Hi all, I have been playing WOW for sometime now ever since I left SWG due to the disastrous NGE. I was considering Darkfall but ever since the terrible reviews it had when it first launched I have steered clear of it. Now however I have heard some really positive things about it. I love player housing and RP within military guilds so I have the following questions:

• Is Darkfall much better than it was or was this just rumours?
• Is the player housing like SWG?
• Is there any RP in Darkfall? If there is are there RP Military guilds?
• Does the Darkfall server/s have a good population?
• Whats the crafting like? Better or worse than the master SWG?

Your help would be appreciated guys.

Thanks
 

I believe it's come a long way, and is a very worthy game right now that provides great entertainment to people that want this kind of entertainment.

Player housing is not like SWG at all.  Basically there are villages all over the map with new ones added with this expansion.  Each village has plots for cottages, houses, villas, and large villas where a player may find a deed say in a random chaos chest in the world and place their house on it.  Then you pay taxes at the rate of 10gp per hour due every 72 hours (720gp every 3 days).  After that you have 8 days to pay the amount as it increases 10gp per hour.  If you don't your house crumbles and someone else can take your plot with their own deed.  Village control points are vulnerable every 6 hours and guilds can capture them for income on the taxes of the village which means guilds will fight for control of the village regardless of your standing with them.  This expansion is adding more items, but right now most are decoration with a couple items like a garden or crafting station.  Localized banking inside of houses is supposed to happen this expansion as well.

Population is great from what I can tell.  I am always playing with a guild though in our guild city with at least 5-10 members on constantly, and upwards of 40 to 50 at peak times.  It was also good when I came back in the human starting areas, but many people leave these places quickly to join their guilds in cities and hamlets.  The population will increase after transfers as well.  This is NA-1.

Crafting is basic, collect all mats, craft items.  It is cool in that every item in the game pretty much is craftable.  From little weak swords all the way to massive siege weapons and massive naval ships.

Originally posted by busbydaniel

Hi all, I have been playing WOW for sometime now ever since I left SWG due to the disastrous NGE. I was considering Darkfall but ever since the terrible reviews it had when it first launched I have steered clear of it. Now however I have heard some really positive things about it. I love player housing and RP within military guilds so I have the following questions:

• Is Darkfall much better than it was or was this just rumours?
• Is the player housing like SWG?
• Is there any RP in Darkfall? If there is are there RP Military guilds?
• Does the Darkfall server/s have a good population?
• Whats the crafting like? Better or worse than the master SWG?

Your help would be appreciated guys.

Thanks
 

I am a big SWG Pre CU fan myself and a Darkfall fan. 

• for me it was always good, others will confirm that it has become better however.
• no freedom to exactly location, houses are not crafted but looted deeds. There is no placing items on the ground in Darkfall. The villages location in which houses can be placed will get love in the new expansion so they might get intresting places.  Decorations,a recall to house, chaos crafting station  and garden addition is the current incentive to use them. Houses are no safe zone like SWG after the front door getting smashed anyone will enter. With closed door you can assign a friens enter list.
• Douchy of  Wessex  comes in mind - Hyperion alliance on Eu1 server.
• IMO population is ok  for find a peacefull place or find PvP if you like. Just can tell  for Eu1.
• Less complex but badly needed like SWG,  next expansion will propably make additions to the market aspect in the current state you have to "grind" your market.  No stats on ressources, no random ressource spots (they are in fixed location everywhere on tthe map), no experimentation.

An overall warning FFA full loot PvP is the dominating ruleset on Agon, you willhave to adapt to it.

Originally posted by busbydaniel

Hi all, I have been playing WOW for sometime now ever since I left SWG due to the disastrous NGE. I was considering Darkfall but ever since the terrible reviews it had when it first launched I have steered clear of it. Now however I have heard some really positive things about it. I love player housing and RP within military guilds so I have the following questions:

• Is Darkfall much better than it was or was this just rumours? Just rumours
• Is the player housing like SWG? Not even close
• Is there any RP in Darkfall? If there is are there RP Military guilds? Nonexistant
• Does the Darkfall server/s have a good population? EU-1 did have on launch, don't know how they're now
• Whats the crafting like? Better or worse than the master SWG? Much worse, collect few mats to make an item and PAY gold to be able to craft the item and don't forget that harvesting is worst i've ever seen and is 99% done by macros while watching TV or something else, like pretty much everything is done via macros, magic skillups and whatnots

Your help would be appreciated guys.

Thanks
 

Originally posted by Fusion

Originally posted by busbydaniel

Hi all, I have been playing WOW for sometime now ever since I left SWG due to the disastrous NGE. I was considering Darkfall but ever since the terrible reviews it had when it first launched I have steered clear of it. Now however I have heard some really positive things about it. I love player housing and RP within military guilds so I have the following questions:

• Is Darkfall much better than it was or was this just rumours? Just rumours
• Is the player housing like SWG? Not even close
• Is there any RP in Darkfall? If there is are there RP Military guilds? Nonexistant
• Does the Darkfall server/s have a good population? EU-1 did have on launch, don't know how they're now
• Whats the crafting like? Better or worse than the master SWG? Much worse, collect few mats to make an item and PAY gold to be able to craft the item and don't forget that harvesting is worst i've ever seen and is 99% done by macros while watching TV or something else, like pretty much everything is done via macros, magic skillups and whatnots

Your help would be appreciated guys.

Thanks
 

 

You obviously forgot SWG's  '/harvest' command  and its macroing ;) 

Also the famous unattended macro loops get you crafter profession masterys  ?

What about unattented autoattack  aggro mobs over night to get master in SWG, or the famous tumble / heal combo partnership and its macroing like sychronized swimming competition ? 

Don't look down at DF..

Thank you for your comments guys they are appreciated.

Originally posted by DarthRaiden

Originally posted by Fusion

Originally posted by busbydaniel

Hi all, I have been playing WOW for sometime now ever since I left SWG due to the disastrous NGE. I was considering Darkfall but ever since the terrible reviews it had when it first launched I have steered clear of it. Now however I have heard some really positive things about it. I love player housing and RP within military guilds so I have the following questions:

• Is Darkfall much better than it was or was this just rumours? Just rumours
• Is the player housing like SWG? Not even close
• Is there any RP in Darkfall? If there is are there RP Military guilds? Nonexistant
• Does the Darkfall server/s have a good population? EU-1 did have on launch, don't know how they're now
• Whats the crafting like? Better or worse than the master SWG? Much worse, collect few mats to make an item and PAY gold to be able to craft the item and don't forget that harvesting is worst i've ever seen and is 99% done by macros while watching TV or something else, like pretty much everything is done via macros, magic skillups and whatnots

Your help would be appreciated guys.

Thanks
 

 

 

You obviously forgot SWG's  '/harvest' command  and its macroing ;) 

No i didn't forget that, but it's still totally different kind of macroing. In this you get a 3rd party macro program (you can choose not to, but be prepared for massive fingertip hemorrage if you decide to do these tasks manually), smack it in the backround, get to the harvest spot, click the macro on play and move to watching the TV

Originally posted by Fusion

Originally posted by DarthRaiden

Originally posted by Fusion

Originally posted by busbydaniel

Hi all, I have been playing WOW for sometime now ever since I left SWG due to the disastrous NGE. I was considering Darkfall but ever since the terrible reviews it had when it first launched I have steered clear of it. Now however I have heard some really positive things about it. I love player housing and RP within military guilds so I have the following questions:

• Is Darkfall much better than it was or was this just rumours? Just rumours
• Is the player housing like SWG? Not even close
• Is there any RP in Darkfall? If there is are there RP Military guilds? Nonexistant
• Does the Darkfall server/s have a good population? EU-1 did have on launch, don't know how they're now
• Whats the crafting like? Better or worse than the master SWG? Much worse, collect few mats to make an item and PAY gold to be able to craft the item and don't forget that harvesting is worst i've ever seen and is 99% done by macros while watching TV or something else, like pretty much everything is done via macros, magic skillups and whatnots

Your help would be appreciated guys.

Thanks
 

 

 

You obviously forgot SWG's  '/harvest' command  and its macroing ;) 

 

No i didn't forget that, but it's still totally different kind of macroing. In this you get a 3rd party macro program (you can choose not to, but be prepared for massive fingertip hemorrage if you decide to do these tasks manually), smack it in the backround, get to the harvest spot, click the macro on play and move to watching the TV

You didn't have to use third party softwarein SWG because SWG shiped with an macro language and all tools you needed off  the bat ;) I loved SWG PRE CU but i take both games on their own merits and value them both.

Originally posted by busbydaniel

Hi all, I have been playing WOW for sometime now ever since I left SWG due to the disastrous NGE. I was considering Darkfall but ever since the terrible reviews it had when it first launched I have steered clear of it. Now however I have heard some really positive things about it. I love player housing and RP within military guilds so I have the following questions:

• Is Darkfall much better than it was or was this just rumours? Darkfall at start was a bit messy, but there have been loads of improvements and its second (free) expansion is coming up.
• Is the player housing like SWG? No idea, housing in darkfall; you buy a house deed and you go to some sort of "settlement", they have places there where you can use your house deed and set up your house, the new free expansion will upgrade the housing system
• Is there any RP in Darkfall? If there is are there RP Military guilds? Darkfall has its RP, not sure if there are RP military guilds
• Does the Darkfall server/s have a good population? NA-1 has loads of people, EU-1 has somewhat less, but it doesn't really matter, if you want a big battle join a clan and you'll get it :)
• Whats the crafting like? Better or worse than the master SWG? You have to farm quiet some items in order to craft items, but its usually worth it, you have certain benches to craft certain things (like logs into wooden planks), but you can craft ALOT of things, including rafts, ships, keeps etc...

Your help would be appreciated guys.

Thanks
 

here ill give you a neutral and honest answer... /\

And a piece of advice for the OP, if your going to try DF, coming straight from WoW will be a helluwa bumpy ride, this game is really unforgivin in terms of hardcore FFA-pvp ruleset with full pvp-loot.

So thinking that starting this game will be anything of a smooth landing, it is not, you will lose your stuff over and over again and you just have to deal with it if you intend to stay for longer than the first 2 days. (don't get me wrong, i stayed for a little over 2 months, the game just didn't cut the cheese for me in the long run)

Originally posted by busbydaniel

Hi all, I have been playing WOW for sometime now ever since I left SWG due to the disastrous NGE. I was considering Darkfall but ever since the terrible reviews it had when it first launched I have steered clear of it. Now however I have heard some really positive things about it. I love player housing and RP within military guilds so I have the following questions:

• Is Darkfall much better than it was or was this just rumours?
• Is the player housing like SWG?
• Is there any RP in Darkfall? If there is are there RP Military guilds?
• Does the Darkfall server/s have a good population?
• Whats the crafting like? Better or worse than the master SWG?

Your help would be appreciated guys.

Thanks
 

  1. No it was supposed to be feature complete, and about 33% of those features made it in at 100%, and after 10 months still not even close to feature complete.

2. The house in darkfull sucks, there is no point to it, except to have a bindstone point, so you can travel to your house. All the stuff you get for your house is pratically worthless. SWG is 1000 times better.

3. RP? lol no, I would say maybe 1 guild of 10 people on each server(2 servers) are rp guilds. The rest are just PVPERS who like full loot.

4. No darkfall is dying, EU and NA servers are both very very horrible population, The servers were meant to have 7,500-10k concurrent people on it at a time(at least 5k), I would say it is closer to around 500-1000 tops concurrent people playing actively on it.

5. Crafting is horrible simple and tedious, Not even close to SWG, the gathering is even worse. you can not customize any weapons or have any options in crafting them, they give you 10 tiers of armor and you need to craft 1000 of level 1 teirs to get to level tier 2, and then vendor all the level teir 1 armor, because no one will buy it.

Also you can not really be a crafter in this game, trading sucks atm, alliances have at least1-5 alts that have 100 in every crafting tree. No skill cap on crafting skills make it very east to do this and worthless to be a crafter and try to make gold.

Any other questions? I played for 7 months and seen it all and Play A LOT of DFO.

Heya, been playing DFO exclusively since July. Just wanted to chime in on your questions.

* Is Darkfall much better than it was or was this just rumours? The gameplay is very smooth. I like yourself was terrified when I bought it due to the reviews. The server is stable, the gameplay is also. The game itself will be far better in a few weeks with the next expansion(patch).

* Is the player housing like SWG? No, if your into player owned housing you will have to join a guild. The guild cities are pretty impressive though. Should not be an issue for you though, to really experience the game you have to join a guild.

* Is there any RP in Darkfall? If there is are there RP Military guilds? Not much, I am on NA-1 and I am actually in one of the few single-race guilds. We're Orc only but do not really roleplay. We do try to stick to the lore of the game though. Most guilds are ARAC which simply means it's a mix of all races.

* Does the Darkfall server/s have a good population? The newbie NPC towns are pretty light at the moment. As I said previously the guild cities and hamlets are more populated, that is where the bulk of the action is for now. Once they allow Eu -> NA server transfers there will be an influx. Also, with the new expansion I would expect a bit more adverstising which should bump the numbers.

* Whats the crafting like? Better or worse than the master SWG? Hard to be a freelance salesman. Pretty much everyone crafts something. The guilds all pretty much have exclusive crafters. As for the previous poster, I beg to differ a little bit. With enchantments a pretty wide variety of weapons and armor can be made. He failed to mention it. It's a hellva lot more fun shooting flaming bows :)

Turned out DFO was a nice fit for me just because I came from an FPS backgroud. I like MMO's but I can never really stick with them for long. The FPS mechanics in this game helped sustain interest.

BOL
 

Originally posted by busbydaniel

Hi all, I have been playing WOW for sometime now ever since I left SWG due to the disastrous NGE. I was considering Darkfall but ever since the terrible reviews it had when it first launched I have steered clear of it. Now however I have heard some really positive things about it. I love player housing and RP within military guilds so I have the following questions:

• Is Darkfall much better than it was or was this just rumours?

          Darkfall has taken some good steps forward, but still has a ways to go.

• Is the player housing like SWG?

As stated in another reply, not even close.

• Is there any RP in Darkfall? If there is are there RP Military guilds?

Well, I guess it depends on what you want to roleplay.

• Does the Darkfall server/s have a good population?

NA is probably decent. EU seems to be low, and looks to lose more players when transfers are allowed.

• Whats the crafting like? Better or worse than the master SWG?

Worse. Not even close. No comparison. IMO

 

Your help would be appreciated guys.

Thanks
 

Without going into details/excuses/justifications, you may want to wait for the next "expansion" and check back.

Probably not a lot of help, but those are my answers/opinions.

Good luck with whatever you decide.

Originally posted by Respit

 

Without going into details/excuses/justifications, you may want to wait for the next "expansion" and check back.

Probably not a lot of help, but those are my answers/opinions.

 

Good luck with whatever you decide.

Definitely good advice that you should consider. So many good changes on the way it would be worth the wait.