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One thing strikes me as odd....
Watch what you read as fact about a game...posted here at MMORPG.com.
Seems to me that testers might be trying to make their voice heard without violating the NDA. Just seems funny to me that you see post appear right before a launch that would sway people from buying a game. Happens a lot here....but make me wonder about the posters.... "This may hurt a little, but it's something you'll get used to. Relax....." |
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Hashbrick
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Joined: 4/12/05
Only jackasses label their PC specs in their sig. |
If WoW's a "souped-up BMW" then I don't want it. They are not charging anymore than a standard box and subscription to any other P2P MMO these days.
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Originally posted by Navydt
A number six is menu is 2 chalupas, 1 taco, plus a large 32 Oz softdrink. i prefer mine with steak and extra sour cream and guacamole. i mean, all in all with my extras were talking about a 10 dollar meal 3/4ths the cost of an ENTIRE month of MMO subscription. its not about expecting more for our money, or getting an under developed product. what is wrong with america today is we are prefectly happy buying a fast food meal that took 32 seconds to make by a guy whos not qualified to do more then a minimum wage job, but were not willing to pay that same amount of money to a guy who went to collage for a degree and spent possibly the last 3 years of their life making? i can honestly tell you, if i had a choice between investing my money in the game industry or investing my money in americans stuffing their fat faces ( me included ) im pretty sure you know where i would put my money. The point is, your getting alot more for your money than you think, you just choose to look at it differently. thats fine and all, and thats why i fight for this country to defend that right, but you cant tell me that they are totally wrong. they do it because we allow them to do it and will continue to do so. stop being a cheat skate give the working american what they deserve. i would rather have my money going to taco-bell guy and indie american mmo programer then to some asian company who underpays/over works their employees at any rate.
Im pretty sure that some ppl buy 10 subscription per month of indie games cause they can get ENTIRE month of subscription... Get a clue what sub based Gaming is all about... its about getting subscriptions - thats all.. And now some indie company is going to try to take it one step furher... They are counting on some asholes to pay their wages until they actually have something worth playing... one day... in the distant future... You do know that if every person that payed money to their fitness club would actually show up to work out as to what they payed for.. the Club would be in deep shit. But you know what.... some ppl just pay and there is alot of ppl that are hoping you "forget" about it for alot of diffrent reasons.
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Originally posted by Frobner
Im pretty sure that some ppl buy 10 subscription per month of indie games cause they can get ENTIRE month of subscription... Get a clue what Gaming is all about... its about getting subscriptions - thats all.. And now some indie company is going to try to take it one step furher... They are counting on some asholes to pay their wages until they actually have something worth playing... one day... in the distant future... You do know that if every person that payed money to their fitness club would actually show up to work out as to what they payed for.. the Club would be in deep shit. But you know what.... some ppl just pay and there is alot of ppl that are hoping you "forget" about it for alot of diffrent reasons.
wow...that makes sense...to a bag of wet hair....
You can't even spell asshole right.... "This may hurt a little, but it's something you'll get used to. Relax....." |
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Originally posted by Gestankfaust
Im pretty sure that some ppl buy 10 subscription per month of indie games cause they can get ENTIRE month of subscription... Get a clue what Gaming is all about... its about getting subscriptions - thats all.. And now some indie company is going to try to take it one step furher... They are counting on some asholes to pay their wages until they actually have something worth playing... one day... in the distant future... You do know that if every person that payed money to their fitness club would actually show up to work out as to what they payed for.. the Club would be in deep shit. But you know what.... some ppl just pay and there is alot of ppl that are hoping you "forget" about it for alot of diffrent reasons.
wow...that makes sense...to a bag of wet hair....
You can't even spell asshole right....
Ye - thats when the world comes to an end... ahole =) |
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Originally posted by Frobner
wow...that makes sense...to a bag of wet hair....
You can't even spell asshole right....
Ye - thats when the world comes to an end... ahole =)
Ahole...is that like Ahoy?
You really need to grasp reality....srsly.... "This may hurt a little, but it's something you'll get used to. Relax....." |
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Originally posted by Gabby-air Seems to be currently $20 (for original game + Moria expansion), and the $10/month is only for a 3-month or longer subscription. But if you do get such a subscription now, you get the next expansion Mirkwood free when it releases next month. If you want to play a smaller fantasy MMORPG, with a nice community, rather than the roaring juggernaut that is WoW, I'd say LOTRO is about a million times better a choice than Alganon, at not much more than half the price.
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Originally posted by Banquetto Seems to be currently $20 (for original game + Moria expansion), and the $10/month is only for a 3-month or longer subscription. But if you do get such a subscription now, you get the next expansion Mirkwood free when it releases next month. If you want to play a smaller fantasy MMORPG, with a nice community, rather than the roaring juggernaut that is WoW, I'd say LOTRO is about a million times better a choice than Alganon, at not much more than half the price.
LOL. LotRO isn't a million times better than ball-in-a-cup.
As much as I think QOL is making a huge mistake with high prices for a largely unfinished game, I'd be far more likely to pay for Alganon than pay even $10/month for LotRO.
Alganon at least has the advantage of being new, and you're going to find an enthusiastic community all around the same level if you start now. Most long-established games have a large majority of folks at end-game and players segregated into existing social circles. LotRO is probably the worst in that regard that I've found. |
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Originally posted by brostyn
I am. I've been waiting since it started production. It will be fascinating to see what Dave Allen is capable of, when he isn't being back stabbed. As for those shocked, SHOCKED that the monthly fee is the standard, get over it. WoW had the same fee when it launched, and having been in since late beta, I can tell you it had its share of problems. If you can't afford less than $15 a month, for a game that you will play many hours each week, you have bigger problems than playing a game, that need to be addressed. |
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Originally posted by Wraithone
If you're comparing the state of WoW in late beta to the state of Alganon in late beta, either (a) you haven't seen the Alganon beta, or (b) you're just flat-out trolling. |
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talismen351
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Joined: 11/01/07
"Easy" only equals "better" for crack addicts and MMORPG developers. |
Originally posted by Gestankfaust
As a beta tester...and not breaking NDA...better off to invest your money in some obscure Kenny Rogers collectors album.
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Originally posted by Banquetto
If you're comparing the state of WoW in late beta to the state of Alganon in late beta, either (a) you haven't seen the Alganon beta, or (b) you're just flat-out trolling.
No, I'll leave the trolling to you... Your are doing a MUCH better job at it. I've seen both, and you either have an axe to grind, or you have a selective memory from WoW's beta and first year. |
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WSIMike
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Joined: 3/09/04
Playing: Lineage 2, Dissidia FF |
Originally posted by Frobner
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Originally posted by cukimunga Agreeing with cukimunga here and QFT. $15 a month is standard mmo pricing. There are a few that are $10, but 90% of all mmo's are $15 a month after paying $40-60 for the game itself. This is how the gaming/mmo industry works. Go troll elsewhere please. |
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Originally posted by Wraithone
I'll admit I have something of an axe to grind. The outrageous plagiarism in Alganon genuinely makes me angry. And pimping expensive pre-orders with incentives to pay even more upfront for long subscriptions, for what is going to launch in a state that is simply not fit for sale - well, in my humble opinion, it almost feels like fraud. But I remember WoW's stress test beta and first year very well, and I repeat: If you're comparing the state of WoW in late beta to the state of Alganon in late beta, either (a) you haven't seen the Alganon beta, or (b) you're just flat-out trolling. |
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Originally posted by Mode6Nine
Indeed that has been the case in the past, but you may have noticed that now, subscription MMOs have to deal with competition from free-2-play games. Yes, these free-2-play games are generally inferior to the big subscription MMOs. But the thing is, it's not 2004 any more, and Alganon has to be better than games like Runes of Magic to persuade subscribers to stick around at $15/month. If it launches in 9 days time, it won't be. Fact. Not trolling. |
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Originally posted by Banquetto
I'll admit I have something of an axe to grind. The outrageous plagiarism in Alganon genuinely makes me angry. And pimping expensive pre-orders with incentives to pay even more upfront for long subscriptions, for what is going to launch in a state that is simply not fit for sale - well, in my humble opinion, it almost feels like fraud. But I remember WoW's stress test beta and first year very well, and I repeat: If you're comparing the state of WoW in late beta to the state of Alganon in late beta, either (a) you haven't seen the Alganon beta, or (b) you're just flat-out trolling.
Once more, shall we? I've seen both. I also remember WoW's beta. Not only that I remember the difference between the two companies... Its been estimated that Blizzard sank more than 20 million dollars into WoW's initial development(a conservative estimate from what I can see). Blizzard at WoW's launch was already a damn good sized game company(all of the warcrafts, starcraft, and diablos). Compare that to Dave Allen's company. Given the diferences Alganon looks remarkable for the time/talent and imagination involved. Lets see what happens in 9 months to a year, shall we? If my faith in Dave Allen is misplaced, it should be obvious by then. I grow tired of every other game being slammed as a "wow clone" or a "rip off of wow" or "outrageous plagiarism". Yes it has an art style like wow, perhaps for the same reason that wow uses that art style? That being that it not only fits the fantasy theme, but will run on many more PC's than a EQ2 style game would at launch. Your final doesn't even merit another response, so I'll close it here. |
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Uh no. Lotro costs $10 to purchase (that includes the original game AND Moria expansion) and if you go on a 3 month sub for $30 you get the expansion coming out in December for free. So no..it's nothing like Lotro. But keep spinning away. |
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subscription fees keep the game up and running and the player's data stored.
So just because a game is smaller then WoW doesn't mean the game doesn't still need the money to operate. I don't know why so many people fail to graps this concept. If anything the more successful of a game you are the less you could be charging, not really the other way around.
To top it all off, if you are worried about $15 a month, well then you have much bigger concerns then the subscription fee. It will cost you that much to go to a movie, by yourself, and only get a drink ONCE in the entire month. But yes let's worry about paying that for a month of entertainment. Feel free to do the math on going out to a club or a bar or any other form of entertainment one time in an entire month. |
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Originally posted by Vagrant_Zero
At launch LOTRO did cost $49.99. Go troll somewhere else. -- |
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Originally posted by Gabby-air
So, normal pricing, not more expensive than games like lotro, war, aoc, wow, eq2. That was to be expected. Lotro=costs 10 bucks to buy and im pretty sure its 10/month too War has same price as alganon aoc box is half price of alganon wow's battlechest is like 30 bucks and it has 2 big guides in there too EQ2 with 16 expansions if im not mistaken is 30 bucks? So no there not the same price Every game you mentioned cost $50 at launch, every one of them. Any and All MMOs cost $50 buck at launch and they all charge $15 a month, I still cant figure out what the point of this thread is, you are complaining that an MMO is launching with the exact same pricing that every MMO launches with.... Some games have dropped their box price since launch, but they launched at $50. Some of them have even dropped their monthly fee, but they all charged $15 a month at launch. Atleast everyone of them that has launched since 2004 that is. Yeah this was worth a thread. www.90and9.net |
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I was just answering the person's question if the game's more expensive than the other's he listed and it is, dosent matter if they were same price before im giving him today's price. Btw i think this game would be better off going f2p as going from forums it seems like not alot of people are buying it. |
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I'm just gonna say now that Alganon doesn't look like it's worth what they're asking for. I was surprised that the game is actually a P2P, to be honest. I've seen F2P games designed better.
Groovy. |
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Originally posted by theratmonkey I agree, they say that they will improve on it based upon the player base, however this is not yet proven. i think this is a long term MMO to watch out for but at the moment is simply not a worthwhile investment. |
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Originally posted by Quicksand Just keep on living in the past and keep on ignoring the posts about the free-2-play MMORPGs which are hitting the western market these days, most or all of which are of vastly higher quality than Alganon and it's "standard" $50 + $15/month price tag... |
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