I used to believe that the addition of Villains would transform the game, however in truth there is so little customisation of play style in CO and so little individuality in the world experience I don't think cryptic have any ability to make them function in any meaningful way. CO is an anthology of mmo staple's, arbitrarily and randomly thrown together, the lack of conviction and priority given to the theme ensures there's no unifying glue and no reason to commit or care about anything outside the avatar creator, its a game that is less than the sum of its parts by design.

Of course the awesomeness of the avatar creator will ensure CO always has its supprters, like most every other franchise so I wouldn't say its on a death bed by any stretch. But sadly the consequence of it's arrival and apparent willingness to exist without attempting to do anything new or imaginitive either with theme or game mechanics means it wont convert anyone new to either the mmo game or to the comicbook world.....as it stands all that seems inevitable is for the the exact same playerbase to be divided between 2 games - to neither's overall benefit.

Originally posted by templarx

Originally posted by Axeion

Originally posted by ghost047

Originally posted by Axeion

Looks like you haven't read my post, as I said, the only difference is the starting area, in WAR, if you want to lvl properly you still have to do the 3 factions zone in every tier, in WoW, at lvl 8 you have the first instance and by lvl 15, Hordes and Alliance share the same map and quest line.

 

That's not quite true. Warhammer is divided into Order vs. Destruction. If you play Order you will have a 100% different quest line to follow all the way to the end, likewise if you're Destruction [so you already got content x 2 ] . CO have no split at all.

Even in WoW, after lvl 15, you might be in the same ZONE, but the quests sure ain't the same. Hell you don't even get your quests from the same NPC or even in the same CITY (Oggrimar vs. Stormwind etc etc). I'm talking pre-BC , even Burning Crusade zones have their Alliance/Horde towns at certain places [Hellfire specifically] . So at the very least switching factions should provide you with quite a different questing experience....

Now in CO....no faction split, quest lines are identical, towns/hubs are identical. To top it off, they have the repeatable mission thing which is like  "WoW-Dailys" , and there really ain't alot of variety in those. I might as well fire up Diablo 2 and do the same map over and over , except have it randomize the mob/reward placing....

 

 

see this is why i dont like the multi colored replies in some one elses coments when its edited down it can make it look like some one else said a coment . the green parts was not mine for the record.thats all ghost047.
 

i played warhammer an know you can level up an dont have to follow the exact quest path..just leveling up a dark elf will be difrent than a goblin.dwarf difrent than a human.And you can level up a human difrent paths than another human.my knight of the blazing sun didnt take the same quests my priest or witch hunter took or bright wizard.

co you get two areas after tutorial desert or canada.an you still end up bouncing back an forth tween them an the city to level  if you dont want to grind mobs.an i still ended up grinding mobs some .

Originally posted by erickdefores

Ok!  What the Hell is Xfire?!  Been playing MMorpg's since UO and I play CO now and yet I have no idea what xfire is.  I wonder how many others out there dont know what it is, therefore not being part of the statistic you are attempting to prove!

www.xfire.com will take you to the xfire site.  Xfire is a tool that reports game usage.  It also give in came chat and voice that works while in game with players in any game.  Think of it like Aim for gamers with ventrilo thrown in.   It also does in game screen shots, videos, and even lets you stream your game while you play it so people can watch while you play.  It does a few other cool things as well.

Originally posted by dougmysticey

Originally posted by erickdefores

Ok!  What the Hell is Xfire?!  Been playing MMorpg's since UO and I play CO now and yet I have no idea what xfire is.  I wonder how many others out there dont know what it is, therefore not being part of the statistic you are attempting to prove!

 

It does not matter. The real deal is that X-fire DOES NOT WORK now with CO. It won't log in with the game, you cannot take screen shots or vids. COULD THAT BE THE REASON that X-fire numbers are declining? Does it always have to be a "sky is falling" doom and gloom, the game sucks, its a WOW clone issue?

OK, Rant over...

I was using X-fire.There was a patch a month or so ago and every since then it will not work with CO.  The bottom line for me is that whenever I am in game the population seems pretty darn healthy and X-fire numbers have less relevence with CO than normal due to the fact it is broke.

To erickdefores- Xfire is an app that runs along side your game to log how many hours you spend in game, log how many X-fire users are playing, and for taking screen shots and vids that are already compressed for the web and sharing them on the X-fire web site.

You might try reinstalling it.  I think if it stopped working for a large chunk of people you would see a large drop in usage.  What we see isn't any single drop but a long sustained slide in the xfire numbers for CO.  Really only leading to one conclusion....  The game is bleeding subs.

It does look like it is slowing down some.  I'm gonna bet that it levels out before it drops below CoH in ranking.

Originally posted by Yamota

Down to #115 and this is during a weekend... weee

No really, sad to see this game slide down to the ghetto zone of MMORPGs. The combat was really fun and the open powersystem was innovative but the game lacks some serious content. I am playing Aion now and during the four days that I have played it I have seen more content than the whole of CO.

Aion combat though is totally inferior to COs but combat is not enough...

So funny, on saturday there was logging issue, so most people didn't play. It's always nice to see people using number but doesn't know anything. Today it's back to #104, but it doesn't matter, because X-Fire is totaly pointless. i know about this program just because people like you talk about it in the forum. CO is going down because if you look at Facebook CO, there is only 14 055 admirers, that must be the subs number.

Originally posted by Axeion

see this is why i dont like the multi colored replies in some one elses coments when its edited down it can make it look like some one else said a coment . the green parts was not mine for the record.thats all ghost047.
 

i played warhammer an know you can level up an dont have to follow the exact quest path..just leveling up a dark elf will be difrent than a goblin.dwarf difrent than a human.And you can level up a human difrent paths than another human.my knight of the blazing sun didnt take the same quests my priest or witch hunter took or bright wizard.

co you get two areas after tutorial desert or canada.an you still end up bouncing back an forth tween them an the city to level  if you dont want to grind mobs.an i still ended up grinding mobs some .

Go check these 2 threads, they are within the first month of release. Back then I was trying, again, to explain to people how to level, but since WoW, people need everthing handed to them, as soon as people have to work for something they cry content gap. When you started WAR, it was easy to lvl, PQ, Scenarios, Quests and RvR, but as soon as you reroll, there was a lack of player which made it impossible to lvl just from quest you you had to do all tier maps.

www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/2374701#2374701

www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/2350463#2350463

And for WoW, again at launch, there was not that many quests as today. Yes you can change faction, but many people like me never change faction, especialy if you play on a PvP server you are not aloud to.

Go to this website and enter you toon info and check how many missions you missed and for how many xp, you can be surprise of all the content you miss because you were too lazy or too on a hurry to get to 40.

www.crimecomputer20.com/

All MMOs slide down after the first month. Then they pick up or go down after that. Cryptic made a good solid game, yes there is a lack of content, but they are adding as we speak. Come Oct 27th there will be more for you to do, then plenty more in months to come.

I would rather have a playable game with lack of content than a unplayable game with loads of content.
 

Originally posted by Gkarn

All MMOs slide down after the first month. Then they pick up or go down after that. Cryptic made a good solid game, yes there is a lack of content, but they are adding as we speak. Come Oct 27th there will be more for you to do, then plenty more in months to come.

I would rather have a playable game with lack of content than a unplayable game with loads of content.
 

Agreed, this thread is a carbon copy of numerous threads posted in the months following AoC, WAR, and the ones starting to crop up about Aion. We will see the same thing for every new MMOG that isn't destined for WoW's level of fame. These games like AoC, WAR, and CO may not be WoW killers, but they have high enough sub numbers to be profitable. Personally, my tastes in games are almost never related to how popular they are. If you judge a game solely on its popularity then you're a sheep, a follower, a tool, and a moron.

The architecture of CO makes it handle these swings gracefully. The server can scale, players can still be in zones full of other superheroes. The visible effects of a smaller player base are kept to a minimum. Its much better than dead servers followed inevitably by server closures.

Unless you insist that the game you play be WoW or a WoW-killer then I don't understand why anyone would be concerned about all this unless they had an axe to grind. Since I keep seeing the same names bringing this up, I would guess that is the case. They have an axe to grind. Some of these forum dwellers like to see the conflict, like to troll for negative responses, or maybe they have something personal against CO. Not playing isn't good enough I guess.

Besides, have any of you ever seen the X-Fire forums? Its a bunch of obviously immature whining little babies. Its not exactly the ideal demographic for CO. Those folks are much better suited to WoW and Aion.

Originally posted by Gkarn

All MMOs slide down after the first month. Then they pick up or go down after that. Cryptic made a good solid game, yes there is a lack of content, but they are adding as we speak. Come Oct 27th there will be more for you to do, then plenty more in months to come.

I would rather have a playable game with lack of content than a unplayable game with loads of content.
 

I would like to have a playable game with loads of content, which CO does not offer.  The stuff that is added on Oct 27th is an event (except for the PvP part which will stay), so the content added is only for a short time.  The CO devs need to get their heads on straight, I'd say 75% of the 6 month sub holders will not renew. (that figure is just from friends and people in my sg, which never login anymore)  They need to fix the game instead of adding crap to the CStore and nerfing every patch.

Originally posted by Yamota

As for lack of content. Aion so far seems to have a huge amount of content and I actually prefer grind over easy-mode MMORPGs.

Go read this thread, it's a copy of this one here, some people say there is not enough content/quests so they have to grind and other says there is enough but people are blind, It's probably the blind thing. But having payed Aion, I know there is a lot of mindless grinding to do in the game.

www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/3177478#3177478

Originally posted by ghost047

Originally posted by Yamota

As for lack of content. Aion so far seems to have a huge amount of content and I actually prefer grind over easy-mode MMORPGs.

Go read this thread, it's a copy of this one here, some people say there is not enough content/quests so they have to grind and other says there is enough but people are blind, It's probably the blind thing. But having payed Aion, I know there is a lot of mindless grinding to do in the game.

www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/3177478#3177478

For sure there is grind in that game but for me quests is not the only thing that counts as content. The whole Abyss zone is one huge bunch of PvE and PvP content. The stigma system is also content and since consumables is much more useful in Aion than in CO (which dont have any consumables that I can think of, which you can carry and use) then crafting is a much more worthwhile thing to do in Aion and crafting is content.

For me content is simply the things you can do in a game and CO lacks alot in this department. PvP is limited, end-game content is limited, raid content is limited/non existant. There is simply not much to DO after you hit level 35ish. And since it takes relatively short while to hit level 35 the game dies quickly for most people, who are not altaholics.

Originally posted by Aganazer

Originally posted by Gkarn

All MMOs slide down after the first month. Then they pick up or go down after that. Cryptic made a good solid game, yes there is a lack of content, but they are adding as we speak. Come Oct 27th there will be more for you to do, then plenty more in months to come.

I would rather have a playable game with lack of content than a unplayable game with loads of content.
 

 

Agreed, this thread is a carbon copy of numerous threads posted in the months following AoC, WAR, and the ones starting to crop up about Aion. We will see the same thing for every new MMOG that isn't destined for WoW's level of fame. These games like AoC, WAR, and CO may not be WoW killers, but they have high enough sub numbers to be profitable. Personally, my tastes in games are almost never related to how popular they are. If you judge a game solely on its popularity then you're a sheep, a follower, a tool, and a moron.

The architecture of CO makes it handle these swings gracefully. The server can scale, players can still be in zones full of other superheroes. The visible effects of a smaller player base are kept to a minimum. Its much better than dead servers followed inevitably by server closures.

Unless you insist that the game you play be WoW or a WoW-killer then I don't understand why anyone would be concerned about all this unless they had an axe to grind. Since I keep seeing the same names bringing this up, I would guess that is the case. They have an axe to grind. Some of these forum dwellers like to see the conflict, like to troll for negative responses, or maybe they have something personal against CO. Not playing isn't good enough I guess.

Besides, have any of you ever seen the X-Fire forums? Its a bunch of obviously immature whining little babies. Its not exactly the ideal demographic for CO. Those folks are much better suited to WoW and Aion.

True in principle that the downward slide is same as most other MMORPGs. However if you look more carefully neither WAR, AoC nor Aion dropped almost 70% after the first month. Aion dropped about 30% and which is about the same as WAR and AOC.

So by posting this thread is not about grinding axes with anything but rather that suggest that this game LACKS CONTENT.

Originally posted by Yamota

Down to #115 and this is during a weekend... weee

No really, sad to see this game slide down to the ghetto zone of MMORPGs. The combat was really fun and the open powersystem was innovative but the game lacks some serious content. I am playing Aion now and during the four days that I have played it I have seen more content than the whole of CO.

Aion combat though is totally inferior to COs but combat is not enough...

LOL, you do realise the server's been down for most of the weekend due some really bad crashes?  #115, when its been down for a conciderable amount of time is pretty good.

Aion's being hit way harder percentage wise on time played and no way does Aion have more content than CO.  There's next to no content post level 20 in Aion, other than grinding and ganking.  CO has "gaps" in PvE content yes, but nowhere near as vast.

Originally posted by Yamota

Originally posted by ghost047

Originally posted by Yamota

As for lack of content. Aion so far seems to have a huge amount of content and I actually prefer grind over easy-mode MMORPGs.

Go read this thread, it's a copy of this one here, some people say there is not enough content/quests so they have to grind and other says there is enough but people are blind, It's probably the blind thing. But having payed Aion, I know there is a lot of mindless grinding to do in the game.

www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/3177478#3177478

 

For sure there is grind in that game but for me quests is not the only thing that counts as content. The whole Abyss zone is one huge bunch of PvE and PvP content. The stigma system is also content and since consumables is much more useful in Aion than in CO (which dont have any consumables that I can think of, which you can carry and use) then crafting is a much more worthwhile thing to do in Aion and crafting is content.

For me content is simply the things you can do in a game and CO lacks alot in this department. PvP is limited, end-game content is limited, raid content is limited/non existant. There is simply not much to DO after you hit level 35ish. And since it takes relatively short while to hit level 35 the game dies quickly for most people, who are not altaholics.

Ok! reading this, I feel like you didn't play the game at all or didn't bother with anything. If for you missions is not the only content in a game, you should've love CO, because there is so much stuff to do outside of missions, consumables, you can craft healing, force field, power replacer and even craft pet, I don't get where you got the "dont have any consumables that I can think of, which you can carry and use". Yes the PvP is limited, but only in size, you have all kinds of PvP, 5 vs 5 arena, FFA 1 vs 20, Apocalypse 5 vs 5 with PvE and objective, I give you that, these is no open PvP yet, but there will be in the Bloodmoon event and they said after the event they might work on getting something like that permanent. You got all the costume unlock you can get by killing 5000 mobs, yo have the Unity Dailies for Unity Merits to get good gear (some days they are bugs, which is a pain in the ass). The nemesis system which is awsome, it also give content and a new missions every 6 hours. As for the raid, there is 2 ingame, Andrith and Mangalore, they give you Unity Merits for completing them.

I don't think there is a lack of content in the game, but like the Dev said, there is just enough to make it to the end so they are working on adding more. But like I said, people want everything handed to get without looking for it.

forums.champions-online.com/showthread.php

forums.champions-online.com/showthread.php

Those 2 threads are response from the dev explaining what is hapening with the Xp nerf and the content gap, as you can see, they read the forums and they answer quickly, but they will not answer on every thread about the same thing.

Originally posted by ghost047

Originally posted by Axeion

see this is why i dont like the multi colored replies in some one elses coments when its edited down it can make it look like some one else said a coment . the green parts was not mine for the record.thats all ghost047.
 

i played warhammer an know you can level up an dont have to follow the exact quest path..just leveling up a dark elf will be difrent than a goblin.dwarf difrent than a human.And you can level up a human difrent paths than another human.my knight of the blazing sun didnt take the same quests my priest or witch hunter took or bright wizard.

co you get two areas after tutorial desert or canada.an you still end up bouncing back an forth tween them an the city to level  if you dont want to grind mobs.an i still ended up grinding mobs some .

Go check these 2 threads, they are within the first month of release. Back then I was trying, again, to explain to people how to level, but since WoW, people need everthing handed to them, as soon as people have to work for something they cry content gap. When you started WAR, it was easy to lvl, PQ, Scenarios, Quests and RvR, but as soon as you reroll, there was a lack of player which made it impossible to lvl just from quest you you had to do all tier maps.

www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/2374701#2374701

www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/2350463#2350463

And for WoW, again at launch, there was not that many quests as today. Yes you can change faction, but many people like me never change faction, especialy if you play on a PvP server you are not aloud to.

Go to this website and enter you toon info and check how many missions you missed and for how many xp, you can be surprise of all the content you miss because you were too lazy or too on a hurry to get to 40.

www.crimecomputer20.com/

1st i play everquest  still.game for years didnt hand you a easy mode in the game at all.dont try a paint me in that" i want a easy mode game." co is not a hard game at all.

2nd the crimecomputer site tho neet will show alot of misison you leveled past like if you went to desert an stayed their till say 11 you get all the sub 11 quests in caanda listed.plus it shows some mission i completed as not . but it does show the mision handed to you a citizens or the hidden missions as some on their forums call it.

its not just content . or the lack of story.its not just bugs in power.its not the scary mouths the women in co have when talking,nor the grafic bugs.not just the bugged ui atuo attack or no button work bugs.it not just that their servers crashed alot saterday an sunday.nor is it just doing what they said to fix it caused people to lag horribly.its not just their forums are lock an delet fests.not just that super jump can kill you.nor is it just their more conserned with the c store it seems than fixing their game.

its a combination of all of it.sure their forums are wildy snarky ,loaded with fanboy koolaid drinkers who spouted how cool x fire was when they was rising . now claim it dont matter.hint it dint matter in the 1st place all the features in it dont work half the time or crashes your games .

cryptic cant blame the server crashes , log in probmes , in game bugs on any one but them selves.tho imho odds are they wil blame roper .i still think they hired him as a scape goat for their problems .still hopeng they turn it around . but their runing outa time to make me a subscriber.they now have cost me 5 of my 30 free days with their problems .

they will lose subs because of the last few days server crashes an their deleting peoples posts about it.but no matter what . x fire fan boys will always beive x fire to be the yard stick to mesure all games but never look at the demografic of x fire users ( hint they like free games an shooters).

now before you blamed my comp or my glasses for the games probems but my glasses work just fine cause http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SItM3OLqb5w&feature=channel looks realy good imho.the city looks good in the toons mirrored goggles dont they?real time shadows glass an water effects look real good to me.funny cox hired 15 more coders for the game maybe  co should think about that as well.

Sadly X-Fire is used by both fanbois and haters depending on which way the trend swings.  However, I don't think that changes people's view about its reliability for portraying an accurate picture (i.e. it doesn't). 

Stability does factor in, quite heavily.  Its an issue with CO, that it is going down during prime (US) time often at weekends.  It also doesn't help that it has a recently changed fixed maintenance schedule occuring daily (Monday - Friday), which prevents people in the affected (non-US) timezones from playing during their prime time.  To be honest I'd expect this is having more of an impact on subscriptions than anything else, but its also greatly impacting statistics of any time played measuring tool.

I'm really not sure why some people complain about lag being present in CO, as I've personally rarely experieced it and especially after they setup proxy servers. I've seen the odd person call out in global chat, only for the reply from other people to often to be "what lag?". Neither have I seen may bugs with powers, or overall percentage wise with the missions. Yes, of course there are some visibly ones with the latter.  The UI however is another matter, its responces can be frustrating.

Its still pretty much a pointless discussion though (either way) as the vast amount of the gaming community doesn't use X-Fire.   I dare say most of us don't even really care how well a game is doing in comparison to others.  The only concern is that whatever game it is we are enjoying it and from a business perspective its commerically viable enough for them to keep it live.

Originally posted by Axeion

its not just content . or the lack of story.its not just bugs in power.its not the scary mouths the women in co have when talking,nor the grafic bugs.not just the bugged ui atuo attack or no button work bugs.it not just that their servers crashed alot saterday an sunday.nor is it just doing what they said to fix it caused people to lag horribly.its not just their forums are lock an delet fests.not just that super jump can kill you.nor is it just their more conserned with the c store it seems than fixing their game.

its a combination of all of it.sure their forums are wildy snarky ,loaded with fanboy koolaid drinkers who spouted how cool x fire was when they was rising . now claim it dont matter.hint it dint matter in the 1st place all the features in it dont work half the time or crashes your games .

If you have encounter all those problem I will say that you are the one with the problem. it is impossible or you have have bad luck writen all over you. Yes there was a logging problem this weekend, guess what, CO is not the only activity I have during the weekend. My UI always been responsive and you can tweak it in the options menu. The only lag I have experience is in Lemuria (like everyone else) and I fix most of it again by tweaking the video options. Post are deleted and lock because people start new thread about the same thing when there is already many open, so stop flooding the forum, I never had any of my post deleted or lock.

Again, do not mix C-Store and fixing department, one is doing art and the other those the coding.

XFire may not be statistical, non-bias, or even possibel to compare games numbers, but...

When at the start of the month, it lists number of people playing, and by the end of the month, that number is lower, I doubt its because all of sudden, current players of CO who are still playing, decided to uninstall XFire.

Ususally, its because they've STOPPED PLAYING.

And the number has dropped by a huge amount in the games first month, very bad sign.
 

Originally posted by ghost047

Originally posted by Axeion

its not just content . or the lack of story.its not just bugs in power.its not the scary mouths the women in co have when talking,nor the grafic bugs.not just the bugged ui atuo attack or no button work bugs.it not just that their servers crashed alot saterday an sunday.nor is it just doing what they said to fix it caused people to lag horribly.its not just their forums are lock an delet fests.not just that super jump can kill you.nor is it just their more conserned with the c store it seems than fixing their game.

its a combination of all of it.sure their forums are wildy snarky ,loaded with fanboy koolaid drinkers who spouted how cool x fire was when they was rising . now claim it dont matter.hint it dint matter in the 1st place all the features in it dont work half the time or crashes your games .

If you have encounter all those problem I will say that you are the one with the problem. it is impossible or you have have bad luck writen all over you. Yes there was a logging problem this weekend, guess what, CO is not the only activity I have during the weekend. My UI always been responsive and you can tweak it in the options menu. The only lag I have experience is in Lemuria (like everyone else) and I fix most of it again by tweaking the video options. Post are deleted and lock because people start new thread about the same thing when there is already many open, so stop flooding the forum, I never had any of my post deleted or lock.

Again, do not mix C-Store and fixing department, one is doing art and the other those the coding.

I haven't had too many problems with bugged powers, however there is a problem with the responsiveness of the UI, especially shield.  Sometimes it reacts when pushed, sometimes you just stand there.  I haven't experienced any lag, except in Lemuria.  My biggest problem with CO is content, and the lack thereof.  I know of many people that have quit when they hit the 30-35 range because of the lack of content.  They didn't rush, there is just NOT enough content, PERIOD!  This game is failing miserably, and the devs don't seem to care.  They may care after all the six monthers don't renew.  They could care less about the lifers, they already conned them out of their money.  This game seems to be going the way of Tabula Rasa.  I just don't see it retaining subs in its current state.

Originally posted by Axeion

cryptic cant blame the server crashes , log in probmes , in game bugs on any one but them selves.tho imho odds are they wil blame roper .i still think they hired him as a scape goat for their problems .still hopeng they turn it around . but their runing outa time to make me a subscriber.they now have cost me 5 of my 30 free days with their problems .

So it cost you 5 days at 15$ a month, it's 2,50$ for those 5 days. Today they announce they will give a free retcon (12,50$ a pop) tomorrow after the maintnance, obviously, they don't stack so you have to use the one you already have before tomorrow. Even if you weren't going to buy one, it is nice to have one bank for the future, you see I have more than 1 toon (9 exactly, so do the math). I think they are very nice to give something back to the community.

www.champions-online.com/node/594631

Originally posted by junzo316

Originally posted by ghost047

Originally posted by Axeion

its not just content . or the lack of story.its not just bugs in power.its not the scary mouths the women in co have when talking,nor the grafic bugs.not just the bugged ui atuo attack or no button work bugs.it not just that their servers crashed alot saterday an sunday.nor is it just doing what they said to fix it caused people to lag horribly.its not just their forums are lock an delet fests.not just that super jump can kill you.nor is it just their more conserned with the c store it seems than fixing their game.

its a combination of all of it.sure their forums are wildy snarky ,loaded with fanboy koolaid drinkers who spouted how cool x fire was when they was rising . now claim it dont matter.hint it dint matter in the 1st place all the features in it dont work half the time or crashes your games .

If you have encounter all those problem I will say that you are the one with the problem. it is impossible or you have have bad luck writen all over you. Yes there was a logging problem this weekend, guess what, CO is not the only activity I have during the weekend. My UI always been responsive and you can tweak it in the options menu. The only lag I have experience is in Lemuria (like everyone else) and I fix most of it again by tweaking the video options. Post are deleted and lock because people start new thread about the same thing when there is already many open, so stop flooding the forum, I never had any of my post deleted or lock.

Again, do not mix C-Store and fixing department, one is doing art and the other those the coding.

I haven't had too many problems with bugged powers, however there is a problem with the responsiveness of the UI, especially shield.  Sometimes it reacts when pushed, sometimes you just stand there.  I haven't experienced any lag, except in Lemuria.  My biggest problem with CO is content, and the lack thereof.  I know of many people that have quit when they hit the 30-35 range because of the lack of content.  They didn't rush, there is just NOT enough content, PERIOD!  This game is failing miserably, and the devs don't seem to care.  They may care after all the six monthers don't renew.  They could care less about the lifers, they already conned them out of their money.  This game seems to be going the way of Tabula Rasa.  I just don't see it retaining subs in its current state.

Actually there is enough content, there's just not enough diversity which means you have to do most of the PvE missions if that is all you are doing.  I've several high level heroes and while there's been periods of having to do missions +2 levels higher (mostly around level 29 and then again at around 35) not once have I ran out.  Anyone who states there is not enough period simply hasn't played all aspects of the game, or understand that not all missions are directly given by NPCs.  More content is definatly needed, but its not lacking to reach max. level.

While numbers certainly aren't as they were at launch, there is still plenty of people around.

Originally posted by ghost047

Originally posted by Axeion

cryptic cant blame the server crashes , log in probmes , in game bugs on any one but them selves.tho imho odds are they wil blame roper .i still think they hired him as a scape goat for their problems .still hopeng they turn it around . but their runing outa time to make me a subscriber.they now have cost me 5 of my 30 free days with their problems .

So it cost you 5 days at 15$ a month, it's 2,50$ for those 5 days. Today they announce they will give a free retcon (12,50$ a pop) tomorrow after the maintnance, obviously, they don't stack so you have to use the one you already have before tomorrow. Even if you weren't going to buy one, it is nice to have one bank for the future, you see I have more than 1 toon (9 exactly, so do the math). I think they are very nice to give something back to the community.

www.champions-online.com/node/594631

Oh come now. Charging the players over and above a SUB for things like respects/retcons is what i would call "exploitation" . If you have a game with less content than GUILDWARS, asking a monthly sub AND then have a micro-transaction store , you really have to wonder why is anyone finding this acceptable?

If Blizzard mess around with your skills, they give you a free respec too. Hell, Funcom did it on my chars almost every 2nd patch! Full free respecs, -immediately- . Cryptic took at least 2+ weeks AFTER they totally messed around with the powers to give free retcons, they probably caved before everyone /ragequit, but it was clear they did not want to give it.

Cryptic artificially made retcons extremely expensive so that all us suckers are now bowing down to this uber option to BUY a retcon for CASH....e-x-p-l-o-i-t-a-t-i-o-n .

Originally posted by Elikal

Originally posted by Death1942

because we all know Xfire is the be all and end all of MMO statistics....

 

It sure is just a part, but still, when you make a sample of a development seeing one part loosing many you can assume it CAN be representative, even if only a certain percentage of CO gamers uses Xfire. Lets say, if 20% of all gamers of a game use XFire, and within 2 months that drops by more than half, you can dead sure conclude it is representative enough to say that the numbers per se drop, because there is no logical reason to assume XFire users quit while the rest all stays. Statistics always are made with samples. I think XFire developments are quite a good indicator.

Apparently you haven't taken a statistics course in there life.  Answers are in the same colors as the highlights.

You can assume if you want, but you are doing just what the tried and true statement about "assume".  It goes something like this, "When you assume anything, you are making an ass out of 'U' and 'me'."  Luckily I have nothing to do with this assumption as I am not assuming anything of the sort without hard proof to back it up.  And, as I have stated countless times, X-fire figures are not hard proof.

No you can't.  Well, YOU can, but you'd be doing the "assume" thing.  The main reason you CAN'T use X-fire figures (they aren't stats) to compare games across an overall gaming population is because NO ONE actually knows the exact percentage of the total gaming population actually uses X-fire.  Not to mention the exact percentage of CO players actually use X-fire.  NO ONE knows these percentages.  Since this percentage is not known, usage of X-fire figures (they aren't stats) to compare over the total gaming population is beyond flawed and completely useless.

And, there is no logical reason to ASSUME... period.  Without factual proof of the exact percentage of the total gaming population that uses X-fire (at least) or the percentage of CO users that use X-fire (at most) then any usage of X-fire figures (they aren't stats) to compare games outside the X-fire player base is just ASSUMING.

Proof that you have no clue about statistics.  Take a course before you spout anything else about statistics.  To say "statistics always are made with samples" automatically reduces your credibility on the subject to 0.  You have no clue about statistics... period.

EDIT:  I forgot to explain one point about statistics.  For anything to be considered a statistic, there must be quite a bit of control attached to the collection process.  When I say "control", I mean a major attempt at removal (or control) of all extraneous circumstances that could alter the data so that they are not measuring what the statistician or scientist wants to measure.  X-fire figures (they're not stats) has way too many extraneous circumstances to even call these data as statistics. 

The main one being the lack of knowledge of the percentage of the total gaming population that uses X-fire.  Without this percentage, then the usage of X-fire figures (they're not stats) to compare to the total gaming population would be like observing a percentage increase in the Willow Goldfinch (Washington state bird... had to look that one up) dying in Washington state and claiming that all bird species were dying at the same percentage.  That's completely wrong as there's no other factual evidence to back up that claim at all.

You do realise just about every subscription based MMO these days has a cash shop, for things like character renames, server moves, race changes, extra character slots, etc.

As for the cash shop respec , it's an option, not the only means.  Since they changed the drop rates of vendor trash, unless you are an appauling player and it took 40 levels to realise the build's not  working its perfectly affordable in-game, using in-game resource, at no additional real world cost.  That includes corrections to builds, multiple times while leveling.

Cryptic have handed out free respecs after every significant change, even to those that weren't affected.  The only justifiable compaint in that area is the length of time it took to issue the very first one.  Their excuse being the mechanics were not coded into the game to allow a full respec at that time.  Was that satisfactory, no, but at least they've been fair in issuing them since.

Originally posted by urbanmech

XFire may not be statistical, non-bias, or even possibel to compare games numbers, but...

When at the start of the month, it lists number of people playing, and by the end of the month, that number is lower, I doubt its because all of sudden, current players of CO who are still playing, decided to uninstall XFire.

Ususally, its because they've STOPPED PLAYING.

And the number has dropped by a huge amount in the games first month, very bad sign.
 

Do you know the exact percentage of the total gaming population that uses X-fire?  Do you?  If you do, then provide actual, hard evidence.  Oh, and using X-fire figures (they aren't statistics) is not "hard evidence".

Until this percentage is known (at least) then a drop in X-Fire figures (they aren't statistics) on CO usage ONLY explains CO players that use X-fire.  And, since NO ONE knows the exact percentage of the total gaming population that use X-Fire, then NO ONE can extrapolate the ACCURATE statistics of the total CO gaming population from X-fire users as there's too many extraneous variables attached to the X-fire figures (they aren't statistics).