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Originally posted by efefia
Its no wonder why some fools would vote for the BNP.
Labour threw open Britain's borders to mass immigration to help socially engineer a "truly multicultural" country, a former Government adviser has revealed. These leftists retards have them selves to blame for the rise of the far right.
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Originally posted by Precusor
Its no wonder why some fools would vote for the BNP.
Labour threw open Britain's borders to mass immigration to help socially engineer a "truly multicultural" country, a former Government adviser has revealed. These leftists retards have them selves to blame for the rise of the far right.
The far right are gaining support more due to the fact that the main parties all band the same policies, The Tories obviously being the worst protagonists. Tories bringing their policies central from centre-right, Labour bringing theirs central from centre-left. Parties like UKIP and unfortunately the BNP are gaining momentum largely due to the Tories inability to re-adopt centre-right policies for fear of losing the support of ethnic minorities (who are now majorities in many city wards), I hope they see sense and give people a real alternative to the ludicrous policies of the likes of the BNP. Never thought I'd say this, and it pains me to admit it but we're very much missing the Thatcherites. ...The spread of secondary and latterly of tertiary education has created a large population of people, often with well developed literary and scholarly tastes, who have been educated far beyond their capacity to undertake analytical thought. |
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Could someone give me a cliff notes of whats going on in England politically? I admit I am not as educated on their politics as I'd like to be. Thanks :) Do you support Liberty, Freedom and wish to Uphold the Constitution? Join the movement - http://CampaignForLiberty.com |
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Originally posted by smokemonsc
Mass invasion of third world immigrants have really angered the British.
Seven in 10 Britons want immigration cut by 80 per cent as the issue continues to be a main concern for the public. www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/5349924/Seven-in-ten-Britons-want-immigration-slashed.html |
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Originally posted by Precusor
Mass invasion of third world immigrants have really angered the British.
Seven in 10 Britons want immigration cut by 80 per cent as the issue continues to be a main concern for the public. www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/5349924/Seven-in-ten-Britons-want-immigration-slashed.html Don't believe anything Precusor ever posts, eve,. he's not even from Britian, I'd wait for Baff to post on this one he posts best. Im British too, btw Precusor is wrong on this he's chatting crap... "If they can make Penicillin out of mouldy bread, they can sure make something out of you," - Muhammed Ali |
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Originally posted by murdera2k6 You're in some troubled times as a labor supporter. The YouGov poll, which was commissioned by Migrationwatch for the Cross Party Group on Balanced Migration, found just one in 20 adults supports the current levels of immigration. www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/5349924/Seven-in-ten-Britons-want-immigration-slashed.html the root cause of this invasion
Jack Straw and Tony Blair 'dishonestly' concealed a plan to allow in more immigrants and make Britain more multi-cultural because they feared a public backlash if it was made public, it has been claimed. The allegation was made after a former Labour adviser said the Government opened up UK borders partly to humiliate Right-wing opponents of immigration.
Labour ministers deliberately encouraged mass immigration to diversify Britain over the past decade, a former Downing Street adviser has claimed. Doubt labor will ever gain power for at least 50 years. |
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Plasuma!!!
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Joined: 9/19/05
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Condell is an interesting guy, he delivers his opinions with a nice bit of snark. I'm sorry if you're too deeply rooted in your opinion to be able to take another person's opinion seriously, because he certainly makes a genuine point.
I gather from what he's saying that dogma with no real foundations in truth are going on the offensive, and that institutions are beginning to openly fight the collaborative, unorganized masses via tactful political manipulation in an attempt to preserve themselves. They are feeling threatened because they know they are an obstacle. It's only a matter of time now. Either institutional dogma will fall and make way for progression, or dogma will prevail and our society will be doomed to yet another dark age. |
Originally posted by Precusor You're in some troubled times as a labor supporter. The YouGov poll, which was commissioned by Migrationwatch for the Cross Party Group on Balanced Migration, found just one in 20 adults supports the current levels of immigration. www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/5349924/Seven-in-ten-Britons-want-immigration-slashed.html the root cause of this invasion
Jack Straw and Tony Blair 'dishonestly' concealed a plan to allow in more immigrants and make Britain more multi-cultural because they feared a public backlash if it was made public, it has been claimed. The allegation was made after a former Labour adviser said the Government opened up UK borders partly to humiliate Right-wing opponents of immigration.
Labour ministers deliberately encouraged mass immigration to diversify Britain over the past decade, a former Downing Street adviser has claimed. Doubt labor will ever gain power for at least 50 years. YOU FUCKING MORON! I don't support Labour in fact im more conservative, but you are a racist bigot, who post lies and biased information. And don't tell me how things are in my coutnry because you Precusor don't have a bloody clue. You are frankly pathetic, your lame attempts at telling me otherwise frankly show your stupidy. "If they can make Penicillin out of mouldy bread, they can sure make something out of you," - Muhammed Ali |
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Originally posted by murdera2k The info is from you're media and you're pathetic government so calling it lies and bias is just ridiculous.
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Originally posted by murdera2k6
The main point he posted is from a source within the Labour party. It's difficult to claim any bias given that fact. And as for being "more conservative", as I said previously it's easy to claim to be a conservative supporter these days seeing as New Labour =/= Conservative. Central policies will be the undoing of both parties unless they revert back to their core values instead of trying to appeal to the lowest common denominator. David Cameron will be PM this time next year and unless the Tories are willing to re-adopt core conservative centre-right / right party values it won't be any different than the last 12 years under Labour, voter malcontent will increase and more and more support will be given to the likes of the BNP. If you're inferring that raising issues about immigration and multi culturalism is bigotted or biased, you are infact part of the problem.
For our Stateside cousins reading this wondering "wtf" I should probably point out that we're on course to hit a total population of 71 million by 2033, to put that in perspective we have a total land mass that is less than the state of oregon. ...The spread of secondary and latterly of tertiary education has created a large population of people, often with well developed literary and scholarly tastes, who have been educated far beyond their capacity to undertake analytical thought. |
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I doubt the US has to worry about any anti-freedom of speech laws
The Executive Branch just tried to remove a major media outlet from the loop only to have the entire media organization up in arms against them for even suggesting such a thing.
When MSNBC, ABC, CNN and others are teaming up with Fox to give a in unison F' You to the government at least you know not all has gone insane.
Who would follow such a law? And how can they make us? We outnumber them. |
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Originally posted by Pyrich
That's the complacency that the vid the OP posted is warning about, "we outnumber them" as well here in the UK (although it doesn't feel like it the way our politicians pander to them) but it doesn't change the fact that anyone willing to speak up against immigration or similar matters is labelled as a bigot. ...The spread of secondary and latterly of tertiary education has created a large population of people, often with well developed literary and scholarly tastes, who have been educated far beyond their capacity to undertake analytical thought. |
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frodus
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Joined: 9/15/06
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It's sad to see a country that was once the industrial workshop of the world turn into a place bereft of any significant manufacturing capability, and wholly reliant on white collar financial service industries that deal in the intangible. Coupled with rampant alcoholism, increasing street crime, an education system where everyone gets an 'A' grade, and where new houses get impossibly smaller year by year, "Great" Britain is becoming more insignificant. Still, I guess a lot of the above will continue to provide an interesting sardonic backdrop for future Brit-com series, which remains the UK's only value add to the rest of the world. Pat loves his country vary much,he is only stating the obvious. Trade in material assumptions for spiritual facts and make permanent progress. |
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frodus
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Originally posted by Precusor
Having recently visited the uk midlands (coventry & birmingham) it was astonishing to see how they have transformed into asian cities. More concerning is the unemployed obviously uneducated youths who inhabit every park, generally drinking cheap wine & cider or smoking up plus loads of teenage unwed mothers. They don't generally bother people as the state gives them shelter & money.however with 25% youth unemployment and a huge migrant issue ( note 52% of london births in 2008 were to non british born mothers)this is a powder keg that will blow especially if the govt. cuts wefare benefits Canada by comparison is booming. Just about everone I know seems to have just got back from China or australia etc. the restaurants are full, stock market has largely recovered and house prices are back to all time highs again. Of course it helps to have oil, gas, wheat, potash, gold lumber unlimited land and even diamonds oh and being next to the still greatest economy on earthdoes'nt hurt. Trade in material assumptions for spiritual facts and make permanent progress. |
Originally posted by Pyrich
The US ranks just as high (or low) on the press freedom index as the UK does. Also Frodus, the US has a much higher teenage pregancy rate than the UK does. They probably have a bigger drinking and drugs problem as well. |
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Originally posted by efefia
"If they can make Penicillin out of mouldy bread, they can sure make something out of you," - Muhammed Ali |
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Originally posted by murdera2k6
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/lawandorder/6418456/Labour-wanted-mass-immigration-to-make-UK-more-multicultural-says-former-adviser.html# The huge increases in migrants over the last decade were partly due to a politically motivated attempt by ministers to radically change the country and "rub the Right's nose in diversity", according to Andrew Neather, a former adviser to Tony Blair, Jack Straw and David Blunkett. David Cameron will be PM this time next year and unless the Tories are willing to re-adopt core conservative centre-right / right party values it won't be any different than the last 12 years under Labour, voter malcontent will increase and more and more support will be given to the likes of the BNP. Are you really that anive? No they are not the same, similar maybe but they are not the same. They have much stricter immigration policies and their policiesin general are generally vastly different. Well you're willing to concede that they are "similar". At what point in history has that ever been the case? If you're inferring that raising issues about immigration and multi culturalism is bigotted or biased, you are infact part of the problem. No i'm not, immigration is out of control but Precusor likes to paint a doomsday picture which it really isn't. Britain needs immigrants just not so many... We have an unemployment rate at 7.9%, at which point do you propose we stop immigration?
For our Stateside cousins reading this wondering "wtf" I should probably point out that we're on course to hit a total population of 71 million by 2033, to put that in perspective we have a total land mass that is less than the state of oregon. I'm sorry, you can completely disregard this, Britain's policy on immigration is changing, it's NEVER going to get that bad and stop reading sensationalised news headlines.... http://www.statistics.gov.uk/pdfdir/pprojnr1009.pdf A government agency report, nothing to do with "sensationalised headlines", so yes it is going to get that bad.
...The spread of secondary and latterly of tertiary education has created a large population of people, often with well developed literary and scholarly tastes, who have been educated far beyond their capacity to undertake analytical thought. |
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Originally posted by Gameloading
The US ranks just as high (or low) on the press freedom index as the UK does. Also Frodus, the US has a much higher teenage pregancy rate than the UK does. They probably have a bigger drinking and drugs problem as well.
I would imagine.
Southern Texas it seems that by 16 if you arent married with 1 or 2 kids your a slacker. These people do not wait for anything out here. |
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Originally posted by efefia
That's the complacency that the vid the OP posted is warning about, "we outnumber them" as well here in the UK (although it doesn't feel like it the way our politicians pander to them) but it doesn't change the fact that anyone willing to speak up against immigration or similar matters is labelled as a bigot.
Plenty of wack jobs ready to lead a charge if things ever got bad Hell, plenty ready to lead a charge when things aren't so bad unfortunatly
as for the name calling, sticks and stones Haven't you heard to latest jokes from america? If you are against the socially driven democrats you are a trailor park racist bigot. It's getting to the realm of stupid. |
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Originally posted by efefia
"If they can make Penicillin out of mouldy bread, they can sure make something out of you," - Muhammed Ali |
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Originally posted by murdera2k6
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/lawandorder/6418456/Labour-wanted-mass-immigration-to-make-UK-more-multicultural-says-former-adviser.html# The huge increases in migrants over the last decade were partly due to a politically motivated attempt by ministers to radically change the country and "rub the Right's nose in diversity", according to Andrew Neather, a former adviser to Tony Blair, Jack Straw and David Blunkett. lol an ex labour adviser who is probably trying to sell his story to make some money, to me that's not a labour source Motives are irrelevent, tha fact still stands. So you had to study the subject to agree with my initial point which you originally refuted? I'd ask for my study fees back if I were you. Skills gap is a great argument, until you realise that the hundreds of thousands of Eastern Europeans that flooded the country thanks to Labour openning our borders to all EU workers are mostly filling unskilled jobs, or do you think you need a PhD to pick fruit, wash cars and sell flowers?
On a lighter note, we're going to run out of colours! ...The spread of secondary and latterly of tertiary education has created a large population of people, often with well developed literary and scholarly tastes, who have been educated far beyond their capacity to undertake analytical thought. |
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Originally posted by efefia Motives are irrelevent, tha fact still stands. No it means that the facts are most probably skewed... So you had to study the subject to agree with my initial point which you originally refuted? I'd ask for my study fees back if I were you. No, They are not the same, which is your initial point, they are similar, you initial point was that they will bring in the same policies, which is WRONG, they will introduce different policies but their stance on issues will be similar...not the same thing, and similar does not mean the same and in fact most of the time they will differ... Skills gap is a great argument, until you realise that the hundreds of thousands of Eastern Europeans that flooded the country thanks to Labour openning our borders to all EU workers are mostly filling unskilled jobs, or do you think you need a PhD to pick fruit, wash cars and sell flowers?
On a lighter note, we're going to run out of colours!
"If they can make Penicillin out of mouldy bread, they can sure make something out of you," - Muhammed Ali |
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Originally posted by murdera2k6 Still got a few to go :p.
Lots of pre..tty colours! Ok, with regards to the source,simple fact is it eminates from a Labour party activist, that's the only fact we know so the point can't really be denied, you either prove that is a fallacy or there's nothing else to discuss, saying it's skewed, refusing to believe it etc is your opinion based on no fact. The policy difference between Labour and the Tories, we could go at this one forever and a day because I simply can't be bothered to spend time looking for through all of their combined bullshit. As for unemployemnt and unskilled jobs, we simply can't have the amount of unemployed people we have that are refusing to work, in any capacity, the clamping down on job seekers allowance is a start but needs to be a hell of a lot more firm and again, neither main party has the balls to risk losing a big chunk of potentially 7.9 million votes so neither will do anything of note to rectify it. I'm not for one second advocating a full lock down on immigration, that simply isn't viable but we need to make sure that the people that do come here contribute. Australia has this spot on, I have 12 years experience in a very specialised industry but they'd reject my application if I were to apply because they have enough skilled people locally to do the job I do here, now if I were a hairdresser I'd be in, welcomed with open arms. Again, neither party has the balls to take such measures here and this forces people to vote for the extemists. ...The spread of secondary and latterly of tertiary education has created a large population of people, often with well developed literary and scholarly tastes, who have been educated far beyond their capacity to undertake analytical thought. |
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