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Fallen Earth  » Bad graphics? I don't think so...

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Adelbert

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10/26/09 8:11:14 PM#1

To anyone saying Fallen Earth has bad graphics, either you have just seen some gameplay on youtube or you have an old PC. Fallen Earth definetly looks great on max settings.

Here are some screenshots I took today, hope you like em ;)

Krilster

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10/26/09 8:16:50 PM#2

Forcing x16 AA makes this game even sexier. Unfortunately my GPU overheats like crazy if  it's forced that high, lol. x2 is good enough.

I do wish I could run higher than 30 fps in busy towns though. (At all the highest settings with forced 2x AA)

xanphia

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10/26/09 8:22:05 PM#3

Looking real solid. Can't wait to run it on my new computer when I get home.

xanphia

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10/26/09 8:26:20 PM#4

*accident*

Benjola

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10/26/09 8:41:56 PM#5

The enviroment and the landscape graphics are more then satisfactory.

They are not as important as character gpx and animations though (this is something NCSoft did very well with Aion, pretty much only good thing I can say about Aion lol, simple landscapes but very detailed character gpx).

Now, at first, if you come from games like AoC character graphics might look a bit sub par but they grow on you  fast and after few days they look very good.

It"s a strange phenomenon that happens to me in every MMO.

For example I played Vanguard after AoC and at first chars in VG looked odd compared to AoC, after few days char and running animations looked very natural, when i got back to AoC those chars looked odd again for few days heh.

I mean... AoC goes as the game with best graphics and char animations by far and yet they looked odd to me for awhile after playing other game for a month or so.

The point is.. gameplay always comes first gpx are something you get used to after few days.

 

HOWEVER, there is no excuse for the melee combat animations in FE :).

They looked silly the first day, they still look silly and will  look silly after a year, unless they get some much needed love because seriously.. they dont belong in MMOs of today.

What is very strange to me is that FE has the biggest number of emotes and dance animations I've ever seen in a game and they look awesome and the chars move and dance very naturaly and believable.

So how is it that they can make awesome breakdancing but melee combat sucks donkey balls?

I dont get it lol.

It's the only complaint I have about FE and I hope Icarus does something about it....soon.

 

ste2000

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10/26/09 8:46:34 PM#6

Graphically speaking, I really don't like how the character looks................kinda Second Life feel

The world looks great though, but they really should update the characters, they do not look like as if they belong to the workld they live in

daylight01

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10/26/09 9:02:06 PM#7

 Well just to be fair,

As much as I love FE some of the graphic drawing is quite bad,what these screen shots do not show is the drawing of shrubs and sometimes even buildings right before your eye's...even my wife(who admits she knows nothing about game's and care's even less)said it was funny how the game keeps "drawing in front of you.

Like I said I totally love this game and can not get enough but just to be fair I thought this should be mentioned to a graphic thread.

If someone had came up to me in 1980 when I was on my Atari 2600 and said we will be playing games with thousands of people at the same time.I guess my response would have been,"but I only have 2 joysticks"

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/235780/page/8

Goob

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10/26/09 9:05:42 PM#8

I really dont like the character animations and movement/control aspect of the game. Feels and looks clunky. Otherwise, everything is awesome.

Krilster

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10/26/09 9:10:25 PM#9
Originally posted by daylight01 

As much as I love FE some of the graphic drawing is quite bad,what these screen shots do not show is the drawing of shrubs and sometimes even buildings right before your eye's...even my wife(who admits she knows nothing about game's and care's even less)said it was funny how the game keeps "drawing in front of you.

 

I'll admit this is one of the things that really bugs me as well. Running along on a horse while shrubs constantly spawn in front of you kills the immersion slightly, I really hope they do something about it soon.

neonwire

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10/26/09 9:19:36 PM#10
Originally posted by Benjola

The enviroment and the landscape graphics are more then satisfactory.

They are not as important as character gpx and animations though (this is something NCSoft did very well with Aion, pretty much only good thing I can say about Aion lol, simple landscapes but very detailed character gpx).

Now, at first, if you come from games like AoC character graphics might look a bit sub par but they grow on you  fast and after few days they look very good.

It"s a strange phenomenon that happens to me in every MMO.

For example I played Vanguard after AoC and at first chars in VG looked odd compared to AoC, after few days char and running animations looked very natural, when i got back to AoC those chars looked odd again for few days heh.

I mean... AoC goes as the game with best graphics and char animations by far and yet they looked odd to me for awhile after playing other game for a month or so.

The point is.. gameplay always comes first gpx are something you get used to after few days.

 

HOWEVER, there is no excuse for the melee combat animations in FE :).

They looked silly the first day, they still look silly and will  look silly after a year, unless they get some much needed love because seriously.. they dont belong in MMOs of today.

What is very strange to me is that FE has the biggest number of emotes and dance animations I've ever seen in a game and they look awesome and the chars move and dance very naturaly and believable.

So how is it that they can make awesome breakdancing but melee combat sucks donkey balls?

I dont get it lol.

It's the only complaint I have about FE and I hope Icarus does something about it....soon.

 


 

I could never get adjusted to Vanguards avatars. I thought they were quite possibly the ugliest models I have seen in an mmo. Weird constipated manikins made by people who have no idea at all about human anatomy.....some of which had animal heads stuck on top as a lame excuse for animal/human hybrid races. Eeeekk!!! Strangely a lot of the monsters in that game looked great.

You do have a really good point about the Fallen Earth combat animations. The dance emotes look fantastic. The other emotes look good too. Harvesting looks fine. Getting on and off your horse looks great. In fact all the horse animations look good. Most of the monster mobs look good too. Humanoid attack animations? Total shit lol

Wizardry

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10/26/09 9:34:59 PM#11
Originally posted by daylight01

 Well just to be fair,

As much as I love FE some of the graphic drawing is quite bad,what these screen shots do not show is the drawing of shrubs and sometimes even buildings right before your eye's...even my wife(who admits she knows nothing about game's and care's even less)said it was funny how the game keeps "drawing in front of you.

Like I said I totally love this game and can not get enough but just to be fair I thought this should be mentioned to a graphic thread.

 

Yes i pointed this out,even at max draw distance ,it is still very short.This is what console games were known for very linear halls and short draw distances.The sad part is that even on powerful PC's we are not able to go much further than crappy consoles,it shows coding effort in all games needs to be better.There is actually tricks to drawing things and how they are drawn,i wish i had saved the videos to  show how it is done.Basically one trick is to have things that would normally be hidden to the players view ,not get drawn,that way it never looks like things are rendered too closely,because you are limiting how much gets drawn but you won't know it because you wouldn't see those objects anyhow.

I think we are all getting a little too picky though,i have already mentioned before the graphics are quite acceptable and performance is pretty darn good,so i have no problems with that aspect of the game.

MY problem and it is really only 2 big ones.

Crafting is done too much like EVE,point click and let time go by,no interaction,no chance to fail,very unrewarding and not satisfying.Being that this is maybe the biggest part of the game,to design it so half ass does not please me very well.

Exploration gets boring real fast,when the only things you interact with is nodes clearly shown on the mini map.It makes it unrealistic,how do you have these nodes on your map?infrared technology? lol.I do not mind having a   map just like in our real world ,you need it,but no map i ever used had any nodes or mobs marked on it lol.I know most games mark mobs why i do not know,but nodes,i don't like.Ever play Ultima online years ago?i could come across some farm shed ,find a rake pick it up and use it,you will not get that type of interaction in FE.You see a car in FE it is just a static dead mesh with a pasted texture on it.I have seen these types of graphics in console games for years and i tire of it.The same reason i can't stand WOW,graphics mean a ton to me,it gives the game life and immersion.

I am not talking quality of the textures/shaders/lighting/effects/particles/shadows ,i am talking detail of the graphics and how objects are implemented.I could have even accepted a very low keyed approach to objects in the world,but it was done all the way cheap.You can say i expect far too much from this game,more so than what most games deliver,but this is what i expect if i am going to be playing a post Apoc game.I have certain expectations from Fantasy games from Space games,it all depends on the theme.

CoffeeGrunt

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10/26/09 9:38:09 PM#12

nope the graphics aint too bad ,tbh the sys reqs for it are .

That wasnt what made me quitt the game .....its was feeling the game had  so many things that were broken (specialy pvp, wich is the core of the "ENDGMAE") and the once  so caring GM's got so damn arrogant and blind bout  the ingame issues. endlessly repeatable AP quests , clans having their whole tactics build up on  gamemechanic failures (call it in short total unbalance), OP tutorial weapons brought into the game ..ect ect  ect . it seems the game needs  like 6 month to have a stable runnin , and another 3 month  to balance the pvp shit out . But well id have known since the factionwheeling that somithings not right with the whole system there . Anyway the time i had ingame was good ..good pll ..good community , but  i lost faith in the devs /gms  and i only hope they wrong me in the future

daylight01

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10/26/09 9:49:16 PM#13
Originally posted by Wizardry

Crafting is done too much like EVE,point click and let time go by,no interaction,no chance to fail,very unrewarding and not satisfying.Being that this is maybe the biggest part of the game,to design it so half ass does not please me very well.

 

I have to ask mate ..How hard core do you want it?

I mean some items take say 8 hours to craft and you want a fail chance on top of that?

In real life I work with metal and if I said " yep give me 6 hours it will be ready" and the boss came back and I simply said "sorry it failed you lost your items and the time spent on me to make said items"..damn I would be out of a job,you learn the skill so you can MAKE the item.

The time spent and items needed is more than enough to sort out the crafters and the would be crafters.

Remember it is still supposed to be fun.

If someone had came up to me in 1980 when I was on my Atari 2600 and said we will be playing games with thousands of people at the same time.I guess my response would have been,"but I only have 2 joysticks"

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/235780/page/8

majinant

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10/26/09 9:50:39 PM#14

This is the one thing that annoys me with the graphics. I mean, how lazy could you get?

The Scrubs!


Nizur

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10/26/09 11:28:35 PM#15


Originally posted by majinant
This is the one thing that annoys me with the graphics. I mean, how lazy could you get?
The Scrubs!

Probably did that because there's 3349583495873498 of them everywhere you look. If they were any more detailed, everyone's comps would blow up.

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majinant

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10/26/09 11:54:57 PM#16
Originally posted by Nizur

 


Originally posted by majinant
This is the one thing that annoys me with the graphics. I mean, how lazy could you get?
The Scrubs!

 

Probably did that because there's 3349583495873498 of them everywhere you look. If they were any more detailed, everyone's comps would blow up.

 

Not really. There are only a few different bushes. Not like it needs to actually load thousands.

 

Plus, many other games I play have detailed scrubs without the comp exploding!

Konner920

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10/26/09 11:59:41 PM#17

I never thought it had bad graphics.  I wouldnt care if it used 8 bit graphics I dont care for  grpahics, I just care if the games fun.

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Nizur

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10/27/09 12:04:55 AM#18


Originally posted by majinant

Originally posted by Nizur


Originally posted by majinant
This is the one thing that annoys me with the graphics. I mean, how lazy could you get?
The Scrubs!


 
Probably did that because there's 3349583495873498 of them everywhere you look. If they were any more detailed, everyone's comps would blow up.


 
Not really. There are only a few different bushes. Not like it needs to actually load thousands.
 
Plus, many other games I play have detailed scrubs without the comp exploding!

I was half-joking. Sure there are only a few different kinds, but there are hundreds if not thousands of them everywhere. If FE had that many detailed scrubs, it would certainly slow performance down.

Did the games you play with detailed scrubs have as many as FE? Out of the ones I've tried, none of them had as many.

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HiGHPLAiNS

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10/27/09 8:40:03 AM#19

Hey OP, nice pics!

However my system is showing its age and when my current system explodes, I will treat myself to a new rig. So for now as long as I can play my current mmo titles, I am happy.

Again great pics, you wonder since Icarus developed the engine, what will the graphics and animation will be like a year down the road.

I came from a Anarchy Online, Eve and SWG background of gaming and have seen grfx updates to all 3 of these. So I can't wait what the future holds for FE on its content and graphics update are.

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10/27/09 9:12:54 AM#20
Originally posted by majinant
Originally posted by Nizur

 


Originally posted by majinant
This is the one thing that annoys me with the graphics. I mean, how lazy could you get?
The Scrubs!

 

Probably did that because there's 3349583495873498 of them everywhere you look. If they were any more detailed, everyone's comps would blow up.

 

Not really. There are only a few different bushes. Not like it needs to actually load thousands.

 

Plus, many other games I play have detailed scrubs without the comp exploding!

Yea they are using the alpha placeholders on the scrubs.  I heard they are in the mix for a graphic upgrade, but think they are going through and upgrading the buildings and possibly characters now and in the near future.
 

Actually I think they are done with the buildings and finishing up grasses, still scrubs look to be at the bottom of the list.

Benjola

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10/27/09 12:41:43 PM#21

The most important thing is that devs listen to their player base and every update and move they make is very logical and makes sense.

You get the feeling that they are gamers themselves and know exactly wtf they are doing, which I cant say about every other game company, especially the big ones.

So I already have a big confidence in this small indy company and this game will only go up, these guys atm are schooling every single game developer as to how you run a MMO properly.

I see many similarities between Icarus and CCP (EVE developers) and that's a good thing.

 

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10/27/09 12:49:09 PM#22
Originally posted by HiGHPLAiNS

Hey OP, nice pics!

However my system is showing its age and when my current system explodes, I will treat myself to a new rig. So for now as long as I can play my current mmo titles, I am happy.

Again great pics, you wonder since Icarus developed the engine, what will the graphics and animation will be like a year down the road.

I came from a Anarchy Online, Eve and SWG background of gaming and have seen grfx updates to all 3 of these. So I can't wait what the future holds for FE on its content and graphics update are.

 

Well said, I couldn't agree more.

FE is truly a gem amongst a sea of coal.

Robsolf

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10/27/09 1:10:34 PM#23
Originally posted by majinant

This is the one thing that annoys me with the graphics. I mean, how lazy could you get?

The Scrubs!

/agree

The overall generic look of them combined with them popping into existence about 15 feet away... plus the horrible animations are the main graphic issues of the game.  That's why many people were impressed by the official screenshots, then became not so impressed once they started moving around in the game world.

Aside from that, the graphics look pretty good, particularly for a MMO from an independent company.

 

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10/27/09 1:28:52 PM#24
Originally posted by Robsolf
Originally posted by majinant

This is the one thing that annoys me with the graphics. I mean, how lazy could you get?

The Scrubs!

/agree

The overall generic look of them combined with them popping into existence about 15 feet away... plus the horrible animations are the main graphic issues of the game.  That's why many people were impressed by the official screenshots, then became not so impressed once they started moving around in the game world.

Aside from that, the graphics look pretty good, particularly for a MMO from an independent company.

 

 

You can increase and decrease the view distance of those items, and in S2 and even high S1 you'll start to notice some changes in scenery, but its pretty spot on with other games of the post apoc genre.

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10/27/09 1:43:26 PM#25
Originally posted by maskedweasel
Originally posted by Robsolf
Originally posted by majinant

This is the one thing that annoys me with the graphics. I mean, how lazy could you get?

The Scrubs!

/agree

The overall generic look of them combined with them popping into existence about 15 feet away... plus the horrible animations are the main graphic issues of the game.  That's why many people were impressed by the official screenshots, then became not so impressed once they started moving around in the game world.

Aside from that, the graphics look pretty good, particularly for a MMO from an independent company.

 

 

You can increase and decrease the view distance of those items, and in S2 and even high S1 you'll start to notice some changes in scenery, but its pretty spot on with other games of the post apoc genre.

 

I played with all settings maxed.

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