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Darkfall 

General Discussion  » I love DFO, I hate AV.

12 posts found
  Izure

Novice Member

Joined: 4/05/09
Posts: 548

 
10/26/09 4:30:14 PM#1

Ya I used to be a fan of DFO as well, I played since early March.

 

And The devs are the downfall of darkfall, and I will give them 1 more expansion to make it right, but if that expansion notes look BS I am not going to resub.

 

Let me tell you why, you may not see hackers but they exist, they radar hack, chaos chest raid underground, teleport to travel/trade, wall hack for mobs(not exploiting walls, HACKING) 5% speed increase.

Also many exploits are still in game.

 

No diversity. Magic is overpowered, everything but PVP is boring, no side sandbox tools to play with, and PVP is boring atm due to all Magic spam fest.

 

Everyone is everyone else, No diversity, no options.

 

Crafting is simple and is done in ABC order, like I said no options, same with mobs, If you try to take a fire elemental, water dmg does not do more then air or earth.

 

Gear is worthless because it is so easy to get, and it does not mean much, Bone set is better then scale atm, cause of magic OP and low magic resists on scale, and half or less the price then scale.

 

Melee is 1 dimenional, you sprint and do figure eights, he who has the best lag wins, or he who have the most vit or mastery wins. ( not what this game was suppose to be about)

 

The grind is not bad, but sieging is tedious and boring and can be very unfair.( i know not supposed to be fair)

 

Archery is the only thing that takes skills and magic takes no skill yet does 2 times the damage.

 

Did I mention melee sucks? Mount combat is good though.

 

No skill cap, no diversity.

Like I said no skill cap = no such thing as support. You can do it all yourself, no tactics, just dps there with a AOE and run here when low.

 

Everyone is a healer/damagedealer/buffer/debuffer/tank blah blah so lame. It is the people who are momma boys who have no family/job  to win this game after it is all said in done. Which is what DFO was suppose to be against again.

Also I just unsubbed 2 weeks ago, so let me know if you guys have

Expansion might help, but DFO is on a thin line of being either sold or terminated, The population is low VERY LOW, on both servers.

I say with no skill cap and a shitty expansion(if it is shitty) then the game will die by January.

  egotrip

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Joined: 12/24/08
Posts: 910

Never fear i am here and if you don't like it kiss my rear

10/26/09 6:58:40 PM#2

Hang in there !

Iiii-iiiiiit's.... me!!! *Hooray*
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  DarthRaiden

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Joined: 11/20/05
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i make art,
till someone dies.

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10/26/09 7:54:14 PM#3

"In the beginning Aventurine created the heaven, the 2 moons, all stars shine on the firmament  and the 5 continents of the earth"  Genesis 1,1

 

How can you love the creation and hate the creator ?

 

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  ghoul31

Novice Member

Joined: 4/21/04
Posts: 1943

10/26/09 8:18:34 PM#4

Another fanboi bites the dust.

 

  wyrdaskolir

Novice Member

Joined: 2/13/09
Posts: 519

10/26/09 11:07:00 PM#5

To the above poster: I wouldn't say that. He is still giving AV another chance, the same way I am. I used to play since March but recently stopped so I am waiting for the expansion also. After trying the closest game to Darkfall (MO), there seems so be no other game as fun as Darkfall. (no this does not break the MO NDA)

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  StrixMaxima

Novice Member

Joined: 2/07/09
Posts: 455

10/27/09 11:10:26 AM#6

I can say that AV done a great job in scaring away several costumers. Not an easy task, in today's market.

  Roin

Apprentice Member

Joined: 10/12/03
Posts: 2483

10/27/09 3:24:24 PM#7

You'll be back.  They always come back. 


In War - Victory.
In Peace - Vigilance.
In Death - Sacrifice.

  Pyrostasis

Advanced Member

Joined: 8/14/04
Posts: 2307

10/27/09 3:32:23 PM#8

AV has consistently done pretty much everything in its power to piss folks off it seems.

Little to no communication about up coming changes...

Little to no communication about drastic events that affect everyone (server transfers)

Hacking is still rampant, I quit at launch, few of my friends hung around, one of them has been using teleport hack to harvest resources since we left... and av has yet to catch him. They have 0 back end logging at all. The only way you will get caught, is if someone reports you... which is completely screwed up.

Macroing is still rampant, while not as effective as it once was with the skill changes, its still more effective than not doing it.

Double charging customers... list goes on and on and on.

Hopefully one day AV will wake the hell up and start trying to keep players instead of pissing them off. Like it or not they could learn a lot from the eve developers. (not talking game mechanics, simply talking dialogue with players).

Fact of the matter is AV doesnt think it needs to communicate with the player base... and its going to be their undoing.

  Izure

Novice Member

Joined: 4/05/09
Posts: 548

 
10/28/09 1:33:43 PM#9

Pretty much the above poster got it right, the list goes on and on.

 

The only thing that made it fairly worth my 15 dollars a month was PVP WAS fun. Not it sucks because you got all IMBA magic.

 

 

  Cik_Asalin

Novice Member

Joined: 8/29/04
Posts: 3091

10/29/09 11:02:41 AM#10
Originally posted by Izure

Ya I used to be a fan of DFO as well, I played since early March.

 

And The devs are the downfall of darkfall, and I will give them 1 more expansion to make it right, but if that expansion notes look BS I am not going to resub.

To me its stupid to even think or accept that even the first huge patch for the NA opening was either a launch or expansion. . .they were bug fixes and content inclusions that were hyped by AV for several years, but AV tripped over themselves just trying to get the fundamentals right, so much was left on the cutting room floor until that point.

 

I will continuously be amazed at how forgiving and open american people are to being abused by "Hope" (lol) and the "thought" of something they want to be emotionally attached to, but is never delivered.

 

DF is just one of those experiments where it was time to walk away from months ago.

  asdar

Novice Member

Joined: 11/07/05
Posts: 327

10/30/09 12:53:17 PM#11

I think you all are wrong in every thing you post, except that AV has terrible customer communication.

Most battles, and I'd guess 90%+ are a tiny bit of magic, and mostly melee and archery. The best PvP'r in our clan, and one of the best on the NA-1 server almost totally melee/archery when they fight.

Don't get me wrong, there is an imbalance. That imbalance is that level 100(max) elemental AE skills are powerful, and if you have multiple schools maxed out, then melee and archery won't take place. That almost only happens in sieges, or bigger city attacks. In close up, out in the wild battles it's very rare to see more than one school AE, and even if you do, you can just move the battle to a location where AE's can be avoided. In a siege or city you have to be stationary.

I don't even have a single school to 100, or have Witches Brew and I'm out there killing people in fair fights. I never macro'd, don't even know how.

Diversity is a sore spot with me. People say it, but what they mean is that they want to enforce classes again. This game has real diversity, which only comes from having a choice. The best PvP players on the NA-1 server play different styles. Some want melee heavy, some want archery, some want magic. Every player I play with plays a little bit differently. Diversity does not equal healer/mage/fighter.

Skill caps would force a min/max and we'd see a shrinking of play styles, not an increase in range.

Asdar

  gotha

Apprentice Member

Joined: 10/13/05
Posts: 808

10/30/09 1:31:10 PM#12

Was gonna flame this post.  But most of the stuff is stop on.  AV has to their credit though covered tons of problems and this games does fix itself overtime,  Given the fact its not even a year a old they have made incredible progress. 

 

Darkfall is not a game to give up on.  it may be a game to cancel for a few months.  but it will produce.

 

one of the odd things about the df team.  Especially since it is a pretty unconventional game.  Is their total lack of ability to l implemented creative game mechanics well done.  They are good however at taking a revolutionary big picture and over time working it into an actual reality.

 

They are also above and beyond committed bastards.   Almost all indy dev teams can boast the overtime they put in.   Aventurine however puts even those to shame.  This game has survived its insanely long development due mostly to devs commitment .  They all even tasos deserve credit for that.