sort on lotro, wow, eq or any other main stream mmo.

Do you actually think this would be okay with any parent?

The fact that you are defending this kind of behavior shows a disturbing desensitivity. This is plain sick. I guess ethnic slurs would be okay too huh? Or perhaps names that degrade woman.

Where does it stop and when did sick and twisted become okay?

Reanim

So, we should start censoring people? And since when are unoffensive names not allowed on mainstream mmo's? On my server (WoW) there's a guy named DuckButter (gay creampie reference) and a slew of names referring to sexual and some may even be considered racist. People have the right to be offensive, that is the downside to free speach. You have the right to put those people on your ignore lists. Calling someone "sick and twisted" because they think that people should be allowed to name their toons how they please. You can't sue Aion over toon names, and I wonder what kind of sick and twisted world we live in where people want to take away others rights because they find something distatseful

 

Sick and twisted world where people want to take away others rights to name themselves "pedophile"???

You must be insane, dumb or one of them.

Yes. "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances." And how is calling me insane, dumb, or a pedophile (using the spirit of your words) not offensive? How Can you really form an argument about abusive language while at the same time using abusive language?

 

 

Lucky for him that the ULA (here and in Aion) makes that little paragraph that you pulled moot......Unless you feel that an American right is universal to anything else known to man..

 

Limits are set for a reason, as I explained before. Waving a piece of paper in someone's face to pacify their stance on something deemed inappropriate while under the rules set forth by another person's creation is pointless.

Well, if those names go against Aion's EULA, then they need to enforce that, seeing as how an EULA is a contract. Also, if the game is being played by Americans in America (or in most of Europe which has similar freedoms) then they are required to follow the laws of this country. If they include naming rules in their EULA (I have not read it), then they need to enforce those naming rules. However, "molest" is synonomous with harassment and "Pedophile" is Latin. If the game's mods are foreign, they might not be familiar with the connotations that those names have in America. If you are offended by it, you should report it to the moderators. Calling me names will not help your case. Oh and, I read your signature, btw:

"Small minds talk about people, average minds talk about events, great minds talk about ideas."

 

Maybe you should choose a new slogan.  Just a suggestion :)

 

I believe you are referring to Altairzq's remarks as to your name calling issue.....yes yes I know it can get confusing using so many quoted responses.

On the other hand I simply stated that the ULA for Aion dictates what is deemed acceptable by NCSoft, NOT the Bill of Rights. here is the exact rule:

(e) Character Name. In order to use the Service, you must create a character and choose a name for your character to identify your character to other Members (your "Character Name"). You may not select as your Character Name the name of another person, or a name which violates any third party's trademark right, copyright, or other proprietary right, or which may mislead other players to believe you to be an employee of NC Interactive, or which NC Interactive deems at its sole discretion to be vulgar or otherwise offensive. NC Interactive reserves the right, in its sole discretion, to (1) delete or alter any Character Name or (2) terminate any license granted herein, for any reason whatsoever, including, without limitation, any suspected or actual infringement of any trademark or trade name right, copyright, or other proprietary right.

Taken from here.

Also to get a specific answer to what is deemed vulgar or offensive you have to look at Aion's rules of conduct:

You may not use sexually explicit, harmful, threatening, abusive, defamatory, obscene, hateful, racially or ethnically offensive language.

Taken from here.

So as I stated before, your ability to throw around what the Bill of Rights is pointless in this topic as we are being policed in someone's backyard. And If I don't like what you are saying in my backyard....sure....I can't stop you....but I sure as hell can stop you from saying it in my backyard. And that's the just of what I'm trying to get at.

See I don't have to resort to name calling to get my point across, I hear enough of that in my personal life.

I could be wrong but if I remember correctly, freedom of speech does not work on private property, which is what Aion is.

Originally posted by Astralglide
I can agree, but why worry about someone named "Sir Loves2spooge" or "Ididyourmomlastnight" or whatever. If you see someone with a name that offends you, add him to your ignore list, report the name, and if that is allowable- GO PLAY ANOTHER GAME!

In case you have forgoten, we are talking about names "pedophile" and "molester". The guys using those names have to GO PLAY ANOTHER GAME

It's a crazy world...

Better to stand on the bridge watching a toddler drown in the river, rather than trying to save him/her.

Of course, that is if you understand the risk involved in being a good-semaritan...